? [12:37] ricks99: does not do it [12:37] sorry was to slow to type [12:38] clearfix is less markup and 'usually' works. ;-) [12:38] I go english page, click update from it (french) click complete, then go french page and click update from it, and then click complete [12:38] so do we put clearfix in evry styles? [12:38] the module's contents may be cached. clear the tiki cache [12:40] I find clearfix very useful. [12:40] me too I prefer conceptually that the empty div - but I am not pro [12:40] you guys decide what is the best - and we align all the styles on the decidion [12:41] *** Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki [12:41] decision [12:41] * sylvieg got the bad idea to take away the transition styles and got surprise in find.tpl for instance [12:43] ricks99: cleared cache but no... [12:43] the uptodateness is 100% though [12:43] chibaguy: does clearfix work in ie6 ? [12:44] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:44] says uptodate=100%, but still one is 'better' than the other? [12:45] yes [12:45] I have RC2 though [12:46] ricks99: no it is worst than that for each page it says the other is better [12:46] luciash: clearfix is the aslett clearing method - seems to be famous... [12:46] just use the translate link and save [12:46] ricks99: http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage [12:46] luciash, yes, I believe so. Also, * html .clearfix {height: 1%} must be used. [12:46] @franck: y. i've had issues with the translation stuff too. u can add you comments here: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=251&topics_offset=5&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=2 [12:46] there might have been a save without any changes, making it confusing [12:47] What do you mean a save without any changes? [12:47] let's say you edit a page and change the description [12:48] the translation change tracking recognizes the save and records it [12:48] @lphuderdeau: but frank, did a fresh edit and selected COMPLETE TRANSLATION -- shouldn't that have foreced everything to become 'in sync'? [12:48] however, the change size thing notices no changes [12:48] aslett ? what a shame i never heard about him/her [12:48] so you see 100% and still out of date... little weird I must admit [12:49] the after modifior is not a new css property? [12:49] the weird stuff, it tells me from the englsih page that the french page is better AND needs update [12:49] @lphuderdeau: actually, i see the same thing here: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php how can the page be 100% up-to-date, but there be other languages listed as "better"? [12:49] but i thought it uses after: pseudoclass rendering method and i wonder it is supported in ie6 actually [12:49] doesn't 100% imply that it is "complete" (i.e., nothting can be "better")? [12:50] in theory yes, but both are calculated based on different properties [12:50] luciash: http://positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html [12:51] so shouldn't it be something less than 100%? or if 100%, the other langs should be shown as equilvalent? [12:51] you want a login on the site to see? [12:52] well, that's something that could be fixed, but really minor to me [12:52] will probably work on those details at TikiFestPorto [12:52] :) [12:52] are you coming? I could use your help ;) [12:52] lphuberdeau: no the stuff that confuses me, is that the french page is shown as better translated and also needs to be updated [12:53] and if I go to the french page, same story with the english page [12:53] but that's absolutly true [12:53] editing both and selecting COMPLETE TRANSLATION *should* have cleared that up. maybe a bug? [12:53] we just can't figure out a better wording [12:53] @lphuderdeau: i'd love to.. but cant :( [12:54] personally, i removed the % on my site -- i also found it unreliable and confusing. [12:54] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [12:55] sylvieg, thanks ! LOL about "and let IE wrongly clearing it by itself" :-p [12:56] i logged an issue earlier. there should be a fourth state "out-of-sync" -- too confusing to have a page shown as *both* better and worse. [12:56] ricks99: agreed, but cannot get the sync... [12:58] do u have a 'master language' set? [13:00] ricks99: what do you mean? [13:01] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [13:02] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [13:03] back : ) [13:04] sylvieg, chibaguy: seems it does not work on my ie on ipaq though ;) which is from where i write now via putty/irssi :) [13:05] wb ricks :) [13:06] well, luciash, is supporting ie on ipaq a high priority? ;-) [13:06] ricks99: what do you mean by a master language set? [13:07] i *think* if u select a master lang, tiki will use that to determine you base (better/worse). lphuberdeau? [13:08] you must be talking about the pivot language thing... only used to filter the display in the translation module [13:08] chibaguy: sure it is not, that is why i smile :) [13:09] I'm looking at the tiki-translated table [13:09] which one? [13:09] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [13:10] tiki-translated_objects [13:10] :-) [13:10] that one is not really useful in the current case [13:10] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [13:10] lphuberdeau: yes I just noticed, the tiki_untranslated table is empty [13:10] tiki_pages_translation_bits is where things happen [13:10] I didn't create that one, no idea what it's about [13:11] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [13:11] *rick hates his ISP :( [13:12] ok source_transtalion_bit is NULL and original_translation_bit is null for all records [13:12] and no flags either [13:13] franck, the null part is not good [13:14] when you do the translations, you use the icons in the translation module right? [13:14] lphuberdeau: I had a feeling [13:14] lphuberdeau: right [13:14] but because my pages are translated already I don't change the content [13:16] when I click complete translation [13:16] is this a bug because I have a translation set already? [13:16] when I did the upgrade? [13:17] @franck: u may need to make some sort of actual minor edit (e.g., add a blank line at the end of the page). [13:17] what should I have in the source_bit and original_bit field? [13:17] i had the same situation, applying the translation stuff to a site that already had translations [13:20] *** NefariousC has quit IRC () [13:20] it does not change any bit field in any record [13:21] propagation is broken... [13:21] I have several record with same pageid but many different versions [13:21] someone somewhere broke it [13:21] I use RC2 code [13:22] I just tested on branche 2.0 [13:22] and? [13:22] broken [13:22] and I'm quite pissed about it [13:22] what the svn history is telling you? [13:23] actually, even the UI is broken [13:23] * franck ready to point finger [13:24] lphuberdeau: I think you are for a fix... [13:25] can you identify the issue and tell me how to manualy fix? which files from svn I should replace [13:27] the code is just broken [13:27] the stuff never even gets called [13:29] you found what happened? [13:30] or how to fix? [13:30] that's sometimes the trouble of tw, you think your code is neat and then someone comes and break it and you don't realise [13:36] lphuberdeau: another related bug, open a page in English, you click on translate, create new page called Projekt AMS, and then it shows Update 'Projekt AMS' based on '', it does not know on what it is based from [13:38] actually, I'm about to throw up [13:38] I know the feeling... [13:39] ok, UI fixed... [13:41] let me know which files you commit so I go and grab them and update my site and let you know if it works ;) [13:44] Sending templates/pagehistory.tpl [13:44] Sending templates/tiki-editpage.tpl [13:44] Sending tiki-editpage.php [13:45] nyloth, around? [13:45] ok cool I just take these 3 files from svn and I'm cool? [13:45] yeah [13:48] *** tomb has joined #tikiwiki [13:50] should do RC3 really soon [13:51] lphuberdeau: I think so as soon as the XSS is fixed [13:51] lphuberdeau: ok let me see if better now [13:53] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [13:53] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:56] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [13:57] lphuberdeau: ok the translations are now sync etc... [13:57] but still a bug [13:57] *** harold has joined #tikiwiki [13:59] may be, I take a page in english, drop down to translate, select polish, new page, and I got to the edit page, content is pre filled with english version, but on top it is written translation based on '' and the '' contains nothing [13:59] lphuberdeau: what do you think, does not seem a big issue? [14:00] really minor to me [14:01] lphuberdeau: ok [14:02] btw: did you put the wiki-translation site in maintenance? [14:02] yes, updating it with trim [14:03] ok, I get alerted when these things happen ;) [14:04] * marclaporte updates TRIM [14:04] franck: you still get mails @sopac? [14:04] marclaporte: yes [14:10] *** PGamache has joined #tikiwiki [14:11] you have mail [14:11] hi PGamache! [14:11] PGamache: : thanks for the tip! [14:12] Yo! [14:12] You didn't know about it? [14:17] I didn't [14:17] and now for something completely different: http://www.cuil.com/ [14:17] PGamache: : I haven't read your book yet [14:18] http://www.cuil.com/search?q=tikiwiki&sl=long [14:19] Pffff! [14:20] dont like cuil, but *love* searchcloud.net [14:20] needs a better ui, but i love the concept [14:24] ricks99: is that the wikipedia one? [14:25] marclaporte: still no mail from you [14:25] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:31] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [14:33] wiki-translation.com critical has dissappeared [14:35] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:37] huh? [14:37] site seems to work [14:38] sorry [14:38] site is back to normal [14:42] I was updating it [15:04] *** tomb has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [15:08] *** chibaguy has left [15:41] *** igorw has joined #tikiwiki [15:47] Is there support for daylight savings in 2.0, and if not, is there anybody working on it? [15:51] polom [15:52] I'm trying to figure out wiki page translations in 2.0 [15:52] I create an english page [15:53] I use the drop-down "translate" [15:53] I create the associated french page [15:54] I translate half the page, then I hit "partial translation" [15:54] how do I get back to translating the rest and clic on "translation complete" ? I can only get to the normal page edit. [15:55] *** nyloth has joined #tikiwiki [15:55] Hi all :) [15:56] hi! [15:58] *** djst has joined #tikiwiki [16:00] * Jyhem needs coffee [16:07] jyhem, you need to activate the translation module [16:15] lphuberdeau: any good idea about sanitization of 'style' keyword ? [16:15] I didn't follow the discussion so much, but I have the feeling the troublesome keywords would be easier to filter [16:15] like behavior or such [16:18] I'm not really a security person [16:19] lphuberdeau: I thought about this, but I'm not convinced. It is easier to use many sorts of comments, special chars, etc. inside the style compared to the keyword 'style' itself (e.g. using /* and */). And It's probably harder to maintain the list of those things (behavior, url, ...) that could not follow standards in some browsers... mhhh [16:19] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [16:20] browsers should just provide a switch we could place on elements [16:20] like

[16:20] and disable all the script exectution they add all around [16:21] until they realize all their "features" actually cause security issues all around, we have to filter stuff [16:21] lphuberdeau: ok, let me know when you have convinced MS ;p [16:21] lphuberdeau: but agree on the principle [16:22] *** djst has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:23] lphuberdeau: I think I'll try to detect two different use of 'style' (the first as a tag, the other as style[SOME_POSSIBLE_CHARS]=), to affect less 'style' legitimate words [16:25] feels like the only way to filter things properly is to use a real parser [16:25] lphuberdeau: yes, this is my point of view for 3.0 :) [16:25] *** Wilkins_ has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:26] lphuberdeau: but too late for 2.0 [16:26] sure is [16:27] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [16:30] *** ElDios has quit IRC (".") [16:31] *** RK has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:31] *** RK has joined #tikiwiki [16:33] lphuberdeau: another thought : the 'style' problem that is displayed as 'style' is really annoying in content that does not allow HTML in fine. Those places are mainly parsed as wiki. I can handle those '' in wiki parsing in order to avoid the conversion into '<x>', so they will not be displayed, as in HTML mode (and will be less annoying). What do you think ? [16:35] well is bad as it breaks HTML validation [16:38] but yes, adding an exception in the parser could be an option [16:38] lphuberdeau: right, but it is what is used in the original function I proposed. The idea is clearely to have something that won't be displayed but breaks XSS code. Maybe should we replace it by a or something that does the same and HTML valid. Btw, it only affects content that may contain some keywords... not a so huge problem I think. [16:39] lphuberdeau: ok, I'll try to add this exception. [16:41] Anyone on who deals with themes? [16:41] or has been working on them? [16:44] kerrnel: chibaguy and luci, mainly ;) [16:45] ok, will hit them up when they're around, thanks nyloth! [16:45] hey, don't hurt the guys, we still need them badly [16:45] love taps [16:45] lol [16:47] :) [16:50] Doc does not state if WYSIWYG emits HTML or WikiSyntax: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wysiwyg&structure=Documentation [16:52] SEWilco2: HTML, but there is features to allow some wiki syntax inside [16:53] Can TikiWiki site search also search in HTML pages? I don't want to lose documents in the pile. [16:54] you mean HTML wiki pages (from wysiwyg) or HTML static pages ? [16:59] *** ohertel has joined #tikiwiki [16:59] Hello. :) [17:00] nyloth: I'd like to know both, to help decide on acceptable formats. [17:01] I think I've seen mention that static HTML pages are not searched. [17:02] *** martinalex has joined #tikiwiki [17:03] Hi I had some questions about css formatting [17:04] SEWilco2: yes, but HTML wiki pages are indexed for search. [17:04] Hi ohertel :) [17:05] note to the world, I do not respond to PM (lost my password many years ago, 2 days after getting it changed for the same reason) [17:05] hm, how do I force a folder from SVN repository to disc again? I accidently deleted .svn in the cache folder.. ,) [17:05] nyloth: Thanks. I'll probably turn on my WYSIWYG then. [17:06] SEWilco2: Be warned it's an experimental feature in 2.0 [17:06] * SEWilco2 writes down the note to the world on the wall, for later broadcast when he becomes famous. [17:06] nyloth: Even worse, I'm using 1.9.11 where it's not labeled whether experimental. [17:07] ohertel: rm -rf ./temp/cache ; svn revert temp/cache [17:07] or svn update temp/cache [17:07] ah, revert it was. .P thanks. [17:07] SEWilco2: Ouch, 1.9.11 ? Are you working in a museum ? ;p [17:08] nyloth: Working with customers concerned about security and stability. Little documentation of 2.0 stability. [17:09] Probably working in a bank. ^^ [17:09] SEWilco2: 2.0 should be more secure and quite stable [17:10] Yeah, I noticed the category group permission in 2.0 which I need. [17:10] I have one internal wiki. I'll try 2.0 on that. [17:10] :) [17:11] Let's see... lunch, convert to 2.0, wiki training meeting in 3.5 hours... yeah, this will be either good or interesting. [17:11] tw.o is based on a svn checkout now, so updates should be easier. :) [17:11] lunch, backups, convert to 2.0, ... [17:12] ohertel: ok :) [17:12] ohertel: as dev.tw.o ;p [17:13] nyloth: Nope, I just set up the wiki which I'll convert to 2.0. No data. Will actually be testing if conversion scripts fail with no data. [17:25] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [17:29] Hi all. I'd like to include some of the new user's user-tracker info in tiki-edit_templates.php?template=mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl (That's the email that gets sent to the admin to approve the new user that just tried to register. The admin would like to know a little about the user before approving them.) Can someone please teach me to fish in that pond? Thanks. [17:31] * marclaporte would like to taste Petjal2's fish as well [17:33] :) [17:37] Looking in other .tpls, in ./templates/tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl I see [17:37] tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId={$trackerId}&itemId={$items[user [17:37] maybe that's a start... [17:37] *** ohertel has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:39] yesterday sylvieg gave me this: [17:39] $mok = wikiplugin_trackeritemfield('y', array('fieldId'=>1, 'test'=>1, 'value'=>'y')); [17:39] to put in a .php file [17:39] *** Darkbee has joined #tikiwiki [17:39] Hello all [17:47] *** priti has joined #tikiwiki [17:47] OK, let's make it simpler. I can send a link to the admin like so: [17:47] http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?userId=28 [17:47] where 28 is the new user's id. So, I need to generalize it to something like: [17:47] http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?userId={$mail_userid} [17:47] but I'm just guessing that that is the right variable to use. Is there a list of available variables that I can look up? [17:49] Or I could use http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?username={$mail_user} but what is the variable name I should use immediately after the ? to make that work? [17:52] try view_user [17:52] security.tikiwiki.org http says connect timeout [17:54] Ooh, sylvieg is good, really good! How's that taste, marclaporte?! Yummy! [17:56] Ugh: You do not have permission to write the template [17:56] ...dropping down to the command line... [17:57] *** luci has joined #tikiwiki [17:59] *** luci has left [17:59] priti: thx, if you need to report something, you can send it to security AT tikiwiki.org [17:59] ok thnx [18:00] re [18:00] re [18:06] actually, the theme mail template file doesn't exist, so I made a backup and edited ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl and added the lines: [18:06] {tr}To view the user data, please follow the link:{/tr} [18:06] http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?view_user={$mail_user} [18:06] Thanks, sylvieg! [18:09] Not exactly what I wanted, but good enough for now. (The admin has to click the view-user-data link, review the info, go back to the email, and then finally click the approval link. If the user_info info was in the email, the admin would only have to click the approval link.) [18:09] *** priti has left [18:11] Is the above 2-line edit to ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl worth committing? (I don't know how and am not approved, otherwise I would, after approval.) [18:12] *** srishti has joined #tikiwiki [18:15] hi i have a tiki css question if anyone can help [18:18] Steps 2 and 3 of SVN instructions are for updates but are not phrased to indicate whether they are required after step 1 - checking out SVN stable. [18:18] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Using_stable_from_SVN_2_x_ [18:19] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [18:23] Hmm. I'll have to port my SEFURL patch to 2.0 also. Well, rewriting 90% of it. [18:24] Hi - css question - I created a default2_username css, but none of the styles are showing up when i reference them in my html [18:25] Do I need to make any other config changes for these styles to show up? [18:38] "Updating with SVN to HEAD is easy." OK, so it's easy. Is HEAD what I just checked out with "svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0" [18:38] (I don't know if HEAD is a synonym for "the latest available version of -- in this case Stable".) [18:44] hi - quick question - how do I disable users' ability to select their own css? [18:50] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [18:51] lphuberdeau: About your RFC for the core, that I've just read : Great. Only two small comments : 1) For a proposal, maybe diagrams should be optional (depending on the complexity, and done on request) ; 2) for coding standards (for the core), Zend ask to use 4 spaces instead of tabs. We agreed on tabs. [18:52] ok, that can be ammended ;) [18:52] I think I mentionned something about diagrams [18:54] ok, I let you make those small changes if you agree [18:55] one about tabs is in [18:55] Ideally the proposal should contain code samples demonstrating how the component will be used and diagrams or interfaces explaining how it will be implemented. [18:55] lphuberdeau: btw, lphuberdeau, thanx for your recent work, I like it :) [18:56] you mean inserting security issues in the installer? [18:56] LOL [18:56] no, not this one ;p [18:57] but everybody make mistakes sometimes [19:02] harold: hi, you should have 'Reg users can change theme:' in admin > login [19:03] harold: well, for 1.9.x I'm not sure, but at least in 2.0 [19:20] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [19:22] Uh... 2.0 stable says to use "tiki_1.8to1.9" to upgrade DB from 1.9. Is there an extra entry in that table, which made 2.0 put 1.9 out of alignment? [19:23] In ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl , I hard coded my path as http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?view_user={$mail_user} which worked perfectly for me, but of course I can't commit that, I have to generalize the url. Elsewhere in that file is {$mail_machine} but that apparently points down to http://domain.com//tiki-login_validate.php . Does anyone know what variable I should use in this case? [19:30] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [19:32] I found $mail_site but that doesn't give the tw root, just the domain.com part. [19:34] *** PGamache has quit IRC () [19:55] *** nkoth3 has quit IRC () [20:00] *** martinalex has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:01] * SEWilco2 discovers what the earlier chatter about style was about. [20:07] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [20:11] *** Darkbee has quit IRC ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") [20:13] Hmm. I came in partway of the style discussion. Don't know if it breaking "Custom Home" was mentioned. [20:15] That's odd. Tried WYSIWYG. Save emitted 404 "The requested URL /HomePage&saved_msg=y was not found on this server." but the page was saved. [20:15] Probably .htaccess needs tuning. [20:16] Oops, I forgot to htaccess.sh after conversion. [20:26] thanks nyloth - I knew that was it, but had a hard time finding the right screen [20:27] *** igorw has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [20:28] harold: you're welcome [20:28] SEWilco2: I don't see the relation between Custom Home and style [20:31] SEWilco2: Btw, you can test the last branches/2.0 if you want ;) [20:33] nyloth: better to keep related discussions for other place ;) [20:36] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [20:36] hi nelson :) [20:38] luciash: sure, but, btw what is commited may have to be tested :) [20:39] luciash: did you recently have a look at stuff ? ;p [20:51] nyloth: yep, and it sucks :) [20:53] well, i was wrong with common text, sorry [20:54] but still, having it in code listings... [21:01] I'm trying to tweak tiki-login_validate.php to get it to give me a variable like {$mail_twroot} that returns something like "http://domain.com/tw2/" so that I can use that in the email to goes to the admin to approve a new user that just registered. In this section: [21:01] $foo = parse_url($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"]); [21:01] $foo1 = str_replace('tiki-login_validate','tiki-login_scr',$foo['path']); [21:01] $machine =$tikilib->httpPrefix().$foo1; [21:01] $smarty->assign('mail_machine',$machine); [21:01] I should be able to parrot that like so: [21:01] $foo2 = str_replace('tiki-login_validate','',$foo['path']); [21:01] $twroot =$tikilib->httpPrefix().$foo2; [21:01] $smarty->assign('mail_twroot',$twroot); [21:01] but that just returns null for {$mail_twroot} in the email. [21:01] Any ideas? [21:09] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [21:13] {$mail_machine} returns http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-login_validate.php nicely, so I was just hoping to replace tiki-login_validate.php with null... [21:16] Looking at it for the 10^6 time, I now see that maybe I can simply use: [21:16] $twroot =$tikilib->httpPrefix(); //doh! [21:16] but that still gives me null in the email to the admin. [21:16] Maybe I need to declare or pass the new variable $mail_twroot somewhere somehow? [21:18] nyloth: hi [21:18] nyloth: priti was indicating that the site security.tw.o was down, it was down for about 30mn [21:19] srishti: otabz: you here? [21:19] yah [21:19] yea [21:20] yah, the security.tw.o site is up now. [21:23] security site went down around 5.30am and we informed marclaporte and it came back up at around 6am [21:24] marclaporte did not reply so we were told to emaile at security@tikiwiki.org [21:25] *** nkoth3_ has joined #tikiwiki [21:35] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [21:41] *** nkoth3 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [22:00] marclaporte: srishti: otabz: /join #tikiwiki-monitor [22:00] if any of you is managing the hosting of a tw.o site please meet in #tikiwiki-monitor [22:01] /join#tikiwiki-monitor [22:07] lphuberdeau: you here? [22:12] yes [22:23] nyloth: Sorry, not "Custom Home", but "Custom Site Header" is broken by style. Using