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Petjal2: hii all, i am using {TRACKERITEMFIELD} and that field for one user happens to have a CamelCase word, which tw is putting a ? after prompting to create a new wiki page. Many fields could have CamelCase. Is there a way to prevent tw putting in the "?"? I put )) (( around the {TRACKERITEMFIELD} tags, and that stopped the ?/create thing, but left the )) ((.
chibaguy: Petjal2, one option is turn off camelcase words site-wide. Then ((link)) is used for wiki syntax links.
Petjal2: Hmm, thanks, that's an interesting option...
<br> with maybe some huge repercussions...
<br> Nothing page-wide?
chibaguy: I don't think so.
Petjal2: I was thinking ~np~, but i think that would stop it from rendering the {TRACKERITEMFIELD} tags...
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Darkbee: Hey all, is there a way to see pages that have been linked to but do not yet exist? In other words pages that are awaiting creation.
Petjal2: I'll look in the {TRACKERITEMFIELD} docs, maybe their is a flag there...
chibaguy: Darkbee, there's a plugin called WANTEDPAGES or something like that. If you put it in a page, it'll list that kind of links.
Darkbee: thanks... plugins was my next port of call ;)
<br> next question! :S
<br> Do slides only have a CSS associated with them... no template?
chibaguy: I've never looked at how the slides pages are done.
<br> Not aware of any templates.
Darkbee: I've changed the CSS and it looks nice... but I'm restricted to the table layout :(
<br> means that you have to get a little creative with transparent backgrounds and the like to pretend it's not a table :)
-: Darkbee pretends that he's highly creative and skills in the arts of web design
Darkbee: I found slideshow folder in the styles folder, that seems to be all you need
chibaguy: That folder contains the slideshow theme options.
<br> Apparently they all use the same html.
Darkbee: so can I modify the HTML or is that not advisable?
<br> thanks for the wantedpages plugin tip..that was just the ticket!
chibaguy: Well, you'll have to find the html first.
<br> And see how it's applied to the wiki content.
Darkbee: hehe... I was afraid you would say that ;)
<br> It's not a big deal... I can do enough with the CSS to blend in with the rest of the site.
<br> thanks again
chibaguy: sure
-: Darkbee wonders if chibaguy has a space cowboy vibe going on
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Darkbee: good night/morning/afternoon all.
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chibaguy: Question mark in url in textarea of tracker breaks display of tracker (white page), Tiki 2.0svn.
franck: in the calendar, we need to display the TZ used
<br> Important to give feedback to the user
chibaguy: I'd like to use a tracker to list themes, but don't know the best way to have a link field. The url is like http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/abse.tar.gz?view=tar . The '?' here breaks the tracker display.
<br> Hmm, nocache parameter for wiki links seems to not work today.
<br> Heh, new anti-scripting thing has changed the line in wiki "Put in styles/ directory" to "Put in st<x>yles/ directory" :-)
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franck: I have a strange error n tw2.0: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function smarty_modifier_tiki_long_datetime() in /home/franck/Projects/tiki/tiki-2.0/tiki-calendars_rss.php on line 94
<br> sorry, found the error, fixing it
luciash: polom polom
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chibaguy: hi luciash
luciash: hey chibaguy, sent a reply to your mail ;)
chibaguy: ah, ok, luciash, thanks for clarifying.
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srisht3: themes.tikiwiki.org looks like down
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: themes is down
chibaguy: marclaporte is very busy, but I'm hoping to see themes.tw.o on an svn-capable server so we can demo Tiki 2.0 :-).
srisht3: <u>chibaguy</u>: themes have been down for the last 18 mins
<br> but the server is still up
chibaguy: "too many connections"
<br> db problem
srisht3: could be
chibaguy: Well, that's the error message I'm getting:"Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)"
srisht3: it seems its recovering because before it wasnt even replying
<br> all those sites hosted by marclaporte was playing up abt an hour ago
<br> the themes critical just cleared. themes.tikiwiki.org is up
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sylvieg: what is the class we are suppose to use to clear both?
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franck: Hi
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franck: need some help on traslation
<br> I have upgrade a site from 1.9 to 2.0 and there are pages that were translated
<br> I have an english page and a french page, but from each one, it tells me the other is better translated
<br> how to fix that?
ricks99: @franck: u want to 'rest' so that tiki thinks both are equal/identical?
chibaguy: sylvieg, class="clear" has property clear:both .
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: yes
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: how?
sylvieg: thx chibaguy but it is not in all the css ex: tiikineat
ricks99: @franck: edit the english page. do not click "save" instead at the bottom click "COMPLETE TRANSLATION"
<br> then do the same for the french page
sylvieg: and some have the clearfix
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: clearfix ?
sylvieg: the clearfix after
chibaguy: clearfix is to make a div contian its floated children
<br> It's like putting <br class="clear" at the end of the div, after the floated divs it contains.
luciash: but i wouldnt rely on it because not supported everywhere
sylvieg: so what is better ... <div clearfix> <div ...> </div> or <div> <div...></div><div class=clear></div>?
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: does not do it
sylvieg: sorry was to slow to type
chibaguy: clearfix is less markup and 'usually' works. ;-)
franck: I go english page, click update from it (french) click complete, then go french page and click update from it, and then click complete
sylvieg: so do we put clearfix in evry styles?
ricks99: the module's contents may be cached. clear the tiki cache
chibaguy: I find clearfix very useful.
sylvieg: me too I prefer conceptually that the empty div - but I am not pro
<br> you guys decide what is the best - and we align all the styles on the decidion
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sylvieg: decision
-: sylvieg got the bad idea to take away the transition styles and got surprise in find.tpl for instance
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: cleared cache but no...
<br> the uptodateness is 100% though
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: does clearfix work in ie6 ?
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ricks99: says uptodate=100%, but still one is 'better' than the other?
franck: yes
<br> I have RC2 though
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: no it is worst than that for each page it says the other is better
sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: clearfix is the aslett clearing method - seems to be famous...
lphuberdeau: just use the translate link and save
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
chibaguy: luciash, yes, I believe so. Also, * html .clearfix {height: 1%} must be used.
ricks99: @franck: y. i've had issues with the translation stuff too. u can add you comments here: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=251&topics_offset=5&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=2
lphuberdeau: there might have been a save without any changes, making it confusing
franck: What do you mean a save without any changes?
lphuberdeau: let's say you edit a page and change the description
<br> the translation change tracking recognizes the save and records it
ricks99: @lphuderdeau: but frank, did a fresh edit and selected COMPLETE TRANSLATION -- shouldn't that have foreced everything to become 'in sync'?
lphuberdeau: however, the change size thing notices no changes
luciash: aslett ? what a shame i never heard about him/her
lphuberdeau: so you see 100% and still out of date... little weird I must admit
sylvieg: the after modifior is not a new css property?
franck: the weird stuff, it tells me from the englsih page that the french page is better AND needs update
ricks99: @lphuderdeau: actually, i see the same thing here: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php how can the page be 100% up-to-date, but there be other languages listed as "better"?
luciash: but i thought it uses after: pseudoclass rendering method and i wonder it is supported in ie6 actually
ricks99: doesn't 100% imply that it is "complete" (i.e., nothting can be "better")?
lphuberdeau: in theory yes, but both are calculated based on different properties
sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: http://positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
ricks99: so shouldn't it be something less than 100%? or if 100%, the other langs should be shown as equilvalent?
franck: you want a login on the site to see?
lphuberdeau: well, that's something that could be fixed, but really minor to me
<br> will probably work on those details at TikiFestPorto
ricks99: :)
lphuberdeau: are you coming? I could use your help ;)
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: no the stuff that confuses me, is that the french page is shown as better translated and also needs to be updated
<br> and if I go to the french page, same story with the english page
lphuberdeau: but that's absolutly true
ricks99: editing both and selecting COMPLETE TRANSLATION *should* have cleared that up. maybe a bug?
lphuberdeau: we just can't figure out a better wording
ricks99: @lphuderdeau: i'd love to.. but cant :(
<br> personally, i removed the % on my site -- i also found it unreliable and confusing.
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luciash: sylvieg, thanks ! LOL about "and let IE wrongly clearing it by itself" :-p
ricks99: i logged an issue earlier. there should be a fourth state "out-of-sync" -- too confusing to have a page shown as *both* better and worse.
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: agreed, but cannot get the sync...
ricks99: do u have a 'master language' set?
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: what do you mean?
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ricks99: back : )
luciash: sylvieg, chibaguy: seems it does not work on my ie on ipaq though ;) which is from where i write now via putty/irssi :)
<br> wb ricks :)
chibaguy: well, luciash, is supporting ie on ipaq a high priority? ;-)
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: what do you mean by a master language set?
ricks99: i *think* if u select a master lang, tiki will use that to determine you base (better/worse). lphuberdeau?
lphuberdeau: you must be talking about the pivot language thing... only used to filter the display in the translation module
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: sure it is not, that is why i smile :)
franck: I'm looking at the tiki-translated table
lphuberdeau: which one?
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franck: tiki-translated_objects
chibaguy: <!--[if IE 6 on ipaq]><br class="clear" /><![endif]--> :-)
lphuberdeau: that one is not really useful in the current case
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franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes I just noticed, the tiki_untranslated table is empty
lphuberdeau: tiki_pages_translation_bits is where things happen
<br> I didn't create that one, no idea what it's about
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ricks99: *rick hates his ISP :(
franck: ok source_transtalion_bit is NULL and original_translation_bit is null for all records
<br> and no flags either
lphuberdeau: franck, the null part is not good
<br> when you do the translations, you use the icons in the translation module right?
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I had a feeling
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: right
<br> but because my pages are translated already I don't change the content
<br> when I click complete translation
<br> is this a bug because I have a translation set already?
<br> when I did the upgrade?
ricks99: @franck: u may need to make some sort of actual minor edit (e.g., add a blank line at the end of the page).
franck: what should I have in the source_bit and original_bit field?
ricks99: i had the same situation, applying the translation stuff to a site that already had translations
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franck: it does not change any bit field in any record
lphuberdeau: propagation is broken...
franck: I have several record with same pageid but many different versions
lphuberdeau: someone somewhere broke it
franck: I use RC2 code
lphuberdeau: I just tested on branche 2.0
franck: and?
lphuberdeau: broken
<br> and I'm quite pissed about it
franck: what the svn history is telling you?
lphuberdeau: actually, even the UI is broken
-: franck ready to point finger
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I think you are for a fix...
<br> can you identify the issue and tell me how to manualy fix? which files from svn I should replace
lphuberdeau: the code is just broken
<br> the stuff never even gets called
franck: you found what happened?
<br> or how to fix?
<br> that's sometimes the trouble of tw, you think your code is neat and then someone comes and break it and you don't realise
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: another related bug, open a page in English, you click on translate, create new page called Projekt AMS, and then it shows Update 'Projekt AMS' based on '', it does not know on what it is based from
lphuberdeau: actually, I'm about to throw up
franck: I know the feeling...
lphuberdeau: ok, UI fixed...
franck: let me know which files you commit so I go and grab them and update my site and let you know if it works ;)
lphuberdeau: Sending templates/pagehistory.tpl
<br> Sending templates/tiki-editpage.tpl
<br> Sending tiki-editpage.php
<br> nyloth, around?
franck: ok cool I just take these 3 files from svn and I'm cool?
lphuberdeau: yeah
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lphuberdeau: should do RC3 really soon
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I think so as soon as the XSS is fixed
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok let me see if better now
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franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok the translations are now sync etc...
<br> but still a bug
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franck: may be, I take a page in english, drop down to translate, select polish, new page, and I got to the edit page, content is pre filled with english version, but on top it is written translation based on '' and the '' contains nothing
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: what do you think, does not seem a big issue?
lphuberdeau: really minor to me
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok
<br> <u>btw</u>: did you put the wiki-translation site in maintenance?
lphuberdeau: yes, updating it with trim
franck: ok, I get alerted when these things happen ;)
-: marclaporte updates TRIM
marclaporte: <u>franck</u>: you still get mails @sopac?
franck: <u>marclaporte</u>: yes
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marclaporte: you have mail
<br> hi PGamache!
<br> <u>PGamache</u>: : thanks for the tip!
PGamache: Yo!
<br> You didn't know about it?
marclaporte: I didn't
franck: and now for something completely different: http://www.cuil.com/
marclaporte: <u>PGamache</u>: : I haven't read your book yet
franck: http://www.cuil.com/search?q=tikiwiki&sl=long
PGamache: Pffff!
ricks99: dont like cuil, but *love* searchcloud.net
<br> needs a better ui, but i love the concept
franck: <u>ricks99</u>: is that the wikipedia one?
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: still no mail from you
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otabz: wiki-translation.com critical has dissappeared
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lphuberdeau: huh?
<br> site seems to work
otabz: sorry
<br> site is back to normal
lphuberdeau: I was updating it
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kerrnel: Is there support for daylight savings in 2.0, and if not, is there anybody working on it?
Jyhem: polom
<br> I'm trying to figure out wiki page translations in 2.0
<br> I create an english page
<br> I use the drop-down "translate"
<br> I create the associated french page
<br> I translate half the page, then I hit "partial translation"
<br> how do I get back to translating the rest and clic on "translation complete" ? I can only get to the normal page edit.
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nyloth: Hi all :)
Jyhem: hi!
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lphuberdeau: jyhem, you need to activate the translation module
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: any good idea about sanitization of 'style' keyword ?
lphuberdeau: I didn't follow the discussion so much, but I have the feeling the troublesome keywords would be easier to filter
<br> like behavior or such
<br> I'm not really a security person
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I thought about this, but I'm not convinced. It is easier to use many sorts of comments, special chars, etc. inside the style compared to the keyword 'style' itself (e.g. using /* and */). And It's probably harder to maintain the list of those things (behavior, url, ...) that could not follow standards in some browsers... mhhh
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lphuberdeau: browsers should just provide a switch we could place on elements
<br> like <div content-source="user">
<br> and disable all the script exectution they add all around
<br> until they realize all their "features" actually cause security issues all around, we have to filter stuff
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, let me know when you have convinced MS ;p
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: but agree on the principle
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nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I think I'll try to detect two different use of 'style' (the first as a tag, the other as style[SOME_POSSIBLE_CHARS]=), to affect less 'style' legitimate words
lphuberdeau: feels like the only way to filter things properly is to use a real parser
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes, this is my point of view for 3.0 :)
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nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: but too late for 2.0
lphuberdeau: sure is
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nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: another thought : the 'style' problem that is displayed as 'st<x>yle' is really annoying in content that does not allow HTML in fine. Those places are mainly parsed as wiki. I can handle those '<x>' in wiki parsing in order to avoid the conversion into '&lt;x&gt;', so they will not be displayed, as in HTML mode (and will be less annoying). What do you think ?
lphuberdeau: well <x> is bad as it breaks HTML validation
<br> but yes, adding an exception in the parser could be an option
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: right, but it is what is used in the original function I proposed. The idea is clearely to have something that won't be displayed but breaks XSS code. Maybe should we replace it by a <span /> or something that does the same and HTML valid. Btw, it only affects content that may contain some keywords... not a so huge problem I think.
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, I'll try to add this exception.
kerrnel: Anyone on who deals with themes?
<br> or has been working on them?
nyloth: <u>kerrnel</u>: chibaguy and luci, mainly ;)
kerrnel: ok, will hit them up when they're around, thanks nyloth!
lphuberdeau: hey, don't hurt the guys, we still need them badly
kerrnel: love taps
<br> lol
nyloth: :)
SEWilco2: Doc does not state if WYSIWYG emits HTML or WikiSyntax: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wysiwyg&structure=Documentation
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: HTML, but there is features to allow some wiki syntax inside
SEWilco2: Can TikiWiki site search also search in HTML pages? I don't want to lose documents in the pile.
nyloth: you mean HTML wiki pages (from wysiwyg) or HTML static pages ?
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ohertel: Hello. :)
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: I'd like to know both, to help decide on acceptable formats.
<br> I think I've seen mention that static HTML pages are not searched.
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harold: Hi I had some questions about css formatting
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: yes, but HTML wiki pages are indexed for search.
<br> Hi ohertel :)
lphuberdeau: note to the world, I do not respond to PM (lost my password many years ago, 2 days after getting it changed for the same reason)
ohertel: hm, how do I force a folder from SVN repository to disc again? I accidently deleted .svn in the cache folder.. ,)
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Thanks. I'll probably turn on my WYSIWYG then.
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: Be warned it's an experimental feature in 2.0
-: SEWilco2 writes down the note to the world on the wall, for later broadcast when he becomes famous.
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Even worse, I'm using 1.9.11 where it's not labeled whether experimental.
nyloth: <u>ohertel</u>: rm -rf ./temp/cache ; svn revert temp/cache
<br> or svn update temp/cache
ohertel: ah, revert it was. .P thanks.
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: Ouch, 1.9.11 ? Are you working in a museum ? ;p
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Working with customers concerned about security and stability. Little documentation of 2.0 stability.
ohertel: Probably working in a bank. ^^
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: 2.0 should be more secure and quite stable
SEWilco2: Yeah, I noticed the category group permission in 2.0 which I need.
<br> I have one internal wiki. I'll try 2.0 on that.
nyloth: :)
SEWilco2: Let's see... lunch, convert to 2.0, wiki training meeting in 3.5 hours... yeah, this will be either good or interesting.
ohertel: tw.o is based on a svn checkout now, so updates should be easier. :)
nyloth: lunch, backups, convert to 2.0, ...
<br> <u>ohertel</u>: ok :)
<br> <u>ohertel</u>: as dev.tw.o ;p
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Nope, I just set up the wiki which I'll convert to 2.0. No data. Will actually be testing if conversion scripts fail with no data.
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Petjal2: Hi all. I'd like to include some of the new user's user-tracker info in tiki-edit_templates.php?template=mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl (That's the email that gets sent to the admin to approve the new user that just tried to register. The admin would like to know a little about the user before approving them.) Can someone please teach me to fish in that pond? Thanks.
-: marclaporte would like to taste Petjal2's fish as well
Petjal2: :)
<br> Looking in other .tpls, in ./templates/tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl I see
<br> tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId={$trackerId}&amp;itemId={$items[user
<br> maybe that's a start...
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Petjal2: yesterday sylvieg gave me this:
<br> $mok = wikiplugin_trackeritemfield('y', array('fieldId'=>1, 'test'=>1, 'value'=>'y'));
<br> to put in a .php file
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Darkbee: Hello all
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Petjal2: OK, let's make it simpler. I can send a link to the admin like so:
<br> http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?userId=28
<br> where 28 is the new user's id. So, I need to generalize it to something like:
<br> http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?userId={$mail_userid}
<br> but I'm just guessing that that is the right variable to use. Is there a list of available variables that I can look up?
<br> Or I could use http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?username={$mail_user} but what is the variable name I should use immediately after the ? to make that work?
sylvieg: try view_user
priti: security.tikiwiki.org http says connect timeout
Petjal2: Ooh, sylvieg is good, really good! How's that taste, marclaporte?! Yummy!
<br> <u>Ugh</u>: You do not have permission to write the template
<br> ...dropping down to the command line...
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nyloth: <u>priti</u>: thx, if you need to report something, you can send it to security AT tikiwiki.org
priti: ok thnx
luciash: re
nyloth: re
Petjal2: actually, the theme mail template file doesn't exist, so I made a backup and edited ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl and added the lines:
<br> {tr}To view the user data, please follow the link:{/tr}
<br> http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?view_user={$mail_user}
<br> Thanks, sylvieg!
<br> Not exactly what I wanted, but good enough for now. (The admin has to click the view-user-data link, review the info, go back to the email, and then finally click the approval link. If the user_info info was in the email, the admin would only have to click the approval link.)
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Petjal2: Is the above 2-line edit to ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl worth committing? (I don't know how and am not approved, otherwise I would, after approval.)
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harold: hi i have a tiki css question if anyone can help
SEWilco2: Steps 2 and 3 of SVN instructions are for updates but are not phrased to indicate whether they are required after step 1 - checking out SVN stable.
<br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Using_stable_from_SVN_2_x_
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SEWilco2: Hmm. I'll have to port my SEFURL patch to 2.0 also. Well, rewriting 90% of it.
harold: Hi - css question - I created a default2_username css, but none of the styles are showing up when i reference them in my html
<br> Do I need to make any other config changes for these styles to show up?
SEWilco2: "Updating with SVN to HEAD is easy." OK, so it's easy. Is HEAD what I just checked out with "svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0"
<br> (I don't know if HEAD is a synonym for "the latest available version of -- in this case Stable".)
harold: hi - quick question - how do I disable users' ability to select their own css?
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nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: About your RFC for the core, that I've just read : Great. Only two small comments : 1) For a proposal, maybe diagrams should be optional (depending on the complexity, and done on request) ; 2) for coding standards (for the core), Zend ask to use 4 spaces instead of tabs. We agreed on tabs.
lphuberdeau: ok, that can be ammended ;)
<br> I think I mentionned something about diagrams
nyloth: ok, I let you make those small changes if you agree
lphuberdeau: one about tabs is in
<br> Ideally the proposal should contain code samples demonstrating how the component will be used and diagrams or interfaces explaining how it will be implemented.
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: btw, lphuberdeau, thanx for your recent work, I like it :)
lphuberdeau: you mean inserting security issues in the installer?
nyloth: LOL
<br> no, not this one ;p
<br> but everybody make mistakes sometimes
<br> <u>harold</u>: hi, you should have 'Reg users can change theme:' in admin > login
<br> <u>harold</u>: well, for 1.9.x I'm not sure, but at least in 2.0
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SEWilco2: Uh... 2.0 stable says to use "tiki_1.8to1.9" to upgrade DB from 1.9. Is there an extra entry in that table, which made 2.0 put 1.9 out of alignment?
Petjal2: In ./templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl , I hard coded my path as http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-user_information.php?view_user={$mail_user} which worked perfectly for me, but of course I can't commit that, I have to generalize the url. Elsewhere in that file is {$mail_machine} but that apparently points down to http://domain.com/<tw-root>/tiki-login_validate.php . Does anyone know what variable I should use in this case?
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Petjal2: I found $mail_site but that doesn't give the tw root, just the domain.com part.
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-: SEWilco2 discovers what the earlier chatter about st<x>yle was about.
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SEWilco2: Hmm. I came in partway of the st<x>yle discussion. Don't know if it breaking "Custom Home" was mentioned.
<br> That's odd. Tried WYSIWYG. Save emitted 404 "The requested URL /HomePage&saved_msg=y was not found on this server." but the page was saved.
<br> Probably .htaccess needs tuning.
<br> Oops, I forgot to htaccess.sh after conversion.
harold: thanks nyloth - I knew that was it, but had a hard time finding the right screen
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nyloth: <u>harold</u>: you're welcome
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: I don't see the relation between Custom Home and st<x>yle
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: Btw, you can test the last branches/2.0 if you want ;)
luciash: <u>nyloth</u>: better to keep <x> related discussions for other place ;)
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luciash: hi nelson :)
nyloth: <u>luciash</u>: sure, but, btw what is commited may have to be tested :)
<br> <u>luciash</u>: did you recently have a look at <x> stuff ? ;p
luciash: <u>nyloth</u>: yep, and it sucks :)
<br> well, i was wrong with common text, sorry
<br> but still, having it in code listings...
Petjal2: I'm trying to tweak tiki-login_validate.php to get it to give me a variable like {$mail_twroot} that returns something like "http://domain.com/tw2/" so that I can use that in the email to goes to the admin to approve a new user that just registered. In this section:
<br> $foo = parse_url($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"]);
<br> $foo1 = str_replace('tiki-login_validate','tiki-login_scr',$foo['path']);
<br> $machine =$tikilib->httpPrefix().$foo1;
<br> $smarty->assign('mail_machine',$machine);
<br> I should be able to parrot that like so:
<br> $foo2 = str_replace('tiki-login_validate','',$foo['path']);
<br> $twroot =$tikilib->httpPrefix().$foo2;
<br> $smarty->assign('mail_twroot',$twroot);
<br> but that just returns null for {$mail_twroot} in the email.
<br> Any ideas?
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Petjal2: {$mail_machine} returns http://domain.com/tw2/tiki-login_validate.php nicely, so I was just hoping to replace tiki-login_validate.php with null...
<br> Looking at it for the 10^6 time, I now see that maybe I can simply use:
<br> $twroot =$tikilib->httpPrefix(); //doh!
<br> but that still gives me null in the email to the admin.
<br> Maybe I need to declare or pass the new variable $mail_twroot somewhere somehow?
franck: <u>nyloth</u>: hi
<br> <u>nyloth</u>: priti was indicating that the site security.tw.o was down, it was down for about 30mn
<br> <u>srishti</u>: otabz: you here?
srishti: yah
otabz: yea
srishti: yah, the security.tw.o site is up now.
<br> security site went down around 5.30am and we informed marclaporte and it came back up at around 6am
<br> marclaporte did not reply so we were told to emaile at security@tikiwiki.org
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franck: <u>marclaporte</u>: srishti: otabz: /join #tikiwiki-monitor
<br> if any of you is managing the hosting of a tw.o site please meet in #tikiwiki-monitor
srishti: /join#tikiwiki-monitor
franck: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: you here?
lphuberdeau: yes
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Sorry, not "Custom Home", but "Custom Site Header" is broken by st<x>yle. Using <style> is not possible in "Custom Site Header" in tiki-admin.php?page=look
<br> argh. I mean using <div style=> is not possible. Gets altered to <div st<x>yle=...>.
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nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: with the very last version also ?
SEWilco2: nyloth 2.0 stable. Haven't tried bleeding edge.
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nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: I was talking about the last branches/2.0 svn
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: Ok, forgot, it can't work, yes
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: Whatever. I arrived partway through the conversation, and I don't know the SVN terminology.
<br> I merely noticed that I couldn't use my old HTML incantation because of st<x>yle.
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: I think you should find infos on dev.tikiwiki.org . The page is SVNTips or something like that if I remember well
<br> You're right, yes
<br> I need to find a fix, but you probably should not use style in this field. If you have your own theme and css file, it will be better to put things in your .css file instead
SEWilco2: Looks like 2.0 stable is mostly working for me. The "Search" in menu seems to not be full-text (like "search-new" module). Enabled full text search module as a workaround.
<br> <u>nyloth</u>: I was only trying to use style for size and centering, and trying to do it in a way a client could do without needing file-level access.
<br> <u>nyloth</u>: I was able to use <h2><center> instead..although I think <center> is deprecated.
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lphuberdeau: well, maybe we could drop sanitization for tiki-admin.php
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: could you open a ticket on dev.tikiwiki.org for the bugs you find (like Search menu)
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: but not for <x>, since it's a work in progress
SEWilco2: The Search in the menu is supposed to do full text search?
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: No, but if I remember well there is two different scripts for full text or the other method... and the menu should give you the right one depending on which feature you activated... which is not done yet (apparently fulltext is not supported)
<br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: Maybe, yes. I was about developing a smarty modifier to use it in some places like this {$my_var|unsanitize} or {$my_var|trusted_html} ... but your idea is better if he problem is limited to admin panels only
SEWilco2: Yeah, I only saw one "Search" checkbox. Will report.
lphuberdeau: in most cases it will be
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: by the way, you should test the other method (not using mysql fulltext) and see if it's not better. As you wish.
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SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: It's not finding stuff, but this customer will be using it for document management and needs full text search.
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SEWilco2: Hmm. Normal search should find my search terms. Doc says "# Wiki Pages : page name, description, data " and these words are in Wiki "data".
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: in tiki, "full text" means "mysql full text" ... but the other search methods are also "full text" in the way the index all fields too... test both to see what fits best your needs
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SEWilco2: Yeah, I see the two search modes only differ in how they rank/present results. If one finds "orange" in text, the other should also.
nyloth: yes, and they don't use at all the same internal mechanisms
sylvieg: when another 2.0 release is planned?
lphuberdeau: I'm just waiting on nyloth to confirm the filtering thing ;)
sylvieg: I sent a maill to security - I did not have time to fix it now - will do tomorrow
lphuberdeau: <u>marclaporte</u>: what is the status on the changelog?
<br> sylvieg.. that is not really a security issue... it's a bug, but not a security
<br> now... how many people use non-plublic articles?
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: please get the last version of TikiWiki 2.0 from SVN to test if it is ok now for your site header code.
lphuberdeau: I wouldn't mind seeing a fix in 2.0, but wouldn't delay the RC for that
SEWilco2: Is the way to get the "last version" what is labeled as "future 3.0"?
<br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Using_Dev_branch_from_SVN_trunk_future_3_x_
lphuberdeau: last version from 2.0 ...
<br> trunk is 3.0, but all fixes are not there yet
nyloth: <u>sylvieg</u>: same as lph, it can be fixed later, not a blocker IMHO
marclaporte: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: : changelog hasn't changed much
lphuberdeau: we're getting ready to release... are you? :)
marclaporte: hehe
<br> this is it: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tikiwiki+2.0
lphuberdeau: sourceforge asks me for a changelog when I do the file release
marclaporte: just point to that page
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I thought you wanted to make an RC3 before releasing, no ? But as you wish
lphuberdeau: yes
<br> but basically, next week is very likely to be a release
nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, I prefer an RC3 to make sure sanitization is tested
<br> sure
lphuberdeau: just making sure everything is getting in place ;)
nyloth: ok for me (RC3 today, release in one week if no major critical problem :)
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: I tried 2.0 'svn update' but all it did was restore my _htaccess files. That doesn't look like there is a new 2.0 stable.
marclaporte: yay!
lphuberdeau: sewilico2, what does svn info give you?
nyloth: In fact I have a quite important fix to do for the filegals that make them unusable in certain cases, but I can do it between RC3 and stable.
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nyloth: (well ... by important I meant that it is needed, but not that it is huge ;)
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: http://sh.nu/p/24745
<br> Oh, those filegals! I don't know what I'd do if the gals didn't have a fresh cup of coffee and files!
nyloth: :)
lphuberdeau: ok, that seems up to date
SEWilco2: Bug 1696 mentions "even if wiki search index is requested to refresh ". Is there an index refresh option in some Admin page someplace, or is that a MySql admin task?
nyloth: yes, so, SEWilco2, you should not have your problem anymore for Custom header
kerrnel: Moo
nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: in admin > search , there is a refresh link
SEWilco2: Huh. You're right, no st<x>yle.
nyloth: :)
SEWilco2: Huh. I hadn't noticed the big Search icon before.
lphuberdeau: I fired up the pre-packaging
nyloth: ok
lphuberdeau: feels good not to have to handle secdb
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: "Found "ja<x>vascript" in 0 pages "
<br> Might that be of interest?
nyloth: <u>marclaporte</u>: about http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tikiwiki+2.0 ... I don't like the fact that screenshots are using different themes and are not in english for some of them... maybe should we replace them by text only ?
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: mmhhh... not that important/urgent IMO, but may have to think about this, yes.
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nyloth: <u>SEWilco2</u>: don't hesitate to send me a mail for those problems (nyloth AT tikiwiki.org)
marclaporte: bad screenshot could be better than no screenshot
SEWilco2: <u>nyloth</u>: I did a search for javascript from the Search menu option. http://wiki.example.com/tiki-searchindex.php?highlight=javascript&where=pages&search=Go
marclaporte: I have no strong opinion
<br> but we have very little people-power on this at the moment
nyloth: <u>marclaporte</u>: in our case, I think it's worse... but do what you feel is better
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: don't reduce yourself like this ;p
marclaporte: I am backlogged at the moment, can't lead anything
<br> so anyone is encouraged to lead :-)
nyloth: :)
<br> I'm too busy too
<br> security has stolen me a lot of hours...
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marclaporte: only thing I may do is a few fixes to admin panel
nyloth: <u>marclaporte</u>: security and major fixes only, right ? ;)
marclaporte: and changing defaults
<br> putting some stuff to experimental
nyloth: mmmmh...
<br> :)
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lphuberdeau: had to start over... versions were wrong :(
SEWilco2: Heh. Bug 1911 is on the bug tracker. "javascript" is the word which must not be spoken to bug tracker.
lphuberdeau: yeah, tiki does not like that you talk about potentially harmful stuff
kerrnel: Anyone who used the updated SLVN in 1.9x, I've committed SLV2 to the trunk. Works even better than it did in 1.9 for breaking out trackers...like it was supposed to.
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kerrnel: I managed to fix the div formatting, so it appears nice and clean, and everythign rolls up properly.
lphuberdeau: again
marclaporte: can we consider Swffix as experimental?
<br> can we consider HTML Purifier as experimental? (like WYSIWYG)
SEWilco2: Ick. Can't search resumes stored in TikiWiki for "javascript".
kerrnel: I know a lot of folks were looking forward to wysiwyg in 2.0
marclaporte: yes, that's why I want to lower expectations
kerrnel: Has it officially be sidelined for the release or still being worked on?
lphuberdeau: just not happy with the way it works... does not play nice with wiki syntax
<br> (I think)
kerrnel: I know I tried using it the other day when I first installed 2.0 and tried pulling up a wiki page in the editor and it came up as a stream of text with no formatting.
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SEWilco2: Aha. I'm staring at a Wiki page full of lines which begin "yle=...". So your mention of WYSIWYG is related to my ja<x>vascript problem.
<br> I don't have Swffx turned on, so I take it that HTML Purifier is what is doing <x>.