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chibaguyI'm finding Shadowbox in a fresh 2.0 install doesn't work with any *litecss themes. [05:07]
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chibaguyhmm, working ok now. [06:00]
My mistake, had settings wrong. [06:10]
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luciashchibaguy: hmmm, what was the problem ? [06:37]
chibaguyhi luciash, I'm not completely sure.
One problem is simple and simple-amette maybe don't have the latest mootools lilnk in their head sections.
For other themes like Darkroom, they have the mootools js links ok but maybe my config settings weren't totally right.
They seem ok now.
Also I added another new theme to that installation and it didn't work, but I found it needed the mootools js link update. 		[06:40]
luciashah, sure, that can be the culprit... i didn't notice mootools link change
thanks 		[06:44]
chibaguyhttp://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/2.0/templates/header.tpl?revision=13983&view=markup [06:44]
luciashi'll have a look what changed, thank you [06:45]
chibaguywell, http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/2.0/templates/header.tpl?r1=13854&r2=13983 shows the javascript link changes. [06:46]
luciashimho it is not ideal change... now with every mootools upgrade everyone has to update their header js links [06:49]
chibaguytrue [06:50]
luciashwould be wiser to keep mootools.js and import these two new files there if JS can do that
"import" as in CSS @import way i mean
if not the having mootools.tpl could help
s/the/then/ 		[06:50]
chibaguyThat would avoid update problems. [06:53]
luciashbtw, simple-amette reuses simple's tpl files [06:55]
chibaguyoh yeah, ok. [06:55]
ParagtimSorry to jump in - chibaguy When I first started using tw I needed to remove the Category display from the center column of the page. You told me to edit a page and remove some code. Being new I didn't document the changes that I made and now that I have upgraded to v2 the category listing has come back. Can you tell me the edit and the page again please [06:56]
chibaguyuh, can you describe the problem again, please? [06:56]
ParagtimOn a page - blow the content but above the comments there is a section that shows the categories. I need to take this off the page without changing the way categories are set up [06:58]
chibaguyCan you check the category admin page (tiki-admin.php?page=category) and be sure "Show Category Objects" is turned off? [07:00]
ParagtimThank you that got the brain cells moving. "Show category Objects" is on - Edit tiki-show_page - Comment out <div class "catblock"..... line - Now documented for future upgrades [07:04]
chibaguyDoes the config option not do the job, here? [07:06]
ParagtimNo - by turning it off on Admin : Categories it changes the display when the categories menu option is selected - According to the sloppy notes I made at the time. I will test it as you described in case it was a feature of 1.10 [07:08]
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ParagtimChibaguy - In v2 it works as you said it would - On or Off by the "Show Category Objects" switch. The tiki-show_page edit keeps it off regardless of the settings [07:16]
chibaguySo if you turn it off on category admin, then category objects don't display on the browse category page, and you want them to show there but not on wiki pages, etc.? [07:20]
ParagtimThat seems to have been a feature in my release of 1.10. Works perfectly in v2
And the edit in not required 		[07:21]
chibaguyOh, that's good. [07:23]
ParagtimThe edit - should it be used - overides the admins choice in Admin Home : Categories [07:24]
chibaguyedits do have that power ;-) [07:29]
ParagtimNow duly noted in my docs here. The v2 release is a considerable improvement and I'm glad I bit the bullit and did the upgrade. So are my "Suits" :) [07:32]
chibaguyHow did your eula agreement form work out? [07:32]
ParagtimNearly there - I bought some time. I have 2 problems to solve, but hopefully they are cosmetic. I need to be able to put the fields in the registration tracker into the registration page. So it displays 1 page and not 2. And give the registering user a chance to see the T's & C's. Would you like to see where we are at the moment? [07:35]
PS|botSVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14577 /mods/trunk/themes/ (12 files in 12 dirs): [FIX] Mootools js link and fullscreen button updates. [07:35]
chibaguysure [07:39]
Paragtimhttp://forum.vodafonetcs.co.uk/tiki-v2
register if you want a look around
Would like to here your comments 		[07:39]
chibaguyWell, I see I need to say Y or N to the Ts & Cs but don't know what they are yet. Yes, a popup window to show them would be good, so forms filled out so far aren't lost. [07:44]
ParagtimThats the first cosmetic problem !!!! [07:44]
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ricks99hi all :) [11:27]
marclaportericks99: : will I see you in Washington?
with Bill? 		[11:29]
ricks99no. :( wife is ill [11:29]
ParagtimWhich field type do I select to include the following code :- {BOX()}{INCLUDE(page=>TermsAndConditions)}{INCLUDE}{BOX}
in a tracker 		[11:40]
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sylviegtextarea fields are parsed [11:45]
ParagtimSylvieg - Thank you [11:46]
ricks99i think "static text" can parse, too [11:49]
ParagtimMultiple Choice - Love it - Thanks me working hard this afternoon :) - The registration page sage continues !!! [11:50]
So Close - Static Text does not display anything, But Text area shows the box but not the page called on the include inside it. - Any ideas? [11:55]
ricks99* rick didnt think you could include plugins within tracker fields... [11:56]
ParagtimMe being ever hopeful - Found the include plugin and the box plugin - Put them together on a page as a test and went with it from there. Trying to display the T'#s & C's on the registration page. [11:58]
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ricks99@paragtim: use static text option. in the Description field, simply include your ELUA (no include, just the actual text) [12:01]
ParagtimAm about to try it :) [12:02]
ricks99i created a test eula registration page. displays the full eula with a checkbox "I agree" that must be selected in order to register
works for me 		[12:02]
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ParagtimRick - That beer list is getting longer. That gave me the functionality. Just the cosmetics to go. Simple questions (I hope). The EULA Text that we have just done. Can it be put into a box with a slider down the right hand side - to control the page length - like a box with a fixed page height. 2. Can the tracker be added to the registration page (tiki-register.php), to make 1 page instead of a two step process over 2 pages.
I'm hoping the suits will take what you have just given me - But need to be able to answer the questions they might ask 		[12:14]
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ricks99for #1, not without customization
for #2. not that im aware of
:( 		[12:35]
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TorickHi there. I've got a problem with vertical/horizontal permissions. Anyone ready to help? [12:40]
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ParagtimThanks Rick - 1 is just a time problem then - If the suits give me the time then the problem can be solved :) 2 is more of a problem as they have already made a request for a 1 page registration process. But if it can't be done then at least i can tell them that
Torick - Need to know the problem before I can try to help :) 		[12:42]
TorickOK. I've got structures: 1 parent, 7 children each. Each children is categorized differently. I've got 6 groups with perms to categories. That's the vertical perms [12:44]
ricks99Torick: "structures" or "categories"?
two different beasts 		[12:45]
TorickHere's horizontal: I've got a group that must have different rights on the different categories of ONE defined structure (parent+children). When I set the perms w/ or w/o +substructures, there is a message about special perms apply
all the vertical perms automatically cancels
Let's clear a bit. Parent=Project1, children are prop1, prop2 etc. Group Managers are to view all the prop1s and edit all the prop2s; group Dev is to view all that belongs to Project1
Setting the permissions overrides global and group Managers is left w/o any rights
Here's the message I recieve: "These permissions do not apply. Special permissions apply." 		[12:46]
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ricks99For the parent 1 category, do you have the " asisgn permissions automatically" enabled? [12:53]
TorickIt's not categories that are with children, it's the structures are
Though the parent 1 structures are not categorized - may that be a problem? 		[12:55]
ricks99o..sorry. i didnt even know that permissions could be applied to wiki structures.
i dont even see a perms button the structures admin page. what tiki verison are you using?
my undertstanding is that sturctures rely on categories or page-specific settings for permissions 		[12:57]
Torickthe perms button of the structures in the standart view page. open a structure and if you have enough rights you'll see the perms button down there [12:59]
ricks99hm... im on 2.0. on tiki-edit_structure.php. i see no PERMS button when editin g astructure :( [13:00]
TorickobjectType=wiki+page [13:01]
ricks99you are applying the permssion to the specific page. afaik there is no way to apply permissions to a structure. anyone?
permissions are for categories or object. im not aware of any way to apply a permission to a wiki structure? 		[13:02]
ParagtimIf I got it straight page permission overide all others [13:03]
ricks99y. a page-specific permisison will override the page's category permission [13:03]
TorickThat's right, and that's the problem - local perms override the global ones. is there any way to fix it? [13:03]
ricks99that is by design [13:04]
TorickAnd there's no applying perms to the whole structure? [13:04]
ricks99a wiki structure? not that im aware of. [13:04]
ParagtimI had a similar problem and got around it by having no permissions in Registered and tailored the other groups [13:04]
ricks99are you *sure* you're talking about strurces? [13:05]
TorickParagtim, what have you done with the Regs group?
Wiped all the perms?
ricks: http://localhost/tiki/tiki-admin_structures.php - that's the structures page, right? 		[13:05]
ricks99y. [13:07]
Torickso that's what I'm talking about [13:08]
ParagtimAs everyone inheirits Registered I gave it No Perms at all. Then set up other groups that had the correct perms and included them as required. Ended up with 9 groups. Not on Structured pages tho. Looked at them and went "No thanks". My groups ran along the lines of increasing perms - each one slightly more powerful [13:08]
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ricks99k. i no PERMS button on admin_structures
what tiki version are you using? 		[13:08]
Toricktikiwiki-2.0 [13:08]
ricks99and you have PERMS button on tiki-admin_structures.php? [13:09]
TorickPerms I gave are on the pages, not in the structures [13:09]
ricks99y. thats my point. you can't apply a permission to a "structure" [13:09]
Torickpages are categorized, right? [13:09]
ricks99you can only apply permissions to pages or categories [13:09]
TorickI have groups with perms by categories and groups with local perms per page
the latter are overriding the first, that's what I'm trying to solve 		[13:10]
ParagtimYou will need to get away from local perms [13:11]
ricks99the page permisisons are designed to override the category permissions. add your global persmisions to the catgory, then overwrite on a page-by-page basis, as needed [13:11]
TorickNo way, my matrix table is both vertical and horizontal (( [13:11]
ricks99then you'll need to create "shared" groups for each combination [13:12]
Torickshared groups? what are they for? [13:12]
ricks99to account for every combintation in your matirx (i.e., group Z = A+B, group Y = A+C, etc.) [13:13]
Torickthere are quite a lot...
Paragtim: how do I "increase perms"? 		[13:14]
ParagtimGroup A can view cat 1 Group B can edit cat 1 Group C can delete cat 1 Group B can view cat 2 etc etc. Its a pain on a large matrix :) [13:17]
Torick30+ projects with 7 children each categorized and 10+ groups with different accesses... wtb rope & soap [13:20]
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ParagtimRick - I have just noticed that the static text on the EULA is showing twice. Any idea what stupid mistake I've made. [14:13]
ricks99hm... looks like a bug. the 'desciption' is displayed twice... [14:27]
ParagtimAny ideas of a fix? [14:27]
ricks99y. u can simply remove the duplicate... not sure if maybe someone put it in on purpose? but i can't imagine why [14:28]
Paragtimhow dat dun :) [14:29]
ricks99ull need to edit wikiplugin_tracker.php... 1 sec...
look @ ~ 829. remove that entire {if} statement
still dont quite understand why it shows twice... :( 		[14:30]
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ParagtimThat seems to have solved the problem
Do you want the edit file to go anywhere? 		[14:48]
ricks99what do u mean? [14:50]
ParagtimI've edited the file and saved it - Can it be saved into tw to help anyone else who may get the same problem? [14:51]
ricks99like i said. not sure if its a bug or feature? i dont see a bug listed on this. [14:52]
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ricks99needs more testing. dont know how it reacts with different field types, if not in a plugin, etc.
really was just a quick hack 		[14:53]
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ParagtimOk - If I have any problems with it I'll let you know. [14:54]
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sylviegdoes somebody know if it is possible to get in php the long url of a sefurl (something like call the apache rewrite rules from php) [15:10]
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gmcwelll, time to get a taste of tikiwiki developing.. at least.. a plugin (or should that be called mod) to start with [15:24]
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gmchmm, is there something like api documentation on tikiwiki? [15:46]
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sylvieggmc - there is the hello world page on dev.tw.org + on de.tikiwiki.org thre is xref... [16:02]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14580 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]plugin: to ba able to parse {CODE()}{TRACKER}...{CODE} [16:02]
gmcok, i see just going through tikilib.php there's some interesting info there..
i'm gonna build something where admins can create a 'project', where i define 'project' as a category together with a number of groups with certain permissions on that categorie..
anyway, that's for tomorrow, i'm off for the day! 		[16:03]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14582 /trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]tracker: rollback 14218: strip is needed there not to produce stuff like alt=' xxx '
SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14581 /trunk/templates/ (2 files): [FIX]tracker: rollback 14218: strip is needed there not to produce stuff like alt=' xxx ' 		[16:45]
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marclaporteIf some people have suggestions: http://fosdem.org/2009/brainstorm [16:58]
snarlydwarfoh this is a fun buggie.
i have some really really long user names (not my idea).
and the 'score' module has a limit of 40 characters on event names
ie, the field event_id is 40 chars in tiki_users_score
so I get collisions on things like: 'mchariker-fgallery_is_downloaded_osufoundation:185'
i guess i can make that column wider.. but it will hit others if they have dumb long names 		[17:02]
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nikhilodeon_hey all - quick question: is there an alternative to the $tikilib->remove_all_versions function that I can call? i am trying to overwrite the contents of a page, but want to preserve the history [19:00]
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sylviegupdate_page? [19:13]
nikhilodeon_sylvieg - hi, glad you're here :) - actually, this is on the batch_load_pages page you had developed - i want to overwrite the batch-loaded pages, but still keep this history
currently i am using "$tikilib->remove_all_versions($data['name'],'');" but i want to just update the pages 		[19:14]
sylviegthe last version - I do not know - but if you want to add another version update_page [19:18]
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nikhilodeon_sylvieg - i see; so what would the syntax be then? [19:35]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14586 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Plugin alias creation/edition interface [20:06]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14587 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [MOD]tracker: option to parse a description (a little redondant with static text but sometimes the parsed info really needs to be attached [20:10]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14591 /branches/experimental/upgrade/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Making proper patch [21:11]
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sylvieghow do I svn co ther mods on svn?
I was still working on cvs... 		[22:47]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by rischconsulting :: r 14592 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Allow for long page selector field values [23:37]
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