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PS|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #2001 - ranking shows twice in top users module - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2001 [01:39]
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chibaguyI broke theme-changing in my 2.0 test site. I was testing Edit CSS and confirmed that it creates 0-byte files...
...so I deleted the file with ftp. Then Tikineat became the default file and I could not change my theme choice to anything else....
Every page refresh showed Tikineat as my selected theme again. So I renamed tikineat.css to see what would happen. Now there is no stylesheet in effect....
Tiki won't let me use any other stylesheet/theme.
This sucks.
I cleared the caches and tried changing my personal theme choice and the site default... Apparently it's tikineat or nothing.
Earth to Porto.... 		[01:44]
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chibaguyAbout the broken theme-changing, I renamed tikineat.css back to its real name, and made a copy of subsilver.css, named it subsilver-admin.css, and FTPed it to the server.
Now I can use subsilver-admin.css . . . only. The theme choice can't be changed, with either personal pref, module, or site pref.
Am I particularly skilled, or is this a potential problem for any user of Tiki 2.0? 		[02:16]
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chibaguyWell, some of the theme stickiness anyway seems to be browser-related. All of the above happened while using Opera. When I log in with FF3, themes are working normally.
Dang, even with caching turned off in Opera, and logged in as admin, I get the subsilver-admin.css and nothing else, but in FF3 logged in as admin, I can change themes freely.
Deleted the session cookie in Opera and now can change themes. Ok, crisis over ;-) 		[02:28]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14611 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: oops
SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14610 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: better managment of list_mode ->new a param to TRACKERLIST
SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14609 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX]smileys should appear in wiki editor, even if wysiwyg feature is enabled. 		[02:37]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14611 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: oops
SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14610 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: better managment of list_mode ->new a param to TRACKERLIST
SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14609 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX]smileys should appear in wiki editor, even if wysiwyg feature is enabled. 		[04:36]
chibaguyHmm. BOX plugin produces these tags at the end: <p></div></div></p>
May be only with one wiki paragraph setting; I didn't check.
Causes validation errors.
The /div tags are the end of the box; I guess the p tags come from an empty new line just inside the box. But obviously the /p should be inside the /div tags.
This was with "Use Wiki paragraph formatting" "But still create line breaks within paragraphs" both activated. 		[04:46]
Just checked and also with those not activated, the same problem occurs. [04:59]
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chibaguyCorrection: with those not activated (so no paragraphs created in wiki text) no problem with tags out of order. (I had clicked on wrong submit button on wiki admin page.)
Dynamic variable causes xhtml 1.0 transitional validation error.
phew, my site now passes. 		[05:03]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14612 /mods/trunk/themes/ohia/styles/ohia.css: [FIX] validation errors. [06:11]
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luciash_mornin'
chibaguy: afternoon :)
chibaguy: did you also test on the fresh new install to change nocached links to cached and back if it happens then too ? 		[06:39]
chibaguyluciash_, yes, I changed them back and forth and there was no problem, on the new install. [06:42]
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luciash_chibaguy: ok, good to know, thx
luciash_ wonders how it handles the case when you use the same link on one page twice but forget to give one the nocache parameter... 		[06:45]
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chibaguyluciash, in the 2.0 admin menu there's a "wiki cache" link, the lists all the linked-to urls, and they can be deleted. [06:49]
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luciashchibaguy: i know, i mean when you forgot for the same link to put the nocache param, then the page is cached anyway regardless if there's another existing link with the same URI and nocache parameter, right ? [06:52]
chibaguyWell, anyway in a single page, if a link gets nocache once, another instance of the same link in the page also has no (cache) link. [06:58]
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luciashah, ok, then you have to specify it only once... that's better i think [07:01]
chibaguyyes [07:01]
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well, I just went through the list on tiki-list_cache.php and deleted URIs that I didn't wanted cached, including the Sourceforge svn links on Theme_template_files, and now the page is clean of unwanted (cache) links. :-)
Great. Now there is no (cache) link even when I _don't_ indicate nocache. :-) 		[07:17]
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One thing: if a URI is already in tiki-list_cache.php (has a previous instance of being linked to and cached), using "nocache" when the link is added again to a page has no effect; the (cache) link displays anyway.
These seems to be in contrast to the case of a link being put on a page twice, once with nocache and once without -- in this case, the nocache prevents (cache) for both links.
But I don't know why "cache external links" is no longer being respected at the site. 		[07:35]
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chibaguyUh oh, changing the comment tags in css files from Smarty to CSS style broke the $Id$ svn keyword. Now it isn't expanded. :-( [08:17]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14614 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [ENH] put tips in the right place for the menu and preserve tab position [08:39]
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ParagtimAnyone know how to make fckeditor load a template by default? [09:02]
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sylviegdo we have a refresh backlink somewhere? [11:29]
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ozgenieI have been running TikiWiki for a number of months now and everything has been working fine until tonight. When I go to edit a page I get the following message "You don't have permission to access /twconvic/tiki-editpage.php on this server." Anyone have any ideas why this may be [12:33]
ParagtimA corrupted file is the most likely. Have you cleared the cache? [12:35]
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ParagtimRick - The man !! - on the last visit module the date shows as Fri 29 OF Month. Any way of getting rid of the of that you know of? [12:41]
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ricks99__sure...
u can mod the tpl
u can also define the date format on admin: general
is that what u mean? 		[12:48]
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Morpheushello. I have a problem with a multilingual site if I enable "detect the browser language": If I change the language using the switch_lang module it always falls back to German. (u can try it at series60-remote.sf.net ) [13:10]
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xavi1hi there, from TikiFestPorto
did somebody manage to use http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginPhpFreeChat ?
I can't manage to use it, and trying at http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php?page=BabelWiki08
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Paragtimrick - Sorry for the break - Late lunch. You are a star. Never even saw the word "of" in the date format. Its gone now and the suits will be a little happier [13:48]
marclaportepolom [13:55]
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sylviegricks99: do you subscribe to svn list - about my last commetn about <br> in radio? [14:04]
ricks99havent seen it yet.
i just added a <br to radio buttons in trackers.
is that what u mean?
* ... off to check my email 		[14:09]
@sylvieg: did not see the email? [14:21]
sylviegI think the <br /> must be an option
for instance a radio between 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 it is not pretty to have a >br/>
I think it depends of the content of the radio
IMHO - it need to be in 3.0 and need to be an additional option to the field 		[14:29]
ricks99without the <br>, you end up with somehting like: o1o2o3o4o5o6 how do u know if the radio button is to the left or right of the number?
very poor ui (imho)
maybe just me.
feel free to roll back 		[14:31]
sylviegok I agree - is a : ok or a ,
and then in 3.0 we do / i can do it the br option 		[14:34]
ricks99imho, the majority of cases will/should use <br />. only rating scales (like your example) make sense without
users already see issues with it: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=29931 		[14:36]
sylviegradio is new to 2.0? [14:40]
ricks99no.
(dont think so) 		[14:41]
sylviegif the others agree - I will do the option in 2.0 - because for my 1,2,3,4 .. I need on the same line [14:43]
ricks99so, ur fix will be, if options are seaprated by "," use BR, if seaprated by ":" no line break? good idea [14:44]
sylvieg.. this fields syntax is a mess
list of option terminated with <br> 		[14:46]
marclaportepolom [14:59]
xavi1niclone ? we are at TikiFestPorto and we are interested in testing the Mod you made: "PluginPhpFreechat". however we can't get it to work further than saying "Chat loading. Please wait". We've enabled ajax, and manually installed the plugin (lib and wiki-plugin files, taken from svn). Does it need any thing else?
tried in local (ubuntu 8.04 box) and on server, both of them using Tiki 2.0 		[15:06]
sylviegxavi1: there is one working here http://help.csregistry.org/tiki-index.php?page=freecha [15:08]
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xavi1thanks sylvieg [15:20]
mmm, it's kind of slow for me...
anyway, did you install it yourself, sylvieg ?
I'm wondering what are we missing...
we need a kind of chat for wiki-translation for monday, since the babelwiki workshop will be held during...
...as part of Wikisym2008, and we'd prefer to dogfood tikiwiki resources, before going to install/embed external chats .... 		[15:25]
ricks99xavi1: if u dont mind an exteral chat, i use meebo from my tiki. light, fast and easy to implement [15:35]
xavi1thanks ricks99 . That's our second option.... (I always prefer to dogfood tiki resources first, or give them a try, a least...). I'll email niclone [15:40]
ricks99:) [15:47]
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MorpheusI have a problem with a multilingual site if I enable "detect the browser language": If I change the language using the switch_lang module it always falls back to German. (u can try it at series60-remote.sf.net ) [15:52]
nikhilodeon___hi, i had a question for anyone re: the sql plugin described at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginSQL&bl=y i have set up the dsn, logged in as an admin, entered the following code: {SQL(db=>zrw_dsn)}SELECT * FROM users_users{SQL} but nothing appears [15:53]
sylviegyou need a perm even as admin
tiki_dns_basename ... or something like that 		[15:53]
ricks99@Morpheous: is german the default? (site appears in EN for me) [15:56]
Morpheusricks99: yes, but the language should be detected by the browsers accept-language
ricks99: but if you select "Deutsch" in the right combobx it falls back to english 		[15:58]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14617 /branches/2.0/templates/styles/moreneat/tiki-show_page.tpl: [FIX]syntax error [15:59]
ricks99y, but im taken to the german home (startseite) [15:59]
nikhilodeon___sylvieg - right - i checked that, and the admins group has the following permission: tiki_p_dsn_zrw_dsn [15:59]
ricks99odd. not swicthing the actual lang ? [16:00]
Morpheusricks99: is the rest of the page also translated? (Menu, Login and so) [16:02]
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ricks99no. weird [16:03]
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Morpheusricks99: yes, this only works if i disable "detect the browser language" [16:06]
luciashheya, many greetings to TikiFest Porto ! :) [16:09]
xavi1hi luciash :-)
I need some help for the module minichat to show on the full with on Tiki central column.... 		[16:22]
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xavi1it's kind of weird.... it's showing fine on http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestPorto (using tikineat.css)
but not taking the full with at http://wiki-translation.com/BabelWiki08 (using kubrick.css , latest vesrion from Gary)
module minichat is the other dogfood simple option to have a chat (even if simple) on a wiki page....
demo time here of flex & wiki 		[16:24]
niclonehi xavi1 [16:28]
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niclonexavi1: is the minichat working?
ah, i'm reading :) 		[16:29]
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niclonexavi1: i've answered some questions on the chat on http://wiki-translation.com/BabelWiki08 [16:42]
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xavi1back
hi niclone . i'll read your comments 		[16:59]
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SEWilco2When I add a "desc", the "imalign=right" stops working on an image and text stops wrapping around the image. Was this fixed in a recent version? [17:16]
xavi1niclone, minichat width is better, thanks!
niclone : and what about the Pluginphpfreechat ? how do you make it work? (see irc above) 		[17:16]
nicloneI had some problem with it and firefox 3 [17:17]
xavi1yes, ff3, that's what I'm using.... :-( [17:17]
niclonedid you tried with an another navigator? [17:17]
xavi1I'll try
it's profiles demo time now
I'll be back in 30' or so 		[17:17]
nicloneok [17:18]
xavi1thanks for feedback, niclone :-) [17:18]
nicloneu're welcome ;) [17:18]
xavi1back temporarily (profiles demo delayed)
niclone , how can you have more than one channel specified?
how do you separate channel names?
channel=#help and #default, for instance 		[17:26]
niclonexavi1: use ,
channel=#help,#default 		[17:38]
xavi1thanks
and niclone, where is the log of the chat saved? 		[17:39]
niclonexavi1: there are in a sql table: tiki_minichat [17:43]
xavi1I mean, will the chat log be retrievable later on?
so... is there an easy way to say: show log from day ddmmyyyy or similar? 		[17:43]
niclonexavi1: actually no, except phpmyadmin... [17:43]
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marclaporteHI Simmi! [17:44]
niclonexavi1: on the version you've seen on csregistry, there are also droped after 24h ... [17:44]
xavi1(since many people from wiki-translation look for chats that can show the log later on... this would be a good add-on to support us to dogfood minichat...). Right now they normally use skype...
niclone, and the default minichat on tiki 2.0, are logs dropped by default after 24h or so? 		[17:44]
niclonexavi1: ok, maybe i'll do it, it's not hard
xavi1: no
xavi1: there are never dropped, this mean that the table can grow grow grow... ;) 		[17:45]
xavi1oh, that looks great, niclone, so that we can try (or I'll suggest to, at least) using minichat for babelwiki08
and if in the future (?) there is a way to retrieve logs, then people might review chat conversations during babelwiki08 workshop, without leaving tiki ... :-)
btw, niclone, I?ve started a page on doc.tw.o for documentation minichat... that's a nice feature I didn't know of! (marclaporte just told me about it some hours ago when I realized that deafult chat feature was removed from admin panels, etc.) 		[17:46]
niclonehehe, it was commited just before features freeze of 2.0 ;) [17:49]
marclaporteniclone: hi!
niclone: : if you happen to be in Paris next Saturday, we'll have a TikiFest! 		[17:50]
niclonehi marclaporte
no it's not in my projects ;) 		[17:50]
marclaporteSimmi: please see: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/commit
hehe
niclone: : can your projects change? :-)
There will be beer
:-) 		[17:51]
niclonemarclaporte: I apreciate you're proposition ;) unfortunatly I have some others important projects [17:54]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14618 /mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/iframe/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_iframe.php: move to trunk [18:25]
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xavipolom [18:37]
niclone ?
we've tried pluginphpfreechat with IE6 on Linux and IE7 on windows , and it doesn't show any differnt behavior than with ff3 on linix or windows: "chat loading. please wait"
and nothing else 		[18:44]
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Caarriexavi: you just looking for _any_ chat to work with tw? [18:56]
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xavihi Caarrie [19:12]
Caarriehi xavi [19:12]
xaviwell, not any, starting from tiki resources first
dogfooding attempt first, you know (plus free software first, etc.) 		[19:12]
Caarriehave you looked at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=810&trackerId=5&show=view
it hooks into tw ;) 		[19:13]
xaviwell, looks nice. :-) We are looking for simpler solutions (which don't require java virtual machine, at least), like the minichat module niclone added... http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+minichat
documentation still to be improved.... 		[19:19]
niclone, the minichat stopped working on w-t, http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php?page=trial [19:25]
PS|botSVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14619 /trunk/templates/tiki-read_article.tpl: [FIX] Keep all articletrailer items on the same line, especially the language selector [19:26]
SEWilco2I'm looking for a text-wrapped image with caption. What does the Annotation plugin do? Undocumented and demo only shows an image with a "Save changes to annotations" button. http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php?page=TestAnnotationPlugin&bl=n [19:29]
niclonexavi: there is a feature that should be actived (feature_minichat)
xavi: (yeah, it should said it... i need to put more checks about this)
xavi: i can see it here: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-minichat_ajax.php 		[19:41]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14620 /trunk/db/ (tiki.sql tiki_2.0to3.0.sql): [FIX] Fields lengths to install on windows mysql (strict settings by default) [20:04]
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marclaportehttp://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Custom+email+message+to+new+tikiwiki.org+registrants [20:24]
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xaviniclone, thanks. I've re-enabled ajax.
however, not yet....
I'll clean cache on server (already cleaned browser cache, just in case)
niclone, in the meantime, lphuberdeau_updated wiki-translation.com code to latest 2.0svn ... maybe something changed in the code, that make minichat not work any more????
I'm running out of ideas... 		[20:59]
mmm, seems lphuberdeau_found something that he added to the code recently that could be the reason why minichat doesn't work right now on latest 2.0svn... he's checking [21:17]
SEWilco2!! doc.tw.o Features has been broken for at least two days. Look for "No records found". http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Features&bl=y [21:22]
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xaviSEWilco2 or SEWilc1 : thanks for reporting
SEWilco2 or SEWilc1 : reloading the page to avoid tiki cache for that page seems to fix (avoid) the problem. 		[21:26]
sylvieglphuberdeau_: if fact - I think I am completly missed up with the backlinks - please do not consider my message before I understand better [21:30]
xavimarclaporte says that some coders know but it's difficult to reproduce and fix [21:30]
lphuberdeau_alright [21:32]
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xaviniclone: fixed . minichat working again no wiki-translation.
dinner time here 		[21:37]
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MorpheusI have a problem with a multilingual site if I enable "detect the browser language": If I change the language using the switch_lang module it always falls back to German. (u can try it at series60-remote.sf.net ) [21:41]
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sylviegCan we write ((THis Is My Page|it is mine))
even ((This is my page)) does not work
but [this is my page] works - but it is not recognized in the backlinks
... what a mess 		[21:45]
are user able to switch language? [21:53]
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kerrnelIf I make a change to a db table, how do I propgate it and which files do I commit? [22:11]
sylviegdb/tiki.sql db/tiki_2.0to3.0.sql [22:13]
kerrnelI updated both of them and when I try and commit it tells me that the 2.0 to 3.0 file is not under version control
nevermind, I figured out why it isn't
ok, thanks 		[22:14]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 14624 /branches/experimental/kerrnel-2.5/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] Tracker items will now display the username (or the realName if provided) of the user who created or last updated a tracker item. This is viewed as part of the showCreated and showLastModif permissions and does not apply to items in a list. A minor database table update is required to add the createdBy and lastModifBy fields. [22:16]
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NefariousCMan. PS|bot ignored my commit d: [22:32]
Caarriethen CIA-54 did as well as it is just a script from there ;) [22:39]
NefariousCTragic.
(Alternately, I can commit. Like a ghost.) 		[22:51]
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lepi098Is it possible with Tikiwiki to have XML Sitemap? [23:11]
lphuberdeau_I don't think it's a feature right now, but I see no reason why it couldn't be possible
just need someone to do it 		[23:12]
lepi098aha [23:12]
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