In the topbar custom code, {if $prefs.style eq "newtheme.css"}{include file="styles/newtheme/newtheme_top.tpl"}{/if}  works _only_ when I'm logged in.
In 1.9, {if $style eq "tikineat.css"...} works as a filter (used in themes.tw.o menu module, for example).
...and works consistently whether user is logged in or not.
I thought the $ -> $prefs. change was just a matter of syntax. But did functionality also change? 
$prefs.style gives priority to user theme preference _over_ the theme set by Theme Manager.
So I guess I need to find a better way to filter.
IOW if I choose Theme A as my personal theme pref, but Page B uses Theme B as set by Theme Manager, then Page B is displayed correctly with Theme B. But the topbar custom code filter doesn't work, and the custom code only displays if I set my user pref theme to Theme B.
Hi
Hi, MatWho_
polom
Landon: if you have Acrobat Reader plugin in your web browser installed it should display PDF "inline" with link syntax using shadowbox relation, e.g. [URLtothePDFfile|My PDF file|shadowbox;title=My PDF]
ah, that's great, thanks!
np :)
I wonder if there's a way to have more than one theme (and CSS file) like new-theme-blue.css, new-theme-red.css use the same templates/styles/new-theme/ files.
chibaguy: yes, it is
chibaguy: it works like with user customized CSS styles via Tiki
chibaguy: means if you create simple-gary.css it will reuse simple's tpl files
Really, just by using hyphen?
yep
Oh boy.
thanks
heh, np
btw, I watched amette's video last night. very smooth. :-)
yeah, me too, very nice, we trained him ;)
:-)
Hello ! Do you know if there's a way to render milestones on tikiwiki, a bit like this http://trac.edgewall.org/roadmap  ?
mib_uv76ha, there's a "gauge" plugin -- Displays a graphical GAUGE:{GAUGE(color=>, bgcolor=>, max=>, value=>, size=>, label=>, labelsize=>, perc=>, height=>)}description{GAUGE}
General purpose, not specifically for milestones.
You'd have to add the labels/links manually.
hmm, I was thinking of something like a plug-in that could display bug numbers and link their status with bugzilla
maybe too ambitious
If Tiki has another method, I don't know.
ok
thanks
There's Trackers and the wiki plugin for them, but I'm not sure about this use exactly.
As far as reporting bugzilla data automatically/dynamically, you'd have to code that, as a plugin, afaik.
ok
Trackers is impressive anyway
Looking at that edgewall roadmap, that'd be a nice feature for trackers to have.
Well, I' m first looking for other stuff that does the same thing. Some seem very complete http://www.taskjuggler.org/screenshots/TaskJuggler/TJ-TaskReport2.png !
Well, a specialized tool, I guess can be something for Tiki to aim for, but hard to reach, as a practical matter.
I' m thinking of maybe a web app to manage entries and do bugzilla stuff, and let the roadmap being displayed as an external image
anyway, thank you for your ideas
np, good luck.
I let you know when my (kick asses-) timeline plug-in is ready !
Hey, great. Thanks. :-)
SVN:  Commit by Jyhem :: r 14659 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletter_subscriptions.tpl: [FIX] Display complete email  
'morning!
hi MacLeod
SVN:  Commit by Jyhem :: r 14660 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletter_subscriptions.tpl: [SEC] Some missing escapes on input variables  
ricks, you write TikiWiki for Smarties?
yup
nice work  :)
ty
Hm, looks like Anon users are now (v2.0) getting an error message before they have even tried to log in to our site, because they don't have access to view the home page.
This will undoubtedly confuse and deter some of them from trying to log in.
is ur home page categorized? new perm (view_categorized) will be required
It's not categorized.
Oh, wait... "categorize this object" is checked, but no category is selected.   :)
Let's try unchecking that...
Still getting an error message when not logged in.
try clearning tiki caches
does page have page-specific perms?
"No individual permissions, category permissions apply"
page is uncategorized?
Page is uncategorized.
wiki page? anon has tiki_p_view, right?
polom
SVN:  Commit by Jyhem :: r 14661 /trunk/ (36 files in 36 dirs): [ENH] Capitalisation  
Yes, wiki page.  No, anon does not have tiki_p_view.  This is an internal corporate site.
However, I normally have the home page set to allow anon to view.  Disabled that until the templates can be recustomized.
u need to add tiki_p_view to that page only
First I have to re-customize the template so that contributor information doesn't show at the bottom.
Or I suppose I could just disable contributor information in the meantime.
in 2.0 u can override the contributor info on a page-by-page basis
use the "list authors by page setting" on wiki config
then edit the home page to omit the list authors
oh, good!
SVN:  Commit by ricks99 :: r 14662 /trunk/db/features.csv: [MOD]lots of notes, tips, and dependencies added  
Beautiful - that works.  Thx, ricks!
Wonder why the "Discuss" button still shows up at the bottom of the page for Anon?   None of the others are there.
does anon have forum perms?
Anon has nothing.  Anons clicking that "Discuss" button get a "you don't have permission to use that feature" error.
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14663 /branches/2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: radio buttons can be separated by br or a space with an option <br>- the change should have never been done in 2.0  
ahh.. button only checks if feature is enabled, doesnt  do the perm check until later :(
so much for wycsiwyca approach :(
that 'splains it
I've got the same problem with the CATEGORY plugin.... or did in v1.9.x.  Haven't checked to see if it's still that way in 2.0.
I've gotta read the updates to category permissions, anyway.
Anyone using the minichat module in 2.0?
haven't tried it yet.  wasn't too thrilled with the chat module in 1.9.9.  Is this one different?
Anyone know why *any* change to Admin:Features always disables feature_edit_templates and user_assigned_modules ?
Yes, MacLeod, this one is small and simple, uses Ajax for updates without a full page refresh, etc. And messages are stored in the db so will be there if you leave and come back.
But it isn't working for me now. It worked earlier, before the 2.0 release.
interesting.  the full page refresh was what I didn't like.
And xavi has it working on one of his sites. I don't know what the difference is.
where can I enable it?  can't find it in admin:features.
No, it's a module, so on admin modules.
oh
You can run it in a wiki page with the module plugin, tho.
(but maybe have to adjust the stylesheet if modules are limited to 170px wide or whatever.
goddamnit.  I.S. must have the word "chat" in its ban list.
what happens?
googling "tikiwiki minichat module" gives me an access denied error
Did you try previewing the module?
DAMN!  the tw.doc.o page itself is blocked!
Yeah, I can preview the module.
Was looking up doc.tw.o to see the parameters.
It should run without any parameters set.
tho with parameters you can specify chat channels.
well, i assigned it to the left column, but whenever I try to enter anything I get an "Error on page" in the browser status bar.
JS problem?
well, it doesn't work for me either. 
I'm not sure. No lines display and nothing turns up in the db table.
(gotta walk the dog now. bbl.)
didn't i see somewhere in the admin screens where we can enable Ajax?
yep
* rick thinks tht ajax (like wysiwyg) is not yet ready for prime time :(
does that have to be enabled in order for minichat to work?
so far the only thing i don't like about wysiwyg is that it's not compatible with wiki syntax
like i said, not ready for prime time. i expect to be 100% switching/compatible (like confluence)
yah, ideally it should be.  is that likely to happen soon, or is there a serious technical challenge with fckeditor and TW syntax?
OK, I enabled Ajax (which of course *disabled* feature_edit_templates and user_assigned_modules again), but minichat still isn't working.
Whoa!  Enabling Ajax screwed up the icons (MyTiki, Bookmarks, Modules, etc.) in User Preferences.
thx chibaguy for your answer about ajax
They disappeared until I disabled Ajax.
That's right. With Ajax there's a different display in MyTiki.
It was also working better before the release, but seems more or less bugged in 2.0l
2.0
Except I link straight to User Preferences, rather than to MyTiki.
I tried various combos of ajax and mootools, etc. to try to get minichat to work, and had no success.
nice module idea.  better than shoutbox.  i'd probably use it if it worked.
The only problem is the address bar activity, which kind goes through a cycle even tho the page is stable.
Not really a problem, but kind of gives the site a busy feeling or something.
Of course if you use the module in a dedicated page, then you expect that refresh thing going on.
dunno what our users would think of that
In a column when you're doing something else, it could be a little distracting.
although I think they'd be impressed by the ability to ask other wiki users, "Hey, does anyone know where the hell to find information on X?"
(gotta do some stuff, will be back a bit later)
I wonder what the policy is on commits, how to choose to 2.0 or to trunk?
For things like minor template modifications, etc.
Guess I'll ask on the dev list.
I've been browsing around the different styles and on a couple there is a toolbox.  It shows up in the left hand column but not in the modules section.  1st question - where do I find it?  2nd question can I move all the top icons into it. print, edit, backlinks etc.  3rd question how do close the gap between tiki-top and the columns below
chibaguy: you are not supposed too - but it is very tempting - I know...
hi sylvieg, maybe some things committed to trunk will be backported, I guess, if important enough.
Paragtim, the toolbox is in the Tikipedia theme, right?
It's the contents (box stuff, no data) of module.tpl pasted into tiki.tpl, and the page edit icons, etc. hardcoded in it, with a Smarty filter to display it on wiki pages only.
Was just looking at the logs and saw some discussion on Minichat...what's the consensus...broken?
Darkbee, it is/was working recently on a site of xavi's and at tw.o. And it worked for me before the 2.0 release. But I can't get it to work now. I'm wondering what other people's experience/luck is with it.
It didn't work for me in 2.0 but never tried before that
The docs page says that "Chat" is an under developed feature and processor intensive, but I'm assuming that's not the same thing as "minichat"?
Sounds like you have made it work elsewhere?
No, Darkbee, that's the old chat.
The new one is small and light and works nicely when it works.
It'd be nice if I could get working..my poor users have no clue what they're doing and need real-time help.. I've taken to trying out "live support" but it's not the greatest feature ever.
Live support is kinda on life support as far as I know.
Or maybe not even that.
lol
it works...barely!  It seems to be inconsistent... when I was testing it, I wouldn't always receive support requests
I'm pretty sure minichat can be made to work, probably just a minor config or code thing stopping it.
well being that I'm a programming master after my code altering of a few days go..maybe I'll go hacking around  ;)
sure, why not. have fun. ;-)
erm...fun..yeah...sure, why not! :)
Just tried it on another 2.0 site and same thing... no response..although it seems like it tries to send data back and forth
I assume that I should see my own message?
Yep, just like this chat.
nothing gets submitted to the database, tho. I checked.
So I guess the send is broken.
You said that you got it working in previous versions.. you mean 2.0 dev versions?
yep, one of the rc versions, right after the files were committed.
okies.  I didn't think 1.9.11 had it, especially if it's using ajax
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/2.0/modules/mod-minichat.php?view=log
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/2.0/templates/modules/mod-minichat.tpl?view=log
Seems like the files haven't changed so maybe it's an interaction or config problem.
Example: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php?page=BabelWiki08&redirectpage=BabelWiki
bedtime in chiba. cya later.
Interesting... if I try to add the minichat as a module to a wiki page I get a URL issue (looks like the chat is trying to add strings to the URL)
code used: {MODULE(module=>minichat,decorations=>y,rows=30,channels=#help)}{MODULE}
error: The requested URL /tikiwiki/temp&saved_msg=y was not found on this server.
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14667 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14551 to 14665  
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14668 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: notice  
@Darkbee - that's also interesting to me, since a wiki page that has the last_visitors module embedded in it will no longer work under v2.0.
HTTP 500 error
However, I can edit and preview the page just fine.
{MODULE(module=last_visitors,max=5000)/}
Woo-hoo!  I finally have an FTP login to our TW server.
Now I can stop destroying templates when the in-wiki editor strips out all the JS.
What app do y'all edit the templates in?
DW and Notepad
DW?
dreamweaver
Ah, thx.  I'll stick with Notepad.  ;)
Weird... I don't see a folder for tikineat in the /styles/ folder
just a CSS file
not all themes override things, some are just css
ah
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14669 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.ajax_href.php: [FIX]ajax: when using ajax - always go back at the top of the window (ex: in admin->quicktags or pagination on tiki-listpages)  
So in the in-wiki editor, when the button sez "Save Only in the Theme: tikineat-MacLeod"...  where does it save the tpl file?
in templates/styles/tikineat-MacLeod
you probably need to create that, i never mess with the wiki editor
k, thx!
easier for me to just steal a tpl file and dump in templates/styles/whatever and use vi on it
i learned not to mess with the wiki editor after breaking two templates (JS stripped)
yeah there is that too
templates/styles are overrides for templates, tiki checks there first for 'foo.tpl', then checks templates, which makes it easy to replace tpls for whatever reason
Hey MacLeod... you should use Notepad++ (no Windows product, fully open source)
It has syntax coloring/highlighting, tabs for multiple files... much more efficient than notepad
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net
If I had any control over software installation on my workstation, I'd do that.  However, this is the domain of Mordac the Preventer.  :(
So what's the plan for WYSIWYG going forward?  Stay with fckeditor, or pick another?  Try to make wysiwyg fully compatible and switchable with wiki syntax, or leave it as a defining choice for each page?
theres some good patches in TRUNK. but imho not quite ready
does it output wiki syntax, or still HTML?
hi is there a $firstname variable in smarty that i can use instead of $user? am trying to add a welcome, <<John>>  to a module
html, but it switches back & forth better than before.
gotcha
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14670 /trunk/lib/setup/error_reporting.php: [MOD] try to force display_error if some errors reporting is asked - it can work on some servers  
{$prefs.realName} can work perhaps...
can somebody upload files in tikitrunk?
the button upload/add file does not work for me
Macleod are you using Windows?
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 14671 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]parse: %%% must be parsed before dynamic var for no interference  
SVN:  Commit by ricks99 :: r 14672 /trunk/templates/modules/mod-login_box.tpl: [MOD]tell users how long the remember me is active  
"Error URL cannot be accessed wrong URL or site is offline and cannot be added to the directory. " http://www.afcrossroads.com/
It looks accessible to me, but Directory doesn't like it.
Maybe my server is having a DNS failure.
hi all, does anyone know how to set the <meta name="description" in the generated HTML from a WIKIPage. Ideally this should be set from the wikipage description.
Hmm.. nope, not a DNS failure.  Something else is making Directory not like that URL.
oh well, back to the source code :)
I see. "@$fsh = fopen($_REQUEST['url'],'r');" returned false for some reason.
polom
Hi Mat
Simmi: hi
Login as admin and goto the admin control panel and select the MataTags option (I presume it's still there in 2.0 - I'm still on 1.9.11)
There you can set the description metatag
Simmi: I want to do this on tw.o!
Simmi: also I want it to be different on soe pages
soe=some
Then no can do. It must be the same sitewide.
Simmi: this is a priority feature request, it makes tw.o look very bad in Google
Our favourite words for the day are Custom Headers. Then it must pull the metatag info from somewhere - perhaps a tracker :-)
There is no where in the page info in the database that stores metatags on a page by page basis.
Simmi: wel it would be easier to just put the page description in as the header
thre is page selector field in trunk - but the propagation in the meta are not yet done
Well there you go..
sylvieg: sorry what is a page selector?
look in doc.tw.org - my ff is dead- can not give the url
sylvieg: Sorry, can't find it..
sylvieg: ok so i understand page trackers! How does this help get the header fields set with the page description?
the page is ((user/Group/IP/Page - Selector tracker field))
I told you - it is a beginning
sylvieg: small things make great beginnings :)
a tracker that can collect info on a page - but nothing to reinject in the html .... it is just a idea .... perhaps it will be the way to do it - perhaps npt
sylvieg: I would like to know more about what you are talking about. Could you explain again how I can get to ((user/Group/IP/Page - Selector tracker field)) ?
Got it...