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| chibaguy | Related to the talk about editors and syntax, I hope it will be possible to use the CODE plugin to display . . . code . . . and have it display without parts getting removed. or without having to convert brackets, etc. first (Seems like a reasonable request, right? ;-) ) | [00:49] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14869 /branches/2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Bad nested span removed from tiki-browse_gallery.tpl (was causing problem with watch icon), spans added to give list gallery same button look as browse gallery, button style, tocnav contrast, gallery thumb td borders fixed in darkroom.css. | [02:24] |
| chibaguy | Checking out the watch icon styling in tiki-browse_gallery.tpl, I found: <span class="button2"><a><span class="button2">link</span></a> .. <span....etc.> hm hm hm....I wondered why Firebug showed a span including two buttons and the icon.. | [02:38] |
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| leon007 | Hi, I am becoming a regular here with my question... This time I hope it's something basic... If I have a wiki page say "Test2", and I want to have it named instead as "Description of Test2", can I rename the page without having to modify say 30 other pages that are linked to it?
Alternatively... Is there a concept of "Displayed page title" as opposed to "linked paged title"? thanks | [04:05] |
| franck | leon007: you can rename and all the linked wiki page will update
but only the wiki pages... now what I often do, is that I enable the use page description in the wiki settings, and I modify the tpl file to make the page description the bigger title... but I think if you enable use page description and disable show page name you get a similar result... | [04:06] |
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| leon007 | sorry, franck, I had to do something else and didn't see your reply... Let me have a quick look at the settings, since this is what I'd like to do, namely show description and not necessarily pages | [04:24] |
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| leon007 | franck, another silly question, how do I set "description" for a page?
BTW, if I use {INCLUDE}, those didn't get updated with the changed name... | [04:50] |
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| chibaguy | leon007, for page description, first make sure it's turned on on the admin-wiki page. Then there'll be a box to input it on the wiki edit page. | [05:30] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14871 /trunk/templates/ (54 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Remaining instances of <a class="linkbut"> (those not inside div class="navbar" or already inside <span class="button2">, etc.) changed to <span class="button2"><a>, so all instances should have this format now. (A few files remaining pending commit conflict resolution.) | [05:31] |
| leon007 | thanks chibaguy! is there a way to make description be filled in from the "page name" automatically? | [05:41] |
| chibaguy | No, I don't think so. | [05:43] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14872 /trunk/templates/ (4 files): [FIX] Remaining instances of <a class="linkbut"> (those not inside div class="navbar" or already inside <span class="button2">, etc.) changed to <span class="button2"><a>, so all instances should have this format now. | [05:45] |
| leon007 | Thanks! and another basic wiki question... I want an image that goes with a wiki page to appear on the right and text to be wrapped around it (a common view that happens on Wikipedia).
but I don't seem to know how to do it with <image> tag... This is the place - http://www.schneidermans.org/Schneiderman+-+meaning+of+the+name | [05:45] |
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| chibaguy | Are you using wiki syntax?
You can use something like {img src="img/wiki_up/my_image.jpg" imalign=right} Sometimes I put the image in a div (using DIV plugin) to float it and give it some padding or border, etc. (We need a doc or tutorial or FAQ on common wiki page layout techniques.) | [05:52] |
| leon007 | I am using wiki syntax - {img src="img/wiki_up/TheTailor.jpg" align=center imalign=right} | [05:59] |
| chibaguy | I'll crank up Firefox/Firebug and take a look.... | [06:00] |
| leon007 | oh, taking align=center out helps a bit
is there a way to specify more padding around the image? (sorry for such basic questions) | [06:01] |
| chibaguy | According to Firebug, the image is in a div that's full-width, which explains why the text isn't flowing around it. | [06:03] |
| I'm comparing to a page where I have an image floated right using the img syntax, and in my case the image is in a span, not a div.
I wonder if you could try your img syntax again, to make sure it's right, or changing some of the details. | [06:08] | |
| leon007 | ok, let me play around... I did use {img}, i.e. wiki originally, now I switched to <img >, i.e. html syntax
thanks | [06:10] |
| chibaguy | Ok, I see you've made changes. Funny, but the page source is still different than mine. I guess the syntax info difference accounts for it.
Ah, I see. Well, I like the wiki syntax so tend to use it all the time. About the padding, you can put it in a div, as I mentioned. Or actually I made an IMGSTYLED plugin that has margin parameters, etc. Haven't used it in a while so don't know if it's still compatible. | [06:10] |
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| leon007 | oh, that would be good to get hold of that plugin... I am concerned that people that are not so computer literate will have a hard time adding in a picture :( But I played around and got the best results with html so far... | [06:18] |
| chibaguy | I don't know why {IMG(src=xxx imalign=right} didn't work for you. It does for me.
Uh {img src="img/wiki_up/my_image.jpg" imalign=right} | [06:19] |
| leon007 | chibaguy, it did work for me, but not so nicely... the text was too close to the image... I think it also depended on location of where I stuck the image... Where I put it now, looks good, so probably {} would also work now... I can try | [06:26] |
| chibaguy | Yeah, maybe the img tag should have a margin either built in by default or configurable as a parameter.
Possibly the theme stylesheet could set it, not sure. Ah yeah, I remember the issue there. Any .wikitext img property also applies to smileys and other odds and ends because none of these have their own class, last time I checked. | [06:29] |
| leon007 | documentation says that hspace is supported for img, but it didn't seem to work for me for some reason in wiki format... I also checked wisywig editor, there image insertion is pretty decent, I think | [06:30] |
| chibaguy | hspace is deprecated, if I recall correctly. CSS should be used instead.
(same with align as a tag, I believe) | [06:32] |
| leon007 | yeah, so may be I should add it to my own css - when I get to such "advanced features" ;) - but now it's time for bed - have a good one and thanks for all your help! | [06:39] |
| chibaguy | ok cya later | [06:39] |
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| chibaguy | the {img} tag needs a class parameter, I think. | [06:47] |
| Ah, undocumented (so far) feature: it does support class parameter. Then the img with the configurable class is inside a span.img. | [06:53] | |
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| chibaguy | Since img supports class, the stylesheet could have, maybe under .wikitext, .imgleft and .imgright that would have 0 margin on their page-border side, to be flush, and 8px or whatever on the text side. This would solive the text-up-against-the-img problem, and keep the margins straight. | [06:59] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14873 /trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] .rbox and other misc. small fixes | [07:33] |
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| stix | where can I see what's new in 2.1? | [08:23] |
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| luciash | stix: here → http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=40 | [08:46] |
| stix | thanks :) | [08:46] |
| luciash | see the changelog | [08:47] |
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| lq_726 | i've been trying to modify planetfall theme for tikiwiki 2+ to get the left column back to left, but i only manage to break the theme
can someone help how is it done? | [10:21] |
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| lq_726 | nevermind, i deleted cache and now it works... | [10:32] |
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| komodo | hi, first thanks for work at tiki. we use tiki dalily and it's great. but, i have upgraded from 1.9 to 2.1, everything is ok, except that thing, that i can't see Search when i am not logged in. i have enabled search_box module and rights are for Anonymous and Registered. but i thing it's theme problem because when i change the theme to defautl then i can see search box. can you please help me ? i dont want use default theme | [11:12] |
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| stix | komodo, there is a new permission in 2.0, tiki_p_search tiki Can search
if you dont assign that to the usergroup the search box will not be displayed | [11:43] |
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| philippeback | I am having trouble with the security filter turning javascript into ja<x>va script... any way to turn that off for specific cases ?
another question: how to turn off captions of boxes selectively ? I am doing a GoBack module: {MODULE(module=>GoBackModule)}{MODULE} | [11:47] |
| komodo | stix: thankoyu, but sorry for stupid question, where can i modify these settings ? | [11:49] |
| philippeback | but it turns out that my javascript in the module is filtered too ! | [11:49] |
| stix | komodo, you can do that here tiki-assignpermission.php?group=groupname | [11:50] |
| komodo | stix, thanks, but is there some direct link to this from Admin section ? | [11:51] |
| philippeback | bottom of screens in admin : groups
that damn list with everything in the bottom of the page. Or in the admin menu: groups click on the key icon | [11:52] |
| komodo | yeah there it is :-) thanks , i have always click on the group name link | [11:54] |
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| komodo | it works, Search box is there , thanks for the help :-) | [11:56] |
| philippeback | no issue, I am fighting with the beast too :-) | [11:58] |
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| philippeback | I am trying to do a module (JS mod installed) but Javascript got scraped out...
<table><tr><td>Back to<br/> previous page</td><td> {JS()} document.write('<a href="ja<x>vascript:history.go(-1)"> <img src="img/trionis/arrow_left.gif" border="0"/> </a>'); {JS} </td></tr></table> ja<x>!!! also, using the thing in a MODULE with decorations=n and notitle=y still give me a titled and decorated box :-( any clue ? If all else fails, I am willing to write my own plugin for this goback feature since it is either somewhat missing or unknown to me. so, where is the doc for writing a plugin ? Not found on the doc site... | [12:24] |
| sylvieg | can you put your jaavscript in a file and use JS with a file aprameter? | [12:30] |
| philippeback | actually yes I can
I didn't tought about that :-) any idea about the decorated box ? It's driving me nuts. | [12:31] |
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| marclaporte | hi philippeback! I am pleased to see you here | [12:36] |
| philippeback | :-)
I am now hooked to the tiki :-) Now doing this site for a commercial banking org. maybe a good case when done since I sweated quite significantly on CSS styling etc. SPLIT() is a godsend :-) but CSS menus with | between items are giving me headaches... I'll have to do my own php junk if I want to be on time. <table><tr><td>Back to<br/> previous page</td><td>{JS(src=lib/trionis/goback.js)/} </td></tr></table> document.write('<a href="javascript:history.go(-1)"><img src="/img/arrow_left.gif" border="0"/></a>'); mmh, bakc to the drawing board... | [12:36] |
| sylvieg | (for css menu- you have a lot of examples on the web about the suckerfish menus...it can help) | [12:40] |
| philippeback | yes, I've a pack of books from sitepoint about that.
spend several hours already but not able to do what the customer wants in a cross browser fashion. Nevermind.. :-) no way with the javascript... | [12:40] |
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| marclaporte | I made a back plugin once | [12:49] |
| philippeback | not in the list I am afraid | [12:50] |
| marclaporte | 2min | [12:50] |
| philippeback: : try: <input type=button value="Retour à la page précédente" inhibited_Click="history.go(-1)"> | [13:02] | |
| philippeback | coding... | [13:02] |
| marclaporte | naw, probably broken
with new security stuff | [13:02] |
| philippeback | mmmh | [13:03] |
| marclaporte | oh well | [13:03] |
| philippeback | so ?
how can I write my own module or prevent security to happen ? I mean plugin or... where is security located in code so that I can change it my way for this install... | [13:03] |
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| sylvieg | nkoth3: what happens to the mozilla guy who was working on tw search? any result? | [13:37] |
| nkoth3 | there is a sphinx search ready.... somewhat
meaning there is a searchlib.php i mean sphinxlib.php | [13:37] |
| sylvieg | cool | [13:37] |
| nkoth3 | i am supposed to document it as a package by the end of the month
wi(deadline) i'll post it to dev.tw.o at the same time | [13:40] |
| sylvieg | thx | [13:41] |
| nkoth3 | we still are facing a bug with some unicode char in sphinx
in general it is ok, but there are some character than seem to crash sphinx when it tries to index maybe someone can figure that out once it is tested | [13:41] |
| sylvieg | Are the perms integrated in sphinxlib or it is a post filter? | [13:51] |
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| super | hi
hi? | [14:14] |
| nkoth3 | sylvieg: perms are post filter
hi super, btw | [14:18] |
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| philippeback | problem with go back fixed. made my own (dirty) plugin since the code emitted by it not filtered. | [15:29] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14875 /trunk/tiki-list_users.php: [FIX] display the name of the missing feature: shoukld be nice to replace with the info in features.csv - any volunteer? | [15:36] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14876 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): index on tiki_banners | [16:03] |
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| joe55 | can I get some help with an installation problem? When i try to run tiki-install.php it just shows up completely white
if I go to view source, there is nothing there this is on a debian server any ideas? | [16:33] |
| snarlydwarf | anything in the apache error log? | [16:37] |
| joe55 | where is the apache error log?
typically | [16:39] |
| snarlydwarf | sylvieg: in tiki-edit_blog.php there is a line (cvs rev 6400, so ancient) that sets a redirect to location: tiki-list_blogs.php?blogId=$bid ... but I dont see anything in tiki-list_blogs.php that references the blogId as a param. is that cruft?
on debian /var/log/apache/error.log or apache2/error.log | [16:40] |
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| iannhigginson | hello all | [16:40] |
| joe55 | there doesn't appear to be anything related to this | [16:41] |
| snarlydwarf | no php compile errors or anything? | [16:42] |
| joe55 | oh wait... it's not in order
line 1 is a PHP Warning: Unable to initialize 'ionCube Loader' | [16:42] |
| snarlydwarf | welll that is odd.. ionCube is a thingie to let you encrypt your php files, only useful if you are developing or using proprietary PHP code where viewing source is considered a sin.
tiki is open source so doesnt need such a thing. viewing and changing source is your Tiki-given right. | [16:44] |
| joe55 | there is a line: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/4.4.8-8+etch6 mod_ssl/2.2.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8c mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 configured | [16:46] |
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| joe55 | the ionCube may not be related to tiki | [16:46] |
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| snarlydwarf | well i dunno what it would do if it cant initialize
echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > testfile.php and see if testfile.php shows you anything it should print a bunch of boring stuff for you | [16:47] |
| joe55 | i've messed with it before
want to see? | [16:48] |
| snarlydwarf | if that fails to run, I would look at ioncube and why it thinks it needs it
not really, just seeing if php is even running | [16:48] |
| joe55 | yea, we have phpbb running | [16:49] |
| snarlydwarf | so it can run a phpinfo() program? tried it in the same dir as tw? | [16:49] |
| joe55 | i want to switch to tikiwiki
oh not yet | [16:49] |
| snarlydwarf | it may be enabled for some directories
ie "/var/www/data" gets it, but nothing else and good for getting away from evil stuff no source sucks sucks sucks. | [16:49] |
| joe55 | i agree | [16:50] |
| snarlydwarf | and that renders? | [16:50] |
| joe55 | yes | [16:50] |
| snarlydwarf | hrrm, tiki-install isnt that complex.. it should whine a bunch if it has a problem
try touch tiki/db/lock that should break the installer but that is good, cause it checks that file at the very start | [16:50] |
| joe55 | should there be output? | [16:51] |
| snarlydwarf | so it should at least whine and say "sorry, you cant install"
yeah Installer disabled. Remove 'db/lock' to enable the installer.' is what it should say | [16:51] |
| joe55 | i mean from the touch command | [16:52] |
| snarlydwarf | well minus the funky escapes
ah, no , touch is quiet it just creates a file | [16:52] |
| joe55 | yea, it's whining now
"Installer disabled. Remove 'db/lock' to enable the installer." | [16:52] |
| snarlydwarf | k, you can rm tiki/db/lock then | [16:52] |
| joe55 | alright, done | [16:53] |
| snarlydwarf | hrm, not sure what a new install would do if permissions are wrong. have you run setup.sh? | [16:53] |
| joe55 | setup.sh root www-data
should I try root root? | [16:54] |
| snarlydwarf | nah, needs to be www-data so tw can write to it
should be www-data www-data that just goes through ans sets permissions on everything 'correctly' | [16:54] |
| joe55 | right | [16:55] |
| snarlydwarf | so tw can read what it needs and write what it needs but nothing else | [16:55] |
| joe55 | i re-ran it with www-data www-data
still nothing | [16:55] |
| snarlydwarf | hrrm
i dont have any other ideas on why it should be silent | [16:56] |
| joe55 | :( | [16:57] |
| snarlydwarf | is there a tiki/db/local.php file? | [16:58] |
| joe55 | nope | [16:58] |
| snarlydwarf | good there shouldnt be yet | [16:58] |
| joe55 | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation+Problems&bl=y#All_I_can_see_is_a_blank_page | [16:59] |
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| joe55 | i've been trying those things
no luck yet :( | [16:59] |
| snarlydwarf | hrm i dont recall doing any of that on debian, it just worked... but iḿam ancient and senile so dunno what i installed | [17:01] |
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| snarlydwarf | apt-get install php-pear (assuming php5) | [17:01] |
| joe55 | PHP Version 4.4.4-8+etch6 | [17:01] |
| snarlydwarf | oh i see.. php4
apt-get install php4-pear (and php5 is much nicer than php4 which is ancient) | [17:02] |
| joe55 | seems to have pear | [17:02] |
| snarlydwarf | ah php-pear should work on php4 | [17:02] |
| joe55 | hmmm
the path to pear in include_path in the php_info seems to be wrong | [17:03] |
| snarlydwarf | * Uncomment line 4 (UNIX) or line 8 (Windows) of db/tiki-db.php and Tiki will use a bundled PEAR::db distribution. It will work.
never tried that myself tho those lines dont match my source... | [17:04] |
| joe55 | that can't be up to date
yea what do you think of uncommenting line 9? | [17:05] |
| snarlydwarf | my guess is it is the api_tiki= pear, and then comment out the adodb one | [17:06] |
| joe55 | damn
still nothing :( I guess i'll try to find pear and update the php.ini | [17:07] |
| snarlydwarf | adding the die()s didnt show anything? | [17:08] |
| joe55 | let me try that now | [17:09] |
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| joe55 | line 142? | [17:10] |
| iannhigginson | if (isset($_REQUEST['pos'])) {
$smarty->assign('pos', $_REQUEST['pos']); } | [17:11] |
| snarlydwarf | hrrm, dunno, have trunk on my system | [17:11] |
| joe55 | oh
it's using adodb so it won't even hit the DB.php line | [17:11] |
| iannhigginson | ? how would I find that out | [17:13] |
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| ricks99 | hi all :) | [17:14] |
| joe55 | hmmmm, when i view source in IE i get something | [17:14] |
| ricks99 | is there any tiki-mechanism to allow an anonymous visitor to "monitor" a page?
i know anonymous visitors can subscribe their email to a newsletter, but is there a way to monitor a wiki page ? | [17:14] |
| joe55 | it's only 3 lines nothing that would display anything | [17:15] |
| snarlydwarf | you can change your include path in /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini | [17:15] |
| iannhigginson | looking | [17:15] |
| snarlydwarf | stock debian is to not have that set | [17:15] |
| joe55 | what path am i setting? | [17:16] |
| snarlydwarf | see if include_path is set there
or in the parent directory of tiki's .htaccess | [17:16] |
| joe55 | looks as if it's commented out | [17:16] |
| iannhigginson | line ? | [17:17] |
| snarlydwarf | it should be... if tw is running in a subdir, the parent directory may have something to set the include path as well | [17:17] |
| joe55 | php_info had an include path | [17:17] |
| snarlydwarf | is /var/www/foobar/tiki, if /var/www/foobar/.htaccess sets the include path, that will inherit
it should be ;include_path = ".:/usr/share/php" | [17:18] |
| joe55 | .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear | [17:18] |
| snarlydwarf | hrm, that should be fine, too php-pear installs into /usr/share/php | [17:18] |
| joe55 | that /usr/share/pear doesn't exist | [17:18] |
| snarlydwarf | yeah well it is checked last on the list | [17:19] |
| joe55 | i'm not sure where it's getting that from | [17:19] |
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| snarlydwarf | so it should look in "." and then in /usr/share/php and then find it | [17:19] |
| joe55 | there is a PEAR folder in /usr/share/php
and a PEAR.php in the folder itself | [17:19] |
| snarlydwarf | right, so including PEAR/something will work | [17:20] |
| joe55 | right | [17:20] |
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| joe55 | if i make changes to php.ini are those just picked up? | [17:20] |
| snarlydwarf | have to restart apache for those | [17:20] |
| joe55 | how do i do that?
i turned off magic quotes earlier | [17:20] |
| snarlydwarf | apachectl restart
er, apache2ctl restart or /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | [17:21] |
| joe55 | it restarted
still didn't work | [17:22] |
| snarlydwarf | very blank. no clue what it is barfing on.. :/ | [17:26] |
| joe55 | yea | [17:26] |
| WildPikachu | i love tikiwiki :) | [17:27] |
| joe55 | should i try version 1.9.11?
hmmm looking at another phpinfo it has this row: './configure' '--enable-bcmath' '--enable-calendar' '--enable-discard-path' '--enable-exif' '--enable-ftp' '--enable-gd-native-ttf' '--enable-libxml' '--enable-magic-quotes' '--enable-mbstring' '--enable-sockets' '--prefix=/usr/php4' '--with-curl=/opt/curlssl/' '--with-dom=/opt/xml2/' '--with-dom-exslt=/opt/xslt/' '--with-dom-xslt=/opt/xslt/' '--with-expat-dir=/usr'... ...'--with-freetype-dir=/usr' '--with-gd' '--with-iconv' '--with-imap=/opt/php_with_imap_client/' '--with-imap-ssl=/usr' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr' '--with-kerberos' '--with-libxml-dir=/opt/xml2/' '--with-mcrypt=/opt/libmcrypt/' '--with-mysql=/usr' '--with-mysql-sock=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-openssl-dir=/usr' '--with-png-dir=/usr' '--with-ttf' '--with-xmlrpc'... ...'--with-xpm-dir=/usr' '--with-zip=/opt/zzip/' '--with-zlib' '--with-zlib-dir=/usr' that's not in the one with tiki | [17:28] |
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| joe55 | interesting thing
I tried version 1.9.11 it said the HD was ful full turns out, it just may be... | [17:46] |
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| marclaporte | Just saw this: http://waterandstone.com/downloads/2008OpenSourceCMSMarketSurvey.pdf | [18:02] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14877 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (14 files): [FIX]plugin: values like y or n must not be translated | [18:07] |
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| ricks99 | @marc: yeah, i saw that a while ago | [18:10] |
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| snarlydwarf | marclaporte: hrrm.. dont think i like their methodology on that
my bet is that a tw site is more likely to be an 'internal' site than drupal or wordpress would be | [18:23] |
| joe55 | i'm using it external | [18:24] |
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| joe55 | it has everything i'm looking for wysiwyg editor
bug tracking forums wiki blogs :) | [18:24] |
| ricks99 | too bad "smarties" isnt listed as in print :) | [18:24] |
| joe55 | what's smarties? | [18:24] |
| snarlydwarf | heh, yeah, i just think basing "number of public sites" as a metric for usage is silly
1283908 people using wordpress for personal blogs isnt really the same thing Tikiwiki for Smarties | [18:25] |
| joe55 | oh
it was the hard drive being full i could kill our IT guy | [18:25] |
| snarlydwarf | the books thing is lame, too. I havent bought a computer book in ages, they are always out of date | [18:25] |
| ricks99 | don't know... usage is a good measure of acceptance
with books, the point is that people write books for items that are leaders. (or perceived to be leaders) | [18:26] |
| snarlydwarf | assuming the usage is an apples/oranges comparison
wordpress has a ton of personal blogs, which arent really the same thing as what a real cms does and joomla.. eww. snarlydwarf tried joomla once and cried at the bizarre permissions as in file permissions | [18:27] |
| ricks99 | maybe, but their default install *looks* slick | [18:28] |
| snarlydwarf | since it liked to write all over the place | [18:28] |
| joe55 | what's the best profile to start with? (I want bug tracking, forums, wiki, and file gallery) | [18:29] |
| snarlydwarf | does anyone still use php-nuke instead of postnuke? | [18:29] |
| ricks99 | i think its interesting what the study *did not* look at: developer community, rate of code commits, etc. | [18:29] |
| snarlydwarf | i just did default, and turn the things on that i wanted | [18:29] |
| ricks99 | support forum activity, mailing lists, etc. | [18:29] |
| snarlydwarf | its pretty mindless to turn on features in tw | [18:30] |
| joe55 | snarlydwarf: thanks (thanks for all your help today, sorry for it being a full HD causing the problem) | [18:30] |
| snarlydwarf | lol no problem.. got sidetracked by boss
just seems strange that of the projects I have had to do here, joomla and wordpress which seem to be faves there, sucked drupal5 (cough, 6 months after release and dru6 still is mising most of the really useful modules) and tw win hands down. | [18:30] |
| NefariousC | I think wordpress is pretty good. | [18:33] |
| ricks99 | dont forget, study was published by agency wpcializing in joomla, wordpress, and drupal
take it with a grain of salt | [18:34] |
| snarlydwarf | heh yeah saw that at the end
joomla is evil tho.. it pretends to make modules easy to install but then it has to ftp them to itself.. and you end up with some bizarre ownership on things. | [18:35] |
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| kerrnel | Was there a bug in trackerfilter in 2.0? | [18:37] |
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| WildPikachu | argh ... which option to set/unset not to display modification info at the bottom of wiki pages?
WildPikachu lewks | [18:53] |
| ricks99 | Admin: WIki page, List Authors option | [18:54] |
| WildPikachu | cound it :)
thanks ricks99 | [18:54] |
| ricks99 | see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+config
in 2.0, can override on page-by-page basis | [18:55] |
| WildPikachu | oooo | [18:55] |
| ricks99 | indeed | [18:56] |
| kerrnel | Anybody aware of a bug in trackerfilter in 2.0 where it wont' display anything? | [19:05] |
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| FoxBoy | Anyone here?
I need some help installing tikiwiki | [19:16] |
| ricks99 | what is the problem? | [19:17] |
| FoxBoy | I'm trying to install it on a windows home server.. Is that possible btw?
I'm running php, mysql and a forum there already Well. I guess thanks for trying ricks99. Anyone else wanna help? The problem I'm running into is this : PHP Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(C:DOCUME~1<User>LOCALS~1Tempphpsession.... Permission denied (13) | [19:18] |
| ricks99 | does tiki have write permission to that directory? | [19:24] |
| FoxBoy | Well, that's a good question. Seems like the installer wanna use the windows temp-directory. But who is the "tiki" user in question during installation? | [19:25] |
| ricks99 | you need to make sure the directory is writateble (for exampel 7-7-5 or 7-7-7
the location for storing php sessions is defined in your php.ini file | [19:26] |
| kerrnel | That doesn't apply in windows I don't think ricks | [19:26] |
| ricks99 | does on my vista pc | [19:27] |
| kerrnel | Ah, I haven't graduated to vista yet. lol I stand corrected | [19:27] |
| ricks99 | using easyphp i can set the lcoation to store the session in my php.ini | [19:27] |
| kerrnel | FoxBoy, just make sure that the directory is writeable by all | [19:27] |
| FoxBoy | I'm not sure who's the "user" on my server during installation. Isn't that "guest" as they're defined in windows? | [19:27] |
| lphuberdeau_ | try to use a shorter path... one that does not require ~
c:temp is usually good | [19:28] |
| kerrnel | FoxBoy, it might try and run as System or something. | [19:28] |
| ricks99 | ur running tiki locally on ur pc? the "user" is ur windows user | [19:28] |
| FoxBoy | Well, the problem is. I tried to alter the TMP and TEMP environment variables on the server to a directory with all rights but the installer still wanna go to c:documents and settingstemp blah blah... | [19:29] |
| ricks99 | o... windows server. my misuderstanding. | [19:29] |
| FoxBoy | Yep, windows 2003 server
Actually it's a Windows Home Server And I'm installing it from another PC on the network | [19:29] |
| ricks99 | have u seen docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation+Guides&bl=y | [19:30] |
| FoxBoy | Yep, I've read my eyes red ricks ;) | [19:31] |
| ricks99 | not sure i can help :( | [19:31] |
| FoxBoy | I'm able to start the installer and it gives me an option to create the default database. All looks good, until I press the <Install> button. Then I get a Security Alert!
The Tiki installer can be used only by the site administrator. Please enter the database credentials as a verification. If you forgot about them, they are located in 'db/local.php' | [19:33] |
| ricks99 | ah.. i *can* help... i had the same issue not to long ago
verify that the session location in your php.ini is writable | [19:34] |
| FoxBoy | The database credentials are right, and I get a warning about PHP Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(C:DOCUME~1<The username here>LOCALS~1Tempphpsessionsess_5eelm55r07fppes0rdqfd3hkt3, O_RDWR) failed: | [19:34] |
| ricks99 | yes. the directory is not writeable | [19:34] |
| FoxBoy | oh, sec ricks99 | [19:35] |
| ricks99 | look for session.save_path = | [19:36] |
| FoxBoy | Where's php.ini? | [19:37] |
| ricks99 | not sure....mine is in my server root | [19:37] |
| FoxBoy | Ok, searching | [19:38] |
| ricks99 | but u can create a new one and place it in the <tiki_install> directory. settings will cascade with no problems
you could simply redefine the session.save_path for that directory only | [19:38] |
| FoxBoy | Oh, good. thanks! | [19:38] |
| Ricks99. Lotsa kisses! you tha man ! | [19:44] | |
| ricks99 | np
send beer | [19:45] |
| FoxBoy | Sorry, I only have bacardi-cola. will that do? | [19:46] |
| ricks99 | rum is fine :) | [19:47] |
| FoxBoy | Yeah, it certainly is!
Just a "minor problem" now I can't get in ;) To begin configuring Tiki, please login as the Admin. | [19:48] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14878 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-register.tpl: [FIX]show min length for username | [19:50] |
| FoxBoy | But I am trying to do just that! And I get a Invalid username
Any ideas? | [19:50] |
| SEWilco2 | Is it "Admin" or "admin"? | [19:53] |
| FoxBoy | None of the above. to be honest I'm a bit afraid to give too much info. Where can I check for the "admin" user name?
Ok, I'll use google | [19:54] |
| ricks99 | default username: admin
default pw: admin should have been shown on the very last install screen before you clicked "enter" | [19:59] |
| FoxBoy | Well ricks99, you're right again. Can I blame the bacardi's for not reading all the info ;) | [20:01] |
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| FoxBoy | You've been a great help mate
Thanks! Congratulations This is the default HomePage for your Tiki. If you are seeing this page, your installation was successful. | [20:01] |
| ricks99 | ur in
@FoxBoy: try http://twbasics.keycontent.org | [20:03] |
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| FoxBoy | Nice page. thanks!
Now get on World of warcraft and let's do some raiding together ;) | [20:04] |
| SEWilco2 | I want to fetch a random image from an imagegal. Does it seem reasonable to extend show_image.php with options "galname" and "galid"? So http:show_image?galid=1 will return an image from imagegal 1?
Or would "dirname" and "dirid" be better? | [20:17] |
| ricks99 | can't u just use {gallery id=1} | [20:21] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99: I want to show a random image in the site banner, so it's an HTML incantation problem. | [20:22] |
| ricks99 | ahh | [20:23] |
| SEWilco2 | I'll look for the gallery plugin code to see how that works. But I'm not aware of a URL interface to plugin results.
Since show_image is our URL-to-image interface, that seemed like the place to request an image. | [20:23] |
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| snarlydwarf | hrrm i show a random image from a specific gal.. lemme look at what i did
but first, time to smack ff again for dying yeah i just used galleryId=1 as the params in the module you doing this in wiki or as a module? | [20:36] |
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| SEWilco2 | Sorry, Firefox crashed when I turned my back.
ricks99: I'm not finding a gallery plugin. Is that what {gallery} would activate? I do see lib/smarty_tiki/function.gallery.php but is {} how a Smarty function would be activated? | [20:57] |
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| goldie83 | hi, need help with tiki-map.php | [21:25] |
| ricks99 | its not a "real" plugin
it is like {toc} i believe it is defined in tikilib | [21:25] |
| goldie83 | i getting always a blank page when i open this page | [21:27] |
| snarlydwarf | SEWilco2: are you wanting it as a module or thrown into a wiki page
for a wiki page you would need to use the {MODULE} plugin | [21:28] |
| ricks99 | its not a "real" module. | [21:28] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by brian_moore :: r 14879 /trunk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): more sefurl-ing on blogs and image gals | [21:29] |
| snarlydwarf | the random image one is?
its mod-random_images.php | [21:29] |
| SEWilco2 | snarlydwarf: I'm going to code a random-gallery image URL. Just looking for code to steal... all six lines or so of code. | [21:29] |
| ricks99 | SEWilco2: it is in tikilib | [21:29] |
| snarlydwarf | look at modules/mod-random_images.php | [21:30] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99 mentioned a {gallery} so I was looking for that code. Yes, I know about random_images too. | [21:30] |
| snarlydwarf | just steal that.. it calls get_random_image in imagegallib | [21:30] |
| ricks99 | SEWilco2: see functionget_random_image in tikilib.php | [21:30] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99: Yup. And image lib's get_gallery_image(). | [21:31] |
| ricks99 | i have a q: how to use attachements with trackers with the {TRACKER} plugin? | [21:32] |
| sylvieg | use a field type attachment (see doc.tw.org) | [21:33] |
| ricks99 | ah.. im on 1.9.x :(
crap | [21:33] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99: Do you mean have TRACKER display the attachment or how to tell TRACKER which attachment?
SEWilco2 rolls snake eyes. | [21:33] |
| ricks99 | i want users to add an attachement when creating a tracker item (via the TRACKER plugin)
the attachement field looks like xactly what i need... introduced in 2.0 :( tx sylvieg | [21:34] |
| lphuberdeau_ | ricks, time to upgrade? | [21:36] |
| goldie83 | i have a fresh install of tikiwiki-2.1, installed on gentoo, got stuck on the howto from InstallMapserverTikiwikiGentoo after the configuration part... | [21:36] |
| ricks99 | y, but the site is heavily customized. we're pushing for a redsign so i want to start fresh with 2.x
design by committee == takes forever | [21:36] |
| lphuberdeau_ | maybe you should redesign for 3.0 ;) | [21:37] |
| ricks99 | lol | [21:37] |
| goldie83 | php stops in $image_url = $image->saveWebImage(); - had someone this problem? | [21:42] |
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| SEWilco2 | SEWilco2 hangs up a redsign and takes a break.
goldie83: Check if the disk is full and check permissions on where the image is being stored (file directory or database?) SEWilco2 pushes the button and lights up the red fluorescent tube on the sign. | [21:54] |
| goldie83 | disk isn't full, permissions are ok
another question should $map->drawquery something return?, its the line above $image->saveWebImage() | [21:57] |
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| SEWilco2 | goldie83: Check phpinfo -- maybe the image is larger than the PHP upload limits.
SEWilco2 kicks redsign back into corner. Should I file a tracker request to remove "Welcome to TikiWiki! - " from channel header because it's getting too long? Also shorter phrasing is "Use http://sh.nu/p for large pasting." SEWilco2 declines order to "have fun!" | [22:05] |
| goldie83 | upload_max_filesize was 2mb - changed to 64mb - nothing changed
but i didn't upload any files via php | [22:12] |
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| sylvieg | goldie83: not enough memory? | [22:29] |
| SEWilco2 | goldie83: I think there is more than one php setting which can affect image uploads.
Oh, but you didn't upload via PHP anyway. Never mind. Is the picture too naughty? if it is, we'd better take a look. Oh, the error involves WebImage() -- with a name like that I thought PHP upload might be involved. | [22:31] |
| goldie83 | heh, my apache is currenty only binded on 127.0.0.1, but i can change that fast ;) | [22:35] |
| SEWilco2 | No need to access your web site until after you succeed in uploading naughty picture. :-)
Hmm. Are you doing something with an image file or are you trying the sketched Drawing feature? (checks backscroll...) You're getting an error while trying to configure? | [22:36] |
| marclaporte | snarlydwarf: : ping | [22:39] |
| snarlydwarf | pong? | [22:39] |
| marclaporte | you said: http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2008-09-26,Fri&sel=427#l423
could this be used to make theme installs easier? for us? | [22:39] |
| snarlydwarf | i hope not
think a better way would be for setup.sh to change perms on styles directories joomla does nasty evil stuff, basically have to have the docroot in an ftp directory... and then it downloads the module, and ftps it to itself for those of us paranoid and liking chroot'd ftp's.. that means allowing an ftp user into the docroot and that user with perms to stomp on anything, just seems horribly hackish and i never did get it to work nice think making setup.sh 'open' the styles, and handling it sort of like mods are done, then setup.sh closing it, would be nicer | [22:40] |
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| kerrnel | Why not use an upload form? | [22:43] |
| lphuberdeau_ | if you're going to run a script, why not run one that installs the style altogether? | [22:44] |
| snarlydwarf | then you dont get the pretty gui selector thingie
"lemme grab 21830 themes and then play with them" | [22:44] |
| goldie83 | i have taken the tikiwiki-mapdata-0.1.tar.bz2 unpacked and configured (I hope correctly) - and hoped that the tiki-map can render it | [22:44] |
| kerrnel | Create an "add theme" thing or something, it prompts you to upload the package file, it'll do what it needs on the back-end, and put it where the files need to go | [22:44] |
| snarlydwarf | kerrnel: isnt that like how mod installs work now? | [22:45] |
| kerrnel | Or allow you to browse the packages on themes.tw.o and install from there
no | [22:45] |
| snarlydwarf | the script part i mean | [22:45] |
| kerrnel | You have to have the mod package in a particular directory
Yeah, but the mod package is real confusing | [22:45] |
| snarlydwarf | yeah but there is a script that takes the mods and dumps them in various places | [22:45] |
| kerrnel | You should be able to build a package from the website. | [22:45] |
| snarlydwarf | almost anything is better than the evilness that joomla does for it. | [22:46] |
| kerrnel | Ideally, to avoid compression and stuff, compile everything into an xml file | [22:46] |
| snarlydwarf | i would rather not even have an ftp server installed since i think it is a sucky protocol | [22:46] |
| kerrnel | agreed. seriously, use the website, that way permissions are superfluous | [22:47] |
| snarlydwarf | it basically uses ftp as a way to sudo itself | [22:47] |
| lphuberdeau_ | I don't think giving your web server access to itself makes any sense | [22:47] |
| snarlydwarf | heh, nor i. | [22:47] |
| lphuberdeau_ | can be really dangerous | [22:47] |
| snarlydwarf | especially since now if someone breaks into your site, they get an ftp password that by nature lets them scribble anywhere | [22:47] |
| kerrnel | We're trying to make it easy for people to do this. | [22:48] |
| snarlydwarf | kerrnel: agreed... tw could benefit from making themes easier to install | [22:48] |
| kerrnel | I'm sure that something can be written to parse through a theme package and make sure it's secure and not doing something bad. | [22:49] |
| snarlydwarf | just the joomla way doesnt seem any better, modules are so easy to install and it mostly sorta works with themes... | [22:49] |
| kerrnel | keep it all on the server-side. user uses a theme upload form, or browses the theme site, says install this one, and it'll process the package, check it for whatever, and if its good, it'll install it. | [22:50] |
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| goldie83 | SEWilco2: i'm trying to complete the howto on http://maps.tikiwiki.org/InstallMapserverTikiwikiGentoo but i got stuck on "open tiki-map.phtml see what happens ;)" | [22:52] |
| SEWilco2 | Oh, the Mapserver. I'm a GeoServer user and haven't tinkered with that yet.
So saveWebImage might be trying to save a map image? Does Mapserver installation require specification of a directory for such images? (looks at Maps config...) Well, that should be handled by the howto. I don't know what it's trying to do. | [22:53] |
| marclaporte | hmmm
many people don't have shell and can't run setup.sh and mods.tikiwiki.org doesn't work for everyone | [22:57] |
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| marclaporte | So I am wondering how theme installation could be easier, especially since we are supposed to reduce the number of bundled themes | [22:59] |
| goldie83 | SEWilco2: one thing i've found - was a "temp directory" on http://www.maptools.org/php_mapscript/index.phtml?page=phpmapscript-class-guide.html | [23:01] |
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| goldie83 | after that i looked into the source and my guess: the temp dir is /var/www/.../images, not a /tmp directory | [23:04] |
| snarlydwarf | marclaporte: i havent looked at the tgzs on themes.tw.o, is just untaring them in the tikiroot the way to install them? | [23:05] |
| SEWilco2 | I have no idea. | [23:05] |
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| snarlydwarf | think if thats the case, then kerrnel's method may be the best, http upload for the tgz and an untarrer that perhaps added some checks to make sure files were only in the proper styles directories
(just because I am paranoid)... for completeness, something to grab them directly from themes.tw.o might be nice like mods has but would have to make sure permissions were right on styles directories, but that is always going to be a problem have to make sure permissions are right on all the cache directories and such now | [23:07] |
| goldie83 | I will fill a bug report and see what happens. the last report to "map" was at 01-2007 ;)
SEWilco2: thanks anyway | [23:09] |
| macjaeger | hmm... 2.1 is out? i just had someone install 2.0 for me, and only have ftp-access to the site myself, no shell, no root. can i upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1 via ftp-only?
i'd hate to have to beg that guy again to do it... | [23:15] |
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| macjaeger | well, i'll have to try...
*fingers crossed, hoping* | [23:23] |
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| lphuberdeau_ | mac, yes | [23:26] |
| macjaeger | puh, thanks
I'll see in about 30 mb ... | [23:26] |
| lphuberdeau_ | there is an incremental package too | [23:26] |
| macjaeger | hmm, haven't found that on sourceforge | [23:27] |
| lphuberdeau_ | just the files that were modified for the release... takes less time to upload via FTP | [23:27] |
| macjaeger | np, bandwidth / time isn't an issue here | [23:27] |
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| macjaeger | hopefully this fixes the problems with wysiwyg editor | [23:28] |
| lphuberdeau_ | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64258&package_id=266122&release_id=628381 | [23:28] |
| macjaeger | especially adding images to a wikipage | [23:28] |
| lphuberdeau_ | tikiwiki-inc-2.0-to-2.1.tar.gz | [23:28] |
| macjaeger | ah, inc means incremental?
k, thanx might have figured that myself... :-) | [23:28] |
| lphuberdeau_ | the 2.0-to-2.1 part helps a lot | [23:29] |
| macjaeger | hehe, right
but i guess i went straight for the .zip i'm not that linux savvy | [23:30] |
| lphuberdeau_ | tar.gz works fine on windows too | [23:30] |
| macjaeger | i had my troubles with tar.gz packages of typo3 a while ago
they had symlinks included, which broke when i unzipped on windows | [23:31] |
| lphuberdeau_ | wird
weird* | [23:31] |
| macjaeger | took the better part of a weekend to find the problem, especially as i've been novice to typo3 then | [23:32] |
| SEWilco2 | Argh. I tried viewing an image URL in my browser and the text editor wanted to display the .php file. Oops. | [23:32] |
| macjaeger | hey fine, on my local install they "copy all over" worked ok
(the) | [23:33] |
| lphuberdeau_ | no database change from 2.0 to 2.1, so it's easy | [23:34] |
| macjaeger | that's good. i have to do a number of "howto ..." videos about the newly installed tikiwiki site this weekend, students hope to use the site from monday on
*emphasizes "hope"* | [23:35] |
| lphuberdeau_ | please add them to http://tikiwiki.org/TikiwikiTV | [23:36] |
| macjaeger | if you don't mind them beeing in german, | [23:36] |
| lphuberdeau_ | no problem
I guess you can create a german channel ;) | [23:37] |
| macjaeger | hehe
i'll have to sort which ones are general enough actually most of it will be about integrating the wiki in our workflow | [23:37] |
| lphuberdeau_ | that's good too | [23:38] |
| MatWho | macjaeger: If you need some help adding the videos to TikiWikiTV please let me know and I might be able to help. | [23:38] |
| lphuberdeau_ | then we'll need to get amette to do the subtitles for us | [23:38] |
| macjaeger | students are to write documentation for ther projects at school in that wiki | [23:38] |
| MatWho | macjaeger: we look forward to seeing the videos :) | [23:39] |
| macjaeger | mat, thx, i'll come back to you
actually i might bother you for a couple of days now, as i'm trying to find my way 'round tikiwiki myself :-) so... last mb uploading | [23:39] |
| MatWho | macjaeger: I realy want to help you get videos up there, both "how to" and "what we are doing with it" type video would be most welcome | [23:40] |
| macjaeger | now let's see what i've broken :-)
brb puh, seems to be ok although some settings are lost but i might have changed them myself accidently ah, translation is far better this time hmm... is this normal: clicking "browse image" in wysiwyg editor's "insert image" dialog opens the _file_ gallery? | [23:40] |
| lphuberdeau_ | no idea | [23:48] |
| macjaeger | why wouldn't it open the picture galleries? | [23:48] |
| lphuberdeau_ | probably part of a story, those who added wysiwyg are planning to merge file galleries and image galleries in the future | [23:49] |
| macjaeger | would be good to see that sometimes, but right now i'm having trouble adding images via point-n-click | [23:49] |
| MatWho | I just put the pictures in a file gallery and it worked fine | [23:50] |
| macjaeger | but that's what our students want to do...
well, ok, i'll go and disable image gals completely then too confusing to have both (for our students, ages 10 to 14) | [23:50] |
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| SEWilco2 | I added galleryId parameter to show_image.php -- because it's not a bug fix I should commit to 3.0? | [23:57] |
| macjaeger | sorry, i can't follow | [23:58] |
| SEWilco2 | show_image.php?galleryId=1 will show a representative image from the specified image gallery (random if random has been selected in gallery configuration).
macjaeger: Oh... I was not responding to your comments, I was asking the other developers about my change. | [23:59] |
| macjaeger | ah, ok | [23:59] |
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