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| marclaporte | yo | [00:01] |
| NefariousC | yoyo | [00:01] |
| marclaporte | anybody else getting weird errors upon svn checkout?
NefariousC: : I got compliments about magic today and some questions/interest about where it's going | [00:02] |
| NefariousC | marclaporte: It's lost!
What kind of questions? | [00:02] |
| marclaporte | globally, what is next step? | [00:03] |
| lph | marc, what kind of errors? | [00:03] |
| marclaporte | where is it going | [00:03] |
| NefariousC | Oh, it's going over there, in the sidebar <:
And at some point, someone is going to finish fixing up all of the labels <: And then we'll all disco dance... | [00:03] |
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| marclaporte | hehe | [00:05] |
| NefariousC | ...then I'll glue some more things on it.
But not before the disco dancing. | [00:05] |
| marclaporte | let's go to Electric Avenue to Disco | [00:05] |
| NefariousC | Wellington has a bar called Electric Avenue. I only ever walked past it. Mostly it played terrible 80's music. | [00:06] |
| lph | mostly the same here | [00:06] |
| marclaporte | http://www.clubsmontreal.com/en/
it's great music! | [00:06] |
| NefariousC | NefariousC clubs marclaporte
Oh, but aside from that, magic, I think, will form two interfaces - one for configuring, and one for finding the fricken page where you add whatever content. It should also do more with permissions. And at some point, there will be a DELETION RAMPAGE. | [00:07] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte 's foot is tapping to the beat of Sweet Dreams (Eurythmics) | [00:08] |
| NefariousC | NefariousC gets some nine inch nails and hammers marcs feet to the wall. | [00:09] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte hums "thriller" (Micheal Jackson) | [00:09] |
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| marclaporte | NefariousC: : how about a search box like in cPanel?
which filters all options with current string... | [00:11] |
| NefariousC | marclaporte: Geeze. Do I look like a genie to you? I don't think I look like a genie. And yet here you are with all these wishes. | [00:12] |
| lph | well, a search in the option name does look like the most realistic wish marc made in a long time | [00:13] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte can imagine NefariousC dressed like Jeannie from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dream_of_Jeannie | [00:17] |
| NefariousC | Between magic and the css stuff I'm doing, he might be better off with unrealistic wishes d:
I take that back. | [00:17] |
| marclaporte | be careful what you wish for! | [00:17] |
| NefariousC | Oh, indeed. Genies will Fuck You Up. | [00:18] |
| marclaporte | If I run out of ideas, I'll ask xavi to help!
lph: I didn't keep error message, now it looks ok | [00:18] |
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| lph: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=30396 | [00:44] | |
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| lph | looks like the release procedure was wrong
what problems does it cause? I could install and run 2.1 without problems actually, convertsql had to be run with an undocumented parameter... can't really blame anyone for this one | [00:49] |
| marclaporte | not blaming anyone :-)
there is no db change from 2.0 to 2.1 | [01:01] |
| Caarrie | Caarrie points at the sky and blames someone up there :P | [01:01] |
| marclaporte | so maybe just that? | [01:01] |
| lph | just inconsistencies... installer points to files that exist... that adminlib does not
however, I have no idea what that code does listing tables... could have used tiki.sql... would have been more stable or ask the db server only used in admin system probably related to that fix utf-8 thing | [01:02] |
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| marclaporte | this is an annoying regression: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1769&highlight=bibliography | [01:57] |
| chibaguy | What's the regression? | [01:59] |
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| chibaguy | chibaguy , maybe needing more coffee, just sees a feature request at that url. | [02:12] |
| marclaporte | lph: if I have a 1.9 db, and I upgrade to 3.0, I am offered automatic update, will it update to 2.x before updating to 3.0? | [02:26] |
| lph | yes | [02:27] |
| marclaporte | got blank page : http://etmis.org/3x/tiki-index.php
after automatic upgrade but maybe it's something else in the code cuase server is php4 | [02:32] |
| lph | check logs
that's it | [02:32] |
| marclaporte | error logs have: [Mon Sep 29 17:58:23 2008] [error] [client 65.94.5.76] File does not exist: /home/etmis/public_html/2.0/styles/transitions/1.9to2.1.css
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /home/etmis/public_html/3x/lib/wiki/renderlib.php on line 5 | [02:39] |
| lph | not supposed to work under PHP 4 | [02:44] |
| marclaporte | I confirm that it doesn't | [02:48] |
| lph | easy guess | [02:48] |
| marclaporte | with php5, it works
but I can't login | [02:51] |
| chibaguy | Related topic (installation 2.1) in tw.o forum: tiki-2.1-mysql.sql missing
PHP (5.2.6) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: adminlib.php Line: 403 Type: file(db/tiki-2.1-mysql.sql) function.file: failed to open stream: No such file or directory posted by a user. | [02:59] |
| I think two areas that Tiki must be really solid in are installation and user registration/login. These need to be thoroughly tested before every release IMHO. | [03:06] | |
| marclaporte | chibaguy: : a test procedure would be good
we could use tikitests to run through them at each release maybe we could find a power user to record these tests... | [03:09] |
| chibaguy | Sure, this must be a common thing to do in software development. | [03:13] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte wonders if there are any travel developments from chibaguy :-) | [03:14] |
| chibaguy | chibaguy should know in a day or two. Trying to get things worked out wrt client schedules in nov.... | [03:15] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte is going to be "defending" largest ever tikiwiki project proposal in 14hours
if we get it, you can all say goodbye to most things on the wishlist here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/editUIRevamp and workspaces too :-) | [03:15] |
| chibaguy | Sounds good. Hope the defense goes well. | [03:17] |
| marclaporte | I feel like I am back in school :-) | [03:17] |
| chibaguy | Have three main points; a clear introduction and summary.....:-)
(don't know if that's appropriate, but am recalling methodical approach used in school....) | [03:19] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14903 /trunk/styles/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] .icon class added for removal of deprecated img border="0" tag and for styling of a.icon (no border), especially in div.navbar. | [07:13] |
| SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14904 /trunk/styles/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] More specificity needed. | [07:27] | |
| luciash | polom | [07:28] |
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| chibaguy | I was looking at the classes used with links in Tiki, trying to find patterns. Any theories on this? :-)
Specifically, "linkmenu". These are mostly in the normal Tiki menus, but also for other internal navigation, like "go back" and "Home" on the error page. A useful project would be to list all the anchor tag classes and see about combining them as much as possible. I thought class="linkmenu" could be eliminated, because I thought it was always in div.option, but then found it elsewhere. :-| Still, why would menu style and links out in the page have the same class? | [07:39] |
| luciash | hmmm | [07:45] |
| chibaguy | Whenever I do a theme thing, I see linkmenu linkmodule link button2 button3 navbar etc etc and go a little crazy ;-)
I feel sorry for newcomers... | [07:45] |
| luciash | yep, in ideal world all the links would need no class at all and be styled by cascading from their parent tag class | [07:46] |
| chibaguy | true | [07:48] |
| luciash | i think repeated classes are not necessary (like the linkmenu) when they can be styled by the class or id of the menu
but then on the other places in the special cases there should be some classes kept if there's no better semantic way | [07:49] |
| chibaguy | I think so too, and probably should look more at a.linkmenu outside of the menus. | [07:50] |
| luciash | i just prefer some kind of simplicity and logic
class called "linkmenu" is not logical from mpov and is unnecessary | [07:50] |
| chibaguy | Right. I think if links have a class, it should maybe reflect the purpose or special appearance. I don't know what linkmenu means especially when not used in a menu. | [07:52] |
| luciash | chibaguy, i wish you really could come to montreal so we can discuss in person about it
;) | [07:53] |
| chibaguy | Well, I hope so. Just need to clear obligations with jobs, clients, etc. | [07:54] |
| luciash | good to hear you fight with that and don't give up ;) | [07:54] |
| chibaguy | Which fight -- job obligations, or Tiki classes? ;-) | [07:56] |
| luciash | both ;)
but i meant job obligations, yep :) | [07:56] |
| chibaguy | Ah, yeah, have to try to keep everything smooth. | [07:57] |
| luciash | btw, got my fb invitation ? | [07:57] |
| chibaguy | Yes, I did.
Thanks, i'll have to check it out. | [07:57] |
| luciash | ok :) | [07:57] |
| chibaguy | (not a member yet) | [07:57] |
| Paragtim | Hi all, In the forum editor, I'm trying to clear away some of the "Quicktags". I can't seem to find an entry that covers "Special Characters" Any ideas on how to remove the icon/option? | [07:58] |
| luciash | hi Paragtim, i wonder if it's hardcoded | [07:59] |
| Paragtim | I hope not - It has been crashing some of the test systems :( | [07:59] |
| luciash | is it only in forums ? | [08:01] |
| Paragtim | I've replaced the wiki editor with FCKeditor and it came as a bit of a shock to find the was still being used for comments and forums
As it was causing prob I thought I would try to remove it | [08:04] |
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| chibaguy | Time to commute. bbl. | [08:20] |
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| agvivino | Hi All | [11:18] |
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| agvivino1 | am I myself or myself? sigh
anyone awake? <<< new to tikiwiki - spending many late nights learning my way through it <<< is hanging out reading docs | [11:23] |
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| agvivino1 | hi Caarie not sleeping any more | [11:25] |
| lorinc | hi :) | [11:27] |
| agvivino1 | are you knowledgable about permissions in terms of categories?
<<< is about 4 days into TikiWiki | [11:28] |
| lorinc | not much actually, i don't use categs too often | [11:28] |
| agvivino1 | Hi lorinc
I've got a bunch of stuff set up that all works well except the whole part about making stuff available to some but not others etc LOL what I've got set up "should" work but we've all been there before right? | [11:28] |
| lorinc | :) | [11:30] |
| agvivino1 | what part of this fancy planet are you on? | [11:30] |
| lorinc | hungary, central europe | [11:31] |
| agvivino1 | gotcha - Oregon US (West Coast) | [11:31] |
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| lorinc | so, how are the perms setup, and how have u assigned users?
did u use global perms for categs or assign individual perms for each? | [11:35] |
| agvivino1 | I have the standard groups (admins / registered / anonymous) and I made a group called author... then
I have another group called Author I set up categ's just like the doc's Status and 5 or 6 childrens I set up Admins so that they can view and edit all and I set up Author almost the same... just cant author anything past the "Reviewed" stage and I set up Registered so that they can ONLY see approved well the part about can only see things in the approved categ works but when I log in as the user id with Author it doesn't let me see the extra stuff. the Admin user CAN see so I've been focusing on something messed up with the Author group | [11:36] |
| lorinc | could u link the page with the docs u used , plz? | [11:39] |
| agvivino1 | wiki.truecompasslending.com | [11:39] |
| lorinc | and u got two groups? author and Author?
or one is the group name, the other a user id? | [11:39] |
| agvivino1 | no... just a group of Author
I've got a user set up with my email address... | [11:40] |
| lorinc | alright, and where did u assign the perms? | [11:41] |
| agvivino1 | when I add a user it sets the default group as registered and then I add Autho | [11:41] |
| lorinc | ok, thats cool
how about the author groups right assignment? | [11:41] |
| agvivino1 | I've got a few things I did | [11:42] |
| lorinc | u have given a specific category permissions to the group? | [11:42] |
| agvivino1 | yes - but let me double check these things as you ask them...
oh also | [11:42] |
| lorinc | the group itself can have so called global permissions which apply | [11:43] |
| agvivino1 | When I set up Author it gets all of the Registered permissions inherrantly (sp?) | [11:43] |
| lorinc | and the category object can have specific rights assigned too
yes, if the author group "includes" registered group | [11:43] |
| agvivino1 | I know - the flexibility is incredible (once you get a handle on it) | [11:43] |
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| lorinc | order of checking is like this: 1. user belongs to which group? 2. which global perms has the group assigned (included) 3. check object for special perms assigned | [11:44] |
| agvivino1 | So - Author gets Registered group perms plus I added the following
tiki_p_admin_categories tiki_p_edit_categorized tiki_p_search tiki_p_view_categories tiki_p_view_categorized | [11:44] |
| lorinc | special object related perms override global group related perms
ok, thats the perms for the author group, these should be fine now check the special perms on the category objects... | [11:45] |
| agvivino1 | BTW - thanks for this help!!! | [11:46] |
| lorinc | :) | [11:46] |
| agvivino1 | So - I'm in admin categories
with a test page of "Test To Do Content" that has been added to the "To Do" Categ If I log in as my user that is Author / Registered it can not but should be able to see it. I've also DISABLED the deal in categs that says Permission to all (not just any) of an object's categories is required for access | [11:46] |
| lorinc | as anonymous i get perm denied at http://wiki.truecompasslending.com/tiki-index.php?page=Test To Do Content | [11:50] |
| agvivino1 | I'll set you up with an author access | [11:50] |
| lorinc | msg me with the details | [11:51] |
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| agvivino1 | LOL its been about 6 years since I've used mIRC cant remember how to do a private message | [11:52] |
| Sandy | hello i am having problems I created a database and downloaded the latest tiki now i need to ftp it over to my c panel | [11:52] |
| Caarrie | /msg lorinc | [11:53] |
| agvivino1 | ahhh got it
ohhh - I did a dcc hang on * /msg: insufficient parameters thats when I do a /msg lorinc | [11:53] |
| lorinc | try /msg lorinc yourmessage ;P | [11:54] |
| Sandy | hello i am having problems I created a database and downloaded the latest tiki now i need to ftp it over to my c panel how when i cant see the database in my ftp05 | [11:54] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14909 /trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14828 to 14901 | [11:54] |
| lorinc | Sandy: the database is in the database server | [11:54] |
| Paragtim | agvivino1 - Not butting in - I think Caarrie will be able to sort you out. You could also try this link. It is for a working approval system and may help get you where you want to go:-
http://www.oops-again.co.uk/tiki-index.php?page=Approval%20System&structure=001 | [11:55] |
| lorinc | Sandy: if u have all files copied to your ftp account, run tiki-install.php from your browser, and supply the details of your db connection there | [11:55] |
| Caarrie | Paragtim: i have not admin'ed a tw in over a year ;) | [11:55] |
| Sandy | can you link me to the tiki install php | [11:56] |
| agvivino1 | I'm sure its just one minor little thing not set... | [11:56] |
| Paragtim | But you where saying all the thingas i would have - which is why I stayed quiet :) | [11:56] |
| Sandy | lorinc? | [11:57] |
| lorinc | Sandy: u gotta know the url, cause u're the webmaster of your site | [11:57] |
| agvivino1 | Paragtim - I was?
or lorinc? | [11:57] |
| lorinc | Sandy: after u copy the files over to your acount, tiki-install.php will be in the root folder of your tikiwiki installation | [11:58] |
| Paragtim | agvivino1 - When you go into the permissions and do a find for categ - do you have 5 permissions showing?
sorry - wrong persons meant lorinc | [11:58] |
| Sandy | lorinc when you say copy the files over to my account what do ya mean i unzipped in a folder on my pc desktop
lorinc do you mean for me to look in that folder for a install file | [11:59] |
| agvivino1 | Paragtim - If I'm looking in the right spot... I only see 4... they are:
Can admin categs can edit items in categs can view categs Can view categed items thats for the registered group the author group gets them inherently | [12:01] |
| Sandy | lorinc? | [12:02] |
| agvivino1 | lorinc may have gotten booted
name still on list but I can't do a /msg to him? (or is it her?) | [12:03] |
| Sandy | Caarrie | [12:03] |
| Paragtim | agvivino1 - If I've read what you are trying to do correctly - You need to go into group - author - permissions. Then in the find box enter categ and press find. | [12:04] |
| Caarrie | Sandy: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Manual%20Installation&structure=TikiWiki%20for%20Smarties | [12:04] |
| Paragtim | This will give you a list of 5 categories - 4 under categores and 1 under wiki | [12:04] |
| Sandy | yes carrie the manual is great but does not help for this | [12:05] |
| Caarrie | yes it does
read it again | [12:05] |
| Paragtim | Sometimes I noticed that v2 doesn't always load all 5 into the database when you do the install | [12:06] |
| Sandy | no it doesnt carrie i'm going to get my mom to help =[ | [12:08] |
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| erwan_taf | hey folks
Just installed tikiwiki 2.1 for the first time looks very good, congrats About the calendar, I just have a question about how to set participants I've been adding "0:me 1:other" but doesn't seems to be recorded any hint/tips about that ? oh I missed the coma... | [12:12] |
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| erwan_taf | is it possible to receive an email notification when an event is processed in the calendar ? | [12:26] |
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| erwan_taf | anyone for my question ? | [12:49] |
| Sandy | I am transfering the tikiwiki files to a directory to my host but | [12:56] |
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| SEWilco | erwan_taf: I haven't looked at calendar behavior, but you might check if there is an eye symbol on calendars. The eye symbol is used for setting a "watch" on changes in wiki, but I don't know about calendars. | [13:00] |
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| erwan_taf | SEWilco: even on wiki I don't see any "eye" symbol
do I have to enable something ? or maybe I don't look at the right place | [13:05] |
| lph | I don't know much about calendars... but I think it's only a view on other objects... the other objects, like pages, tracker items and whatever can be displayed in there contain the behavior... not the calendar itself | [13:09] |
| erwan_taf | sorry, I'm new to tiki and I don't understand what you say lph | [13:09] |
| lph | happens a lot - has nothing to do with being new to tiki | [13:10] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14911 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]fgal: check function is not declared | [13:12] |
| agvivino1 | Prob Solved!!! Thank Lorinc!
Thanks all for the support! | [13:14] |
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| erwan_taf | I might use the rss.... but once it's created I don't have the right to read it
erwan_taf have a permission denied from his news reader | [13:16] |
| luciash | what parameters we can use for {icon ...} smarty modifier
? | [13:20] |
| erwan_taf | erwan_taf is kinda lost.. | [13:21] |
| luciash | i'd like to replace this in the code: <img src="pics/icons/lock.png" alt="{tr}Locked{/tr}" title="{tr}locked by{/tr} {page_user}" />
lph ? | [13:21] |
| lph | uh... do it? | [13:22] |
| luciash | can i build alt and title using params for the icon ?
is there a wiki page describing what is available as params for the smarty modifier ? er, sorry if it was nyloth who wrote the {icon} ? | [13:22] |
| lph | I know I didn't
but generally, the smarty stuff is documented in the file | [13:24] |
| sylvieg | yes if you add param without _ they will be added directly | [13:24] |
| luciash | sylvieg: ah, nice | [13:25] |
| sylvieg | {icon alt="fff" } | [13:25] |
| luciash | lph: what file ? | [13:25] |
| lph | the file defining the icon thing... should be in lib/smarty_tiki/ | [13:25] |
| luciash | sylvieg: how to put alt="{tr}Locked{/tr}" there ?
lph: thx | [13:25] |
| lph | try alt='Locked'|tra
or @tra... never knew | [13:26] |
| sylvieg | {icon _id='cross' alt='{tr}Remove Image{/tr}'} | [13:26] |
| luciash | lph: ah, cool | [13:26] |
| lph | blocks within blocks sounds weird to be...
me* | [13:27] |
| luciash | sylvieg: oh, can i use smarty tr inside smarty modifier ? wow | [13:27] |
| lph | like <img alt="<b>Hello</b>"/> | [13:27] |
| luciash | luciash is wondering too
i'll try your sugestions, thanks both ;) | [13:27] |
| erwan_taf | erwan_taf needs help | [13:32] |
| luciash | sylvieg: {tr}{/tr} works but not the page_user | [13:33] |
| erwan_taf | I really don't understand how to generate emails based on events and/or how to make it possible to read the rss calendar feed from a usual rss reader | [13:33] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14914 /trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] : we may have more than 5 tabs... but maybe 50 is out of reach... This fix pb of pages where more than five tabs are present and you go on the sixth and save the page then you have an almost blank page :( | [13:34] |
| luciash | sylvieg: ah, got it ! i have to use double quotes and page_user without double brackets | [13:36] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14915 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): move pluginFiles to trunk to update to new file display | [13:38] |
| erwan_taf | erwan_taf become crazy
nobody can help me ? | [13:46] |
| sylvieg | as written at the top - just ask - don't ask to ask | [13:50] |
| lph | did you look through the doc and tiki for smarties? | [13:50] |
| sylvieg | ah .. perm on rss? | [13:51] |
| erwan_taf | lph: since 4h yes
sylvieg: I've been asking many times | [13:52] |
| lph | lph: sorry.. can't help you more, all I would know about this is in the doc
erwan: that would be | [13:53] |
| erwan_taf | :) | [13:53] |
| lph | talking to myself is bad | [13:53] |
| sylvieg | each rss has a perm for isntance a rss calendar you need tiki_p_view_calendars | [13:55] |
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| erwan_taf | sylvieg: ok for the rss
sylvieg: any idea for sending an email when an event is posted/updated ? because when using rss, its kind of difficult to know an entry had changed :/ | [14:14] |
| sylvieg | I do not think there is a watch on calendar...
there is a watch on actegory... | [14:21] |
| erwan_taf | :/ | [14:22] |
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| erwan_taf | so I will have to think about another product :/ | [14:27] |
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| Jennifer | hello i am using C panel and i am having trouble executing the tiki install php file can anyone help = [ | [14:30] |
| ricks99 | should be as simple as going to ..../tiki-install.php with a web browser | [14:30] |
| Jennifer | yes i have been told that but i dont really understand
can yo uexplain | [14:31] |
| ricks99 | yes. did you copy (ftp) all the files to you web host? | [14:32] |
| Jennifer | i did | [14:32] |
| ricks99 | did you create a database on your host? | [14:32] |
| Jennifer | i did | [14:32] |
| ricks99 | open a web browser to wherever you ftped the files (for example: www.yourhost.com/tiki/tiki-install.php)
see her for a quick tutorial: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Configuring%20DB%20Connection&structure=TikiWiki%20for%20Smarties | [14:33] |
| Jennifer | do you mean open the directory where i can view these in my cpanel? | [14:33] |
| ricks99 | no. from a web browser
you don't need cpanel to run the installer. just a regular web browser | [14:34] |
| Jennifer | what exactly would i put in the browser | [14:34] |
| ricks99 | where did u ftp the files? | [14:34] |
| Jennifer | ok yes i am studying the manual but cant get to that screen
in a new directory that i named tiki | [14:34] |
| ricks99 | ok. then open a web browser to that directory. http://www.yourdomain.com/tiki/tiki-install.php | [14:35] |
| Jennifer | ok 1 sec rick
address not found rick what does that mean | [14:35] |
| ricks99 | what is your domain?
after ftping the files, does your web host require some special action to make the files "live"? | [14:36] |
| Jennifer | ok i c give me 1 sec rick
www.reviewnreport.com rick | [14:38] |
| ricks99 | are you sure the directory is "tiki" directly in the root? | [14:40] |
| Jennifer | i must of done something wrong | [14:41] |
| ricks99 | does your webhost require some special action to "publish" the tiki directory? | [14:41] |
| Jennifer | it has to be directly in the root? | [14:41] |
| ricks99 | no. it can be anywhere. in what directory did you put the "tiki" folder? | [14:42] |
| Jennifer | it actually doe not have a name all i see is a pic of a house | [14:43] |
| ricks99 | you need to know the URL of the directory. | [14:44] |
| Jennifer | ok does it need to be in public directory? | [14:44] |
| ricks99 | it needs to be publically availalbe | [14:45] |
| Jennifer | ok i got to fool around with it but on right track ty rick =] | [14:48] |
| marclaporte | erwan_taf: : this is not a product. It is a software project managed by volunteers. If you want at a product with a warranty, I suggest you get a toaster
:-) | [14:49] |
| erwan_taf | marclaporte: I know what's an OSS project thx
I'm participing in many but in that case, tikiwiki doesn't match my need ... I can understand that this feature doesn't exist I said ":/" because I had a good feeling with it but I have to change to something else | [14:50] |
| marclaporte | hehe | [14:51] |
| lph | lph thinks the new icon for edit plugin icon is a great idea | [14:51] |
| marclaporte | well, one thing that always fascinating is that it doesn't matter how many features we have, people always want more | [14:52] |
| lph | erwan, want commit access to add the missing feature? | [14:52] |
| erwan_taf | lph: I don't have any web skill and to be honnest, web dev always drive me mad ;)
erwan_taf prefer C code | [14:52] |
| ricks99 | web skills not necessary. ricks99 == case in point :) | [14:53] |
| marclaporte | erwan_taf: : maybe whatever you can change to will have this specific thing you are missing in tiki but will be lacking something else | [14:54] |
| erwan_taf | erwan_taf wonder how much web/tikiwiki knowledge its necessary to assimilate to be able to propose a good patch | [14:55] |
| marclaporte | erwan_taf: : the code to watch stuff aleady exists for wiki pages, articles, etc
and the calendar already exists | [14:56] |
| lph | we don't really accept patch proposals... it's more about patching and asking questions later | [14:56] |
| erwan_taf | uh | [14:57] |
| marclaporte | http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access | [14:57] |
| erwan_taf | hum
looks like calendar already have a watch() function that sends mails... | [14:58] |
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| marclaporte | erwan_taf: : over 200 people have added code. With C knowledge, you'll be fine | [15:00] |
| ricks99 | speaking of watches... im trying to figure out a way to let "anonymous" visitors watch pages.....
tiki allows anonymous to subscribe to newsletters. any way to extend that type of funtionality to watches? | [15:01] |
| erwan_taf | code says :
if ($prefs['feature_user_watches'] == 'y') { but I can't see any feature_user_watches | [15:03] |
| ricks99 | enable user watches on the "user" tab in admin: features
*rick scrolls back.... calendar already has wa "watch" feature. | [15:04] |
| marclaporte | ricks99: talk to Nelson, he working with support.mozilla.com for this | [15:06] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: enabled | [15:06] |
| marclaporte | I have tiki-calendar.php?watch_event=calendar_changed&watch_action=remove on my 2.1 calendar | [15:07] |
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| ricks99 | @erwan_taf: should now have a EYE icon (for registered users) when viewing a calendar | [15:08] |
| erwan_taf | see that
great | [15:08] |
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| ricks99 | @marclaporte: is there a list of future features being driven by mozilla?
would b nice to see 'what's in store' | [15:09] |
| lph | ricks, they have their own svn... little bit of lag for things to get backported
they have a few UI improvements that are too specific to be shared back and performance tuning (which may break some features they don't use, but testing is required) | [15:10] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: I receive emails but only for one attendee | [15:12] |
| ricks99 | i saw some requests (wrt layout of registration page) and i implemented some stuff in truck (pw strength checker, etc) | [15:12] |
| sylvieg | where do you see the watch icon in calendar ... I do not have one... | [15:13] |
| ricks99 | @erwan_taf: each person "watching" the calendar should get a notification | [15:13] |
| sylvieg | ah got it you need to have only one calendar dispalyed
messy interface.... | [15:13] |
| ricks99 | @ sylvieg: y. need a calendar b4 u can watch :) | [15:13] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: i'm trying to figure out why it doesn't ;) | [15:13] |
| ricks99 | if "you" enter the event, "you" will not get a notification
tiki = messy interface :) | [15:14] |
| erwan_taf | I can understand that
I tried both from user a to b and from b to a | [15:14] |
| marclaporte | ricks99 : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Performance | [15:14] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg thinks we need a list calendar with a watch for each calendar - hopes nyloth will do a great job | [15:15] |
| ricks99 | and a w "watch by calendar category,location etc."
would be gr8 to get notifications for all events of "type Foo" in lcoation "Bar" gee... how about geotagging calendar events :) | [15:15] |
| marclaporte | ricks99: I am almost sure I will have a budget to refactor quicktags. If you have stuff you want, now is the time | [15:21] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: I can't figure why my other user doesn't receive anything | [15:23] |
| ricks99 | valid email?
@marc: would be nice to have the quicktagstags stored *once* in db, then referenced for each feature instead of being stored once per feature. makes maintenance a nightmare and quicktags *should not* be overwritten on an upgrade :( | [15:24] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: it is | [15:25] |
| ricks99 | check ur mail log? was the the mail actually generated? | [15:25] |
| sylvieg | ricks99: +1 for the feature wiki only - must discuss with amette (I think it is him that did that) I was against | [15:26] |
| ricks99 | wiki only? | [15:27] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: which logs ? | [15:27] |
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| ricks99 | tiki log. and mail log | [15:27] |
| erwan_taf | sorry... where is tiki log ? | [15:28] |
| ricks99 | main menu. Admin > Tiki Logs | [15:29] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14918 /trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX] use remove icon instead of delete (too confusing to have two identical icons for different purposes) | [15:29] |
| erwan_taf | ricks99: I see the summary, how can I get more details ?
I can't click on them | [15:31] |
| ricks99 | not sure | [15:32] |
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| erwan_taf | ricks99: it works
I created a new account and everything is ok thx a lot ricks99 | [15:36] |
| ricks99 | :0 my pleasure | [15:36] |
| erwan_taf | I was about to miss the feature I was looking for | [15:36] |
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| Jennifer | hey rick is there a possiblity that there is a setting i need to change because it does not come up in my browser =[ | [15:45] |
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| ricks99 | will need to check with your host on how to make a file "live" | [15:45] |
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| Jennifer | ok ty | [15:48] |
| marclaporte | ricks99: : please add those thoughts to the wiki page | [15:50] |
| Jennifer | hey rick they wont help me i have veruy bad host support =[ | [15:59] |
| ricks99 | hm...
in your control panel. do you have a "www" or "public" folder maybe? the issue is the tiki folder that you created is not publically available who is ur host? | [16:00] |
| Jennifer | mochahost
i put it in my public html file they keep saying that it is a 3rd party issue i keep saying it is c panel i put it all in the browser no luck what could i be doing wrong? | [16:01] |
| ricks99 | when you ftped the files. what was the *exact* url u used? | [16:02] |
| Jennifer | www.mydomain/public_html /tiki/tiki-index.php
i dont know i am gonna have to look dont wanna waste anymore of your time you guys are really cool and i am sure i will have more questions =] | [16:04] |
| ricks99 | i dont know. but now i get a sever error at: http://www.reviewnreport.com/tiki/tiki-index.php
need to ask your host "what do i need to do to make the folder that I uploaded in ../public_html/tiki/.... publiclly available" | [16:06] |
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| Jennifer | yea i am not giving you all info rick for privacy reasons its cool i'll screw around with it thanks so much =] | [16:08] |
| ricks99 | good luck
its really shouldn't be this hard :( | [16:08] |
| in 2.0 svn... there's no 2.0 to 2.2 upgrade script? | [16:16] | |
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| lph | still uses 1.9to2.0, but really, there are no changes to the DB since 2.0
this is all gone from 3.0 anyway | [16:37] |
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| SEWilco2 | Good. I accidentally upgraded one site to 3.0 yesterday from 1.9.11. Then 1.9.11 couldn't use the DB, but 2.1 could. | [16:46] |
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| SEWilco2 | Which was fine. I was trying to upgrade to 2.1, so all OK now. | [16:46] |
| lph | 3.0 DB is not too different from 2.x... few additional tables, but nothing major | [16:48] |
| Jennifer | hey rick
when i click on that tiki install file it gives me this address | [16:49] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14919 /branches/2.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Switch editor mode: fixes markup parsing when switching to and from WYSIWYG Keeps edits, works on smilies, plugins, tables, images, headings etc Tested well on trunk now so committing (slightly modified) here in case 2.2 is released | [17:19] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14920 /branches/2.0/lib/overlib.js: [FIX] Renamed overLIB's windowWidth function to olWindowWidth to avoid conflict with PHP Layers Menu windowWidth variable. (overLIB was last updated in 2005 but have contacted the author - no response) | [17:26] |
| snarlydwarf | ugh, a cow-orker has some evil windows "monitoring" thingie
and it is making a siren sound | [17:27] |
| sylvieg | I do not like this big back port in 2.0 .... I got 6 conflits for the last merge I did... | [17:28] |
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| lph | I agree with sylvieg on this one | [17:43] |
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| lph | merges also become harder as trunk evolves | [17:44] |
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| SEWilco2 | I'm not understanding why a batch upload is failing, and insert_file() only returns FALSE with no details.
Is there a logging tool which I could use to emit details of a processing failure? | [18:12] |
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| macjaeger | of course you checked the permissions, filesize and df? | [18:13] |
| SEWilco2 | File is public read, directory is public rw, filesize 61K, 31 GB available.
Is there a logging function which can be used to log such failures? I'm aware of a user login/logout log, but not an activity log. | [18:15] |
| macjaeger | as i said: of course you did :-)
this is apache upload? is the error specific to that file, or general? | [18:15] |
| SEWilco2 | Batch upload. File is in the server, using batch screen. | [18:16] |
| macjaeger | you might want to check the apache logs | [18:17] |
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| SEWilco2 | I loaded in several dozen other files OK. Had to tinker with this one's name because it started with ".NET" on a Unix filesystem. | [18:17] |
| macjaeger | hehe | [18:17] |
| lph | sylvieg, just made a quick merge... basically no changes, but at least we won't get those huge conflicts caused by the backport next time around | [18:17] |
| macjaeger | maybe it's already there, you just don't see it? .* files are hidden in linux | [18:18] |
| SEWilco2 | Yeah, I'll check the Apache logs. But I was hoping there already was an application log which I could use to enhance that function's reporting.
No, the file was not visible for earlier upload. And the filename now starts with "_NET". | [18:18] |
| macjaeger | sorry, no else idea | [18:19] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14921 /trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14901 to 14920 | [18:19] |
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| macjaeger | *sigh*
why always me? i've just been told, that i have to present our tikiwiki to students tomorrow ... in a room without internet connection! is there such thing as a standalone tikiwiki-package? or will i have to setup some local wamp myself? | [18:35] |
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| luciash | macjaeger: checkout the tiki live cd
http://tikiwiki.org/TikiLiveCD | [18:43] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by luciash :: r 14922 /branches/2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] allow display page title when breadcrumbs are on, display location prefix in center column too when switched on, display the location bar with breadcrumbs only once, better to highlight the current page in breadcrumbs by strong than h1, ... | [18:44] |
| macjaeger | thanks for the tipp, but i need to present _our live installation_
is it possible to copy that to the live-cd? ah, the pages sent me to usbtiki :-) maybe that's exactly what i'm looking for :-) | [18:44] |
| luciash | macjaeger: i think you'll have to cook your own "live cd" then :) | [18:47] |
| macjaeger | well, i'll try that after i tried a portable wamp
thanks for your input | [18:48] |
| luciash | i think you can boot the live cd image, then import your mysql db dump and then save the changes
np, yaw | [18:49] |
| macjaeger | i really don't know what they've been thinking up there ... set me up to present our new tikiwiki to a large group of students, and just told me (by fax!) that they had to move the presentation from the it-lab to the main hall, which is great (it means that there will be about 200 students, i'll get to wear a wireless headset mikro!), but which i also know to have no internet connections, neither wired nor wifi
and that presentation is in about 13 hours from now... i guess they think they're doing me a big favor, speaking to an audience that large... *g* | [18:52] |
| luciash | ouch :-/
i hope you'll figure that out quickly and with great success | [18:55] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by luciash :: r 14923 /branches/2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] added missing site location bar + little padding fix | [18:55] |
| macjaeger | i'm sure i'll come up wiht something... i even considered homeplug for a moment | [18:56] |
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| macjaeger | right now i'm running a backup of my live site | [18:56] |
| ..... (idle for 20mn) | ||
| WOW
now that was fun! i just downloaded MoWeS, a portable wamp i copied database and httpdocs created database user and it's up and running! 25 minutes most of which was download time :-) oh. k. no. wysiwyg editor isn't working asking for toolbar "tiki" damn | [19:16] | |
| philippeback | what is the relationship between BitWeaver and Tiki ? sylvieg, I see this on your site too. | [19:27] |
| luciash | philippeback: it's fork of Tiki which evolved on its own then
macjaeger: damn, but is it on 2.1 ? | [19:29] |
| macjaeger | jepp
CustomConfigurationsPath=http://localhost/setup_fckeditor.php i guess that's the problem the in path it doesn't load the config thus uses default 'tiki' instead of whatever | [19:30] |
| luciash | ah, try to remove the "" | [19:31] |
| macjaeger | how?
that's in the generated pagesource don't know where that's built | [19:31] |
| luciash | where did u got the CustomConfigurationsPath= ?
ah | [19:31] |
| macjaeger | in linux, there's no at that point | [19:32] |
| luciash | sure | [19:32] |
| philippeback | thx luciash | [19:32] |
| Caarrie | i bet a windoze user coded that ;) | [19:32] |
| macjaeger | i bet _no_ windows user coded that | [19:33] |
| Caarrie | hehe | [19:33] |
| luciash | i bet windoze add that there themselves in da path | [19:33] |
| macjaeger | more likely, yes :-) | [19:33] |
| Caarrie | hosted on windoze ? | [19:33] |
| macjaeger | it's like windows can't live without backslashes...
running on win, yes, not hosted though using it only local | [19:33] |
| Caarrie | ok
i did not know that part ;) | [19:34] |
| luciash | if you'd ran it on da usb flash disk that would be solution ;) | [19:34] |
| macjaeger | would it?
i'd have to run it from windows still | [19:34] |
| Caarrie | do a linux live cd type thingy
with firefox | [19:34] |
| macjaeger | maybe i will, for the pres tomorrow
but that problem is discussed in bugs tracker i guess some other people might want it to get solved too :-) any idea what particular part of code creates that line? | [19:35] |
| Caarrie | if they did would it still be a bug? ;) :P | [19:37] |
| macjaeger | sure
dead one, though | [19:37] |
| Caarrie | hehe | [19:37] |
| macjaeger | but what would you expect? | [19:38] |
| Caarrie | Caarrie has no idea | [19:38] |
| macjaeger | leaving the windows open, of course you'll have bugs in the house | [19:38] |
| Caarrie | :P | [19:38] |
| macjaeger | does anyone know if lib/fckeditor/editor/_source/fckconfig.js is acutally used? | [19:41] |
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| luciash | macjaeger: it would because on the flash disk would the linux ran ;) | [19:41] |
| macjaeger | or is it only there for reference?
i share your appreciation of linux, folks, but i have to run this one on windows tomorrow | [19:41] |
| luciash | grep for it ;) | [19:42] |
| macjaeger | i'll be sharing the presentation laptop with other teachers | [19:42] |
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| luciash | ah, you have to _proof_ that it runs on windoze ? | [19:42] |
| macjaeger | most of them will use powerpoint presentations
no, it's only that one time presentation the live site of course runs on linux server :-) | [19:42] |
| luciash | hmm, you can run pp presentations in openoffice too ;) | [19:43] |
| macjaeger | _i_ can | [19:43] |
| luciash | heheh | [19:43] |
| macjaeger | but _i_ am the guest in that case
i have to use whatever windows box they setup for me well, i guess i'll be carrying my own laptop ... just in case | [19:43] |
| luciash | do you think they would look weird at you if you reboot their laptop to livecd/flashdisk ? | [19:46] |
| Caarrie | they might | [19:46] |
| luciash | :) | [19:46] |
| macjaeger | maybe i'll just run a pre-recorded screen-capture
*g* | [19:47] |
| luciash | carrying your own laptop is the best solution i think
LOL | [19:47] |
| macjaeger | yeah, i'll give myself another hour to track down that bugger | [19:47] |
| luciash | that's the safest idea ;) | [19:47] |
| macjaeger | than i'll go for other options | [19:48] |
| luciash | the problem is if you got time to record it still ;) | [19:48] |
| macjaeger | recording a movie is indeed fine idea... i'd not even need to be there tomorrow!
wait no i have to i _must_ for once use that headset mike :-) | [19:48] |
| luciash | *g* | [19:48] |
| philippeback | VMware player
is a good option | [19:48] |
| macjaeger | doesn't run without install, i guess | [19:49] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14924 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : added back plugin. | [19:49] |
| macjaeger | i have about 5 mins of time between presentations | [19:49] |
| lph | philippeback: that plugin you just added seems overly complex to me... why generate javascript to write the link? | [19:49] |
| luciash | a fix ? | [19:50] |
| lph | philippeback: also missing the _info function | [19:51] |
| philippeback | because of <ja<x>vascript/>
security filter in wiki pages. | [19:52] |
| lph | that does not explain it | [19:53] |
| philippeback | JS plugin doesn't allows it. The security thing broke the old back plugin of marclaporte | [19:53] |
| lph | right, but this one does not need to write javascript to write a link... it can just write a link | [19:53] |
| philippeback | see w/ marclaporte
no, not to go back to the previous page like that try it on 2.x will not work | [19:53] |
| lph | hum... still does not answer my question... I know what plugins can do, and I don't see why you use javascript inside that plugin to write a link calling javascript | [19:56] |
| philippeback | make a link that does it in wiki text and tell me how then. Asked sylvieg about that but {JS()} was not cutting it even with external files.
you cannot write javascript: in wikitext, it becomes ja<x>vascript: hence the plugin. | [19:58] |
| lph | not fighting against the plugin, it's about the implementation | [19:58] |
| macjaeger | hehe | [19:59] |
| philippeback | no issue. Is this okay for the info_
function wikiplugin_back_info() { return array( 'name' => tra('Back'), 'description' => tra('Displays a link that allows to go back in the prowser history') ); } | [19:59] |
| macjaeger | sort of did my own workaround | [19:59] |
| philippeback | or do I need a parms empty array as well (there are not parms)
how ? because almost all sites do need this | [19:59] |
| lph | why not just return '<a href="javascript:history.go(-1)">' . tra('Back') . '</a>'; | [19:59] |
| philippeback | (well, my customer does)
yes | [19:59] |
| macjaeger | (i just added a toolbarset called "Tiki" that copies the "Default" toolbarset...) | [20:00] |
| lph | just {back} will parse in the page | [20:00] |
| philippeback | you mean {BACK()/} or {back} like in a smarty func ? | [20:00] |
| lph | look at other plugins... missing prefs as well | [20:00] |
| philippeback | are all of these always required ? | [20:01] |
| lph | yeah... {BACK()}{BACK} {BACK()/} and {back} now all do the same
well, they are not required as enforced by code, but adding a pref for the plugin allows people to disable it if they don't want it | [20:01] |
| philippeback | ok
function wikiplugin_back_info() { return array( 'name' => tra('Back'), 'description' => tra('Displays a link that allows to go back in the prowser history'), 'prefs' => array( 'wikiplugin_back' ), 'body' => tra('empty'), 'params' => array(), ); } | [20:03] |
| lph | hum... don,t paste code here | [20:04] |
| philippeback | ok | [20:04] |
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| philippeback | sorry | [20:04] |
| lph | you can remove the body line... that ones acts differently when present | [20:04] |
| Caarrie | "Don't paste code/errors here, use http://sh.nu/p" << channel topic | [20:04] |
| philippeback | thx Caarie
body gone | [20:04] |
| lph | then you need to add the pref in lib/setup/prefs.php and add it to magic from db/features.csv | [20:05] |
| luciash | philippeback: s/prowser/browser/ | [20:06] |
| philippeback | s//done
from HelloWorld page, it says 2 functions only. but okay let's have a look there | [20:06] |
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| lph | feel free to update the doc... this is new stuff in 3.0 and it's hard to find all the places that mention plugins | [20:08] |
| luciash | philippeback: did you built the js back link because you didn't want to render it at all for browsers with js off ? | [20:08] |
| philippeback | IMHO it's okay to do so.
otherwise, a breadcrumb would be needed. | [20:09] |
| luciash | i'm just asking why you used js to build the link | [20:09] |
| lph | luciash: awww... you just spoiled the fun there... I wanted to see if it was on purpose | [20:10] |
| luciash | lph: LOL, sorry :)
i was wondering if it was on purpose too | [20:10] |
| philippeback | the thing is that I do need the feature for a customer site. I asked with marclaporte and he had such a thing. Told me it would be good to have this back.
I don't care BTW so any better idea to do the same thing ? tell me. since his thing broke on 2.x | [20:11] |
| macjaeger | ha!
chakalaka! fixed it. *dancing* | [20:12] |
| philippeback | what to add to db/features.csv ? (I mean values) | [20:14] |
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| philippeback | Is this close enough: 1031,"Redirect",913,,"wikiplugin_redirect","flag",,"tiki_p_admin",,,,,," " ? | [20:15] |
| luciash | philippeback: for sure there could be better and better ideas but i think it's good thing that you start and then it can be improved... best would be when JS is off to render regular link to page back from the referrer and so on, but i guess it would be over-complicated then for you
macjaeger: congrats :) | [20:16] |
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| philippeback | REFERER good idea but with the referer thingies in FF it will not cut it much.
like spoofing toolbar So xxxx,"Back",913,,"wikiplugin_back","flag",,"tiki_p_admin",,,,,," " is ok ? 913 seems to be the parent of plugins. Is it ? | [20:17] |
| luciash | no idea, it's new to me also | [20:19] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14925 /trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_help.tpl: [ENH] Display short syntax when plugin has no body | [20:19] |
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| lphuberdeau | philippeback: looks OK (don't know if my last message went through)
I keep getting timed out on wifi... annoying | [20:26] |
| Caarrie | Caarrie handss lphuberdeau a cat 5 cable
*hands | [20:26] |
| philippeback | I see what you meant with the document.write. Removed it. | [20:27] |
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| philippeback | leftover from experiments with the {JS()/} thing | [20:27] |
| lphuberdeau | I would have that at home, but then I would have no one making food and serving coffee for me | [20:28] |
| Caarrie | hehe
you mean tw cant do that? :( | [20:28] |
| lphuberdeau | I guess I could set it to order food for me every day | [20:29] |
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| Caarrie | hehe | [20:29] |
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| philippeback | after {drink()/}, {food()/} | [20:30] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14926 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : removed useless document.write() | [20:33] |
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| lphuberdeau | your last commit broke it... extra backslashes
I think I know why the network is so unreliable... two networks have the name name and have about the same strenght... keeps switching from one to the other | [20:37] |
| Caarrie | :( | [20:38] |
| lphuberdeau | seems like too much network has downsides | [20:38] |
| SEWilco2 | You need aluminum foil around one antenna? | [20:38] |
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| SEWilco2 | (not touching antenna -- shield one in your direction. Maybe copper sheet would work better.) | [20:39] |
| lphuberdeau | I don't even know where the antena is in this laptop | [20:40] |
| Caarrie | hidden ;) | [20:40] |
| lphuberdeau | had it for over 3 years | [20:40] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14927 /trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] : added wikiplugin_back pref | [20:40] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14928 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : corrected issue. | [20:44] |
| philippeback | lph, what to put in the CSV file ? | [20:45] |
| Norrin_Rrr | Hi, when the galleries are stored in the database, and u want to transfer the files to an external directory, is it enough to just set the option in the gallery admin screen to make the files stored in an external directory ? will the existing files be automatically transfered to the new directory ? | [20:45] |
| lphuberdeau | philippeback: there is a problem with the tra() part... tra is a PHP function... not something part of a string
as for the CVS file, you had it right but basically, you can just copy the last line (which is a plugin), change the values and increment the ID in the begining | [20:46] |
| SEWilco2 | "User tasks" are shareable to members of groups. I'm seeing no groups listed and no way to create such groups. I'm an admin, but I don't see an Admin group listed so don't know what kind of "group" this is. | [20:47] |
| Norrin_Rrr | It seems that only the new added files on the gallery are uploaded in the external dir, but the ones that were previously stored in the database stay in the database. How to move them ? | [20:47] |
| philippeback | yeah, ok
too tired, will fix this and then call it a day. | [20:48] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14929 /trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] : added entry for wikiplugin_back | [20:51] |
| macjaeger | Norrin_Rrr, isn't there a button to do just that? | [20:52] |
| Norrin_Rrr | macjaeger, i am in the admin screen for the galleries but i just can set the new external directory, i am searching the magic button, yes. :) | [20:53] |
| macjaeger | i thought, i saw one once while configuring | [20:53] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14930 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : used tra() properly. | [20:53] |
| macjaeger | me too right now | [20:53] |
| philippeback | should be ok now with this damn plugin | [20:53] |
| macjaeger | hmm
there is that very button, but only for image galleries can't see why it shouldn't be there for file gals too :-( | [20:55] |
| Norrin_Rrr | macjaeger, you are right i found it for the images gals | [20:56] |
| macjaeger | sorry, i only vaguely remembered. obviously there is no button for file gals... | [20:57] |
| Norrin_Rrr | macjaeger, it seems that the "deplace" thing in the image gals allow moving other galleries as well
let me try | [20:58] |
| macjaeger | let me know what you find :) | [20:58] |
| SEWilco2 | If the magic button doesn't appear in Admin>FileGals, try Admin>General. | [21:02] |
| Norrin_Rrr | macjaeger, unfortunatly it is limited to all the image galleries, fought one instant that the choice "all galleries" applied to the other non-image galleries, not. | [21:02] |
| macjaeger | don't fight it, pal :-) | [21:03] |
| Norrin_Rrr | (i thought one instant....) | [21:03] |
| macjaeger | ^^ | [21:03] |
| Norrin_Rrr | sorry for my confusion
:) | [21:03] |
| macjaeger | not at all, made me smile
i can do with a little laugh atm ten hours to go | [21:03] |
| Norrin_Rrr | well, nothing in Admin->General
so i'am stuck | [21:07] |
| philippeback | done with this plugin. added some doc to the helloworld page on plugins about info(). Done for the day. At least I now have the SVN thing done and decent understanding on how to document a plugin :-) | [21:11] |
| SEWilco2 | The next new plugin dev will be the judge of your documentation. :-) | [21:12] |
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| philippeback | arf | [21:14] |
| Caarrie | arf is for dogs ;)
:P | [21:14] |
| philippeback | well, he will at least not be burned for not having put an info function and a prefs entry ;-)
aft :p need a walk :-) | [21:15] |
| Caarrie | the dog? :P | [21:16] |
| philippeback | me too
see you next time. about midnight here. | [21:16] |
| macjaeger | ok, lets summarize:
it took me 25 minutes to find, download and setup a local version of my tikiwiki site it took me about an hour to fix the windows backslash bug it took me another two hours to prepare the presentation tomorrow not windows tells me it will take another 48 minutes to copy the whole damn thing to usb makes more than four hours work plus the 45 minutes presentation tomorrow for 0€ i guess i must be silly to do that work :-/ (btw: now windows thinks it will take 255 minutes...) | [21:18] |
| Caarrie | :O | [21:21] |
| macjaeger | i guess, i better grab some coke and cry myself to sleep
cu tomorrow thanks for listening :-) | [21:21] |
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| Caarrie | Caarrie did some reading but is not sure how much listening she did | [21:24] |
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| SEWilco2 | info.tw.o says CMS award nominations close in October, but they closed August 25. Needs updating now. September 1-October 20 is voting. http://www.packtpub.com/award_timeline
ricks99: Maybe you're the "Rick" who posted the CMS award article. | [21:49] |
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| sylvieg | lphuberdeau_: is there a way to access the admin plugins without a link like tiki-magic.php?featurechain=/1/2/913 - I would like to add it in the menu as it is the only magic non duplicated page
why tiki-magic.php gives has nothing to activate.. | [22:00] |
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| Norrin_Rrr | sylvieg, bonsoir :) I would like to thank you (and the others for their work too) for the new 2.x release. I have the impression that a lot of little details have improved, and specially that some of my remarks have been noted and adressed. | [22:17] |
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| sylvieg | thx Norrin_Rrr :-) But I can not accept - it is a collaborative work - we are all in the same boat
a lot of people work hard - thank to all of them | [22:18] |
| Norrin_Rrr | Yes this chan is very nice, i have to admit
Yes big thanks to everyone for this significant improvement. may be half of our mods are obsolete because the admin screen allow to adress the issues directly | [22:20] |
| sylvieg | the admin screen is in a complete redesign ...... | [22:22] |
| Norrin_Rrr | btw, i talked with macjaeger on hour ago or so, about the fact that the files gallery admin screen doesn't allow to displace the files contained by the database to an external dir (like its possible with the image gallery admin screen) | [22:24] |
| SEWilco2 | SEWilco2 notes that remarks were noted. | [22:24] |
| Norrin_Rrr | its possible to set an external dir and news files go there but not to displace the existing ones.
Do you know if there is a workaround as i am asked to displace 60 mega or so of audio .ogg files to an external download dir ? i use tikiwiki 2.0 btw, haven't tried the 2.1 yet btw ! | [22:24] |
| SEWilco2 | Doesn't seem anyone has an immediate solution.
You can request a feature (or missing equivalent of image transfer as a bug) on dev.tikiwiki.org. But it looks like you'll just have to download them all and then upload them again. | [22:31] |
| sylvieg | do not be to excited 2.1 is close to 2.0 except for one mopre security issue | [22:33] |
| Norrin_Rrr | SEWilco, Yes but if some items are listed in the wiki articles, the reference will change and be broken. no ?
SEWilco, i can fill a missing feature | [22:36] |
| sylvieg | reference wil not be broken | [22:36] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i have to open an account, not sure a simple user like me can fill anything btw | [22:36] |
| SEWilco2 | Depends whether they are listed by name or by Id. | [22:36] |
| sylvieg | yes - missing feature - so far I know - I missed up with calendar watch earlier to be careful now
SEWilco2: are you sure? | [22:37] |
| SEWilco2 | sylvieg: Oh... because he'll be uploading a duplicate which will replace the original, the links won't break, they'll just start pointing to the file copy? | [22:37] |
| sylvieg | there is no name access in fgal | [22:37] |
| Norrin_Rrr | files are referenced like this: http://www.linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=148
by their number | [22:37] |
| sylvieg | yes so names are not important
and whatever they are | [22:38] |
| Norrin_Rrr | yes i have to respect the numbering | [22:38] |
| sylvieg | (not sure about the wiki attach files - think - to be checked they can be acces by name | [22:39] |
| Norrin_Rrr | and since there is a lot of files its too much hassle, i am afraid | [22:39] |
| SEWilco2 | OK. But at present fileId=148 would be pointing to his DB data, right? Can he upload a new copy on top, and it will be stored in file directory if that's how currently configured? | [22:39] |
| Norrin_Rrr | well it can wait if its possible to improve the admin screen , it has to be done anyway. | [22:40] |
| SEWilco2 | I don't suppose you're using a Unix/Linux system? | [22:40] |
| sylvieg | yeh 148 will go to the file or the db data... | [22:40] |
| Norrin_Rrr | we are.
And there is the description of the files anyway | [22:40] |
| SEWilco2 | Couldn't "wget" in a script grab copies of the files? You need a wrapper to count through the desired numbers. | [22:40] |
| sylvieg | guys - check it out - i think that you can mix file/db -.. | [22:40] |
| Norrin_Rrr | its too much work to do this manully | [22:41] |
| SEWilco2 | sylvieg: I think he is mixing them, but needs to move from DB. He didn't say why, but I'd put podcasts in file dir for web server performance reasons. | [22:42] |
| sylvieg | missing feature - who takes the challenge? | [22:42] |
| Norrin_Rrr | SEWilco, we have in fact 70 mega or so audio files in the database | [22:42] |
| sylvieg | it is already doen for image - it is the same
Norrin_Rrr: is the audio guy | [22:42] |
| Norrin_Rrr | on our new web server there is a special 1 go download directory | [22:43] |
| SEWilco2 | You mean 70 million files, or 70 megabytes of audio? | [22:43] |
| Norrin_Rrr | And we are asked to move our audio files into that dir
SEWilco, :) second choice | [22:43] |
| SEWilco2 | How many files, then? Probably a few hundred at most. | [22:44] |
| Norrin_Rrr | sorry its late, and i don't even speak french well (my native language)
SEWilco, yes | [22:44] |
| SEWilco2 | for i in {1..100}; do; wget http://example.com/something.php?fileId=$i; done | [22:45] |
| Norrin_Rrr | SEWilco, are you from USA like sylvieg ? | [22:45] |
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| SEWilco2 | I'm not certain about the "for..do" syntax as I haven't used that brace incantation before.
I found {1..100} in "man bash" under "Brace Expansion". | [22:46] |
| Norrin_Rrr | SEWilco, i will try that | [22:46] |
| SEWilco2 | If you're using Unix/Linux you may have someone who has written shell scripts and can run with the basic idea.
Of course, start with a request for five files. And quotes may be needed around "http://...fileId=" to avoid shell confusion. | [22:47] |
| Norrin_Rrr | but files that are stored in the external directory when u choose this option in the admin screen get a "479415f13fbd31843de24f18b5701f08" like code.
if i put the files directly in that dir after the exctraction ur proposing the database won't be able to associate them with the existing references | [22:49] |
| SEWilco2 | Norrin_Rrr: I'm suggesting fetching the audio files to a separate directory. You'll also have to upload them...although there is a batch upload tool. | [22:50] |
| Norrin_Rrr | yes but i will have to respect their order
not to break the wiki page that are referencing to them by their ID And moreover, these files have a description filled by the author and this have to be re-entered too and it does count that the author's name is respected | [22:50] |
| SEWilco2 | One second. | [22:52] |
| Norrin_Rrr | so there is no way, i can wait the admin screen does that automagically.
Should i fill a feature request then ? | [22:52] |
| SEWilco2 | Yeah, you should fill in the request whether it will be fixed in time for you or not. | [22:53] |
| Norrin_Rrr | may be i can hack myself the file of the admin screen :) | [22:53] |
| sylvieg | Norrin_Rrr: are your files in db? | [22:54] |
| Norrin_Rrr | sylvieg, precisely yes | [22:54] |
| sylvieg | big files in db is a bad idea
ok fill a feature request | [22:54] |
| Norrin_Rrr | that for this reason i have to move them
they take may be 1/6 of the db size, and people keep adding | [22:54] |
| sylvieg | you are lucky your hosting do not limit the size you can put in a database
s/do/does | [22:55] |
| Norrin_Rrr | and doesn't it lessen the performance ?
i am afraid so access time isn't that great were do i feel a request ? dev.tikiwiki.org ? | [22:55] |
| SEWilco2 | Yup, dev.tikiwiki.org | [22:58] |
| sylvieg | I do not think performance are involved - but usually hosting limit POST size so the data in your database are limited - you are a lucky one
and memory consumption - you have a good hosting.... | [22:58] |
| SEWilco2 | doc.tw.o admin: It would be nice to have a gallery for uploading non-Admin screenshots. I see "User Tasks" page lost its images, and I see no place to upload new ones.
sylvieg: He had good hosting, until someone started feeding audio files out of the database and slowed it down. :-) | [23:00] |
| sylvieg | bbl dinner time | [23:02] |
| Norrin_Rrr | bon appetit !
;) | [23:03] |
| SEWilco2 | Norrin_Rrr: You can mention in the request that you probably need something like move_gallery_store()
It looks like that is the image moving piece of code, and that will help whomever wants to work on it. | [23:05] |
| Norrin_Rrr | oki
i am just writing it | [23:07] |
| SEWilco2 | Yeah, looks like that piece of code won't be hard to rewrite, but I don't know if the file code is at all similar.
The existing code has too many references to image-specific things to be directly usable, starting with it talking to an "image" table instead of a file table. | [23:10] |
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| SEWilco2 | But probably most of the code can be translated to the file environment, whatever that needs. I haven't had to examine that part of the code before.
I just scaned all the code and did not find any functions with names similar to move_gallery_store, which reduces the chance of the needed function already existing. For me, it's quitting time. Got to get supper and rest up for the collection of updates and backups which I need to do tomorrow. Good luck. If you need to have someone use scripts to transfer the stuff, be aware the batch upload tool allows filename to be the upload file name... ... so if you save a list of the current file IDs and names, after downloading by ID a script could rename the numeric files to their more descriptive name... ... but that only helps with "name" not "description". At least it may help reduce confusion when manipulating the files. | [23:12] |
| Norrin_Rrr | http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2052&trackerId=5&show=view&reloff=0&cant=1019&status=o&trackerId=5&sort_mode=created_desc | [23:18] |
| SEWilco2 | If you have a web crawler programmer around, they might be able to chat with TikiWiki to stuff the desired info in there. | [23:19] |
| Norrin_Rrr | may be, anyway there is no hurry
i can wait a little | [23:20] |
| SEWilco2 | Although you might want to check if there is an "upload new version of this file" icon someplace...if that stores the new upload in file rather then DB then maybe you can use that with "wput".
Good luck. | [23:20] |
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| Norrin_Rrr | thanks for ur help | [23:20] |
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| Mary | hello i am having problems pulling up the tiki wiki index php file in my browser and my host refuses to help me what should i do i have been screwing around with this for over 12 hours
hello? | [23:25] |
| Norrin_Rrr | what do you mean exactly, are u trying to insall a nex tikiwiki ?
hello Mary | [23:27] |
| Mary | yes | [23:27] |
| Norrin_Rrr | oi
oki | [23:27] |
| Mary | i moved the new tiki 2.1 files into a directory on my host sever | [23:27] |
| Norrin_Rrr | yes | [23:27] |
| Mary | cantpull them up in browser my host is awful they refuse to help me | [23:28] |
| Norrin_Rrr | ok | [23:28] |
| Mary | when i click on the file it gives me the url and it does not work why? | [23:29] |
| Norrin_Rrr | when you open your browser on your site what does it say ?
it there a message ? | [23:29] |
| Mary | Internal Server Error | [23:30] |
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| Norrin_Rrr | may be a problem with php
Your host should allow various settings that's the tricky part what kind of host is it ? | [23:31] |
| Mary | meaning what
mochahost is my provider | [23:33] |
| Norrin_Rrr | if u try to host ur site on a basic internet provider, its not sure it will work because they are putting some limitations | [23:35] |
| Mary | what info do you need
to determine i will link you | [23:36] |
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| Mary | www.mochahost.com
i am ready to cry =[ | [23:37] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i know its fuckink crazy
:D | [23:39] |
| Mary | i have been trying to install tiki wiki for three days now =[ | [23:39] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i had a lot of little annoyances like that too :)
are a total beginner ? | [23:39] |
| Mary | my host supplies me with the 1.9 version should i just use that?
pretty much yea | [23:40] |
| Norrin_Rrr | the 2.x version is vastly better
you will save yourself another run of trouble upgrading later | [23:41] |
| Mary | i am basing my whole website off this software so need to do it right
what should i do now i am so frustrated | [23:41] |
| Norrin_Rrr | you provider seem ok at first glance | [23:42] |
| Mary | what questions should i ask my host
if you tell me i will ask them i am paid up for two years with host so they better be = | [23:42] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i think u did the right thing going on this chan
unfortunatly i am not very experienced | [23:43] |
| Mary | i have no where else to go | [23:43] |
| Norrin_Rrr | but i have set a tikiwiki 2.0 on a web server | [23:43] |
| Mary | oh is ther not anyone here to help
ricks99? | [23:43] |
| Norrin_Rrr | There are a lot of people helping here usually but its dinner time | [23:44] |
| Mary | carrie wont help me i asked her earlier | [23:44] |
| Norrin_Rrr | well i can summup the installation like this
First stage is to reach the tikiwiki install page it seems u don't see it yet | [23:44] |
| Mary | yes i know
i havent even go ther got there yet tikiwiki gave me carpel tunnel =[ | [23:46] |
| Norrin_Rrr | The reason is probably that PHP is not allowed or something like that
this looks very weird to me | [23:47] |
| Mary | what does? | [23:47] |
| Norrin_Rrr | See on your personnal account on this host if there are some settings | [23:48] |
| Mary | in cpanel | [23:48] |
| Norrin_Rrr | may be some services are disabled by default
yes you should have MySQL and PHP | [23:48] |
| Mary | i acnt even pull up my hosts homepage www.mochahost can you? it says page load erroe
i do | [23:48] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i can reach www.mochahost.com | [23:49] |
| Mary | cant can they block me? they probably did i ve been annoying them all day oh great =[ | [23:50] |
| Norrin_Rrr | weird | [23:50] |
| Mary | yea weird
also i use mozilla is that ok? | [23:50] |
| Norrin_Rrr | it should
i use it too but on linux | [23:51] |
| Mary | they have me on linux too | [23:52] |
| Norrin_Rrr | Mary, please note that you will have to create a MySQL database too | [23:52] |
| Mary | i did
but havent did anything with it | [23:53] |
| Norrin_Rrr | yes in fact, it is not the cause of ur trouble right now | [23:53] |
| Mary | didnt think so
this is so simple it has to be a setting on the hosts side | [23:53] |
| Norrin_Rrr | okay they have apache with PHP extension so everything that u need | [23:55] |
| Mary | how is it possible that i cant access www.mochahost.com | [23:55] |
| Norrin_Rrr | i don't know
a cockie pbm ? | [23:55] |
| Mary | it says cannont find server cAN they block me by ip?
brb | [23:55] |
| Norrin_Rrr | have you another browser at hand ? | [23:55] |
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