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marclaporteyo [00:01]
NefariousCyoyo [00:01]
marclaporteanybody else getting weird errors upon svn checkout?
NefariousC: : I got compliments about magic today

and some questions/interest about where it's going
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NefariousCmarclaporte: It's lost!
What kind of questions?
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marclaporteglobally, what is next step? [00:03]
lphmarc, what kind of errors? [00:03]
marclaportewhere is it going [00:03]
NefariousCOh, it's going over there, in the sidebar <:
And at some point, someone is going to finish fixing up all of the labels <:
And then we'll all disco dance...
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marclaportehehe [00:05]
NefariousC...then I'll glue some more things on it.
But not before the disco dancing.
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marclaportelet's go to Electric Avenue to Disco [00:05]
NefariousCWellington has a bar called Electric Avenue. I only ever walked past it. Mostly it played terrible 80's music. [00:06]
lphmostly the same here [00:06]
marclaportehttp://www.clubsmontreal.com/en/
it's great music!
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NefariousCNefariousC clubs marclaporte
Oh, but aside from that, magic, I think, will form two interfaces - one for configuring, and one for finding the fricken page where you add whatever content.
It should also do more with permissions.
And at some point, there will be a DELETION RAMPAGE.
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marclaportemarclaporte 's foot is tapping to the beat of Sweet Dreams (Eurythmics) [00:08]
NefariousCNefariousC gets some nine inch nails and hammers marcs feet to the wall. [00:09]
marclaportemarclaporte hums "thriller" (Micheal Jackson) [00:09]
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marclaporteNefariousC: : how about a search box like in cPanel?
which filters all options with current string...
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NefariousCmarclaporte: Geeze. Do I look like a genie to you? I don't think I look like a genie. And yet here you are with all these wishes. [00:12]
lphwell, a search in the option name does look like the most realistic wish marc made in a long time [00:13]
marclaportemarclaporte can imagine NefariousC dressed like Jeannie from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dream_of_Jeannie [00:17]
NefariousCBetween magic and the css stuff I'm doing, he might be better off with unrealistic wishes d:
I take that back.
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marclaportebe careful what you wish for! [00:17]
NefariousCOh, indeed. Genies will Fuck You Up. [00:18]
marclaporteIf I run out of ideas, I'll ask xavi to help!
lph: I didn't keep error message, now it looks ok
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lph: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=30396 [00:44]
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lphlooks like the release procedure was wrong
what problems does it cause? I could install and run 2.1 without problems
actually, convertsql had to be run with an undocumented parameter... can't really blame anyone for this one
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marclaportenot blaming anyone :-)
there is no db change from 2.0 to 2.1
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CaarrieCaarrie points at the sky and blames someone up there :P [01:01]
marclaporteso maybe just that? [01:01]
lphjust inconsistencies... installer points to files that exist... that adminlib does not
however, I have no idea what that code does
listing tables... could have used tiki.sql... would have been more stable
or ask the db server
only used in admin system
probably related to that fix utf-8 thing
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marclaportethis is an annoying regression: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1769&highlight=bibliography [01:57]
chibaguyWhat's the regression? [01:59]
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chibaguychibaguy , maybe needing more coffee, just sees a feature request at that url. [02:12]
marclaportelph: if I have a 1.9 db, and I upgrade to 3.0, I am offered automatic update, will it update to 2.x before updating to 3.0? [02:26]
lphyes [02:27]
marclaportegot blank page : http://etmis.org/3x/tiki-index.php
after automatic upgrade
but maybe it's something else in the code
cuase server is php4
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lphcheck logs
that's it
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marclaporteerror logs have: [Mon Sep 29 17:58:23 2008] [error] [client 65.94.5.76] File does not exist: /home/etmis/public_html/2.0/styles/transitions/1.9to2.1.css
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /home/etmis/public_html/3x/lib/wiki/renderlib.php on line 5
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lphnot supposed to work under PHP 4 [02:44]
marclaporteI confirm that it doesn't [02:48]
lpheasy guess [02:48]
marclaportewith php5, it works
but I can't login
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chibaguyRelated topic (installation 2.1) in tw.o forum: tiki-2.1-mysql.sql missing
PHP (5.2.6) ERROR (E_WARNING):
File: adminlib.php
Line: 403
Type: file(db/tiki-2.1-mysql.sql) function.file: failed to open stream: No such file or directory
posted by a user.
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I think two areas that Tiki must be really solid in are installation and user registration/login. These need to be thoroughly tested before every release IMHO. [03:06]
marclaportechibaguy: : a test procedure would be good
we could use tikitests to run through them at each release
maybe we could find a power user to record these tests...
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chibaguySure, this must be a common thing to do in software development. [03:13]
marclaportemarclaporte wonders if there are any travel developments from chibaguy :-) [03:14]
chibaguychibaguy should know in a day or two. Trying to get things worked out wrt client schedules in nov.... [03:15]
marclaportemarclaporte is going to be "defending" largest ever tikiwiki project proposal in 14hours
if we get it, you can all say goodbye to most things on the wishlist here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/editUIRevamp
and workspaces too :-)
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chibaguySounds good. Hope the defense goes well. [03:17]
marclaporteI feel like I am back in school :-) [03:17]
chibaguyHave three main points; a clear introduction and summary.....:-)
(don't know if that's appropriate, but am recalling methodical approach used in school....)
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PS|botSVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14903 /trunk/styles/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] .icon class added for removal of deprecated img border="0" tag and for styling of a.icon (no border), especially in div.navbar. [07:13]
SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14904 /trunk/styles/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] More specificity needed. [07:27]
luciashpolom [07:28]
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chibaguyI was looking at the classes used with links in Tiki, trying to find patterns. Any theories on this? :-)
Specifically, "linkmenu". These are mostly in the normal Tiki menus, but also for other internal navigation, like "go back" and "Home" on the error page.
A useful project would be to list all the anchor tag classes and see about combining them as much as possible.
I thought class="linkmenu" could be eliminated, because I thought it was always in div.option, but then found it elsewhere. :-|
Still, why would menu style and links out in the page have the same class?
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luciashhmmm [07:45]
chibaguyWhenever I do a theme thing, I see linkmenu linkmodule link button2 button3 navbar etc etc and go a little crazy ;-)
I feel sorry for newcomers...
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luciashyep, in ideal world all the links would need no class at all and be styled by cascading from their parent tag class [07:46]
chibaguytrue [07:48]
luciashi think repeated classes are not necessary (like the linkmenu) when they can be styled by the class or id of the menu
but then on the other places in the special cases there should be some classes kept if there's no better semantic way
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chibaguyI think so too, and probably should look more at a.linkmenu outside of the menus. [07:50]
luciashi just prefer some kind of simplicity and logic
class called "linkmenu" is not logical from mpov and is unnecessary
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chibaguyRight. I think if links have a class, it should maybe reflect the purpose or special appearance. I don't know what linkmenu means especially when not used in a menu. [07:52]
luciashchibaguy, i wish you really could come to montreal so we can discuss in person about it
;)
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chibaguyWell, I hope so. Just need to clear obligations with jobs, clients, etc. [07:54]
luciashgood to hear you fight with that and don't give up ;) [07:54]
chibaguyWhich fight -- job obligations, or Tiki classes? ;-) [07:56]
luciashboth ;)
but i meant job obligations, yep :)
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chibaguyAh, yeah, have to try to keep everything smooth. [07:57]
luciashbtw, got my fb invitation ? [07:57]
chibaguyYes, I did.
Thanks, i'll have to check it out.
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luciashok :) [07:57]
chibaguy(not a member yet) [07:57]
ParagtimHi all, In the forum editor, I'm trying to clear away some of the "Quicktags". I can't seem to find an entry that covers "Special Characters" Any ideas on how to remove the icon/option? [07:58]
luciashhi Paragtim, i wonder if it's hardcoded [07:59]
ParagtimI hope not - It has been crashing some of the test systems :( [07:59]
luciashis it only in forums ? [08:01]
ParagtimI've replaced the wiki editor with FCKeditor and it came as a bit of a shock to find the was still being used for comments and forums
As it was causing prob I thought I would try to remove it
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14908 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_skype.php: tra [11:02]
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agvivinoHi All [11:18]
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agvivino1am I myself or myself? sigh
anyone awake?
<<< new to tikiwiki - spending many late nights learning my way through it
<<< is hanging out reading docs
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agvivino1hi Caarie not sleeping any more [11:25]
lorinchi :) [11:27]
agvivino1are you knowledgable about permissions in terms of categories?
<<< is about 4 days into TikiWiki
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lorincnot much actually, i don't use categs too often [11:28]
agvivino1Hi lorinc
I've got a bunch of stuff set up that all works well except the whole part about making stuff available to some but not others etc
LOL what I've got set up "should" work but we've all been there before right?
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lorinc:) [11:30]
agvivino1what part of this fancy planet are you on? [11:30]
lorinchungary, central europe [11:31]
agvivino1gotcha - Oregon US (West Coast) [11:31]
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lorincso, how are the perms setup, and how have u assigned users?
did u use global perms for categs or assign individual perms for each?
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agvivino1I have the standard groups (admins / registered / anonymous) and I made a group called author... then
I have
another group called Author
I set up categ's just like the doc's Status and 5 or 6 childrens
I set up Admins so that they can view and edit all
and I set up Author almost the same... just cant author anything past the "Reviewed" stage
and I set up Registered so that they can ONLY see approved
well the part about can only see things in the approved categ works
but when I log in as the user id with Author it doesn't let me see the extra stuff.
the Admin user CAN see so I've been focusing on something messed up with the Author group
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lorinccould u link the page with the docs u used , plz? [11:39]
agvivino1wiki.truecompasslending.com [11:39]
lorincand u got two groups? author and Author?
or one is the group name, the other a user id?
[11:39]
agvivino1no... just a group of Author
I've got a user set up with my email address...
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lorincalright, and where did u assign the perms? [11:41]
agvivino1when I add a user it sets the default group as registered and then I add Autho [11:41]
lorincok, thats cool
how about the author groups right assignment?
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agvivino1I've got a few things I did [11:42]
lorincu have given a specific category permissions to the group? [11:42]
agvivino1yes - but let me double check these things as you ask them...
oh
also
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lorincthe group itself can have so called global permissions which apply [11:43]
agvivino1When I set up Author it gets all of the Registered permissions inherrantly (sp?) [11:43]
lorincand the category object can have specific rights assigned too
yes, if the author group "includes" registered group
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agvivino1I know - the flexibility is incredible (once you get a handle on it) [11:43]
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lorincorder of checking is like this: 1. user belongs to which group? 2. which global perms has the group assigned (included) 3. check object for special perms assigned [11:44]
agvivino1So - Author gets Registered group perms plus I added the following
tiki_p_admin_categories
tiki_p_edit_categorized
tiki_p_search
tiki_p_view_categories
tiki_p_view_categorized
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lorincspecial object related perms override global group related perms
ok, thats the perms for the author group, these should be fine
now check the special perms on the category objects...
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agvivino1BTW - thanks for this help!!! [11:46]
lorinc:) [11:46]
agvivino1So - I'm in admin categories
with a test page of "Test To Do Content" that has been added to the "To Do" Categ
If I log in as my user that is Author / Registered it can not but should be able to see it. I've also DISABLED the deal in categs that says
Permission to all (not just any) of an object's categories is required for access
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lorincas anonymous i get perm denied at http://wiki.truecompasslending.com/tiki-index.php?page=Test To Do Content [11:50]
agvivino1I'll set you up with an author access [11:50]
lorincmsg me with the details [11:51]
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agvivino1LOL its been about 6 years since I've used mIRC cant remember how to do a private message [11:52]
Sandyhello i am having problems I created a database and downloaded the latest tiki now i need to ftp it over to my c panel [11:52]
Caarrie/msg lorinc [11:53]
agvivino1ahhh got it
ohhh - I did a dcc hang on
* /msg: insufficient parameters
thats when I do a /msg lorinc
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lorinctry /msg lorinc yourmessage ;P [11:54]
Sandyhello i am having problems I created a database and downloaded the latest tiki now i need to ftp it over to my c panel how when i cant see the database in my ftp05 [11:54]
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lorincSandy: the database is in the database server [11:54]
Paragtimagvivino1 - Not butting in - I think Caarrie will be able to sort you out. You could also try this link. It is for a working approval system and may help get you where you want to go:-
http://www.oops-again.co.uk/tiki-index.php?page=Approval%20System&structure=001
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lorincSandy: if u have all files copied to your ftp account, run tiki-install.php from your browser, and supply the details of your db connection there [11:55]
CaarrieParagtim: i have not admin'ed a tw in over a year ;) [11:55]
Sandycan you link me to the tiki install php [11:56]
agvivino1I'm sure its just one minor little thing not set... [11:56]
ParagtimBut you where saying all the thingas i would have - which is why I stayed quiet :) [11:56]
Sandylorinc? [11:57]
lorincSandy: u gotta know the url, cause u're the webmaster of your site [11:57]
agvivino1Paragtim - I was?
or lorinc?
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lorincSandy: after u copy the files over to your acount, tiki-install.php will be in the root folder of your tikiwiki installation [11:58]
Paragtimagvivino1 - When you go into the permissions and do a find for categ - do you have 5 permissions showing?
sorry - wrong persons
meant lorinc
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Sandylorinc when you say copy the files over to my account what do ya mean i unzipped in a folder on my pc desktop
lorinc do you mean for me to look in that folder for a install file
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agvivino1Paragtim - If I'm looking in the right spot... I only see 4... they are:
Can admin categs
can edit items in categs
can view categs
Can view categed items
thats for the registered group
the author group gets them inherently
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Sandylorinc? [12:02]
agvivino1lorinc may have gotten booted
name still on list but I can't do a /msg
to him? (or is it her?)
[12:03]
SandyCaarrie [12:03]
Paragtimagvivino1 - If I've read what you are trying to do correctly - You need to go into group - author - permissions. Then in the find box enter categ and press find. [12:04]
CaarrieSandy: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Manual%20Installation&structure=TikiWiki%20for%20Smarties [12:04]
ParagtimThis will give you a list of 5 categories - 4 under categores and 1 under wiki [12:04]
Sandyyes carrie the manual is great but does not help for this [12:05]
Caarrieyes it does
read it again
[12:05]
ParagtimSometimes I noticed that v2 doesn't always load all 5 into the database when you do the install [12:06]
Sandyno it doesnt carrie i'm going to get my mom to help =[ [12:08]
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erwan_tafhey folks
Just installed tikiwiki 2.1 for the first time
looks very good, congrats
About the calendar, I just have a question about how to set participants
I've been adding "0:me 1:other" but doesn't seems to be recorded
any hint/tips about that ?
oh I missed the coma...
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erwan_tafis it possible to receive an email notification when an event is processed in the calendar ? [12:26]
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erwan_tafanyone for my question ? [12:49]
SandyI am transfering the tikiwiki files to a directory to my host but [12:56]
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SEWilcoerwan_taf: I haven't looked at calendar behavior, but you might check if there is an eye symbol on calendars. The eye symbol is used for setting a "watch" on changes in wiki, but I don't know about calendars. [13:00]
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erwan_tafSEWilco: even on wiki I don't see any "eye" symbol
do I have to enable something ?
or maybe I don't look at the right place
[13:05]
lphI don't know much about calendars... but I think it's only a view on other objects... the other objects, like pages, tracker items and whatever can be displayed in there contain the behavior... not the calendar itself [13:09]
erwan_tafsorry, I'm new to tiki and I don't understand what you say lph [13:09]
lphhappens a lot - has nothing to do with being new to tiki [13:10]
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agvivino1Prob Solved!!! Thank Lorinc!
Thanks all for the support!
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erwan_tafI might use the rss.... but once it's created I don't have the right to read it
erwan_taf have a permission denied from his news reader
[13:16]
luciashwhat parameters we can use for {icon ...} smarty modifier
?
[13:20]
erwan_taferwan_taf is kinda lost.. [13:21]
luciashi'd like to replace this in the code: <img src="pics/icons/lock.png" alt="{tr}Locked{/tr}" title="{tr}locked by{/tr} {page_user}" />
lph ?
[13:21]
lphuh... do it? [13:22]
luciashcan i build alt and title using params for the icon ?
is there a wiki page describing what is available as params for the smarty modifier ?
er, sorry if it was nyloth who wrote the {icon} ?
[13:22]
lphI know I didn't
but generally, the smarty stuff is documented in the file
[13:24]
sylviegyes if you add param without _ they will be added directly [13:24]
luciashsylvieg: ah, nice [13:25]
sylvieg{icon alt="fff" } [13:25]
luciashlph: what file ? [13:25]
lphthe file defining the icon thing... should be in lib/smarty_tiki/ [13:25]
luciashsylvieg: how to put alt="{tr}Locked{/tr}" there ?
lph: thx
[13:25]
lphtry alt='Locked'|tra
or @tra... never knew
[13:26]
sylvieg{icon _id='cross' alt='{tr}Remove Image{/tr}'} [13:26]
luciashlph: ah, cool [13:26]
lphblocks within blocks sounds weird to be...
me*
[13:27]
luciashsylvieg: oh, can i use smarty tr inside smarty modifier ? wow [13:27]
lphlike <img alt="<b>Hello</b>"/> [13:27]
luciashluciash is wondering too
i'll try your sugestions, thanks
both ;)
[13:27]
erwan_taferwan_taf needs help [13:32]
luciashsylvieg: {tr}{/tr} works but not the page_user [13:33]
erwan_tafI really don't understand how to generate emails based on events and/or how to make it possible to read the rss calendar feed from a usual rss reader [13:33]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14914 /trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] : we may have more than 5 tabs... but maybe 50 is out of reach... This fix pb of pages where more than five tabs are present and you go on the sixth and save the page then you have an almost blank page :( [13:34]
luciashsylvieg: ah, got it ! i have to use double quotes and page_user without double brackets [13:36]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14915 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): move pluginFiles to trunk to update to new file display [13:38]
erwan_taferwan_taf become crazy
nobody can help me ?
[13:46]
sylviegas written at the top - just ask - don't ask to ask [13:50]
lphdid you look through the doc and tiki for smarties? [13:50]
sylviegah .. perm on rss? [13:51]
erwan_taflph: since 4h yes
sylvieg: I've been asking many times
[13:52]
lphlph: sorry.. can't help you more, all I would know about this is in the doc
erwan: that would be
[13:53]
erwan_taf:) [13:53]
lphtalking to myself is bad [13:53]
sylviegeach rss has a perm for isntance a rss calendar you need tiki_p_view_calendars [13:55]
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erwan_tafsylvieg: ok for the rss
sylvieg: any idea for sending an email when an event is posted/updated ?
because when using rss, its kind of difficult to know an entry had changed :/
[14:14]
sylviegI do not think there is a watch on calendar...
there is a watch on actegory...
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erwan_taf:/ [14:22]
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erwan_tafso I will have to think about another product :/ [14:27]
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Jenniferhello i am using C panel and i am having trouble executing the tiki install php file can anyone help = [ [14:30]
ricks99should be as simple as going to ..../tiki-install.php with a web browser [14:30]
Jenniferyes i have been told that but i dont really understand
can yo uexplain
[14:31]
ricks99yes. did you copy (ftp) all the files to you web host? [14:32]
Jenniferi did [14:32]
ricks99did you create a database on your host? [14:32]
Jenniferi did [14:32]
ricks99open a web browser to wherever you ftped the files (for example: www.yourhost.com/tiki/tiki-install.php)
see her for a quick tutorial: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Configuring%20DB%20Connection&structure=TikiWiki%20for%20Smarties
[14:33]
Jenniferdo you mean open the directory where i can view these in my cpanel? [14:33]
ricks99no. from a web browser
you don't need cpanel to run the installer. just a regular web browser
[14:34]
Jenniferwhat exactly would i put in the browser [14:34]
ricks99where did u ftp the files? [14:34]
Jenniferok yes i am studying the manual but cant get to that screen
in a new directory that i named tiki
[14:34]
ricks99ok. then open a web browser to that directory. http://www.yourdomain.com/tiki/tiki-install.php [14:35]
Jenniferok 1 sec rick
address not found rick
what does that mean
[14:35]
ricks99what is your domain?
after ftping the files, does your web host require some special action to make the files "live"?
[14:36]
Jenniferok i c give me 1 sec rick
www.reviewnreport.com rick
[14:38]
ricks99are you sure the directory is "tiki" directly in the root? [14:40]
Jenniferi must of done something wrong [14:41]
ricks99does your webhost require some special action to "publish" the tiki directory? [14:41]
Jenniferit has to be directly in the root? [14:41]
ricks99no. it can be anywhere. in what directory did you put the "tiki" folder? [14:42]
Jenniferit actually doe not have a name all i see is a pic of a house [14:43]
ricks99you need to know the URL of the directory. [14:44]
Jenniferok does it need to be in public directory? [14:44]
ricks99it needs to be publically availalbe [14:45]
Jenniferok i got to fool around with it but on right track ty rick =] [14:48]
marclaporteerwan_taf: : this is not a product. It is a software project managed by volunteers. If you want at a product with a warranty, I suggest you get a toaster
:-)
[14:49]
erwan_tafmarclaporte: I know what's an OSS project thx
I'm participing in many but in that case, tikiwiki doesn't match my need ... I can understand that this feature doesn't exist
I said ":/" because I had a good feeling with it but I have to change to something else
[14:50]
marclaportehehe [14:51]
lphlph thinks the new icon for edit plugin icon is a great idea [14:51]
marclaportewell, one thing that always fascinating is that it doesn't matter how many features we have, people always want more [14:52]
lpherwan, want commit access to add the missing feature? [14:52]
erwan_taflph: I don't have any web skill and to be honnest, web dev always drive me mad ;)
erwan_taf prefer C code
[14:52]
ricks99web skills not necessary. ricks99 == case in point :) [14:53]
marclaporteerwan_taf: : maybe whatever you can change to will have this specific thing you are missing in tiki but will be lacking something else [14:54]
erwan_taferwan_taf wonder how much web/tikiwiki knowledge its necessary to assimilate to be able to propose a good patch [14:55]
marclaporteerwan_taf: : the code to watch stuff aleady exists for wiki pages, articles, etc
and the calendar already exists
[14:56]
lphwe don't really accept patch proposals... it's more about patching and asking questions later [14:56]
erwan_tafuh [14:57]
marclaportehttp://dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access
[14:57]
erwan_tafhum
looks like calendar already have a watch() function that sends mails...
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marclaporteerwan_taf: : over 200 people have added code. With C knowledge, you'll be fine [15:00]
ricks99speaking of watches... im trying to figure out a way to let "anonymous" visitors watch pages.....
tiki allows anonymous to subscribe to newsletters. any way to extend that type of funtionality to watches?
[15:01]
erwan_tafcode says :
if ($prefs['feature_user_watches'] == 'y') {
but I can't see any feature_user_watches
[15:03]
ricks99enable user watches on the "user" tab in admin: features
*rick scrolls back....
calendar already has wa "watch" feature.
[15:04]
marclaportericks99: talk to Nelson, he working with support.mozilla.com for this [15:06]
erwan_tafricks99: enabled [15:06]
marclaporteI have tiki-calendar.php?watch_event=calendar_changed&watch_action=remove on my 2.1 calendar [15:07]
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ricks99@erwan_taf: should now have a EYE icon (for registered users) when viewing a calendar [15:08]
erwan_tafsee that
great
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ricks99@marclaporte: is there a list of future features being driven by mozilla?
would b nice to see 'what's in store'
[15:09]
lphricks, they have their own svn... little bit of lag for things to get backported
they have a few UI improvements that are too specific to be shared back and performance tuning (which may break some features they don't use, but testing is required)
[15:10]
erwan_tafricks99: I receive emails but only for one attendee [15:12]
ricks99i saw some requests (wrt layout of registration page) and i implemented some stuff in truck (pw strength checker, etc) [15:12]
sylviegwhere do you see the watch icon in calendar ... I do not have one... [15:13]
ricks99@erwan_taf: each person "watching" the calendar should get a notification [15:13]
sylviegah got it you need to have only one calendar dispalyed
messy interface....
[15:13]
ricks99@ sylvieg: y. need a calendar b4 u can watch :) [15:13]
erwan_tafricks99: i'm trying to figure out why it doesn't ;) [15:13]
ricks99if "you" enter the event, "you" will not get a notification
tiki = messy interface :)
[15:14]
erwan_tafI can understand that
I tried both
from user a to b
and from b to a
[15:14]
marclaportericks99 : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Performance [15:14]
sylviegsylvieg thinks we need a list calendar with a watch for each calendar - hopes nyloth will do a great job [15:15]
ricks99and a w "watch by calendar category,location etc."
would be gr8 to get notifications for all events of "type Foo" in lcoation "Bar"
gee... how about geotagging calendar events :)
[15:15]
marclaportericks99: I am almost sure I will have a budget to refactor quicktags. If you have stuff you want, now is the time [15:21]
erwan_tafricks99: I can't figure why my other user doesn't receive anything [15:23]
ricks99valid email?
@marc: would be nice to have the quicktagstags stored *once* in db, then referenced for each feature
instead of being stored once per feature. makes maintenance a nightmare
and quicktags *should not* be overwritten on an upgrade :(
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erwan_tafricks99: it is [15:25]
ricks99check ur mail log? was the the mail actually generated? [15:25]
sylviegricks99: +1 for the feature wiki only - must discuss with amette (I think it is him that did that) I was against [15:26]
ricks99wiki only? [15:27]
erwan_tafricks99: which logs ? [15:27]
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ricks99tiki log. and mail log [15:27]
erwan_tafsorry... where is tiki log ? [15:28]
ricks99main menu. Admin > Tiki Logs [15:29]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14918 /trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX] use remove icon instead of delete (too confusing to have two identical icons for different purposes) [15:29]
erwan_tafricks99: I see the summary, how can I get more details ?
I can't click on them
[15:31]
ricks99not sure [15:32]
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erwan_tafricks99: it works
I created a new account and everything is ok
thx a lot ricks99
[15:36]
ricks99:0 my pleasure [15:36]
erwan_tafI was about to miss the feature I was looking for [15:36]
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Jenniferhey rick is there a possiblity that there is a setting i need to change because it does not come up in my browser =[ [15:45]
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ricks99will need to check with your host on how to make a file "live" [15:45]
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Jenniferok ty [15:48]
marclaportericks99: : please add those thoughts to the wiki page [15:50]
Jenniferhey rick they wont help me i have veruy bad host support =[ [15:59]
ricks99hm...
in your control panel. do you have a "www" or "public" folder maybe?
the issue is the tiki folder that you created is not publically available
who is ur host?
[16:00]
Jennifermochahost
i put it in my public html file
they keep saying that it is a 3rd party issue i keep saying it is c panel
i put it all in the browser no luck what could i be doing wrong?
[16:01]
ricks99when you ftped the files. what was the *exact* url u used? [16:02]
Jenniferwww.mydomain/public_html /tiki/tiki-index.php
i dont know i am gonna have to look dont wanna waste anymore of your time you guys are really cool and i am sure i will have more questions =]
[16:04]
ricks99i dont know. but now i get a sever error at: http://www.reviewnreport.com/tiki/tiki-index.php
need to ask your host "what do i need to do to make the folder that I uploaded in ../public_html/tiki/.... publiclly available"
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Jenniferyea i am not giving you all info rick for privacy reasons its cool i'll screw around with it thanks so much =] [16:08]
ricks99good luck
its really shouldn't be this hard :(
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in 2.0 svn... there's no 2.0 to 2.2 upgrade script? [16:16]
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lphstill uses 1.9to2.0, but really, there are no changes to the DB since 2.0
this is all gone from 3.0 anyway
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SEWilco2Good. I accidentally upgraded one site to 3.0 yesterday from 1.9.11. Then 1.9.11 couldn't use the DB, but 2.1 could. [16:46]
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SEWilco2Which was fine. I was trying to upgrade to 2.1, so all OK now. [16:46]
lph3.0 DB is not too different from 2.x... few additional tables, but nothing major [16:48]
Jenniferhey rick
when i click on that tiki install file it gives me this address
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PS|botSVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14919 /branches/2.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Switch editor mode: fixes markup parsing when switching to and from WYSIWYG Keeps edits, works on smilies, plugins, tables, images, headings etc Tested well on trunk now so committing (slightly modified) here in case 2.2 is released [17:19]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14920 /branches/2.0/lib/overlib.js: [FIX] Renamed overLIB's windowWidth function to olWindowWidth to avoid conflict with PHP Layers Menu windowWidth variable. (overLIB was last updated in 2005 but have contacted the author - no response) [17:26]
snarlydwarfugh, a cow-orker has some evil windows "monitoring" thingie
and it is making a siren sound
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sylviegI do not like this big back port in 2.0 .... I got 6 conflits for the last merge I did... [17:28]
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lphI agree with sylvieg on this one [17:43]
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lphmerges also become harder as trunk evolves [17:44]
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SEWilco2I'm not understanding why a batch upload is failing, and insert_file() only returns FALSE with no details.
Is there a logging tool which I could use to emit details of a processing failure?
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macjaegerof course you checked the permissions, filesize and df? [18:13]
SEWilco2File is public read, directory is public rw, filesize 61K, 31 GB available.
Is there a logging function which can be used to log such failures? I'm aware of a user login/logout log, but not an activity log.
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macjaegeras i said: of course you did :-)
this is apache upload?
is the error specific to that file, or general?
[18:15]
SEWilco2Batch upload. File is in the server, using batch screen. [18:16]
macjaegeryou might want to check the apache logs [18:17]
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SEWilco2I loaded in several dozen other files OK. Had to tinker with this one's name because it started with ".NET" on a Unix filesystem. [18:17]
macjaegerhehe [18:17]
lphsylvieg, just made a quick merge... basically no changes, but at least we won't get those huge conflicts caused by the backport next time around [18:17]
macjaegermaybe it's already there, you just don't see it? .* files are hidden in linux [18:18]
SEWilco2Yeah, I'll check the Apache logs. But I was hoping there already was an application log which I could use to enhance that function's reporting.
No, the file was not visible for earlier upload. And the filename now starts with "_NET".
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macjaegersorry, no else idea [18:19]
PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14921 /trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14901 to 14920 [18:19]
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macjaeger*sigh*
why always me?
i've just been told, that i have to present our tikiwiki to students tomorrow
... in a room without internet connection!
is there such thing as a standalone tikiwiki-package?
or will i have to setup some local wamp myself?
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luciashmacjaeger: checkout the tiki live cd
http://tikiwiki.org/TikiLiveCD
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PS|botSVN: Commit by luciash :: r 14922 /branches/2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] allow display page title when breadcrumbs are on, display location prefix in center column too when switched on, display the location bar with breadcrumbs only once, better to highlight the current page in breadcrumbs by strong than h1, ... [18:44]
macjaegerthanks for the tipp, but i need to present _our live installation_
is it possible to copy that to the live-cd?
ah, the pages sent me to usbtiki :-)
maybe that's exactly what i'm looking for :-)
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luciashmacjaeger: i think you'll have to cook your own "live cd" then :) [18:47]
macjaegerwell, i'll try that after i tried a portable wamp
thanks for your input
[18:48]
luciashi think you can boot the live cd image, then import your mysql db dump and then save the changes
np, yaw
[18:49]
macjaegeri really don't know what they've been thinking up there ... set me up to present our new tikiwiki to a large group of students, and just told me (by fax!) that they had to move the presentation from the it-lab to the main hall, which is great (it means that there will be about 200 students, i'll get to wear a wireless headset mikro!), but which i also know to have no internet connections, neither wired nor wifi
and that presentation is in about 13 hours from now...
i guess they think they're doing me a big favor, speaking to an audience that large... *g*
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luciashouch :-/
i hope you'll figure that out quickly and with great success
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PS|botSVN: Commit by luciash :: r 14923 /branches/2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] added missing site location bar + little padding fix [18:55]
macjaegeri'm sure i'll come up wiht something... i even considered homeplug for a moment [18:56]
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macjaegerright now i'm running a backup of my live site [18:56]
..... (idle for 20mn)
WOW
now that was fun!
i just downloaded MoWeS, a portable wamp
i copied database and httpdocs
created database user
and it's up and running!
25 minutes
most of which was download time :-)
oh. k. no.
wysiwyg editor isn't working
asking for toolbar "tiki"
damn
[19:16]
philippebackwhat is the relationship between BitWeaver and Tiki ? sylvieg, I see this on your site too. [19:27]
luciashphilippeback: it's fork of Tiki which evolved on its own then
macjaeger: damn, but is it on 2.1 ?
[19:29]
macjaegerjepp
CustomConfigurationsPath=http://localhost/setup_fckeditor.php
i guess that's the problem
the in path
it doesn't load the config
thus uses default 'tiki' instead of whatever
[19:30]
luciashah, try to remove the "" [19:31]
macjaegerhow?
that's in the generated pagesource
don't know where that's built
[19:31]
luciashwhere did u got the CustomConfigurationsPath= ?
ah
[19:31]
macjaegerin linux, there's no at that point [19:32]
luciashsure [19:32]
philippebackthx luciash [19:32]
Caarriei bet a windoze user coded that ;) [19:32]
macjaegeri bet _no_ windows user coded that [19:33]
Caarriehehe [19:33]
luciashi bet windoze add that there themselves in da path [19:33]
macjaegermore likely, yes :-) [19:33]
Caarriehosted on windoze ? [19:33]
macjaegerit's like windows can't live without backslashes...
running on win, yes, not hosted though
using it only local
[19:33]
Caarrieok
i did not know that part ;)
[19:34]
luciashif you'd ran it on da usb flash disk that would be solution ;) [19:34]
macjaegerwould it?
i'd have to run it from windows still
[19:34]
Caarriedo a linux live cd type thingy
with firefox
[19:34]
macjaegermaybe i will, for the pres tomorrow
but that problem is discussed in bugs tracker
i guess some other people might want it to get solved too :-)
any idea what particular part of code creates that line?
[19:35]
Caarrieif they did would it still be a bug? ;) :P [19:37]
macjaegersure
dead one, though
[19:37]
Caarriehehe [19:37]
macjaegerbut what would you expect? [19:38]
CaarrieCaarrie has no idea [19:38]
macjaegerleaving the windows open, of course you'll have bugs in the house [19:38]
Caarrie:P [19:38]
macjaegerdoes anyone know if lib/fckeditor/editor/_source/fckconfig.js is acutally used? [19:41]
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luciashmacjaeger: it would because on the flash disk would the linux ran ;) [19:41]
macjaegeror is it only there for reference?
i share your appreciation of linux, folks, but i have to run this one on windows tomorrow
[19:41]
luciashgrep for it ;) [19:42]
macjaegeri'll be sharing the presentation laptop with other teachers [19:42]
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luciashah, you have to _proof_ that it runs on windoze ? [19:42]
macjaegermost of them will use powerpoint presentations
no, it's only that one time presentation
the live site of course runs on linux server :-)
[19:42]
luciashhmm, you can run pp presentations in openoffice too ;) [19:43]
macjaeger_i_ can [19:43]
luciashheheh [19:43]
macjaegerbut _i_ am the guest in that case
i have to use whatever windows box they setup for me
well, i guess i'll be carrying my own laptop ... just in case
[19:43]
luciashdo you think they would look weird at you if you reboot their laptop to livecd/flashdisk ? [19:46]
Caarriethey might [19:46]
luciash:) [19:46]
macjaegermaybe i'll just run a pre-recorded screen-capture
*g*
[19:47]
luciashcarrying your own laptop is the best solution i think
LOL
[19:47]
macjaegeryeah, i'll give myself another hour to track down that bugger [19:47]
luciashthat's the safest idea ;) [19:47]
macjaegerthan i'll go for other options [19:48]
luciashthe problem is if you got time to record it still ;) [19:48]
macjaegerrecording a movie is indeed fine idea... i'd not even need to be there tomorrow!
wait
no
i have to
i _must_ for once use that headset mike
:-)
[19:48]
luciash*g* [19:48]
philippebackVMware player
is a good option
[19:48]
macjaegerdoesn't run without install, i guess [19:49]
PS|botSVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14924 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : added back plugin. [19:49]
macjaegeri have about 5 mins of time between presentations [19:49]
lphphilippeback: that plugin you just added seems overly complex to me... why generate javascript to write the link? [19:49]
luciasha fix ? [19:50]
lphphilippeback: also missing the _info function [19:51]
philippebackbecause of <ja<x>vascript/>
security filter
in wiki pages.
[19:52]
lphthat does not explain it [19:53]
philippebackJS plugin doesn't allows it. The security thing broke the old back plugin of marclaporte [19:53]
lphright, but this one does not need to write javascript to write a link... it can just write a link [19:53]
philippebacksee w/ marclaporte
no, not to go back to the previous page like that
try it on 2.x
will not work
[19:53]
lphhum... still does not answer my question... I know what plugins can do, and I don't see why you use javascript inside that plugin to write a link calling javascript [19:56]
philippebackmake a link that does it in wiki text and tell me how then. Asked sylvieg about that but {JS()} was not cutting it even with external files.
you cannot write javascript: in wikitext, it becomes ja<x>vascript:
hence the plugin.
[19:58]
lphnot fighting against the plugin, it's about the implementation [19:58]
macjaegerhehe [19:59]
philippebackno issue. Is this okay for the info_
function wikiplugin_back_info() {
return array(
'name' => tra('Back'),
'description' => tra('Displays a link that allows to go back in the prowser history')
);
}
[19:59]
macjaegersort of did my own workaround [19:59]
philippebackor do I need a parms empty array as well (there are not parms)
how ?
because almost all sites do need this
[19:59]
lphwhy not just return '<a href="javascript:history.go(-1)">' . tra('Back') . '</a>'; [19:59]
philippeback(well, my customer does)
yes
[19:59]
macjaeger(i just added a toolbarset called "Tiki" that copies the "Default" toolbarset...) [20:00]
lphjust {back} will parse in the page [20:00]
philippebackyou mean {BACK()/} or {back} like in a smarty func ? [20:00]
lphlook at other plugins... missing prefs as well [20:00]
philippebackare all of these always required ? [20:01]
lphyeah... {BACK()}{BACK} {BACK()/} and {back} now all do the same
well, they are not required as enforced by code, but adding a pref for the plugin allows people to disable it if they don't want it
[20:01]
philippebackok
function wikiplugin_back_info() {
return array(
'name' => tra('Back'),
'description' => tra('Displays a link that allows to go back in the prowser history'),
'prefs' => array( 'wikiplugin_back' ),
'body' => tra('empty'),
'params' => array(),
);
}
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lphhum... don,t paste code here [20:04]
philippebackok [20:04]
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philippebacksorry [20:04]
lphyou can remove the body line... that ones acts differently when present [20:04]
Caarrie"Don't paste code/errors here, use http://sh.nu/p" << channel topic [20:04]
philippebackthx Caarie
body gone
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lphthen you need to add the pref in lib/setup/prefs.php and add it to magic from db/features.csv [20:05]
luciashphilippeback: s/prowser/browser/ [20:06]
philippebacks//done
from HelloWorld page, it says 2 functions only.
but okay
let's have a look there
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lphfeel free to update the doc... this is new stuff in 3.0 and it's hard to find all the places that mention plugins [20:08]
luciashphilippeback: did you built the js back link because you didn't want to render it at all for browsers with js off ? [20:08]
philippebackIMHO it's okay to do so.
otherwise, a breadcrumb would be needed.
[20:09]
luciashi'm just asking why you used js to build the link [20:09]
lphluciash: awww... you just spoiled the fun there... I wanted to see if it was on purpose [20:10]
luciashlph: LOL, sorry :)
i was wondering if it was on purpose too
[20:10]
philippebackthe thing is that I do need the feature for a customer site. I asked with marclaporte and he had such a thing. Told me it would be good to have this back.
I don't care BTW
so any better idea to do the same thing ?
tell me.
since his thing broke on 2.x
[20:11]
macjaegerha!
chakalaka!
fixed it.
*dancing*
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philippebackwhat to add to db/features.csv ? (I mean values) [20:14]
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philippebackIs this close enough: 1031,"Redirect",913,,"wikiplugin_redirect","flag",,"tiki_p_admin",,,,,," " ? [20:15]
luciashphilippeback: for sure there could be better and better ideas but i think it's good thing that you start and then it can be improved... best would be when JS is off to render regular link to page back from the referrer and so on, but i guess it would be over-complicated then for you
macjaeger: congrats :)
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philippebackREFERER good idea but with the referer thingies in FF it will not cut it much.
like spoofing toolbar
So xxxx,"Back",913,,"wikiplugin_back","flag",,"tiki_p_admin",,,,,," " is ok ? 913 seems to be the parent of plugins. Is it ?
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luciashno idea, it's new to me also [20:19]
PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14925 /trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_help.tpl: [ENH] Display short syntax when plugin has no body [20:19]
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lphuberdeauphilippeback: looks OK (don't know if my last message went through)
I keep getting timed out on wifi... annoying
[20:26]
CaarrieCaarrie handss lphuberdeau a cat 5 cable
*hands
[20:26]
philippebackI see what you meant with the document.write. Removed it. [20:27]
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philippebackleftover from experiments with the {JS()/} thing [20:27]
lphuberdeauI would have that at home, but then I would have no one making food and serving coffee for me [20:28]
Caarriehehe
you mean tw cant do that? :(
[20:28]
lphuberdeauI guess I could set it to order food for me every day [20:29]
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Caarriehehe [20:29]
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philippebackafter {drink()/}, {food()/} [20:30]
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lphuberdeauyour last commit broke it... extra backslashes
I think I know why the network is so unreliable... two networks have the name name and have about the same strenght... keeps switching from one to the other
[20:37]
Caarrie:( [20:38]
lphuberdeauseems like too much network has downsides [20:38]
SEWilco2You need aluminum foil around one antenna? [20:38]
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SEWilco2(not touching antenna -- shield one in your direction. Maybe copper sheet would work better.) [20:39]
lphuberdeauI don't even know where the antena is in this laptop [20:40]
Caarriehidden ;) [20:40]
lphuberdeauhad it for over 3 years [20:40]
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philippebacklph, what to put in the CSV file ? [20:45]
Norrin_RrrHi, when the galleries are stored in the database, and u want to transfer the files to an external directory, is it enough to just set the option in the gallery admin screen to make the files stored in an external directory ? will the existing files be automatically transfered to the new directory ? [20:45]
lphuberdeauphilippeback: there is a problem with the tra() part... tra is a PHP function... not something part of a string
as for the CVS file, you had it right
but basically, you can just copy the last line (which is a plugin), change the values and increment the ID in the begining
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SEWilco2"User tasks" are shareable to members of groups. I'm seeing no groups listed and no way to create such groups. I'm an admin, but I don't see an Admin group listed so don't know what kind of "group" this is. [20:47]
Norrin_RrrIt seems that only the new added files on the gallery are uploaded in the external dir, but the ones that were previously stored in the database stay in the database. How to move them ? [20:47]
philippebackyeah, ok
too tired, will fix this and then call it a day.
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PS|botSVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14929 /trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] : added entry for wikiplugin_back [20:51]
macjaegerNorrin_Rrr, isn't there a button to do just that? [20:52]
Norrin_Rrrmacjaeger, i am in the admin screen for the galleries but i just can set the new external directory, i am searching the magic button, yes. :) [20:53]
macjaegeri thought, i saw one once while configuring [20:53]
PS|botSVN: Commit by philippeback :: r 14930 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_back.php: [FIX] : used tra() properly. [20:53]
macjaegerme too right now [20:53]
philippebackshould be ok now with this damn plugin [20:53]
macjaegerhmm
there is that very button, but only for image galleries
can't see why it shouldn't be there for file gals too :-(
[20:55]
Norrin_Rrrmacjaeger, you are right i found it for the images gals [20:56]
macjaegersorry, i only vaguely remembered. obviously there is no button for file gals... [20:57]
Norrin_Rrrmacjaeger, it seems that the "deplace" thing in the image gals allow moving other galleries as well
let me try
[20:58]
macjaegerlet me know what you find :) [20:58]
SEWilco2If the magic button doesn't appear in Admin>FileGals, try Admin>General. [21:02]
Norrin_Rrrmacjaeger, unfortunatly it is limited to all the image galleries, fought one instant that the choice "all galleries" applied to the other non-image galleries, not. [21:02]
macjaegerdon't fight it, pal :-) [21:03]
Norrin_Rrr(i thought one instant....) [21:03]
macjaeger^^ [21:03]
Norrin_Rrrsorry for my confusion
:)
[21:03]
macjaegernot at all, made me smile
i can do with a little laugh atm
ten hours to go
[21:03]
Norrin_Rrrwell, nothing in Admin->General
so i'am stuck
[21:07]
philippebackdone with this plugin. added some doc to the helloworld page on plugins about info(). Done for the day. At least I now have the SVN thing done and decent understanding on how to document a plugin :-) [21:11]
SEWilco2The next new plugin dev will be the judge of your documentation. :-) [21:12]
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philippebackarf [21:14]
Caarriearf is for dogs ;)
:P
[21:14]
philippebackwell, he will at least not be burned for not having put an info function and a prefs entry ;-)
aft :p
need a walk :-)
[21:15]
Caarriethe dog? :P [21:16]
philippebackme too
see you next time. about midnight here.
[21:16]
macjaegerok, lets summarize:
it took me 25 minutes to find, download and setup a local version of my tikiwiki site
it took me about an hour to fix the windows backslash bug
it took me another two hours to prepare the presentation tomorrow
not windows tells me it will take another 48 minutes to copy the whole damn thing to usb
makes more than four hours work plus the 45 minutes presentation tomorrow for 0
i guess i must be silly to do that work :-/
(btw: now windows thinks it will take 255 minutes...)
[21:18]
Caarrie:O [21:21]
macjaegeri guess, i better grab some coke and cry myself to sleep
cu tomorrow
thanks for listening :-)
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CaarrieCaarrie did some reading but is not sure how much listening she did [21:24]
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SEWilco2info.tw.o says CMS award nominations close in October, but they closed August 25. Needs updating now. September 1-October 20 is voting. http://www.packtpub.com/award_timeline
ricks99: Maybe you're the "Rick" who posted the CMS award article.
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sylvieglphuberdeau_: is there a way to access the admin plugins without a link like tiki-magic.php?featurechain=/1/2/913 - I would like to add it in the menu as it is the only magic non duplicated page
why tiki-magic.php gives has nothing to activate..
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Norrin_Rrrsylvieg, bonsoir :) I would like to thank you (and the others for their work too) for the new 2.x release. I have the impression that a lot of little details have improved, and specially that some of my remarks have been noted and adressed. [22:17]
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sylviegthx Norrin_Rrr :-) But I can not accept - it is a collaborative work - we are all in the same boat
a lot of people work hard - thank to all of them
[22:18]
Norrin_RrrYes this chan is very nice, i have to admit
Yes big thanks to everyone for this significant improvement.
may be half of our mods are obsolete because the admin screen allow to adress the issues directly
[22:20]
sylviegthe admin screen is in a complete redesign ...... [22:22]
Norrin_Rrrbtw, i talked with macjaeger on hour ago or so, about the fact that the files gallery admin screen doesn't allow to displace the files contained by the database to an external dir (like its possible with the image gallery admin screen) [22:24]
SEWilco2SEWilco2 notes that remarks were noted. [22:24]
Norrin_Rrrits possible to set an external dir and news files go there but not to displace the existing ones.
Do you know if there is a workaround as i am asked to displace 60 mega or so of audio .ogg files to an external download dir ?
i use tikiwiki 2.0 btw, haven't tried the 2.1 yet btw !
[22:24]
SEWilco2Doesn't seem anyone has an immediate solution.
You can request a feature (or missing equivalent of image transfer as a bug) on dev.tikiwiki.org.
But it looks like you'll just have to download them all and then upload them again.
[22:31]
sylviegdo not be to excited 2.1 is close to 2.0 except for one mopre security issue [22:33]
Norrin_RrrSEWilco, Yes but if some items are listed in the wiki articles, the reference will change and be broken. no ?
SEWilco, i can fill a missing feature
[22:36]
sylviegreference wil not be broken [22:36]
Norrin_Rrri have to open an account, not sure a simple user like me can fill anything btw [22:36]
SEWilco2Depends whether they are listed by name or by Id. [22:36]
sylviegyes - missing feature - so far I know - I missed up with calendar watch earlier to be careful now
SEWilco2: are you sure?
[22:37]
SEWilco2sylvieg: Oh... because he'll be uploading a duplicate which will replace the original, the links won't break, they'll just start pointing to the file copy? [22:37]
sylviegthere is no name access in fgal [22:37]
Norrin_Rrrfiles are referenced like this: http://www.linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=148
by their number
[22:37]
sylviegyes so names are not important
and whatever they are
[22:38]
Norrin_Rrryes i have to respect the numbering [22:38]
sylvieg(not sure about the wiki attach files - think - to be checked they can be acces by name [22:39]
Norrin_Rrrand since there is a lot of files its too much hassle, i am afraid [22:39]
SEWilco2OK. But at present fileId=148 would be pointing to his DB data, right? Can he upload a new copy on top, and it will be stored in file directory if that's how currently configured? [22:39]
Norrin_Rrrwell it can wait if its possible to improve the admin screen , it has to be done anyway. [22:40]
SEWilco2I don't suppose you're using a Unix/Linux system? [22:40]
sylviegyeh 148 will go to the file or the db data... [22:40]
Norrin_Rrrwe are.
And there is the description of the files anyway
[22:40]
SEWilco2Couldn't "wget" in a script grab copies of the files? You need a wrapper to count through the desired numbers. [22:40]
sylviegguys - check it out - i think that you can mix file/db -.. [22:40]
Norrin_Rrrits too much work to do this manully [22:41]
SEWilco2sylvieg: I think he is mixing them, but needs to move from DB. He didn't say why, but I'd put podcasts in file dir for web server performance reasons. [22:42]
sylviegmissing feature - who takes the challenge? [22:42]
Norrin_RrrSEWilco, we have in fact 70 mega or so audio files in the database [22:42]
sylviegit is already doen for image - it is the same
Norrin_Rrr: is the audio guy
[22:42]
Norrin_Rrron our new web server there is a special 1 go download directory [22:43]
SEWilco2You mean 70 million files, or 70 megabytes of audio? [22:43]
Norrin_RrrAnd we are asked to move our audio files into that dir
SEWilco, :) second choice
[22:43]
SEWilco2How many files, then? Probably a few hundred at most. [22:44]
Norrin_Rrrsorry its late, and i don't even speak french well (my native language)
SEWilco, yes
[22:44]
SEWilco2for i in {1..100}; do; wget http://example.com/something.php?fileId=$i; done [22:45]
Norrin_RrrSEWilco, are you from USA like sylvieg ? [22:45]
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SEWilco2I'm not certain about the "for..do" syntax as I haven't used that brace incantation before.
I found {1..100} in "man bash" under "Brace Expansion".
[22:46]
Norrin_RrrSEWilco, i will try that [22:46]
SEWilco2If you're using Unix/Linux you may have someone who has written shell scripts and can run with the basic idea.
Of course, start with a request for five files.
And quotes may be needed around "http://...fileId=" to avoid shell confusion.
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Norrin_Rrrbut files that are stored in the external directory when u choose this option in the admin screen get a "479415f13fbd31843de24f18b5701f08" like code.
if i put the files directly in that dir after the exctraction ur proposing the database won't be able to associate them with the existing references
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SEWilco2Norrin_Rrr: I'm suggesting fetching the audio files to a separate directory. You'll also have to upload them...although there is a batch upload tool. [22:50]
Norrin_Rrryes but i will have to respect their order
not to break the wiki page that are referencing to them by their ID
And moreover, these files have a description filled by the author and this have to be re-entered too
and it does count that the author's name is respected
[22:50]
SEWilco2One second. [22:52]
Norrin_Rrrso there is no way, i can wait the admin screen does that automagically.
Should i fill a feature request then ?
[22:52]
SEWilco2Yeah, you should fill in the request whether it will be fixed in time for you or not. [22:53]
Norrin_Rrrmay be i can hack myself the file of the admin screen :) [22:53]
sylviegNorrin_Rrr: are your files in db? [22:54]
Norrin_Rrrsylvieg, precisely yes [22:54]
sylviegbig files in db is a bad idea
ok fill a feature request
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Norrin_Rrrthat for this reason i have to move them
they take may be 1/6 of the db size, and people keep adding
[22:54]
sylviegyou are lucky your hosting do not limit the size you can put in a database
s/do/does
[22:55]
Norrin_Rrrand doesn't it lessen the performance ?
i am afraid so
access time isn't that great
were do i feel a request ? dev.tikiwiki.org ?
[22:55]
SEWilco2Yup, dev.tikiwiki.org [22:58]
sylviegI do not think performance are involved - but usually hosting limit POST size so the data in your database are limited - you are a lucky one
and memory consumption - you have a good hosting....
[22:58]
SEWilco2doc.tw.o admin: It would be nice to have a gallery for uploading non-Admin screenshots. I see "User Tasks" page lost its images, and I see no place to upload new ones.
sylvieg: He had good hosting, until someone started feeding audio files out of the database and slowed it down. :-)
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sylviegbbl dinner time [23:02]
Norrin_Rrrbon appetit !
;)
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SEWilco2Norrin_Rrr: You can mention in the request that you probably need something like move_gallery_store()
It looks like that is the image moving piece of code, and that will help whomever wants to work on it.
[23:05]
Norrin_Rrroki
i am just writing it
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SEWilco2Yeah, looks like that piece of code won't be hard to rewrite, but I don't know if the file code is at all similar.
The existing code has too many references to image-specific things to be directly usable, starting with it talking to an "image" table instead of a file table.
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SEWilco2But probably most of the code can be translated to the file environment, whatever that needs. I haven't had to examine that part of the code before.
I just scaned all the code and did not find any functions with names similar to move_gallery_store, which reduces the chance of the needed function already existing.
For me, it's quitting time. Got to get supper and rest up for the collection of updates and backups which I need to do tomorrow. Good luck.
If you need to have someone use scripts to transfer the stuff, be aware the batch upload tool allows filename to be the upload file name...
... so if you save a list of the current file IDs and names, after downloading by ID a script could rename the numeric files to their more descriptive name...
... but that only helps with "name" not "description". At least it may help reduce confusion when manipulating the files.
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Norrin_Rrrhttp://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2052&trackerId=5&show=view&reloff=0&cant=1019&status=o&trackerId=5&sort_mode=created_desc [23:18]
SEWilco2If you have a web crawler programmer around, they might be able to chat with TikiWiki to stuff the desired info in there. [23:19]
Norrin_Rrrmay be, anyway there is no hurry
i can wait a little
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SEWilco2Although you might want to check if there is an "upload new version of this file" icon someplace...if that stores the new upload in file rather then DB then maybe you can use that with "wput".
Good luck.
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Norrin_Rrrthanks for ur help [23:20]
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Maryhello i am having problems pulling up the tiki wiki index php file in my browser and my host refuses to help me what should i do i have been screwing around with this for over 12 hours
hello?
[23:25]
Norrin_Rrrwhat do you mean exactly, are u trying to insall a nex tikiwiki ?
hello Mary
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Maryyes [23:27]
Norrin_Rrroi
oki
[23:27]
Maryi moved the new tiki 2.1 files into a directory on my host sever [23:27]
Norrin_Rrryes [23:27]
Marycantpull them up in browser my host is awful they refuse to help me [23:28]
Norrin_Rrrok [23:28]
Marywhen i click on the file it gives me the url and it does not work why? [23:29]
Norrin_Rrrwhen you open your browser on your site what does it say ?
it there a message ?
[23:29]
MaryInternal Server Error [23:30]
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Norrin_Rrrmay be a problem with php
Your host should allow various settings that's the tricky part
what kind of host is it ?
[23:31]
Marymeaning what
mochahost is my provider
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Norrin_Rrrif u try to host ur site on a basic internet provider, its not sure it will work because they are putting some limitations [23:35]
Marywhat info do you need
to determine
i will link you
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Marywww.mochahost.com
i am ready to cry =[
[23:37]
Norrin_Rrri know its fuckink crazy
:D
[23:39]
Maryi have been trying to install tiki wiki for three days now =[ [23:39]
Norrin_Rrri had a lot of little annoyances like that too :)
are a total beginner ?
[23:39]
Marymy host supplies me with the 1.9 version should i just use that?
pretty much yea
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Norrin_Rrrthe 2.x version is vastly better
you will save yourself another run of trouble upgrading later
[23:41]
Maryi am basing my whole website off this software so need to do it right
what should i do now i am so frustrated
[23:41]
Norrin_Rrryou provider seem ok at first glance [23:42]
Marywhat questions should i ask my host
if you tell me i will ask them
i am paid up for two years with host
so they better be =
[23:42]
Norrin_Rrri think u did the right thing going on this chan
unfortunatly i am not very experienced
[23:43]
Maryi have no where else to go [23:43]
Norrin_Rrrbut i have set a tikiwiki 2.0 on a web server [23:43]
Maryoh is ther not anyone here to help
ricks99?
[23:43]
Norrin_RrrThere are a lot of people helping here usually but its dinner time [23:44]
Marycarrie wont help me i asked her earlier [23:44]
Norrin_Rrrwell i can summup the installation like this
First stage is to reach the tikiwiki install page
it seems u don't see it yet
[23:44]
Maryyes i know
i havent even go ther
got there yet
tikiwiki gave me carpel tunnel =[
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Norrin_RrrThe reason is probably that PHP is not allowed or something like that
this looks very weird to me
[23:47]
Marywhat does? [23:47]
Norrin_RrrSee on your personnal account on this host if there are some settings [23:48]
Maryin cpanel [23:48]
Norrin_Rrrmay be some services are disabled by default
yes
you should have MySQL and PHP
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Maryi acnt even pull up my hosts homepage www.mochahost can you? it says page load erroe
i do
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Norrin_Rrri can reach www.mochahost.com [23:49]
Marycant can they block me? they probably did i ve been annoying them all day oh great =[ [23:50]
Norrin_Rrrweird [23:50]
Maryyea weird
also i use mozilla is that ok?
[23:50]
Norrin_Rrrit should
i use it too but on linux
[23:51]
Marythey have me on linux too [23:52]
Norrin_RrrMary, please note that you will have to create a MySQL database too [23:52]
Maryi did
but havent did anything with it
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Norrin_Rrryes in fact, it is not the cause of ur trouble right now [23:53]
Marydidnt think so
this is so simple it has to be a setting on the hosts side
[23:53]
Norrin_Rrrokay they have apache with PHP extension so everything that u need [23:55]
Maryhow is it possible that i cant access www.mochahost.com [23:55]
Norrin_Rrri don't know
a cockie pbm ?
[23:55]
Maryit says cannont find server cAN they block me by ip?
brb
[23:55]
Norrin_Rrrhave you another browser at hand ? [23:55]

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