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| Koios | hi everyone when i log into the home page it displayes an eror =[ here you can check how do i change it? www.reviewnreport.com | [00:05] |
| macjaeger | well...
that would require us logging in, right? and of course it would require _you_ to enable the wiki first :-) go to your admin panel, and in features activate the wiki | [00:07] |
| Koios | ey mac=]
ok will do well no i want a certain home page that everyone sees to provoke them to register | [00:09] |
| macjaeger | so you are actually referring to the error telling you that your wiki isn't activ?
well, then activating it should fix it, of course | [00:10] |
| Koios | ok let me see | [00:11] |
| macjaeger | now that's better
now you have the default homepage | [00:11] |
| Koios | yes that is better but i dont want the wiki on the top menu =[
hey mac also i wann change the color scheme but keep the theme but when i change the css it does not work | [00:11] |
| macjaeger | the top menu in this layout is acutally the application menu?
do you get rid of the menu at all? or just disable the "wiki" part? | [00:12] |
| Koios | well what is the point to having wiki on the top bar | [00:13] |
| macjaeger | the point is that this bar is a menu, which at the moment only contains one entry | [00:13] |
| Koios | i also need a search bar on there
how can i get a search bar to stay up there permanatly even above the menu bar | [00:14] |
| macjaeger | when you activate more features, like the galleries, you'll get more menus | [00:14] |
| Koios | i know but i only want a search bar no other features | [00:14] |
| macjaeger | take a look at the "look & feel" admin panel | [00:15] |
| Koios | thats it | [00:15] |
| macjaeger | disable the top & bottom bar | [00:15] |
| Koios | how do i | [00:15] |
| macjaeger | either in "look & feel"
or in "modules" i don't know about your particular design | [00:15] |
| Koios | ok i took the menu bar off but still no search bar =[ | [00:16] |
| macjaeger | maybe your design doesn't have one | [00:17] |
| Koios | what are breadcrumbs
=[ | [00:17] |
| macjaeger | hehe
know the story of hensel and gretel? the witch lead them through the woods, but gretel dropped breadcrumps as markers to find her way back? that's breadcrumps showing, where you are a.k.a. a list of last visited pages | [00:17] |
| Koios | oh ok
so to change the colors on theme is not possible? | [00:18] |
| macjaeger | sure this is possible
colors are most certainly somewhere in the css but where to find and how to edit that particular design... no idea | [00:19] |
| Koios | i know edit css it would be simple for me to do but they say it is a tikiwiki bug | [00:20] |
| macjaeger | what... a bug making colors hardcoded?
can't imagine that | [00:20] |
| Koios | when i edit css (i know how to do this) i lose my template code and there is no change of color =[ | [00:22] |
| macjaeger | you edited the /styles/R&R.css | [00:22] |
| Koios | also no f'n search bar =O
yes | [00:22] |
| macjaeger | and that didn't change the look?! | [00:22] |
| Koios | no i lose the css code all together also how did you know i named it R&R | [00:23] |
| macjaeger | it's in your generated page source
and if you "loose css code" then you most probably broke the file maybe mistyped some line then your browser won't use the css, because it doesn't understand the file | [00:23] |
| Koios | no i only altered color code ---#000000 to #45000
not exact color code just example | [00:24] |
| macjaeger | and that broke the whole css? | [00:25] |
| Koios | i am more concerned about the search bar i need one on all pages | [00:25] |
| macjaeger | then, maybe, you broke it on uploading | [00:25] |
| Koios | yes it wiped it clean i had to reload darkroom folders | [00:25] |
| macjaeger | e.g. you uploaded but didn't fix the linux permissions
or you uploaded wrong format whatever | [00:25] |
| Koios | dont know i'll hit ya up with that another day =]loo | [00:26] |
| macjaeger | *g* | [00:26] |
| Koios | what about search bar | [00:26] |
| macjaeger | so this is acutally darkroom, right? | [00:26] |
| Koios | yes | [00:26] |
| macjaeger | sec | [00:26] |
| Koios | with my own banner | [00:26] |
| macjaeger | ok, darkroom doesn't have a build-in top search bar
other styles have, but darkroom doesnt but you can add a search module, i guess | [00:27] |
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| macjaeger | hmm... did you disable both left and right columns? | [00:28] |
| Koios | i have it when logged as admin | [00:28] |
| macjaeger | have what? the search bar? | [00:29] |
| Koios | i did disable left and right do not want them advertisment skyscraper adds will go on left and right eventually
yes admin has search bar | [00:29] |
| macjaeger | well - don't get me wrong - but why would you use tikiwiki if you won't use any of it's features? *g* | [00:29] |
| Koios | i am very unsatisfied with all of the tiki templates and as cool as evryone is here i would expect better you all are very bright | [00:30] |
| macjaeger | anyway... where is your searchbar in admin users display? | [00:30] |
| Koios | this sit is to jsut search for anything and rightin a report and review on it thats it
on the right | [00:30] |
| lphuberdeau | work is being done on templates/css... but it takes time | [00:30] |
| Koios | top right in top menu looks great there would rather in center of top menu | [00:31] |
| macjaeger | hmm... i don't see it in my darkroom | [00:31] |
| Koios | i have someone on my team working on one but will take awhile | [00:31] |
| macjaeger | anyway... if it's there for admin, but not for anonymous, you might need to give the anon group the premission | [00:32] |
| Koios | so there is no smarty code or something to just add a search bar
yes they nee dto search site | [00:32] |
| macjaeger | sure. question is: is there a tiki_p_whatever permission to switch searchbar on/off ?
like "tiki_p_search" | [00:33] |
| Koios | actually only admin has forum too so yea must be a setting | [00:34] |
| macjaeger | try giving that permission to group anonymous | [00:34] |
| Koios | where would i go to change settings | [00:34] |
| macjaeger | go to the admin => groups panel
click the permissions icon for group anonymous scroll down to the tiki_p_search permission grant it do not forget to apply the changes | [00:35] |
| Koios | ok | [00:36] |
| macjaeger | maybe that works
but still i can't see the searchbox in darkroom in my server anyway, i've gotta go take a look into the manuals about configuring your server maybe you'll find something helpfull there | [00:37] |
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| Koios | yes thats it mac=] | [00:39] |
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| Koios | chiba hey i love your darkroom theme but no search bar also cant change the colo www.reviewnreport.com | [00:42] |
| chibaguy | There's a searchbar. Did you activate it on the Look & Feel page?
The colors can be changed by editing darkroom.css, but you have to do it locally and upload the file. The built-in edit-css function is broken at the moment. | [00:44] |
| Koios | ok wow good you are gaonna have to help a lil if ya could =] will you be on in about a hor and a half? | [00:45] |
| chibaguy | yep, but I'm at work, so don't know how active I can be here. | [00:46] |
| Koios | and yes i did activate the searchbar | [00:46] |
| chibaguy | Maybe the topbar menu needs to be activated, too. the search is in the same space. | [00:46] |
| Koios | actually i can do that no prob!
what sucks is i cant see how it will look | [00:46] |
| chibaguy | See http://zukakakakina.com and switch to darkroom theme if you like.
This is the standard look with darkroom. | [00:47] |
| Koios | ok 1 sec
link dead | [00:48] |
| chibaguy | http://zukakakina.com/tiki-index.php
typo | [00:48] |
| Koios | no i dont like it
i need the search bar in the center | [00:49] |
| chibaguy | ok, go for it. | [00:49] |
| Koios | at the very least below my banner
i have to watch this debate will you be on later about hour | [00:49] |
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| chibaguy | 09:46 chibaguy yep, but I'm at work, so don't know how active I can be here. | [00:51] |
| Koios | ok no prob =] | [00:51] |
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| chibaguy | amette, luciash and other tikifestians: I'm coming to Montreal! :-) | [00:54] |
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| lphuberdeau | nice | [01:12] |
| chibaguy | lphuberdeau, looking forward to meeting you and everyone in person. :-) | [01:14] |
| lphuberdeau | when do you arrive? | [01:14] |
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| chibaguy | I'm not exactly sure yet, but don't have much time so probably Wednesday. | [01:15] |
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| lphuberdeau | we won't meet until Saturday then, I will be in the US from Tuesday to Friday | [01:16] |
| chibaguy | ah
you mentioned another conference or something conflicts with first two days? | [01:17] |
| lphuberdeau | yeah, in Atlanta | [01:19] |
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| Koios | how can i place a search bar on my site i checked the box off for all groups but do not see it =[
hey chiba? | [03:58] |
| chibaguy | Koios, did you activate it on the Look & Feel page?
tiki-admin.php?page=look, under General Layout tab: Site Search Bar Activate: | [04:05] |
| Koios | yes i did chiba
i dont know why its not working i also went to group and made it available for all users is it your template? have you heard of this before =[ i wanna cry i am becoming a big cry baby cause of tiki and i am 30 yrs old =[ wah wah | [04:12] |
| chibaguy | Yes, it's my template. No, I haven't heard of that before. Try turning on " Top Bar" on the same admin page. | [04:14] |
| Koios | ok let me see
its turned on sniffle sniffle its such a beautiful template to it is really sad i bet more people would use it you use a lot of nice trasparancy filters on the buttons | [04:15] |
| chibaguy | Mm, not sure what you mean. I didn't use any transparency filters.
Well, the button background image has a gradient. | [04:20] |
| Koios | yes they look good
also any them i put on does not have asearch bar does that mean it is me i love this theme but is just to dark for my site | [04:22] |
| chibaguy | ok | [04:22] |
| Koios | any them i put on my site no search bar is displayed | [04:23] |
| chibaguy | Must be a configuration issue. The searchbar works as expected, normally. | [04:24] |
| Koios | ok well i will have to keep at it
i wish there was some way i could alter the color scheme of this them just slighty meaning replacing the black with white *theme i dont know why i keep spelling it as them | [04:24] |
| chibaguy | You can edit the css, but reversing light and dark is tricky because text/link colors and background colors are specified in quite a few places.
It'd probably be easier to start with a dark-on-light theme, and modify it. | [04:26] |
| Koios | oh i see
but they wont have those nbeautiful buttons=] | [04:27] |
| chibaguy | No, but they're easy to make. | [04:28] |
| Koios | well i dont know how | [04:29] |
| chibaguy | that makes it harder....
plenty of tutorials around, tho | [04:29] |
| Koios | yea
i wish they made a theme editor like myspace has wait a sec can i use css from myspace? sure i can i can use a myspace editor like thomas myspace editor www.strikefile.com/myspace/ no it will be too hard to implement features | [04:30] |
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| hello
anyone i need free tiki support | [04:49] | |
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| Koios | hello
it is 1:30 am eastern i need help | [05:26] |
| chibaguy | Koios, see http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php for Tikiwiki basics.
Also http://doc.tikiwiki.org for more details. Use web tutorials for css, graphics, etc. I doubt if anyone has the time to hand-hold you through the whole thing. If you have specific questions, you can ask of course. Also use the forum at tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php to ask questions to people who aren't on IRC. For more extensive help, site-specific things, maybe you'll need to hire the help. | [05:31] |
| Koios | oh sorry chiba
i will leave | [05:37] |
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| chibaguy | Hmm, did i phrase that wrong?
chibaguy thinks back at the long hours spent wrestling with Tiki stuff and isn't too sympathetic about I need somebody to hand me all the answers right now. but life goes on . . . | [05:37] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14971 /mods/trunk/themes/darkshine/ (35 files in 6 dirs): No log message | [05:45] |
| chibaguy | Damn, forgot the commit message. | [05:45] |
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| Mary | hello I need help I cant get a search bar on my website can someone help me please? | [05:51] |
| chibaguy | Geez, Koios, I thought you weren't going to be Mary any more. | [05:52] |
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| Mary | thanks for blowing my cover chiba it seem i am bothering people in here with too many questions and the manual does not help me with this question
they only help me unless i am a girl you are the only one that helped me when i was a man and you are annoyed with me cause i am using your template | [05:53] |
| chibaguy | No, I'm not annoyed because you're using my template, but I have limited time and you have lots of questions and want to run before you crawl, it seems. | [05:54] |
| Mary | i just want a search bar thats all i need gee wiz | [05:55] |
| chibaguy | It's best to figure out how Tiki works using the defaults, before adding your own graphics and all. | [05:55] |
| Mary | huh i dont want any graphics just a search bar | [05:56] |
| chibaguy | You add a layer of ambiguity by doing that, so I don't really know how to separate config problems from customization problems, etc.
OK, let me back up. This is how my look & feel is set up to get the search bar.... | [05:56] |
| Mary | huh
i dont have any graphics | [05:58] |
| chibaguy | Site Search Bar: Activated. Top Bar: checked (on). (This is on the Look & Feel admin page, General Layout tab). | [05:59] |
| Mary | i just have a top banner that i can take off and still no top banner in fact no of the templates allow me to have a search bar
i have it on i checked like you said | [05:59] |
| chibaguy | Site menu bar: On. | [06:00] |
| Mary | yes
it says site search bar not site menu bar see | [06:00] |
| chibaguy | PhpLayers Dynamic menus is on, on the Admin Features page / UI Enhancements tab. But I don't think this should be necessary. You can try it and see what happens. | [06:01] |
| Mary | ok 1 sec
it didnt but i like what it did it centered the buttons | [06:01] |
| chibaguy | Also, tiki-admin.php?page=features, "Global Features" tab / Search activated. | [06:03] |
| Mary | i cant even see the forum when i am a user and i fixed the group settings | [06:03] |
| chibaguy | Other than that, the permissions have to be right. | [06:03] |
| Mary | k 1 sec | [06:03] |
| chibaguy | That's all the settings I know of. If it still doesn't show, I don't have any ideas. | [06:04] |
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| Mary | yes in global the search feature is checked | [06:04] |
| chibaguy | Something's weird. Turning on phplayers menus should not have caused your page content to be centered. | [06:05] |
| Mary | really
see told ya i read the tutorials a lot can i change my name back to koios now will you still help me? | [06:06] |
| chibaguy | No, I only help women, sorry. | [06:08] |
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| chibaguy | for a second I thought you took that seriously | [06:09] |
| Koios | i didnt get to read it cause i logged out what did you say?
never mind my feelings have been hurt enough already | [06:10] |
| chibaguy | I joked that if you changed back to Koios I wouldn't help you anymore, because I only help women. | [06:11] |
| Koios | oh =] | [06:11] |
| chibaguy | Anyway, I'm comparing your site to another with darkroom and something is messed up there. | [06:12] |
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| Koios | what could it be?
like i said all of the themes dont give me a search bar so it has to be something else | [06:12] |
| chibaguy | No, nevermind. it's ok, the part I thought was messed up is just different because you centered your page content.
What? None of the themes give you a search bar? | [06:14] |
| Koios | oh ok
no none of them | [06:14] |
| chibaguy | chibaguy jumps up and clicks heels because it isn't a theme issue.... | [06:14] |
| Koios | =]
good does that mean it is easier to fix? | [06:15] |
| chibaguy | Can you use the search module? | [06:16] |
| Koios | only as admin | [06:16] |
| chibaguy | Then it seems to be a permission problem. | [06:16] |
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| Koios | and it functions properly
really with what cpanel no admin ok now we are getting somewhere | [06:16] |
| chibaguy | tiki-admingroups.php | [06:17] |
| Koios | like i said even the forum does not show on a user page dont know if that helps
ok going there now | [06:17] |
| chibaguy | click the yellow key icon for Anonymous
Activate tiki_p_search | [06:18] |
| Koios | ok i have admin anonymous and registered permission is 11 than a 0 for registered i though that was wierd
admin is 1 anonymous is 1 registered is 0 let me check where do i find that in anonymous? | [06:18] |
| chibaguy | On tiki-admingroups.php, click the yellow key icon for Anonymous | [06:20] |
| Koios | ok wait we might have it chiba
ok when i click on it and update it it does not update it i did click this before for some reason it is not updating it because when i go back to the screen it is unchecked | [06:20] |
| chibaguy | Maybe you have to clear your caches tiki-admin_system.php | [06:23] |
| Koios | ok now we are getting somewher
ok where is that chiba? now see i clicked on all of the privleagse for admin now they are unchecked | [06:23] |
| chibaguy | tiki-admin_system.php | [06:24] |
| Koios | ok 1 sec
in the same area i checked on all of the admin features not privleages lets see i think that was it 1 sec | [06:25] |
| chibaguy | Actually the Admin Groups (perms) seems a bit strange to me. The number of perms listed for a group doesn't match the number checked on the group's assign-perms page.
...but if it works, I guess that's what counts. I've got a test group with a bunch of perms, but I clicked "update" without making any changes and now the group's perm number is 0, even though it still has all the perms. | [06:29] |
| Koios | 1 sec | [06:31] |
| chibaguy | (not related to your problem, though) | [06:31] |
| Koios | HEY I GOT IT!
so it was something in the admin features i clicked on everything | [06:32] |
| chibaguy | yep, so I see | [06:33] |
| Koios | now i have the search bar WOOOHOOO!
thanks chiba so i guess i'll annoy ya when the next prob comes around ; ) thanks! | [06:33] |
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| chibaguy | Dark Shine theme added to mods, for Tiki 2. Download: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=61 Demo: http://zukakakina.com/Dark+Shine | [06:37] |
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| Koios | Chiba can I ask you one more question/ | [06:50] |
| chibaguy | No need to ask to ask; just ask. | [06:50] |
| Koios | ble to do a search say for mick jagger and if there is no page for that subject i want them to have the ability to write one but how ?
i would like a user to be able to do a search for a subject and if the subject does not have an article i would like them to be able to write one but how? i know its a tough one i have looked everywhere | [06:51] |
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| chibaguy | Is the problem letting users make a wiki page? | [06:55] |
| Koios | yes | [06:56] |
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| Koios | i go to the admin wiki page
do i have to make a template? | [06:56] |
| chibaguy | No, just give the group tiki_p_edit permission. | [07:00] |
| Koios | ok | [07:00] |
| chibaguy | Really, you need to read up on the basics. don't tell me you looked everywhere.
http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php[ | [07:01] |
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| Koios | ok goodnight chiba thank you i wish i was smarter so i didnt bother you as much night! | [07:02] |
| hello i need help i would like users of my website to be able to search for a subject than if the subect is not there they get a template to write about it please help? | [07:10] | |
| help me?
it is 2:46 am eastern help can someone help it is 3:03 am eastern now 3:17 am eastern could really use help =[ | [07:15] | |
| *** | chiba_away is now known as chibaguy | [07:17] |
| Koios | hello
anyone | [07:17] |
| chibaguy | Sorry Koios, I don't have time right now (at work). | [07:17] |
| Koios | ok no pron chiba =]
*prob | [07:18] |
| chibaguy | Your site doesn' have to be done tonight. Why don't you get some sleep. | [07:18] |
| Koios | i will wait until someone else can help me thank you | [07:18] |
| chibaguy | ok | [07:18] |
| Koios | well i tend to sleep during the day sice i started this site
it just reall needs to get done | [07:18] |
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| Koios | i need money
so hello everyone I am looking for assistance any help would be useful it is now 3:19 am eastern | [07:19] |
| hello? =[ | [07:26] | |
| help me! please =[ it is 3:32 am eastern | [07:32] | |
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| Koios | 3:43 am eastern- Koios is in need of assistance please =[ | [07:42] |
| help
hello | [07:47] | |
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| Koios | hello
how are you philippe i need help =[ it is now 3:54 am eastern help me philippeback | [07:53] |
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| Govnor | Hi, I have upgraded to 2.1. I successfully had custom HTML as a home page for over a year. I spent the last three days (over 18 hours) trying to figure out a fix for why my homepage was now destroyed.
I tried literal tags, dynamic content, WYSYWYG, and more. Then I discovered today that HTML has been disabled in newer versions. Unless there is a work around, I am going to have to use an HTML front page. Is there a way to use my modules, such as "sign in box" and "search box" in an external HTML page. | [08:02] |
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| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by pkdille :: r 14972 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [MOD] look admin panel: change bottom bar fieldset structure (delete table) | [08:21] |
| luciash | polom | [08:25] |
| Koios | hello | [08:26] |
| luciash | w00t w00t ! gary is going to tikifest in november ! :) | [08:26] |
| Koios | i need help ? | [08:26] |
| luciash | hi Koios | [08:27] |
| Koios | hey luciash | [08:27] |
| luciash | Koios: are you sure ? | [08:27] |
| Koios | yea
hhere is my site www.reviewnreport.com | [08:27] |
| luciash | doesn't sound so when you ask if you ned help ;) | [08:27] |
| Koios | i need moderators if anyone is intrested but my problem is this | [08:27] |
| luciash | ah | [08:27] |
| Koios | when users do a search for a subject and they find nothing
i want them to be able to make a page on the subject if they want but how? | [08:28] |
| luciash | there should be setting for it iirc
lemme check | [08:34] |
| Koios | ok cool =] | [08:34] |
| philippeback | Koios, I used search but did now saw such a feature. But you can modify the search-results.tpl to a link to a wiki page with the page name being the thing they searched for instead of saying no results found. | [08:36] |
| luciash | Koios: hmm, when i try to go to an unexisting page i get the option, e.g. tiki-index.php?page=XYZ | [08:38] |
| philippeback | I've got a question about trackers. How can I get tiki send me a mail when a new tracker item is created ? I do get one when the status is changes but not when the item is created. Any idea ? | [08:38] |
| luciash | there's link called "Create this page (page will be orphaned)" | [08:38] |
| philippeback | I guess Koios means "when searching" | [08:38] |
| Koios | lol | [08:39] |
| philippeback | So using the URL of luciash with the notfound thing should do the trick. | [08:39] |
| luciash | ah, ok, then this would need to be implemented, right | [08:39] |
| Koios | i am having problems even as admin editing pages | [08:39] |
| luciash | wrong perms | [08:39] |
| Koios | when i click on all of the privleages in groups they dont apply | [08:40] |
| philippeback | But with search, if you search for pages, trackers, faqs etc, it will be difficult to choose... | [08:40] |
| Koios | yes (create this page) | [08:40] |
| philippeback | which kind of object to create. Or defaulting to page | [08:40] |
| Koios | perms? | [08:40] |
| philippeback | so in tiki-search-results.tpl | [08:41] |
| luciash | Koios: when i use search_wiki_page module i also get the link to create page if not found when i have perms (permissions to create wiki pages) | [08:42] |
| philippeback | line 110 in Tiki2
do some magic with {$words} and the url of luciash | [08:42] |
| luciash | it goes to tiki-listpages.php and on the bottom there is "Create Page: XYZ" link
philippeback: no idea to your question, sorry, wait for sylvie, she is tracker expert now ;) | [08:42] |
| philippeback | I am digging the code :-)
also, is there a way to export a tracker's contents as a CSV file ? about when is she in usually ? | [08:43] |
| Paragtim | Has anyone got any experience setting up either maps or google maps with tiki? | [08:47] |
| luciash | some hours later, she's on the america timezone | [08:49] |
| philippeback | google maps yes | [08:51] |
| Paragtim | Hi phillippeback. Is it worth the effort to set up? | [08:56] |
| philippeback | yes, easy to do
one hour max | [08:57] |
| Paragtim | do you have an example I could look at? | [08:57] |
| philippeback | ok, I found my thing with trackers
wait http://www.code-postal-facile.be/wiki/tiki-gmap_usermap.php | [08:57] |
| Paragtim | thank you very much - Time for further invastigation :) | [08:59] |
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| philippeback | definitely. I should do some more work on that site :-)
looks bad | [09:00] |
| Paragtim | How easy is it to add points to the map. In my case looking to add Mobile phone Cell sites? | [09:01] |
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| philippeback | I do not know, I just used the usermap feature.
But you can create your own named map on Google maps So, using the google maps api, you should be able to pick one of your named maps but the googlemaps mod can do more things but once the page is diplayed with the map, clicking on it will create new locations provided you are admin or w/ the proper perm http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mod%20gmap&redirectpage=Google%20page%20map%20plugin | [09:44] |
| Paragtim | Slowly working my way through the docs now. If I can get to add locations to the map it should do what I want, but if it was that easy every one would be doing it ;) | [09:49] |
| philippeback | I tried it and it works fine (was in the 1.9.x)
no it is easy. it's a mod in 1.9.x so, maybe people do not install that by default | [09:49] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14973 /trunk/lib/commentslib.php: [FIX] Repair search in forum queue | [09:51] |
| philippeback | I have a page doing it, the syntax is:
{GMAP(type=>page, width=>400, controller=>none, mode=>normal,changetype=>n,scale=>y)/} Works here: http://www.code-postal-facile.be/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Philippe%20taf I just created the sample location | [09:52] |
| Paragtim | Have installed the mod, set all (map) perms and put code into a wiki page and no display at all. Have a user map in the menu and the map in admin home. Something wrong somewhere | [09:55] |
| philippeback | I guess it has to do with perms or the google API key
do you a an API key ? | [09:55] |
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| Paragtim | Could be - there are no links on the user map to add a position. I think I might strip it out and try again | [09:57] |
| philippeback | hi marc, saw your video on intruders.tv :-)
not ont he user map, on the map as explained with the tag http://www.code-postal-facile.be/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Philippe%20taf this is no usermap but you can only add one place: the place associated with the page so, it is not doing what you want it to do anyway, it is a good start | [09:57] |
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| philippeback | if you can get it to display another map (guess you'll have to hack a bit), you'll have it. | [09:58] |
| Paragtim | If I have read the docs you can associate a page with a marker on the map. If that is right the each location on the map will refer to a wiki page. That should give me what i need. Even better if I can associate each location via a tracker object. Should be lots of scope in this. I'll keep you posted | [10:00] |
| marclaporte | polom | [10:04] |
| luciash | bolow
marclaporte: gary comes, yay ! ;) | [10:06] |
| marclaporte | :-)
this is a-m-a-z-i-n-g | [10:08] |
| philippeback | ok, will be interesting | [10:10] |
| Koios | hey guys i could use some help when ya get the chance
sorry luciash anyone? | [10:21] |
| hello
luciash | [10:34] | |
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| Koios | hello | [10:41] |
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| Koios | hey chiba
r u busy help anyone who is not busy i have a problem 6:53 am eastern govnor? | [10:53] |
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| Koios | r u familiar with tiki
help =[ ihelp me i have problems hello is anyone there? i am in need of assistance 6:58 am eastern anyone who helps me will have free registration to my site! =[ there is like 20 people on here why do you all ignore me i have been on here for hours seeking help =[ I am having a problem! when people do a search on my site for a subject and do not pull up a page i want them to be able to make one please help me =[ I am friendly look =] anyone there? hello? i am gonna get coffee but i will be right back 7:04 am eastern hello i am back! 7:05 am eastern anyone there =[ | [10:54] |
| chibaguy | Koios, I suggest you work on the parts of your site that you can, and don't let one little problem stump you and have you hanging in here for hours. | [11:06] |
| Koios | hey chibaguy goodmorning =} | [11:06] |
| chibaguy | As you work on your site, you'll learn more about Tiki and be better prepared for problems that come up. | [11:06] |
| Koios | did you sleep well
do you have a sec i am having problems when people do a search on my site for a subject and do not pull up a page i want them to be able to make one please help me | [11:06] |
| chibaguy | No, I don't have a sec. | [11:07] |
| Koios | you can have free registration to my site
also i would like you to be a moderator | [11:07] |
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| Koios | are you interested? | [11:08] |
| chibaguy | sorry, no time. | [11:08] |
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| Koios | hello carrie
goodmorning i am having problems =[ thank you for all of your help chiba i wont quit you are right gotta keep going | [11:08] |
| chibaguy | Koios, please take my advice and spend some time working on your site. Skip that parts that cause you problems. If lots of parts cause you problems, find simpler software. Tiki is not simple. | [11:09] |
| Koios | this is my last prob chiba than i am fully fuctional
i am almost there chiba thanks to you you have helped me a lot that is why i want ya as a moderator for my site creat forums blogs whatever you want | [11:09] |
| chibaguy | well, how much do you pay? and in advance i hope... | [11:11] |
| Koios | you can do almost whatever you want build a strong community | [11:11] |
| chibaguy | :-) | [11:11] |
| Koios | no it is just for fun like this
you can build a tiki chat there or a forum whatever you want | [11:11] |
| chibaguy | Heh, I already have lots of that kind of fun, thanks. | [11:11] |
| Koios | we have a chance to make a real impact on people like wikipedia but with personality
i need a strong team with me people like you and caarrie | [11:12] |
| Govnor_ | Hi, Nathan from ModernSciFi.com here. I have upgraded to 2.1. I successfully had custom HTML as a home page for over a year. I spent the last three days (over 18 hours) trying to figure out a fix for why my homepage html is now destroyed.
I tried literal tags, dynamic content, WYSYWYG, and more. Then I discovered today that HTML has been disabled in newer versions. Unless there is a work around, I am going to have to use an HTML front page. Is there a way to use my modules, such as "sign in box" and "search box" in an external HTML page? | [11:13] |
| Koios | build a tiki section make chat room forum whatever you want calander with events like set classes to teach people online in chat | [11:13] |
| chibaguy | Koios, put up a page on your site that describes your vision, goals, means, etc. People can check it out.
They can also check out your site to see if it looks like it has potential. | [11:14] |
| Koios | where on this site cool thanks chiba! =]
guess what chiba =[ you have to help me do that too lol just let me know on what oage and where (link me up) i'll put it up | [11:14] |
| chibaguy | On _your_ site.
Read what I wrote. | [11:15] |
| Koios | maybe it would be better if you do it (i am being serious) not lazy i will elaborate more on my home page you can copy paste the text?
on my site i do have that on the home page why cant i put something on here no good =[ ok no prob i dont wanna look for moderators like that i want people that are knowlegable and kind hearted mainly people like you guys on here give you a lil more freedom starting your own forums and chatrooms whatever you want | [11:16] |
| chibaguy | It should be on your site, because it's about your site IMO. If I wanted to write up a vision for a web site, it'd be my vision for my site. Your site: your vision. You have to do it. | [11:18] |
| Koios | can i ask ya chiba seriously what is your affiliation with wiki you seem awfully knowledgable\
reviewnreport.com i listed on the home page some of my goals www.reviewnreport.com I have to admit the theme has grown on me but i am worried it is to dark for others i might stay with it do you think i should chiba please be biased i know its your theme | [11:19] |
| chibaguy | Congratulations on editing your wiki page. | [11:22] |
| Koios | thanks it was really all you
i havent done much with it actually the last piece is people being able to search for a subject and when there is no page on it they get a template that lets them make one that is the help i need | [11:24] |
| chibaguy | somebody made a suggestion about that already. you could try to work with that. | [11:25] |
| Koios | so its basiaclluy a wikipedia that people can leave comments on
huh? this---- Koios, put up a page on your site that describes your vision, goals, means, etc. People can check it out. | [11:25] |
| chibaguy | About the search, etc. Check back in the discussion. | [11:26] |
| philback|away | Koios, I told you where to do that | [11:27] |
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| philippeback | search-results.tpl
l 110 | [11:27] |
| chibaguy | Anyway, I gotta go for a while. Again, I suggest you put some time into the site, come back later to any problems, show some substance there before asking for moderators, etc. | [11:27] |
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| philippeback | and link to tiki-index.php?page={$words} | [11:27] |
| Koios | hey philbackk i didnt see
ok chiba cya | [11:27] |
| philippeback | well {$words} may be overkill if people search for 2 terms | [11:28] |
| Koios | overkill 2 terms oh i see | [11:28] |
| philippeback | 10:41 in my list. 13:28 now.
so, 3 hours ago | [11:28] |
| Koios | yea well first thing is first if you do a search for (dog ) and nothing comes up i need the page to say hello there isnt a page yet wanna write one that is what i need
can you help phil | [11:29] |
| philippeback | well, when you do a search, the page that is called is : tiki-searchresults.php
this page then uses templates/tiki-results.tpl on line 110 in the .tpl file, this is where the "no results" section is | [11:30] |
| Koios | wait phil i am a newbie | [11:30] |
| philippeback | so in there, put something like: | [11:30] |
| Koios | ok i can write in the text but what about them going to be able to edit | [11:31] |
| philippeback | so just put just give edit rights for wiki pages
and no problem the link could read: <a href="tiki-index.php?page={$words}">Tell us more about {$words}</a> | [11:31] |
| Koios | ok i will try | [11:32] |
| chibaguy | Govnor_, sorry but some security sanitizing was done for Tiki 2.0 and 2.1. I don't know if that affected Tiki HTML pages. | [11:32] |
| philippeback | maybe you will have to use smarty's {$words|htmlescapeall}
HTML pages do work except all javascript is turned into <ja<x>vascript> I think | [11:32] |
| Koios | i am not sure about all that trying to edit text now | [11:34] |
| philippeback | Well Koios, the site looks good, get this done so that I can give it a shot :-) | [11:35] |
| Govnor_ | Version 2 has no love for my html code, so I was just going to create a purely html front page and then link to my wiki pages. Can I use my modules for sign in, search, etc. in an external html web page? | [11:35] |
| Koios | hey do i edit text in cpanel or wiki | [11:35] |
| philippeback | directly on your hosting account, use FTP to get the file, edit, put it back. | [11:36] |
| Koios | phili register i will make you a moderator so you can work with some things
oh ok 1 sec | [11:36] |
| philippeback | no way to change these things safely through the panel
but why not try | [11:36] |
| Koios | no i will ftp
what folder is it in? | [11:37] |
| philippeback | login box broken on IE7, text below logo
templateS/ | [11:37] |
| Koios | ok | [11:38] |
| chibaguy | Govnor_, as far as I know, the modules won't display right outside of Tiki templates, etc. | [11:40] |
| philippeback | Koios, I am registered as phiba on your site | [11:40] |
| Koios | ok
1 sec | [11:40] |
| philippeback | "A mistake is simply another way
of doing things." | [11:41] |
| chibaguy | Easiest fix would be to take care of the javascript sanitization. I'll post a bug report and ask around, etc. | [11:41] |
| Koios | lol i am trying to put ya as moderator 1 sec | [11:43] |
| philippeback | Koios, CSS for the "search" in the top menu is not nice | [11:43] |
| Govnor_ | Chiba, was that comment directed at my issue? One note. In version 1.9, the html that I brought in looked fine in a preview, but then went bad on a save.
Is there any way to insert html in a fashion that will work, besides the WYSYWYG? | [11:43] |
| philippeback | not the same look as the others on mouseover
Govnor_ you can always make a plugin that will output the HTML without filtering. ugly but quick | [11:43] |
| Govnor_ | what kind of plug-in? I'm not much of a programmer.
I tried it with dynamic content and I tried with modules. Can I put it in a text file on my server and point to it somehow? | [11:45] |
| Koios | ok phillipe you are a moderator now
css for the search is not nice i dont understand phillipe what were you saying and was it that you wanted to be a moderator phillipe or no? | [11:46] |
| philippeback | yeah ok for moderator | [11:50] |
| Koios | i sure could use the help as far as building forums and such | [11:50] |
| philippeback | Just mouse over the top menu, you'll see that "search" is not like the other options and that it makes the menu move by one pix or two
wait | [11:51] |
| Koios | oh i want the search off of the horizontal menu
i like the boxes not the button no articles is buggy i want that f'n off too 1 sec ok better you were right i didnt even notice what about a chatroom phil i have been having a hard time with that? i want a chatroom on there also let me know if i should remove privleages for moderators and registereed users i just dont want someone screwing up the site if they get mad at me or something | [11:51] |
| philippeback | hey man, get the search done. Not everythign at once. I am also busy :-) | [11:57] |
| Koios | search? oh ok
working on it phil what did you mean about the search? | [11:58] |
| philippeback | Govnor, I've got a thing that will work for you
http://trionis.code-postal-facile.be/tiki-index.php?page=TestStuff Govnor, put http://sh.nu/p/24962 in lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_htmlfile.php To insert the HTML file in a wiki page: SAMPLE BEFORE {HTMLFILE(filename=>somehtml.html)}{HTMLFILE} SAMPLE AFTER works guys, I love this universal edit button feature in Tiki ! | [12:03] |
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| FoxIII | Hey all. | [12:17] |
| Govnor_ | PHILIPPEBACK : Does it matter where I put the code in the wiki-plugin? Can I just insert it above the existing text in that file? | [12:17] |
| FoxIII | I'm trying to get the adsense plugin working. I have installed it and entered the information, but how do I display the ads on the pages? TIA | [12:17] |
| Govnor_ | PHILIPPEBACK: I don't see that I have that file, so I will be creating it. | [12:20] |
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| Koios | hey i found that file phillipe what now? | [12:31] |
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| Govnor_ | PHILIPPEBACK: You are the new saint of the sci fi world. I have worked for 4 days straight on this one problem. Thank you so much. It did work. If you want to see your handy work, go to ModernSciFi.com.
Is there an easy fix for getting rid of the numbers on the featured links? Thanks again. I can't tell you how much this will help. I won't even have to cut and paste in the code into my wiki now! The new updates to the html file will be instant. You're awesome! | [12:42] |
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| Koios | sylvieg hey
i finally have the site up and kinda fuctioning www.reviewnreport.com do you have a minute | [12:43] |
| philback|busy | yeah, make my day :-)
I love scifi BTW | [12:49] |
| Govnor_ | Thank you. Keep an eye on ModernSci Fi.com. I believe at the moment it is the largest Independent Sci Fi website on the Internet, and I am happy to have built it on the tiki wiki structure. | [12:51] |
| philback|busy | Govnor, I think this plugin is useful to avoid messing with all this HTML junk we have to deal with inside wiki pages.
just go the module and remove the number from the template with a smarty {* *} comment | [12:51] |
| Govnor_ | It works great and to be honest with you, I prefer my html editor over the built in WYSYWYG. Mine is true drag and drop. It's a thing of beauty.
What do you mean exactly? | [12:53] |
| philback|busy | in fact, I had a look in the module
there is an option $nonums which will be selecting <ol> or <ul>. If set properly, you'll get <ul> without numebrs wait in my tiki, featured link do not have numbers which editor do you use ? seems to be changed in tiki 2 | [12:54] |
| Koios | r u still busy phil? | [12:57] |
| philback|busy | add a parm nonums=y to your module settings in admin > modules > assigned modules > featured links > edit
in parameters, put: nonums=y shoudl do the trick | [12:58] |
| Koios | hey phil? | [12:59] |
| philback|busy | Koiois, yes, I am, just getting back to this damn IRC window... damnit
I've got to give a course on monday and I've not done my slideware yet... | [12:59] |
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| Koios | sorry =]
i still have that prob | [13:00] |
| philback|busy | which ? | [13:00] |
| Koios | when they search for a subject and dont get anything i want the default page to say lets make one | [13:01] |
| philback|busy | damn, I told you how. | [13:02] |
| Koios | i checked that file
i cant edit it | [13:02] |
| Govnor_ | I use Site Spinner V2 , by Virtual Mechanics to edit my HTML. Not free, but pretty inexpensive ($49 I think.) and it fits my needs. I bought it years ago, before I discovered open source.
And yes, when I upgraded to Tikiwiki V2, the numbers on the featured links showed up by default. I never did find a way to remove them. I will try your suggestion. Thank you. | [13:02] |
| philback|busy | why not koios
? | [13:03] |
| Koios | because of what file it is | [13:04] |
| philback|busy | BTW, one more tiki site ready for launch: http://trionis.code-postal-facile.be/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
told you templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl | [13:04] |
| Koios | also they need to be able to edit it from that page
yes i found it how do i edit it and put a template on it wait thats not where it is you need to tell me another folder from that point oh wiat a sec | [13:05] |
| philback|busy | its there man | [13:07] |
| Koios | yea i got it | [13:07] |
| philback|busy | maybe /public_html/templates/
which tiki version ? 1.9 ? 2.x ? | [13:07] |
| Koios | i dont know how to edit give me a sec
2.1 | [13:07] |
| philback|busy | get yourself a PHP editor with FTP capability, like PhpEd or similar | [13:07] |
| Koios | how do i edit that what do i open with | [13:08] |
| philback|busy | notepad will do | [13:08] |
| Koios | free? | [13:08] |
| philback|busy | are u on win on Lunux ?
Linux not free but 30 day eval | [13:08] |
| Koios | oh i have notepad
linux | [13:08] |
| philback|busy | ok | [13:08] |
| Koios | i am win hosted linex | [13:08] |
| philback|busy | vim then or nano or pico
ok so, notepad++ is nice too (free) | [13:08] |
| FoxIII | If you're using kde, kate is good as it has syntax highlighting. | [13:09] |
| philback|busy | otherwise, hardcore, get vim and the extensions for PHP editing, autocomplete etc | [13:10] |
| Koios | ok what about them being to edit right there they need to be able to make a page when no results are displayed | [13:10] |
| philback|busy | http://www.scribd.com/doc/263139/VIM-for-PHP-Programmers (cool stuff, but get ready to train your fingers)
so line 110 | [13:11] |
| Koios | me? i am a newbie | [13:11] |
| philback|busy | copy your contente here http://sh.nu/p/
so that I can see | [13:11] |
| Koios | lol | [13:11] |
| philback|busy | then I can change an repost
so you can copy/paste/upload and chekc | [13:12] |
| Koios | oh thank god | [13:12] |
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| Koios | ok 1 sec | [13:12] |
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| Koios | i posted it is that good
dude you are a fuckin geek! & i'm lovin it ! thanks so much =] | [13:13] |
| philback|tiki-fu | ok, you've got the 1.9 version of tiki, is it ? | [13:14] |
| Koios | no 2.1 | [13:15] |
| Govnor_ | PHILBACK: I entered the nonums=y parm in the featured links module and when I hit preview, it still shows it with numbers. Where else would it be getting a default command to add numbers? | [13:15] |
| Koios | can you make it say this | [13:15] |
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| philback|tiki-fu | http://sh.nu/p/24965 for Koios
this is the end of the file, just get the lines you need should work tell me what it gives | [13:18] |
| Koios | There has not been any results for your search, so congratulations your the first! | [13:18] |
| philback|tiki-fu | yeah, put whatever f*cking sentence you are confortable with | [13:18] |
| Koios | lol =] no link phil
can you link me | [13:19] |
| philback|tiki-fu | ok my mistake,
wait | [13:20] |
| Koios | you have to make your own lil corner on my page man a forum or something | [13:20] |
| philback|tiki-fu | that would be better
http://sh.nu/p/24966 | [13:21] |
| Koios | very knowledgable | [13:21] |
| philback|tiki-fu | experience is the result of hours of painful suffering with the beast
happy to help tiki is very powerful and geek-friendly, not like other things I also do Java programming and damn, what a pain works ? Govnor for a quick fix | [13:21] |
| Koios | you def have skills give me a min i'll let ya know | [13:23] |
| philback|tiki-fu | check templates/modules/mod-featured_links.tpl
just change {if $nonums != 'y'}<ol>{else}<ul>{/if} into <ul> and put a {* comment *} around the original line. this would be it Govnor: http://sh.nu/p/24967 ul and /ul philback|waiting | [13:23] |
| Koios | so phil i just copy paste that into the folder and than ftp it on the site thats it?
i dont do anything else will it have a basic template for them to make a page? cause there is a lot less script so do i add on top of the original or what | [13:29] |
| Govnor_ | I changed the file and it still has numbers showing., wether i add the param or leave it blank. My original template didnt have the SECTION tag. | [13:31] |
| philback|tiki-fu | no, I just gave you the end
clear the template cache | [13:31] |
| Koios | ok
sorry man i am a step by step guy very poor skills | [13:31] |
| philback|tiki-fu | there you go Koios: http://sh.nu/p/24968
full working now Govnor ? We shoudl integrate this into tiki: http://printwhatyoulike.com/ | [13:32] |
| Govnor_ | Not yet. No numbers now, but they turned to bullets. | [13:36] |
| philback|tiki-fu | that's right
you want nothing ? then you'll have to do some CSS or amend the tpl further CSS ? | [13:36] |
| Govnor_ | yes, nothing. | [13:36] |
| philback|tiki-fu | what's your site still ? url
I'll have a look | [13:37] |
| Govnor_ | I don't understand why this feature was changed.
ModernSciFi.com It's not horrible. I could live with the bullets. It might actually draw more attention to that list. I just got used to no numbers or bullets for the whole time I have used tiki wiki, (over 1 year) | [13:37] |
| Koios | hey phil i cant copy paste that file
how can i alter the file i got it | [13:40] |
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| philback|tiki-fu | Govnor, add the contents of http://sh.nu/p/24969 to the end of boreal.css
it will do the trick install webdeveloper toolbar and firebug in firefox | [13:45] |
| Koios | no good phil #1 it does not stay with darkroom theme #2 opens in a new window #3 does not have edit area where the user can make the page for the search go check and see | [13:46] |
| philback|tiki-fu | then inspect an item, get the Edit CSS window of Webdev toolbar and then get things neat, it's very easy
let me see | [13:46] |
| Koios | ok | [13:46] |
| philback|tiki-fu | it partially works but you have an issue with the HTML
mail me the file: phil@highoctane.be will be easier | [13:47] |
| Koios | yea i am looking for a page that when no reesults are dispalyed the user can make one right there so it is easy for them ya know
ok | [13:48] |
| philback|tiki-fu | but the not found words are there, so this is just a typo | [13:48] |
| Koios | yea e mailed it to ya
do ya know what i mean by when that no results page comes up the user can actually just write the relevant info right there and submit it | [13:51] |
| philback|tiki-fu | hey Govnor, http://c64s.com/ should be on your page !
Govnor, it works! | [13:52] |
| Koios | brb phil | [13:54] |
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| Govnor_ | Yes, it did work. Thank you again. I suppose I can push the list links left by changing the code in the /modules/mod-featured_links.tpl | [14:00] |
| philback|away | well, left would maybe better be done in the css
-20 -3° -40... also, you should do a favicon.jpg that reflects your site like a saucer favicon.png sorry http://www.iconarchive.com/show/transport-icons-by-aha-soft/UFO-icon.html store in place of favicon.png in the root html better than a tikiwiki icon | [14:00] |
| Govnor_ | I've never tried one before. But I just made a note to look into that. You're right. That would be cool.
I'm checking into the c64s.com as well. Thank you. Did you see that we have a sci fi games section. You should take a look at it. | [14:04] |
| philback|away | k
am listening to your orson welles show kindof vintage+ | [14:09] |
| Koios | hey phil same deal thanks but your not gonna belive it but i just did it i mixed one file with the other and got it =} thanks so much man anyway ! | [14:11] |
| philback|away | send me the code by mail, just to see
no issue glad to help this would be my contributive day of the week ;-) | [14:12] |
| Govnor_ | Cool. I uploaded the favicon in place of the existing one, I the root directory. It doesn't show on the web browser or when I drag the url to the desktop. I should see it there, right?
I can click on it in cpanel and it will open up and show in a brwser, so i knows its there. It is named favicon.png Do I have to activate it in tikiwiki? | [14:13] |
| mj|away | no, browsers should actually look for it for themselfes | [14:14] |
| philback|away | refresh
wait | [14:14] |
| mj|away | refresh, or even restart the browser (if it's firefox, don't forget to close "downloads" to _really_ restart it) | [14:15] |
| Koios | hey phil the only thing i need now is a way for the user to insert a photo on the same page | [14:16] |
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| philback|away | NOW OK
icon wow, dude, I am off on this one :-) hey cool govnor :-) | [14:16] |
| macjaeger | koios, where do you want to add the image?
in a wiki-page? | [14:17] |
| philback|away | Govnor, speaking of the past, this is one of my favorites. I should do a remake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wU3-fbaF0 | [14:18] |
| macjaeger | there are actually a number of ways to do this, depending on what features you have active... the image may come from file- or image-galleries, or be uploaded to the wiki-up-folder by the wysiwyg editor | [14:18] |
| Koios | hey mac when someone searchs for a subject and there is no page for the subject yet i need the no results page to have a editor on it so they can make it right there | [14:18] |
| macjaeger | oh, that page
that is no usual page, so none of the above applies again i'm lost there, sorry | [14:19] |
| Govnor_ | You are showing your age. That's alright. I'm there with you. | [14:21] |
| philback|away | 1983 man, that's quite far ;-) | [14:21] |
| Koios | mac & philgo to my page www.reviewnreport.com now search for a word and see how that screen comes up with an editor wellthats what i want what i dont want is how it screws my home page up | [14:22] |
| philback|away | has to play on the machine of my neighbor. I had a Trash80 Coco I... | [14:22] |
| macjaeger | hmm...? 1983 was when i got my first c64 | [14:22] |
| Koios | forget it i gotta change it | [14:22] |
| macjaeger | was when i got my first girlfriend as well
what a year of difficult choices... :-) | [14:22] |
| philback|away | I was 13 or so | [14:23] |
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| macjaeger | yepp, me to | [14:23] |
| philback | we have come a long way since then.
I would have the same machines as we do have now and open source, man, it would have been great. | [14:23] |
| Koios | guys no dice phil | [14:24] |
| philback | (I sound like an old fart, damn!) | [14:24] |
| macjaeger | growing up with 300baud to see the internet become alive... yeah, i wouldn't have chosen a different time if i could | [14:25] |
| philback | indeed I also had these 300 | [14:25] |
| macjaeger | (we _are_ old ... well, whatevers!) | [14:25] |
| philback | but now I am somewhat richer :-) | [14:25] |
| macjaeger | koios, i don't see the editor you mentioned?
hmm... so you don't have kids, right? *g* | [14:25] |
| Koios | phil when i copy pasted (wikiedit) underneath the tikiresults code i got the results i wanted except that when i did that it screwed up my home page too it put a page editor on it | [14:26] |
| macjaeger | they made my life richer, ok, but surely not my purse | [14:26] |
| Koios | i know i took it off cause you couldnt even navigate around | [14:26] |
| philback | Well, for me you have to put a link and not the editor there. | [14:26] |
| Koios | on my results page mac (when there are no results) i want to have a page editor right there so the user can make a page on that subject | [14:27] |
| philback | well, married 2 times. But no kids. My wife is a teacher and psychotherapist, so there are always kids in the house... from 3 to 22. But not mine. | [14:27] |
| Koios | ok i will take a link than phil | [14:27] |
| philback | would be better Koios | [14:27] |
| macjaeger | you _want_ to have a editor there? i thought you wanted it to go away... | [14:27] |
| philback | Anyway, see you people | [14:27] |
| Koios | no i want the editor on the (no results page) but not on all of the pages | [14:28] |
| macjaeger | cu, phil | [14:28] |
| Koios | later phil | [14:28] |
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| macjaeger | ok, now i see what you want | [14:28] |
| Koios | so if you search for the subject dog & no one has made one yet i would like it to say sorry no results but make the page below | [14:28] |
| macjaeger | you could add the quickedit module there | [14:29] |
| Govnor_ | Philback: If your still here, thanks again. I'll work the favicon until it works. I like the idea. I'm 39 myself. Thanks again. You have been most helpful. Time for bed. | [14:31] |
| Koios | yes mac
if you look at my page again i added text i would like a module right below the text but do not know the code | [14:31] |
| macjaeger | well, now you only have to find a way to put it there :-) | [14:31] |
| Koios | i am trying | [14:32] |
| macjaeger | there is a {plugin}] tag | [14:32] |
| Govnor_ | Hey, I just cleared cache and little favicon decided to show. Cool. | [14:32] |
| Koios | i can get it on there but it gets displayed on all pages of my website | [14:32] |
| macjaeger | what are you editing? the page template? | [14:32] |
| Koios | tiki search results file
yes in template | [14:33] |
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| Koios | tikiwiki-2.1templatestikisearchresults
wikiedit as the module | [14:34] |
| ricks99 | hi all
:) | [14:35] |
| Koios | hey rick | [14:35] |
| ricks99 | hi Koios | [14:36] |
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| Koios | you still wit me mac? | [14:40] |
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| macjaeger | [16:40] <Koios> you still wit me mac? <-- nope, sorry, i've been called to the door, had to band-aid my son... silly one tried to jump over the hedge, landed right in it, got scratches all over the arms from the thorns...
have to go again, i fear... | [15:05] |
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| ricks99 | q: in 3.x, when previewing a wiki page, the section edit icons appear in the preview? is this by design? will some users get confused by seeing another edit icon for something they're already editing? | [15:10] |
| sylvieg | should not . or at least have no link | [15:17] |
| ricks99 | thats what i would have thought | [15:18] |
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| GillesMM | where are located the users passords ? I don't see them i users_users .... | [16:32] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99: Some users would get confused by preview including edit icons, while some users would be confused by preview not showing edit icons (and thus not being an accurate preview).
GilesMM: tiki_users? Hmm.. no, tiki_users is empty in my DB. | [16:33] |
| ricks99 | @GillesMM: in users_users | [16:36] |
| GillesMM | the records password are empty in users_users
strange | [16:37] |
| SEWilco2 | I see users_users has a "hash". Maybe that's the password. | [16:37] |
| ricks99 | in "password" field, if "store as plaintext" -= y
in "hash" field otherwise yes | [16:37] |
| GillesMM | ok
thanks | [16:37] |
| ricks99 | @SEWilco2: sorry, i disagree. my users are clicking the EDIT button in the PREVIEW. :(
imho, the preview should be a static page im also seeing the same issue when a {TRACKER} form is in a page. on preview, the form is 'live' and users are trying to enter data in the form from the preview :( | [16:37] |
| SEWilco2 | ricks99: Your users are apparently members of the first group. It would be a good idea to not have links on the previewed EDIT buttons.
Of course, having unlinked icons would produce people who are confused why clicking on the icon does nothing. But if edit icons are not in preview, you can't preview where icons end up (such as by being moved by images). | [16:38] |
| ricks99 | that and i'd like to see the preview better identified as a "preview." on my sites, i use a border around the entire DIV of the preview and shade the background
isnt the edit icon always flush right of the heading? when using section edit? | [16:40] |
| SEWilco2 | SEWilco2 liked the copy machine overlay which put a large COPY diagonally across an entire page.
ricks99: Images from a preceding section seem to move icons down. | [16:41] |
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| ricks99 | hmm... hadnt noticed | [16:42] |
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| SEWilco2 | ricks99: Yeah, TW users aren't too active with images. Create a section with a bunch of images to the right of the text, so the images spill below that section. Following sections' EDIT icons are pushed down. | [16:51] |
| ricks99 | ah.... maybe section EDIT icons should be closer to the actual heading? | [16:54] |
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| SEWilco2 | ricks99: I think EDIT icons are defined near the headline. I think browsers are shuffling all the images around. That's their job, but sometimes they get confused.
"IM IN UR SANDBOX, SHUFFLING UR IMAGES" Ick. I inserted a bunch of imalign=right width=200 images. First batch was stairstepped next to a bunch of blank lines (end of line after {img} is not deleted)... | [17:00] |
| ricks99 | y, they're defined with a float: right. maybe they should simply be directly after the heading | [17:04] |
| SEWilco2 | ...and the rest of the text is squeezed way to the left so as many images as possble can fit. Would generally be better for images to be stacked one atop each other on the right. | [17:04] |
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| SEWilco2 | ricks99: I see what you mean about the edit icon. The intent is to make edit icon be unobtrusively on the right, but that causes it to float with all other images.
My Firefox 3 ends up painting some edit icons over the narrow left-squeezed text. | [17:05] |
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| SEWilco2 | I don't know CSS well enough to know if that's where one-float-image-at-a-time can be controlled. | [17:07] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14979 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]sqllog: a clean button | [17:08] |
| SEWilco2 | h2 heading
Nullam mi. Praesent vehicula consectetuer tortor. Mauris venenatis leo at metus. Ut sit amet enim. Aenean tortor orci, hendrerit a, eleifend quis, pharetra eu, felis. I ended up with the text so narrow that "Mauris" was at end of second line, with two edit icons over it. | [17:08] |
| ricks99 | awful long heading... | [17:10] |
| SEWilco2 | "h2 heading' is the heading. | [17:10] |
| ricks99 | o | [17:10] |
| SEWilco2 | The preceding section begins with 18 lines, each with an {img}, so it then looks awful.
I inserted images into a copy of the themes.tw.o test wikitext. | [17:11] |
| Koios | guys i need a code for a page edit module ! | [17:18] |
| ricks99 | huh? | [17:20] |
| SEWilco2 | Dial 42 on your coder ring. | [17:21] |
| Koios | i need to be able to edit pages i want that module on a no search results page so users can write about it | [17:21] |
| SEWilco2 | You want comments on the search results page?
No, wait.. you want comments on the no search results page? | [17:21] |
| ricks99 | you want to exclude a specific page from the search results? | [17:22] |
| PS|bot | SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14980 /trunk/lib/setup/cookies.php: notice | [17:23] |
| Koios | no here is my site www.reviewnreport.com
when you do a search for say dog (there isnt a page for it yet) so when it displays no results i want there to be a edit module so you can write a page | [17:26] |
| ricks99 | o... why not simply include the quick edit module (preloaded with the search string as the page name)? | [17:29] |
| Koios | i dont understand can you link me | [17:30] |
| ricks99 | will require some customization.
edit the tiki-searchresults.tpl in the "no results found" section of the {IF}, simply include the quick edit module | [17:30] |
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| ricks99 | actually... an even easier way.... | [17:32] |
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| ricks99 | this feature already exists if you attempt to access (for example, direclty or via a link) a wiki page that does not exist. | [17:32] |
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| ricks99 | look at @error.tpl, ~line 62
you can simply take that and copy it to your search results page | [17:32] |
| Koios | hey guys i have it on my page when you search but there is no submit bitton look www.reviewnreport.com
can you link me rick | [17:33] |
| ricks99 | you're tyring to add the entire edit module. would be easeir to simply ahve a link
look at this link: http://www.reviewnreport.com/tiki-index.php?page=dog | [17:34] |
| Koios | ok can you give me the link where i can copy post | [17:35] |
| ricks99 | this would be much easier to replicate | [17:35] |
| Koios | *paste
it wont be as nice =] | [17:35] |
| ricks99 | i don't know. a simple. CREATE THIS PAGE link?
much (much) easier | [17:35] |
| Koios | what about the link rick its my site did you search 4 dog | [17:35] |
| ricks99 | y. but try this instead http://www.reviewnreport.com/tiki-index.php?page=dog | [17:36] |
| Koios | you can see i can add a module | [17:36] |
| ricks99 | do you see... the page doesn't exist, so tiki includes a link for you to create it | [17:36] |
| Koios | oh i see
yes how did you do that? | [17:36] |
| ricks99 | automatic. if you want to add it to your search results page, very easy.
simply copy the line (i think line 62) from error.tpl into searchresults.tpl | [17:37] |
| Koios | ok hang on
what error thp is it error tpl | [17:37] |
| ricks99 | in my 2.x tiki, it is error.tpl, line 62 | [17:40] |
| Koios | k
line 62? what is the first few words | [17:40] |
| ricks99 | search for: {tr}Create this page{/tr} | [17:42] |
| Koios | man can you copy paste in here for me or private message it to me
it says page will be orpahned orphaned | [17:44] |
| ricks99 | see PM
yes will be orphaned because no incoming link | [17:45] |
| Koios | nothing rick | [17:47] |
| sylvieg | :-( upgrade old 1.10 to 3.0 ... more memory consumption and more queries :-( | [17:47] |
| Koios | it seems like having a module would be easier
all i needed was a submit button i'll take a link to just need right code | [17:47] |
| ricks99 | working for me perfectly | [17:51] |
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| ricks99 | says "no matches found. click here to create the page"
one click, and im createing/editing the page | [17:51] |
| Koios | really ok one sec so i put that code underneath my tiki search results file | [17:53] |
| ricks99 | Koios: pls see: http://www.reviewnreport.com/tiki-index.php?page=Create+From+Search | [17:54] |
| Koios | ok very good rick
now what does orphaned mean? if the page was about dog when someone searches for dog it will come up right? | [17:55] |
| ricks99 | orphan page = a page with no incoming link
do a search for "dog" | [17:56] |
| Koios | oh ok cool | [17:58] |
| SEWilco2 | Orphaned pages will only be found if someone searches or if they are part of a Category. People won't find them by reading wiki pages, and search engines might not notice them. | [17:59] |
| ricks99 | brb | [18:00] |
| Koios | hmm so how can they not be orphaned | [18:01] |
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| sylvieg | since last svn up - fckeditor broker : toolbar set "Tiki' doesn't exist. Any idea? | [18:25] |
| Koios | hey rick now i have that link on every page | [18:37] |
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| Koios | hey i have that link on every page now rick? | [18:48] |
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| Koios | can anyone help me get this link off my front page | [18:59] |
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| Koios | i'm sorry?
you talkig to me? *talking | [19:01] |
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| Koios | hey phil | [19:04] |
| philback|away | hi
how are things going ? | [19:05] |
| Koios | i did the link thing but now the link is on all of my pages how do i det that off | [19:05] |
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| philback | ? | [19:05] |
| Koios | www.reviewnreport.com
home page has it in top right corner | [19:05] |
| philback | Koios, pvt
the editor posts back to http://www.reviewnreport.com/sample&saved_msg=y | [19:07] |
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| sylvieg | ah... there is a button automatic update - but it is going into a loop whwn I upgrade a database from 1.10 to trunk | [19:56] |
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| lphuberdeau | I didn't test from 1.10 | [20:00] |
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| sylvieg | is thre a log of the sqls... | [20:01] |
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| lphuberdeau | made a clean install of 1.10... updating to 3.0... | [20:08] |
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| lphuberdeau | worked... | [20:10] |
| sylvieg | maybe it is because I have a not pure 1.10 of course.... | [20:11] |
| SEWilco2 | "Impure! Impure!!!" | [20:11] |
| sylvieg | yeh- I am always between 2 versions (like this I do not have to backport all the time ...) | [20:12] |
| lphuberdeau | basically, the update process verifies if your DB was up to date until the moment new stuff kicks in before running the new stuff... can't see where a loop would come from | [20:12] |
| SEWilco2 | Item 1: Automatic update button should be made more shiny and irresistible. Item 2: There should be logging to hint what broke. Item 3: Dynamic description so user knows shiny button is working.
How do you know there is a loop? Maybe your request to the server got lost in the Internet and your browser is merely waiting to timeout. | [20:13] |
| sylvieg | hmmm I rerun the automatic script has it finished it .... the bd seems ok ... strnage - perhaps I got a time out somewhere.. checking the .logs
btw thx lphuberdeau | [20:15] |
| lphuberdeau | np, sourceforge was abnormally fast and it didn't take so long | [20:16] |
| SEWilco2 | I'm a confused about the podcast directory. It must be web accessible, so if it is "/podcasts/" then Apache2 needs an alias for "/podcasts/? But how does php access it through the filesystem?
Or does TW never access podcasts files directory, and only emits URLs so browsers can access it? Hmm. On doc.tw.o I click on a table heading to sort the table but the result doesn't look sorted. First column of first Features table: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=features&tr_sort_mode=f_104_asc | [20:29] |
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| lq_208 | Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me with a tikiwiki problem?
easy) way to change this? Oops, message to long. This is like talking to the wall. | [20:36] |
| SEWilco2 | Darn. A question about a way to change anything is easy to answer. | [20:40] |
| lq_208 | lol | [20:40] |
| SEWilco2 | This is like talking to a curtain. If someone on the other side of the curtain knows the answer they might call it out. They might not answer the question "Is anyone there?". | [20:41] |
| lq_208 | Aha, in case they have a weapon a la Alfred Hitchcock... | [20:42] |
| SEWilco2 | Describe your problem again. All I saw was "easy) way to change this?" | [20:42] |
| lq_208 | Anyway, my website merseyanaesthetist.net
Tikiwiki installed by host uk2.net | [20:42] |
| SEWilco2 | We don't know the reasoning of those behind the curtain. Maybe they just don't want to make noise for those who do have an answer. | [20:43] |
| lq_208 | But tikiwiki living in merseyanaesthetist.net/tiki | [20:43] |
| SEWilco2 | Ignore the man behind the curtain, just call out your wish. | [20:43] |
| lq_208 | And I want people to come to merseyanaesthetist.net and see the tikiwiki homepage there! Solution?
Other than doing it right the first way 'round? | [20:43] |
| SEWilco2 | http://merseyanaesthetist.net/tiki does give a reply. So you want to hide the "/tiki" directory?
I think that requires alteration of your web server configuration. Do you have access to that? | [20:45] |
| lq_208 | I don't want to hide the tiki, I just want people to be able to type in merseyanaesthetist.net and not get the current crappy page but get the tikiwiki homepage instead.
I've got access to the web server but whether or not i can use it is the real question. | [20:47] |
| lphuberdeau | just add an index.php file that will redirect them to tiki | [20:48] |
| lq_208 | I read somewhere... a long time ago... that having a redirect on your homepage is poo pood by search engines... Then again, who am I kidding, I don't see thousands flocking to the site.
So my index.php file should say what exactly? | [20:50] |
| lphuberdeau | <?php header( 'Location: /tiki' ); ?> | [20:51] |
| lq_208 | I would like to thank all the people behind the curtains and wish you all good night. | [20:53] |
| SEWilco2 | Just click your heels three times.
doc.tw.o problem: Main page announces 2.0 and links to a page but there is no similar 2.1 page listing what changed. http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tikiwiki+2.0 | [20:54] |
| Koios | hey i need to make a link for editing pages
nevermind guys i gotta get sleep i am dying later | [20:59] |
| SEWilco2 | More details. | [21:00] |
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| lq_208 | okay, still here and it works hurray! tara and thanks again | [21:01] |
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| SEWilco2 | I wonder why I have 3 doc.tw.o tabs which are still spinning their loading icon. I don't know which part of the page isn't loading. | [21:21] |
| README file in 2.1 says it is 2.0. I'm pretty sure I'm in the right directory. | [21:28] | |
| lphuberdeau | right, I might have forgotten to update that file | [21:29] |
| SEWilco2 | Someone who knows what changed in 2.1 also needs to create its page in doc.two.o. All I know is my anon cache fix is present. | [21:30] |
| lphuberdeau | well, you can check the svn logs
actually, it's contained in the changelog file | [21:31] |
| SEWilco2 | Isn't 'sh setup root www-data' supposed to change all files to that ownership? My files are root.myusergroup and dirs are root.www-data (except for my tikiwiki dir).
(actually I used 'sudo sh setup.sh root www-data') | [21:35] |
| Great. I can't send my site to the client because setup.sh is broken. I can manually work around it, but client's web admins need to run it too. | [21:43] | |
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| SEWilco2 | setup.sh was last modified July 11. There should have been plenty of people using it since then. | [21:55] |
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| SEWilco2 | Agh. setup.sh only alters directory ownership, not files. It was doing what it is supposed to, but it's not quite right for site transfers. | [22:58] |
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