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EveAnyone up for answering a question
Bleh, anyone here at all? D: 		[01:28]
PrezKennedynope
;-) 		[01:35]
Eve:P
You want to help me out? :O 		[01:36]
PrezKennedydepends on what it is
ask the question and im sure someone will help you 		[01:36]
EveTis security related, i'm wondering how someone would be able to gain access to a wiki in such a way as to create an account and give themselves admin access?
I don't think the password to an existing admin account was guessed
This appeared shortly after it too; Sat 04 of Oct, 2008 [20:03] Index (hist v1) v c d s Created admin 0.0.0.0 Tiki initialization
If that helps any. 		[01:37]
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starnixEve, are the permissions sane? [01:58]
EveYou're going to have to elaborate, I'm not used to Wiki settings.
Sorry D:
As far as i know, new members on the wiki don't have the permissions to delete pages or admin themselves. If that's what you mean :o 		[02:00]
starnixI was thinking more of the file permission settings on the wiki root files. Is this a windoze or unix installation? [02:02]
EveOoh, No idea sorry. The owner of the wiki isn't tech-savvy and i'm looking into this for her [02:02]
starnixWho ser it up?
set* 		[02:03]
EveTwo other people, they aren't online at the moment so i can't ask them about it D:
However the guy gained access must have been fairly simple though, he wasn't the smartest guy 		[02:04]
starnixDo you have an idea who the culprit is? [02:05]
EveYeah, he never bothered using a Proxy either as far as i know
We've banned his IP through the webserver, but he could always grab a proxy and return. So we've disabled registration on the Wiki for now 		[02:05]
starnixIs it a shared server? [02:07]
EveMeaning? [02:08]
starnixDo you own the server or is it provided by a hosting company? [02:09]
EveAhh, it's provided by a hosting company [02:09]
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EveSorry if i'm being troublesome >_> [02:09]
starnixNot at all. I'd alert the hosting company, there may be other, more serious, security flaws. [02:10]
Evehmm, okay
If they'd gained access to the site wouldn't they have just wiped the whole thing though?
All they done was edit a few Wiki pages and delete one permanently 		[02:11]
starnixNot necessarily. Was there any clue as to their intentions from what they edited? [02:13]
EveHe was just being an idiot
Trying to cause as much problems for us as possible i reckon 		[02:13]
starnixIs this the first time its happened? [02:16]
EveYep
Can i put this on hold for 10 minutes? I need to go somewhere really quickly 		[02:16]
starnixSure, maybe someone else on here can be of more help than I've been. [02:18]
EveEh, you've been good :P
Back in a bit 		[02:18]
marclaportepolom [02:22]
EveRight, back now
Anyone have any ideas? 		[02:34]
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starnixEve, what are you using for the database? [02:42]
EveNo idea whatsoever
Is there any way i could check? Without having admin access 		[02:43]
starnixIts pretty transparent to the end-user. If the db isn't secure, most anything can be done to the site without really using the wiki pages. [02:45]
EveAnything i can try out? [02:48]
starnixDo you have shell access to the site? [02:49]
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EveWoops, X'd the box by accident
Woops, X'd the box by accident D:
And nah, i don't
Hm...sorry about that 		[02:50]
starnixftp access? [02:51]
EveNope [02:51]
starnixDoes anyone else have some suggestions for Eve? [02:52]
EveI doubt the guy could have forced access to any of this though [02:52]
starnixMaybe he couldn't, but possibly a friend of his could. [02:53]
Eveahh
He didn't strike me as the friend-hoarding type :P 		[02:54]
starnixIt doesn't take an army of friends. [02:55]
EveWas over something really trivial too >_< some people have issues. [02:58]
starnixsylvieg .. I did fix the problem I asked about earlier with installing the workspace mod. After a massive greping of the whole tree, I edited the "features-aulawiki.info.txt" to correct the INSERT strings to match the table stucture.
Eve, maybe you should talk to the perpetrator, if he knows you know who he is he may not try it again. 		[03:00]
EveI doubt i'll get anything sensible out of him, or that he'll be scared. He sent PM's to the admins on our forums beforehand with what he probably thought were badass insults then started trash talking us on some other board only to be banned there too [03:02]
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koioschiba? [05:44]
can anyone help [05:53]
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hello [06:10]
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Jilanhagood evening :D [06:15]
koioshey
jil
are you here to help or do you need help 		[06:21]
Jilanhaoh I need help
I don't know anything about sql other than how to copy and paste it :P 		[06:28]
koiosok
i will try but no expert here whats p
whats up 		[06:29]
Jilanhahttp://thenetherrealm.com/wiki3/tiki-index.php
error messages everywhere :P
and there are some tables I'm trying to restore to that database that are too large to import...I can't figure out how to add them in 		[06:29]
koiosok 1 sec
what theme are you using? 		[06:30]
Jilanhai have no idea. i installed the wiki and connected it to an empty database
then started importing an old backup table by table
i believe though, that the theme was a custom one 		[06:31]
koioswell way over my head knowledge wise i am sorry i just strted using the software myself www.reviewnreport.com
many people come in here that know a lot obut tiki and they are quite willing to help 		[06:32]
Jilanhado you know of any way to restore deleted articles? [06:33]
koiosi am waiting for assistance as well it is the only location that yo ucan recieve help with tiki [06:33]
Jilanhasomeone hacked our tiki and deleted some pages.. i'm trying to restore them [06:34]
koios=[ i copy paste a lot too i am afraid =]
what is your site about 		[06:34]
Jilanhait's a reference wiki for an online RPG game that we are developing into a multi series book [06:34]
koiosoh wow cool [06:35]
Jilanhathere is a lot of time and effort put into that site.. and it really sucks that someone deleted our work [06:35]
koios=[ [06:37]
Jilanhaso.. trying to figure out how to recover lost pages pretty much. what are you trying to do? [06:39]
koiosinstall a chatroom
like this one =] 		[06:40]
Jilanhaah [06:43]
koiostrying to install mibbet
a web client
also soem other lil things 		[06:43]
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Jilanhahi mary [06:49]
Maryhey Koios are you on?
hi 		[06:49]
Jilanhahe's around :D [06:49]
Maryoh ok =] [06:50]
koioshey mary whats up [06:50]
MaryI really like your site i was checking it out earlier could you improve my privlages i would like to be a moderator and write articles [06:51]
koiosoh thanks i dont know though i dont know you well enough
maybe we will see
send me a email
www.webmaster@reviewnreport.com
this way i have contact info 		[06:52]
Maryok
sure
=] 		[06:53]
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Mary?
what about the chatroom? 		[06:53]
koiosi am working on it now
i know we really need one on there i am looking at mibbit 		[06:53]
Maryok
i wanna start threds in the forum for you =] 		[06:54]
koiosok like i said we will see =] [06:54]
Maryhi psbot
have you seen koios's site www.reviewnreport.com yet you should register 		[06:55]
koiosstop mary! this is neither the time or place for promotion
this is for tiki so stop 		[06:55]
Maryok I am sorry
I did not want to offend you just trying to help 		[06:56]
koiosi know but you cant do that here
rnr does not do things like that that is why people have been waiting for the site to open 		[06:56]
Maryyes you are right i apologize well what can i do for you koios [06:57]
koiosi am fine hangout on rnr make some pages of info up [06:58]
Maryi wanna talk with you though =[ [06:58]
koiosgo now i am trying to get info for the site [06:58]
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koiossorry guys for her spamming [06:59]
Jilanhalol that's funny [06:59]
koioswhat? [06:59]
Jilanhashe's so eager to be a moderator [06:59]
koiosa lot of people wanna help me out
they really like the site
it is just people from here really no one else knows about it
you can post a thred about rpg's on the site if ya want jil
*thread 		[06:59]
Jilanhait's pretty cool [07:00]
koiosthats what i mean it is there for everyone
she wants to open a sci fi thread i think
that women
mary 		[07:00]
Jilanhawell open it for her and she can lead discussion without having to be promoted to moderator [07:01]
koiosi have some other pc tech geeks on here that wanna start thread too
i am going too =]
i dont mind her just dont like someone spamming like that 		[07:01]
Jilanhayeah you need just a few mods that you trust to open topics for you and clarify which member is going to lead discussion rather than just mod everyone [07:02]
koiosright
i agree
do you think i should allow her to now
or should i wait 		[07:02]
Jilanhato what? to mod or lead a discussion [07:02]
koiosthe site is not complete
lead discusssion 		[07:02]
Jilanhawell, how far from completion are you? [07:03]
koiosi am just about there it is functional
just a few lil tweaks 		[07:03]
Jilanhawell you could release a copule of topics, just so others who are as of yet undecided can get an idea of what it will be like [07:04]
koiosdid you register yet?
on the RnR site? 		[07:04]
Jilanhano not yet but that's cause i don't really know what it's going to be like [07:04]
koiosbasically filling in the gaps for wiki
not only a information hub but a community
so all in one 		[07:04]
Jilanhacool [07:05]
koiosfor everyone and everything
hey i like that maybe i sould make that the motto
For everyone & everything
=]
yea
i gotta go design a banner
i'll be back =] 		[07:05]
Jilanhacool [07:07]
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koiosno one yet to help you jul
jil
=[ to bad i am in the same boat 		[07:23]
Jilanhanot yet
i think its a theme issue but i don't know how to get around it 		[07:28]
koiosi am having a real hard time installing this =[ www.mibbit.com
it is suppose to be real easy so i feel dumb
i think it is a theme issue too 		[07:29]
Jilanhaso now the question is. how do I get around the theme issue [07:39]
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koiosjust load a new theme in from the admin menu [07:46]
Jilanhabut i an't even login
oh wait... i got logged in but my index page is empty 		[07:49]
koiosoh you might have to reinstall tikiwiki fresh to your host [07:53]
Jilanhagah! i'm getting half of the pages to work but not all of them
most of them are blank, but others work fine 		[07:55]
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koioscioa hey
cia 		[07:58]
Jilanhawb CIA [07:58]
koioshe could help ye [08:04]
Jilanhahe hasn't been talking for hours...just lurking [08:06]
koioslol [08:13]
JilanhaI have a massive toothache/migraine and I just really want to go to sleep [08:16]
koios=[ sorry jil go get some sleep than =] [08:24]
Jilanhatrying to get another one of my staff in here to take my place [08:25]
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koioshelllo [11:41]
macjaegerbuon giorno [11:41]
koioshey mac
i am stil;l foolin around with chat
widget 		[11:41]
macjaegerdidn't work they way i explained? [11:42]
koiosi was so exhausted i went to sleep
it should be easy
but i would like a menu button 		[11:42]
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koiosdid u register on the site yet? i will make you a moderator
i made copies of all the home files and changed there name to chat
i figured that would work but it is so early
i am getting sick of all this i need to take a break 		[11:43]
macjaegeractually you didn't need to change anything
you only need to put that magic line to a wiki page:
{IRCCHAT()}my Chat{IRCCHAT} 		[11:47]
koiosi do?magic? [11:47]
macjaegerthen this page will show the chatwindow [11:48]
koiosreally so i can create any page and put it on it [11:48]
macjaegerwhen you want to have a button in your menu you must create an menu entry for it
sure, that's what plugins are about, right?
they plug in a page :) 		[11:48]
koioswww.mibbit.com [11:48]
macjaegeroh wait
now you want to put _that_ in your page? 		[11:49]
koiosyes
well i dont need that irc
i like the frog
=[ i wish i was smarter 		[11:49]
macjaegerthen you'll have to do the work yourself [11:50]
koiosreally
ok what was your way
i am ready 		[11:50]
macjaegerwell i showed you one way to do it, if you want to walk another road, you'll have to get your own map out
maybe you should start logging our conversations
i feel kind of stupid repeating myself over and over 		[11:50]
koios=[ i wish i was older these things are so hard for a 11yr old =[ [11:51]
macjaegerok, then you're out [11:51]
koioslol i am teasing but i feel like one [11:51]
macjaegeryour're legally not supposed to run any public site or chat
*g* 		[11:52]
marclaportemarclaporte is curious about this irc discussion [11:52]
koiosi need a chatrrom on my page [11:52]
marclaporteI didn't read log, in a nutshell, was is happening? [11:52]
macjaegermarclaporte: koios wants to have chat on his site, and found that mini_chap doesn't work [11:52]
koiosi need to know how to install it [11:52]
macjaegerit doesn't work for me either, so i put a java-irc-client in a plugin and put that on a wikipage
now i was trying to help koios do the same 		[11:53]
koioswhere do i acess plugins mac? [11:53]
macjaegerplugins ar - basically - php-scripts stored in /lib/wikiplugins folder
and they are - basically - put into wikipages by adding the right incantation to the page 		[11:54]
koiosok so i copy paste my irc code and put it in that folder [11:54]
macjaegerthat incantation is {PLUGINNAME}
i provided you with a zip-archive, containing all the necessary files to put pjirc on your site
you need to unzip that and upload the contents to your webroot 		[11:55]
koiosok i will work at it [11:56]
macjaegerwhen you've done this you can insert {IRCCHAT()}my chat{IRCCHAT} in any wikipage
and tikiwiki will show the java plugin there 		[11:56]
koioswhat about on my horizontl menu
what is your user name on my site mac i will make you a moderator 		[11:57]
macjaeger[13:48] <macjaeger> when you want to have a button in your menu you must create an menu entry for it
sorry, you'll have to moderate your site yourself 		[11:58]
koiosi have others
wanted you because you are so intelligent and kind
=[ but that is ok i'll just get some kids to help out
you can have your own thread mac we will name it Macs Pc help 		[11:58]
macjaegersure, can do [12:01]
koiosok cool [12:01]
macjaegeri'm 50€ per hour [12:01]
koiosthis way you can check every so often
oh no this is a free site to help the public 		[12:01]
macjaegerwhat exactly are you providing? [12:02]
koiosa wikipedia that is also a community
now you can hangout and chat in forums blog emails evrything
plus search for information an any given subject
so it is perfect for you 		[12:02]
macjaegerso actually you are building your own yahoo + wikipedia ? [12:03]
koiosyea [12:03]
macjaegerwhy? [12:03]
koiosbecuase that is what i wanted
so i did
i want something that is easy to navigate
and not full of ads 		[12:04]
macjaegerwhy not join communities that already exist?
would spare you the trouble of all that tech stuff 		[12:04]
koiosi want to make money
i am broke 		[12:04]
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koiosand have no future [12:05]
macjaegerthen you should have something to sell [12:05]
koiosthis site is my future [12:05]
macjaegeryou are doomed [12:05]
koiosi want to provide info to the public in a easy manner [12:05]
macjaegereasier than wikipedia? [12:06]
koiosyou are a rarity in this belive most people highly anticipate this site [12:06]
macjaegeri know, i'm a dreamer [12:06]
koiosi can tell by you saying that, that you are well in your 40's? [12:06]
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koiosam i right [12:06]
macjaegernope. [12:06]
koiosoh ok your a hip 18
my mistake
do you have a myspace profile www.myspace.com/koiosorion 		[12:07]
macjaegersorry, i won't marry you :-) [12:08]
koiosthats ok i apreciate all the help you have given me you have been vey kind i
i just woke up on the wrong side of the bed sorry 		[12:08]
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macjaeger^^ [12:14]
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marclaporte: you said you were interested in that chat subject... why? [12:48]
marclaporteI think chat is essential part of online communities [12:50]
macjaegeryes. sure it is [12:50]
marclaporteI feel currently irc #tikiwiki is too disconnected from tikiwiki.org
I think web-interface to IRC, using tikiwiki.org credentials would be nice
irc.tikiwiki.org has nice logging
but totally not integrated with cgi-irc
or tiki 		[12:50]
macjaegera chat must be usable outside of the site too [12:52]
marclaporteyes, with desktop client [12:52]
macjaegeri won't have the page open whole day, but i'm logged in here almost always
yet still the page should provide _one_ way inside 		[12:52]
marclaporteyup [12:52]
macjaegerthat's why i choose a java client
(on my site) 		[12:53]
marclaportethat won't work on my pocketpc
But I understand the choice 		[12:53]
macjaegerwould flash? [12:53]
marclaportecgi-irc does
no flash 		[12:53]
macjaegercgi-irc is heavy on the server & connection [12:53]
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macjaegerwell, that won't hurt tw.o i guess, but our shared host won't allow it for obvious reasons
but for your pocketpc there must be some standalone irc clients, right? 		[12:54]
marclaporteyes, you are right
could do that 		[12:55]
macjaegermaybe one could have a page showing either cgi:irc or java/flash client, and listing "common" clients to use for different situations? [12:56]
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macjaegerhmm... how do i edit a FAQ-Question after i posted it?
i only seem to be able to edit the FAQ settings, but not the questions? 		[13:30]
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macjaegerLOL
found it
i can edit questions when i try to add a new one... 		[13:37]
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koioschiba?
are you here? Chiba =[ 		[15:42]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14994 /trunk/db/tiki-db.php: [FIX] path fix for some web hosting like free.fr
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