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SEWilco2SEWilco2 emits loud noises in the direction of the vsftpd document authors [00:57]
NefariousCThey can't hear you, you know. [01:03]
SEWilco2That's OK. They're not so good at writing, so I doubt they speak anyway. [01:07]
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lphuberdeauwhy would anyone need an FTP server? [01:19]
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chibaguyQuestion from tw.o forum: "...in the process of trying to upgrade to 2.1. When trying to open a file gallery in IE 6 or IE 7, memory usage for the browser shoots up to over 100MB and IE will lock up. If I use any other browser (Firefox or Chrome), it comes up right away and memory usage is nominal. Anyone have a tip?" [01:52]
NefariousC"don't use IE" d: [01:53]
chibaguy:-) [01:53]
NefariousC"ow, that hurts" / "maybe you should stop doing that" [01:53]
chibaguyDang, I was just writing that joke...
chibaguy needs to type faster. 		[01:54]
NefariousCI did that with two fingers d: [01:55]
chibaguyno need to gloat [01:55]
NefariousCI have sticky hands s: [01:55]
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chibaguyI'm not gonna ask why. [01:56]
NefariousCIt's not perverted or anything. [01:56]
chibaguyInvolves tasty food? [01:56]
NefariousCI'm just eating a candy apple. Which is a bit melty [01:56]
chibaguyAren't candy apples out of season? [01:57]
NefariousCuh. I have no idea [01:57]
chibaguythat's ok, no need to follow convention. [01:58]
NefariousCas if I ever do <: [01:59]
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chibaguySpeaking of convention, I have to figure out how to write docs on site Look & Feel config and theme making/modding, realizing that my themes have diverged quite a bit from the olde methods (which are still used by some themes in Tiki 2). [02:06]
SEWilco2It's around Halloween season, and candy apples are quite in season. [02:10]
chibaguyAh, good point, SEWilco2. I forgot about that. [02:11]
SEWilco2Grr. I see I have a "/tmp/" directory in existence, but can't find it in TW config. It's not in Admin>filegal nor >imagegal.
Of course if one wants messy convention, go for bobbing for apples. 		[02:11]
chibaguyHere in Japan, we have candy apples at summer festivals. Halloween is beginning to catch on (imagery in ads, etc.), but isn't to the eating candy apples stage yet. [02:12]
SEWilco2I realize I was thinking of caramel apples. Am not certain if candy apples are different. [02:13]
chibaguySame, I think, except for color/flavor. [02:13]
SEWilco2I should have written down my configuration as I configured, so I wouldn't now have to find what I configured where. [02:13]
chibaguyDid Tiki make that /tmp/ directory? At my 2.0 fresh install, I have a /temp/ but no /tmp/ . [02:14]
SEWilco2Heh. Finally thought to see what is in the directory. It's some web design notes which I'm using during site creation.
I was expecting to see uninformative hashes.
Hmm. Maybe there should be a way to request an HTML or XML description of the content of TW filegal/imagegal dir be dumped in same dir, and a way to reload same info in case of data loss.
(I rather dislike having imagegal's dir only full of hashed names and no way to recover if the corresponding DB is damaged or gets out of sync) 		[02:15]
The YouTube debate was interesting. Maybe we should offer a TikiWiki Presidential Debate in 2012. Negotiating which features to use would be a problem. [02:23]
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SEWilco2I'd write a gag about Google Earth debates if I could think of a punchline based upon view of the world. [02:26]
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chibaguySomething that's saved by bu--, er, page edit a few times recently: when I click save or preview and find session/edit permission has timed out, in Opera I can open a new tab, log in again, then return to the editpage tab, hit the browser back button and -- editing intact -- proceed with save or preview. Not sure if this is possible in other browsers.
But I think Opera 9.5.* was rushed out to not be outshined by FF3. It's buggy enough that I had to go back to 9.27. 		[05:23]
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luciashmoornin [06:10]
marclaporteluciash : polom [06:11]
luciashpolom marc :) [06:11]
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chibaguyhi marclaporte and luciash [06:15]
luciashhey chiba !
luciash didn't touch opera for long time, what a shame :-p 		[06:15]
chibaguyI still like it for general use, tho have switched to FF for theme work, etc. [06:17]
luciashluciash is mostly on Flock 2(beta) which is basically the same as FF3 [06:20]
chibaguychibaguy likes Opera's built-in irc and BitTorrent clients, download manager, speed, etc. [06:20]
luciashchibaguy: do you use opera for mail too ? [06:20]
chibaguyNo, Thunderbird. [06:20]
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chibaguyI tried the mail briefly, but it uses filters instead of folders and I guess my brain was too inflexible. ;-) [06:21]
luciash:) [06:22]
chibaguyluciash, what do you think of Google Chrome? [06:28]
luciashwell, i didn't tried it yet but still i have some doubts about gnome products and company as a whole... hard to say... is it already natie under linux or via wine only ?
s/natie/native 		[06:29]
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chibaguynot native yet [06:43]
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chibaguySearch results at doc.tw.o: "Found 'look & feel' in 29 wikis" -> should be "...in 29 wiki pages".
BTW, none of the results has anything to do with the Tiki2 Look & Feel feature. Docs are way behind, I guess. 		[07:41]
luciashaye, i see [07:45]
chibaguyI wonder if the doc page "Site Identity" can be renamed "Look & Feel" or if a separate "Look & Feel" page should be made. [07:50]
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chibaguy(what is the method for showing Tiki 2 information? -- I don't recall what was decided.)
use PluginVersions?
That seems to be it. 		[07:51]
ParagtimHi all, How do I get rid of relevance on searches? [07:57]
chibaguyMaybe when the feature name changes, the doc page should be something like "Look & Feel (was Site Identity)"
(sorry Paragtim, not related to your question.) 		[07:57]
ParagtimNP :) [07:58]
luciashchibaguy: yep, plugin versions, but i'd either create new page named Look & Feel and (or redirect from) Site Identity
chibaguy: we have the redirect plugin for that, right ?
would be nice if the redirect plugin somewhat indicated that the page was redirected from ... as the wikipedia does though
s/somewhat/somehow/
hi Paragtim, what searches ? 		[08:00]
chibaguyYep, redirect plugin is listed. [08:04]
Paragtimwhen I search for content (abc for example) the data returned shows hits and relevance. I need to lose the relevance from the display [08:05]
luciashjust remove the " (Relevance: 3)" from display ? [08:06]
ParagtimI have a dev and live site and the dev returns no relevence but the searchlib.php is the same on both sites [08:06]
luciashParagtim: check if the first one is using tiki-searchindex or tiki-searchresults [08:07]
Paragtimboth using search results [08:08]
luciashsame database version ? [08:08]
Paragtimyes [08:09]
luciashParagtim: check out if tiki-admin.php?page=search has the same settings [08:09]
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humhum. [08:11]
luciashchibaguy: so add the versions plugin, then rename the page to Look & Feel and create new page with the redirect called Site Identity [08:11]
humhumé [08:11]
ParagtimYes - Both have the same settings [08:12]
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ParagtimI'm sure I read somewhere that a "simple" search does not return relevance but can't figure out how to only use a simple search [08:14]
luciashParagtim: that's weird then... if you want to get rid of it anyway, you can edit the tiki-searchresults.tpl, remove the relevance part and copy it to your templates/styles/yourstyle/
Paragtim: heh, yep, it sounds promising, but where you set the simple search i have no idea either 		[08:14]
ParagtimLooking at tiki-searchresults now - back soon [08:16]
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chibaguybbl [08:21]
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ParagtimReally strange. the "if" statement in tiki-searchresult.tpl is the same on both sites. Full text is enabled on both sites. 1 give relevance and one doesn't. Just to be curious I disabled full text on the live and relevevance has not gone away. Did the same on dev and there is no change. No wonder my hair is going white :)
Still problem solved for now
Thanks for the pointers luciash 		[08:27]
luciashParagtim: np, you're welcome [08:38]
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Paragtimwould you now how to increase the font size in the free tag cloud? Have looked in the css and can't see anything that relates to it [08:54]
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LiamMarrickhey
is it an german or an english channel? 		[09:05]
luciashenglish [09:11]
LiamMarricki want to make a new menu only in a line under the header but the menu is on left or right sight as well
thats my problem 		[09:11]
luciashLiamMarrick: remove the left/right module of the menu [09:13]
LiamMarrickbut then is gone, everywhere [09:14]
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LiamMarrickany idea`
? 		[09:20]
ParagtimCheck the group that you have assigned to the menu
bbfn 		[09:22]
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LiamMarrickwhere can i active phplayers? [09:52]
damianive not used tiki for a while, but it used to be an option under Admin->Features page [09:53]
LiamMarrickthx found it [09:53]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 15039 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.menu.php: [FIX] uninitialized variable... which leads to bad id in CSSMenu... [09:53]
LiamMarrickem
now i want a menu under the header
and no longer on the left side 		[09:55]
damianLook for site header in the admin panel, enable it there, and then in Admin->Modules remove the menu module [09:57]
LiamMarricksite ad and banners?
not realy
think i found it
you mean top bar?
nice
thx 		[10:03]
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MatWhoHi all - trying to use templates on a wiki page is it broken in trunk? [12:40]
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MatWhothat is content template [12:43]
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ricks99content templates working for me (at least in wiki)
(although i seem to be missing the Admin > Content Template menu option.... ? 		[12:50]
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sylviegsomebody knows what is ~hs~?
ahn ok it is spavce 		[13:10]
ricks99hs = hard space [13:11]
sylviegit is not in wiki help ... [13:11]
ricks99like a non-breaking space
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+syntax#Non_breaking_space 		[13:11]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15040 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]parsing: move the htmlchar before color parsing to be able to parse ~hs~~hs~xxxx~~red:text~~
SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15041 /trunk/lib/images/imagick_old.php: [FIX] : fix pb with imagemagick and bad image data... 		[13:33]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by matwho :: r 15042 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin_content_templates.tpl: [MOD][FIX] Made it more obvious that a content template is not assigned to any sections. Fixed table heading. [14:07]
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ricks99in 2.1, the rss feeds for wiki pages are no longer validating properly (rss 2.0).
anyone know how to fix? 		[14:27]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15043 /trunk/templates/tiki-edit_help.tpl: [FIX]wiki: some more code in the wiki help [15:00]
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/LIST #tikiwikirn 		[15:03]
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FraakHello, I wondered if TikiWiki suports using a different mail method then the default mail function within php? [15:09]
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LiamMarrickhow can i activate top-bar in tiki version 1.9? [15:24]
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ricks99@LiamMarrick: on Admin: Features, enable "Top Bar" option [15:55]
LiamMarrickbut i didnt find it in version 1.9 [15:56]
ricks99i see in in 1.9.11. what is ur exact version? [16:00]
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ricks99i also have 1.9.8.3. also on admin: features page [16:01]
ParagtimAny known issues with PluginUserlist? [16:03]
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ParagtimGetting the following error when I try to install:- modules/users_list/mod-users_list.php to modules/ impossible to copy [16:06]
LiamMarrick1.9.11 ricks99 [16:06]
ricks99@LiamMarrick: and you don't see it on Admin: Features (near the bottom of the page)? Are you using a custom theme? [16:07]
ParagtimPage last modified on Friday 03 October, 2008 18:55:47 UTC by sylvie [16:07]
LiamMarrickbut headlist is not top bar.... when i activate headlist, "Dies ist TikiWiki CMS/Groupware v1.9.11 -Sirius- © 2002–2008 von der Tiki Community Mi 08 of Oct, 2008 [18:23]" [16:07]
ricks99what is "headlist"? [16:07]
LiamMarrickno custom theme
i use german wiki
so kopfzeile is standing there
kopfleiste
yea ok, and how can i edit these bar?
in the moment this stands in "Dies ist TikiWiki CMS/Groupware v1.9.11 -Sirius- © 2002–2008 von der Tiki Community Mi 08 of Oct, 2008 [18:23]" 		[16:07]
ricks99use the Site Identity option and you can create a custom header
The "Custom Code" will appear above the top-bar (Dies ist TikiWiki.....) 		[16:09]
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nikhilodeonhi, has anyone here used the MOUSEOVER plugin much within TikiWiki 2.0?
i am having cross-browser compatibility issues with it 		[16:13]
LiamMarrickbut i dont' want something abouv top bar i want it in topbar [16:14]
ricks99@LiamMarrick: then you need to manually edit tiki-top_bar.tpl template [16:15]
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LiamMarrickah ok
thx 		[16:19]
nikhilodeonspecifically the links generated by the overlib js file are not clickable in Google Chrome or IE [16:21]
sylvieg{file name=..} is broken [16:22]
PS|botSVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15045 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.query.php: [ENH] smarty query: new _noauto param to force 'query' to take only params that were explicitely given in the template when calling 'query' (i.e. don't take care of GET/POST params in this case). [16:22]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15047 /trunk/setup_smarty.php: [NEW] smarty: you can now add a line like the following in db/local.php to use an external smarty installation: $smarty_path='/usr/share/php/smarty/';
SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15046 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: [FIX] smarty self_link: correctly handle ajax args 		[16:24]
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ParagtimIs there a way of fixing it, or another way to install the plugin? [16:32]
ricks99try installing it manually [16:33]
ParagtimOk - how can I do this? [16:33]
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ricks99just copy it to: ..libwiki-plugins.. [16:35]
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ricks99pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mods+User&highlight=mods [16:36]
Paragtimwhere do I find it? tried searching the archive for mod-user*.p* and nothing found [16:36]
ricks99mods.tikiwiki.org
or <shamless plug>http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installing+Mods+Manually</shameless plug> 		[16:36]
ParagtimGot it - thanks [16:38]
ricks99k [16:39]
PS|botSVN: Commit by rlpowell :: r 15048 /trunk/templates/modules/mod-login_box.tpl: All the button does is prevent people in text-based browsers from logging in, and for no good reason. -- rlpowell at digitalkingdom dot org [16:39]
Paragtim<shamless plug> Id10t error between keyboard and seat [16:40]
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Paragtimdoes the mod-userList.tpl file go in /lib/wiki-plugins? [16:45]
ricks99TPL files usually go in the TEMPLATES folder. is it specified in the readme file? [16:46]
ParagtimNo read me [16:47]
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ricks99look here: http://mods.tikiwiki.org/details.php?type=modules&mod=users_list
php files should be placed in modules/, tpl in templates/modules 		[16:47]
ParagtimLooking through the package list there is a path to /templates/modules. Will try it there [16:48]
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GillesMMhi what is the table giving users per group ? [17:07]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15050 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_attach.php: just reformatting
SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15049 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] smarty button: new smarty 'button' function to display a Tikiwiki button / link (i.e. <span class="button"><a href="...">Click Here</a></span>). + Quick update of tikinewt to behave better with smarty button 		[17:07]
MatWhoHi, If I want the {tracker} plugin to allow another item to be added to the tracker immediately after submitting one. Do I do this with the URL parameter, or am I missing something. Thanks [17:10]
PS|botSVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15051 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin_calendars.tpl: [NEW] smarty button: deploy smarty button in tiki-admin_calendars.tpl. It has to be used like this: {button _text="{tr}Create Calendar{/tr}" href="tiki-admin_calendars.php?show=mod"}
To produce this HTML code: <span class="button"><a href="tiki-admin_calendars.php?show=mod">Create Calendar</a></span> + Fix the magnifier icon (_id of smarty icon must not contain the file extension, i.e. '.png') 		[17:11]
MatWhoIs there a tracker plugin expert out there ... sound of tearing hair :( [17:22]
sylviegMatWho: it is not working like that - perhaps you can redirect with url I think to the same apge [17:26]
MatWhook thats what I am doing, thanks, just thought i had missed something. Why does it work like it does? [17:27]
nikhilodeonhi can someone tell me how to remove the auto-link creation when words have wiki capitalization, eg HelloWorld - I don't want to have these words autolinked [17:33]
MatWhoput them in ))WordLikeThis(( [17:33]
nikhilodeonah neva mind!
found it - uncheck "Allow Wiki Words" in Wiki admin 		[17:34]
MatWhoyes that is not a very good label for it :) [17:35]
nikhilodeonyeah I like "Automagic" better [17:35]
MatWhoOr should that be "AutoMagic" :) [17:36]
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what is the wiki syntax for a non breaking space [17:55]
sylvieg~hs~ [17:56]
MatWhotx [17:56]
sylviegI think [17:56]
MatWhoit is
Can I get a table to do do width=100% with wiki || syntax, sorry to keep asking but the docs are missing such a lot
do do = do 		[17:58]
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mac|jaegerthat's almost dadaism! [18:03]
MatWhodo do da [18:04]
mac|jaegeror the police song ;-)
(or my sweet daughter of 13 months trying her first sylabels) 		[18:04]
MatWhoBut do you know if I can make a table span across the page with wiki syntax? [18:04]
mac|jaegeri don't know, but i doubt it
wiki syntax itself is even less form-aware than html
of course in tikiwiki you can always use html <tr> tags
but that's not wikisyntax 		[18:05]
MatWhoOh that is much better thanks! [18:08]
sylviegis there a way to do a svn diff latest - instead of svn diff -r 15051 [18:12]
MatWhosvn diff HEAD
sorru svn diff -r HEAD
u=y my fingers today!! 		[18:16]
sylviegthx [18:17]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15053 /trunk/tiki-admin_include_look.php: trace [18:27]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15054 /trunk/templates/ (footer.tpl tiki-bot_bar.tpl): [FIX]layout: mv last update message to tiki-bot_bar to be included in a div [18:36]
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nkoth3Hi, sometime back there was talk about a "large file uploader". Anyone has a working version or is it already in the development code somewhere? [19:08]
lphuberdeauI've seen nothing of it on the dev/svn lists [19:12]
ricks99ack! trying to add a <a ... onmouseover="..." in a module. tiki keeps adding on<x>.
how can i add js events?
{literal}<a ... > {/literal} doesn't work :( 		[19:17]
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lphuberdeaublocking javascript is the whole point of sanitization [19:20]
mac|jaeger:-) [19:20]
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ricks99i understand that. but there's got to be a way around it.
i *used* to be able to use {lieteral} 		[19:20]
mac|jaegera way around it would still defeat that purpose [19:21]
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ricks99ahhh {literal}on{/literal}mouseover works.
<whew>
tiki needs a 'safe' way for adding script 		[19:24]
lphuberdeauI guess we'll have to block that [19:35]
ricks99argh :)
actually, things like {literal}<{/literal}script> work just fine, too
prehaps, there needs to be a global per somewhere. block all potential scripts. but with a way to override for specific groups (i.e., allow admin to add scripts)
it looks like you can insert *any* php coding to bypass the sanitizer. 		[19:35]
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mac|jaegeryou will never be able to block all kinds of scripts, as you can't really control what will be rendered on client site
you'd have to disable most of tikiwikis features to make it "waterproof", but then it'd be no fun anymore... 		[19:44]
ricks99i understand. i've got my workaround... i'll stay happy (for now) [19:47]
mac|jaegeractually i'd even like to see _less_ restrictions
but i understand there have to be made compromises 		[19:47]
ricks99i dont mind restrictions, but there needs to be an acceptable work around. for exmaple, let the "admin" group do whatever they want [19:47]
mac|jaegerour use of tikiwiki is in an rather controlled environment, more like a team-collaboration-suite
there's hardly any fear for user abusing the system
but of course that's different with most tw sites
and i totally agree that limitations should not lie in design, but be implemented on a permission base 		[19:48]
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GillesMMhi I have a spmaty problem in smarty
{$galleryid} => 8
{php}
global $galleryId;
echo "id: $galleryId" => "id"
I don't see $galleryId inside {php}
idea ? 		[20:12]
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GillesMMsalut tomb [20:17]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by rlpowell :: r 15055 /trunk/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: That was *really* bad usage of the database. [20:45]
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SEWilco2A cluster of new users can't log on. I just asked them if they typed the first letter of their usernames in uppercase, as given to them. I suspect I know their answer. [22:39]
GillesMMdo you know how to use $result=$userlib->get_users( 0, -1, 'login_asc','' , '', true, $projetgroup,''); ?
I can loop in smarty ... but I don't understand how to get the users values ... 		[22:41]
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