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SEWilco2Goodnight, Irene. [00:00]
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marclaportehehe [00:03]
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EricIsGoodusing the directory module, i chose to display a link inline, but it's opening in a new window... anyone know how to fix this? [01:51]
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chibaguyEricIsGood, on the Directory admin page (tiki-admin.php?page=directory), you can choose how to open links. [04:00]
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marclaportedev.tw.o is slow...
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PS|botSVN: Commit by pkdille :: r 15383 /trunk/templates/ (2 files): [MOD] button: deploy button smarty plugin to some templates [05:57]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 15385 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Typos [09:33]
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PhilbackI've got an issue with one of my plugins: WARNING: Plugin disabled
I've added an entry to the tiki_feature table for it but no change 		[10:59]
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sylviegyou need to active it in admin->magic.. [11:00]
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Perry295hello [12:10]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 15386 /trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_help.tpl: [FIX]using plugin helper INSERT link no longer triggers lost edit protection for IE [12:19]
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PhilbackHow do I enable plugins in 3.0 Dev
? 		[13:00]
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PhilbackHow do I enable plugins in 3.0 Dev ? [13:11]
lphuberdeau_top menu > Content > Plugin [13:12]
Philbackis it new to 2.X, 3.X ?
thx, BTW, was able to enable my new plugin (integrating libcast.com vids) 		[13:16]
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lphuberdeau_enabling plugins?
mostly the disabling part that was not possible in 2.x 		[13:25]
PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15387 /branches/experimental/jitfilter/ (20 files in 8 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 15366 to 15386 [13:26]
lphuberdeau_how did you do the integration for those videos? [13:26]
Philbackwell, I've got a source like http://hobsons.metachannel.eu/ (we also do have a studio for submitting the vids etc)
so, I wanted to be able to put a simple {LIBCAST(src=url)} in my wiki pages instead of needing to put the iframe code.
Nothing fancy.
on a video, if you click on the little chain, you'll get the iframe code I am putting in.
For the record, I am used to 1.9 and have to still discover subtelties of 2.x, 3.x (using both on my box but linking 3.x better, even if it has some issues)
I am going to use tiki to create a tool for approving & publishing videos from these blogs (galaxiga put to the test). 		[13:27]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15388 /trunk/installer/schema/ (2 files): [FIX] Correct naming convention [13:38]
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lphuberdeau_it could probably be done without additional code
using the webservice plugin on an oembed service
(in 3.x) 		[13:39]
Philbackwith some ~np~, but ...
what'oembed service ?
never touched that. 		[13:40]
lphuberdeau_oembed.org [13:40]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15389 /trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [MOD]tracker: some more code deduplication [13:41]
lphuberdeau_very simple protocol... [13:41]
Philbackbtw, in 3.x, when saving a wiki page (last update since this morning), I do get "Unknown column 'is_html' in 'field list'"
when saving a page 		[13:41]
lphuberdeau_oohembed.org is a companion if I remember well
update the db... 		[13:41]
Philbackquery... insert into `tiki_history`(`pageName`
ok 		[13:41]
lphuberdeau_which reminds me I forgot to update tiki.sql AGAIN [13:43]
Philbackoembed looks cool. I'll sent that to the makers of LibCast [13:46]
lphuberdeau_and because it's based on JSON, the webservice plugin can consume it with no problems
build an alias on top of it and you're done
even better, write it as a profile and it can be distributed 		[13:49]
PhilbackI've discovered aliases, that's interesting.
but here, the provided has no oembed support right now (i've sent an email already :-) ).
Tiki is too cool. Love it.
It also helps a lot in presales for making an idea demoable in web form (and maybe do it in prod as well !!) 		[13:51]
lphuberdeau_you can build a proxy script that will throw the oembed output
instead of getting tiki to call their services directly, you make no changes in tiki and create a bridge on the side... easier to maintain 		[13:54]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15391 /trunk/templates/tiki-magic.tpl: {tr} [14:01]
Philbackok
will do 		[14:04]
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dtougasDoes Tiki support hierarchical calendars/events? [14:43]
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ricks99@dtougas: not sure what you mean. calendars can be categorized (which can be hierarchical) [14:47]
dtougasWell, say I had a hierarchical organization, each level having it's own calendar
I want events posted on the top level calendar to show up on the lower level calendars as well 		[14:48]
ricks99y. you can have multiple calendars, then filter which calendar's events to show
see: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/calendar
click "visible calendar" to filter which calendar's events will display 		[14:50]
SEWilco2Yeah, there's nothing unusual in Yellowstone so it must be Global Warming: "Global Warming Is Killing Frogs And Salamanders In Yellowstone Park, Researchers Say" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081028184830.htm
oops, wrong channel 		[14:53]
dtougasOk, I get it... is there a way to have new users be configured with a specific list of calendars when they are created? [14:53]
ricks99maybe with categories... [14:54]
dtougasHmmm... ok, well this looks promising... I will have to install Tiki and play around with it a bit to see how it works [14:55]
SEWilco2Yeah, what ricks99 said. IF a category can be attached to a calendar. [14:56]
dtougasthanks [14:56]
SEWilco2Or... if a calendar allows restrictions based upon Groups.
Create a calendar and see whether there are Category or Group options. 		[14:56]
dtougasok, I will check that out [14:57]
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Meeso_OSHey, I'm having a problem
I have two wikis set up
on the same server
but
in different directories
one in /public_html/rahktar/wiki
and the other in
/public_html/tagra/wiki 		[15:18]
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Meeso_OSMy wiki (the rahktar one) requires the email to put into the login form
even with everything correct
it still doesnt log me into my admin accoun
however
if I register on the Tagra wiki
with the same name as the admin on the rahkat wiki
it logs me into my wiki
:/
is there any way to fix this/
anyone? 		[15:20]
ricks99_does each tiki installation use its own database?
or are u using intertiki? 		[15:22]
Meeso_OSyes [15:23]
ricks99_yest to which? [15:23]
Meeso_OSrahktar is installed on wiki1
and tagra is installed to wiki2 		[15:23]
ricks99_which tiki release are you using? [15:23]
Meeso_OSlet me check
2.2
on both wikis 		[15:23]
ricks99_on rahktar, even though it asks for your email, use "admin" as the login (with your admin password) [15:24]
Meeso_OSok
I'm my admin account
does it matter
if its in 'admin' or not 		[15:24]
ricks99_are u logged into rahktar as "admin"? [15:25]
Meeso_OSyes
wait
not the user
I am on an admin accoun
t 		[15:25]
ricks99_go to the admin:login page [15:26]
Meeso_OSok
I'm in the admin account 		[15:26]
ricks99_change the remember me name to something else (i think tiki is getting confused because the remember me name is identical for both sites, and your on the same domain) [15:26]
Meeso_OSahh
ok 		[15:27]
ricks99_then clear all the tiki caches, and log out of rahktar
now try to log back in 		[15:27]
Meeso_OSwhere can I do that
with the remember me 		[15:27]
ricks99_? [15:27]
Meeso_OSnvm
I changed 'tikiwiki' to Rahktar
the remember me feature is diabled though
enable it? 		[15:27]
ricks99_dont think it matters. i think tiki still uses it as the cookiename [15:29]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15392 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX]trackerfilter: better handling of error [15:29]
Meeso_OSok
how do I clear the tiki caches
... 		[15:29]
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Meeso_OS... [15:31]
ricks99_Admin > Tiki Cache [15:32]
Meeso_OSok
I cleared them all
oh
I have one more problem, more of an annoyance
when I go to login
it asks me for my email
like
it says
username
then eMail
then Password
is there anyway to remove that 		[15:33]
ricks99_go to admin: login page
check ur settings for "use login as email" 		[15:34]
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Meeso_OSits unchecked
but
I did that before
and it asked for the email instead of the username
making me have to type the email twice 		[15:35]
ricks99_do u have challenge/response turned on? [15:36]
Meeso_OSyes [15:36]
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Meeso_OSthanks
I can log into tagra :D
:/ 		[15:36]
ricks99_:) [15:37]
lq_204Hi! I just installed TikiWIki 2.2. And I have made an admin account. But I can't find how to enable user registrations. I can add users manually from inside TikiWiki, but I would like users to register themselves. I looked in tiki-register.php. And it seems I need $prefs['allowregister'] to be yes for it to work. Where do I set prefs? [15:37]
ricks99_@lq_204: need to enable "users can register" option. pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/login+config [15:39]
Meeso_OS:/
thanks!
it fixed everything :D 		[15:39]
ricks99_np [15:41]
Meeso_OSoh
I have a slight little problem that really doesnt matter but I want to get rid of it
I think its limiting the quality of the images
I put it to its normal size
and it comes all blurry 		[15:43]
SEWilco2Buy a 42 inch monitor. Glad to help. [15:44]
lq_204ricks99_: Thanks! Now it works. Is the prefs stored somewhere that I could have tweaked without going through the user interface? Like if I want to add my own prefs flags. [15:44]
ricks99_lol
in the db: tiki_preferences table (i think) 		[15:44]
SEWilco2Is the image in an image directory? When you look at the image in the directory, does it look normal size and OK?
In what part of TikiWiki is the image "all blurry"? 		[15:45]
lq_204ricks99_: Ok. Thanks again. [15:45]
Meeso_OSthe whole image
it just looks bad 		[15:47]
ricks99_np [15:47]
Meeso_OSwhen I view it in windows
it looks fine
I enabled the file gallery
and I uploaded it
and I linked to it
it displays it
but
it looks small
heres a link
http://universedivided.co.cc/rahktar/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=X`Tor+Fighter
the actual dimensions are 320x240 		[15:47]
ricks99_u really should b using the image gallery -- not the file gallery [15:49]
Meeso_OSoh
how do I enable that 		[15:49]
ricks99_enable from admin > features. see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/image+gallery [15:50]
Meeso_OSthanks [15:52]
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SEWilco2Meeso_OS: But don't let that stop you from using it as an excuse to buy a bigger monitor. :-) [16:08]
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SEWilco2Offtopic but of interest: "TWiki.net Kicks Out All TWiki Contributors" http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/29/146201 [16:09]
lphuberdeau_good thing we have 3 additional letters [16:14]
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Meeso_OSI hae a 21 inch monitor O_o
its big enough for me
>_> 		[16:20]
SEWilco2Meeso_OS: One of your eyes is bigger than the other. Maybe you need two monitors of the same size. :-) [16:21]
Meeso_OS>_> [16:21]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15394 /trunk/tiki-editpage.php: [FIX] Correct color conversion [16:45]
robferguThis is for anybody, but mainly <marclaporte>OR<lphuberdeau>...is there a way for profiles to create group names based on user input? [16:46]
lphuberdeau_never tried that... [16:48]
ricks99not sure about profiles, but you can easily create a group for each user, based on their username [16:48]
lphuberdeau_but I don't really see why you would want to make the group name configurable in a profile [16:49]
robferguyeah it only wants to take hardcoded values
my situation is that i need to setup an event, and have a group created with the name of that event to hold materials related to the event in that group 		[16:49]
lphuberdeau_mostly a yaml constraint there.... [16:50]
robfergui tried the $profilerequest but didnt work [16:50]
lphuberdeau_hmmm... profile generated data is mostly for creating samples
not like you should install the same profile over again for reasons other than testing 		[16:50]
robferguits weird, im leveraging profiles purely for its automation conveinience [16:51]
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lphuberdeau_well, they were made to create a base set-up on different installs, not to install multiple times on the same install [16:54]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15395 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: allow to import field with reserved name like itemId [17:00]
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SEWilco2"File does not exist: /var/www/testsite/styles/transitions/1.9to2.1.css" [17:25]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15397 /trunk/lib/wiki/histlib.php: [ENH] Remove plugin and section edit icons in page history [17:44]
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Meeso_OSwhats a dynamic variable? [17:50]
JyhemA dynamic variable is some text you can include in a wiki pagern
Then you can program this text to change values at certain dates
and the wiki page will change at these dates 		[17:51]
marclaportedynamic content is what jyhem describes
dynamic variable is something else
...too many features... :-) 		[17:52]
snarlydwarfhow does one update mods... not locally, but things like the gmap mod which needs to handle the "new" (well, not very new) $prefs.foo instead of $foo handling?
installed gmap and had to kick it a ton to make it work right on trunk, so would be nice to save someone else the trouble 		[17:55]
Meeso_OSHow do I make a user page
that is seen on like wikipedia 		[17:56]
snarlydwarfMeeso_OS: /tiki-admin.php?page=wiki has the userpage settings [17:57]
Jyhemoops ! (now I wonder about dynamic variable, too) [17:58]
ricks99@Meeso_OS: enable "user's page" option on wiki: config. pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+config [17:59]
Meeso_OSok
to make a user page
I type
UserPage:Name?
or UserPageName 		[18:00]
ricks99@snarlydwarf: just push to svn? [18:00]
snarlydwarfricks99: hrrm, dunno, didnt get it from svn, but got it from Admin Mods menu
ie, mods.tw 		[18:01]
ricks99y. to update/add a new mod, it gets checked into svn.
then 'automagically' it appears on mods.tw.o
maybe 		[18:01]
snarlydwarfhttp://mods.tikiwiki.org/details.php?type=wikiplugins&mod=gmap [18:02]
ricks99u want to add new or update?
see docs: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiMods#How_to_add_your_own_mods 		[18:03]
snarlydwarfah i see
nifty
well update, since gmap no longer works 		[18:03]
Meeso_OShey
I can has halp 		[18:04]
snarlydwarf$prefs.gmap_key or whatever is fine, but it looks for $gmap_key directly, which no longer works [18:04]
Meeso_OS[13:59] <Meeso_OS> ok
[13:59] <Meeso_OS> to make a user page
[13:59] <Meeso_OS> I type
[13:59] <Meeso_OS> UserPage:Name?
[13:59] <Meeso_OS> or UserPageName 		[18:04]
ricks99did u enable the "user's pages" optin? [18:05]
Meeso_OSyes [18:05]
ricks99did u define a prefix? [18:05]
Meeso_OSyes
UserPage 		[18:05]
SEWilco2I need an image slideshow. I see mootools supports a slideshow, but I don't see how to activate one. After enabling mootools, my Image Galleries look the same. [18:05]
ricks99on each user's 'user informtion' page, there should now be a link to their userpage (or a link to create it, if they have edit permission) [18:06]
snarlydwarfjust UserPageusername then, Meeso_OS
or add a colon to your prefix if you want 		[18:06]
Meeso_OSok [18:06]
snarlydwarfif you are user fred, you can go to UserPagefred directly and edit, too, but no one else can
snarlydwarf doesnt use bookmarks or menus but just types urls... 		[18:07]
ricks99* need a "quick jump" module with droplist for wiki pages.... [18:08]
marclaporteMeeso_OS & Jyhem: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Variable
ricks99: I think lphuberdeau_ did that in trunk
ricks99: : with ajax to filter page name 		[18:12]
lphuberdeau_ricks99: check out the doc page for quick edit... instructions are there [18:14]
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SEWilco2smoothgallery.jondesign.net is nonfunctional, so I can't see how that is relevant to slideshows. [18:32]
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SEWilco2Hmm. FF crashed. Well, it is on Windows. *shrug* [18:35]
Meeso_OSlol [18:36]
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SEWilco2smoothgallery.jondesign.net's cache only shows Javascript incantations for slideshows. Is that integrated in TW yet? Only image slideshow seems to be in filegal (not imgal!?), and that doesn't require mootools be enabled.
What does enabling mootools add? 		[18:46]
lphuberdeau_in 2.x? no idea
but it will be mandatory in 3.x 		[18:47]
SEWilco2Yeah, I'm on 2.1. [18:51]
lphuberdeau_you should upgrade to 2.2... quite a few security fixes [18:52]
SEWilco2I see Shadowbox example shows a sequence number in the corner as if that is a slide show, so I'll try that. [18:52]
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SEWilco2How is "rel=shadowbox[gallery]" used? I see no shadowbox, only full sized image, with "rel=shadowbox", "rel=shadowbox[5]", "rel=shadowbox[gallery]"
and no difference with "rel=shadowbox gallery"
ditto "rel=shadowboxgallery" 		[19:05]
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SEWilco2ditto "rel=gallery" [19:07]
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SEWilco2{img src='http:show_image.php?id=7' rel='shadowboxgallery' title='1st Brigade, 34th Infantry'} [19:07]
lq_553I was wondering how do I get code to a dev for tikiwiki for a modification [19:07]
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lq_553 [19:13]
ricks99add it yourself :) http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access [19:15]
lq_553well my mod may not be the best :)
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=30807&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=4
i put it here :) you can take a look
I am not a great programmer, but if I have a need I can find a way to make it work ;)
But I am sure other people would find it useful 		[19:22]
SEWilco2Give a hint what it does so someone interested in that kind of thing will be interested in looking at it. [19:27]
lq_553I have made some modifications to the image upload procedure so it creates a timestamp in the file name. This will make it so people dont have to worry about having the same picture name as someone else. Thus overwriting the original picture: [19:29]
ricks99however, many times i *want* to overwrite an image, to update it
i would much prefer an alert that (1) tells the user an image already exists and (2) gives them the option of overwriting or creating new name 		[19:30]
SEWilco2ditto. Is there a difference, then, between initial upload or reupload? [19:31]
lq_553That would be nice :) [19:31]
ricks99i had hacked this together some time ago....
see http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=26&postId=318 for details
the other option is to use the image gallery to maintian wiki pictures.. much easier to 're' upload or overwrite 		[19:31]
SEWilco2I think image gallery supports previous versions, so an overwritten image is merely hidden. [19:33]
lq_553but if you have lets say 1000 plus users, and their all teenage students, who dont respect others things ;) Then I cant give them the option to overwrite a file, because they could just overwrite them all
and they would 		[19:33]
ricks99understood.
make it admin-configurable: (1) overwrite always, (2) rename always, or (3) prompt 		[19:34]
lq_553ahh good - [19:34]
SEWilco2Or create a separate gallery for each user; galleries can be configured to not allow others to upload to it. [19:35]
lq_553now the rename one was giving me the issues - I was using a timestamp because I could get that back into the javascript so it inserts the correct name in the editor [19:35]
ricks99* rick isnt sure if he likes galleries to manage wiki pictures... [19:36]
lq_553galleries are nice, but it requires another step... During quick collaboration I like one interface to upload pics and edit content etc [19:36]
ricks99image gallery introduces a lot of db overhead [19:36]
lq_553that as well
See with my code you dont have to re-edit your wiki text, it inserts the correct imagename when you browse for your pic... 		[19:36]
ricks99* rick also wonders why tiki hashes the filenames for file uploads, image uploads, and attachments, but not wiki pictures [19:39]
lq_553because you would have to create the hash before the image is actually uploaded
otherwise it would break the js that happens when you "browse" for a pic
IMO 		[19:40]
ricks99nahhh cant be it.. tiki hashes othe uploads on the fly
should be able to (internally) convert {img src=foo.gif} to {img src=adkfa8df7a98dfj} 		[19:40]
lq_553that would be great :)
but then really whats the difference than doing a timestamp?
I know you *could* have two people with the same filename start a page edit at the EXACT same second... 		[19:42]
SEWilco2Does JS have a CPU ID which could be hashed with timestamp?
Or just add a random number to timestamp. 		[19:45]
lq_553dunno [19:46]
ricks99i think duplication is too remote of a possiblity. i would rather have admin-configurable option: overwrite, rename, or prompt [19:47]
SEWilco2There are HWI22NOKHUA kinds of people: those who hash and those who don't. [19:47]
ricks99would take care of 99% of users [19:47]
lq_553hrmm, but still with the prompt - you have to manually modify your wiki page and insert the correct number... unless it would parse it for you... [19:48]
SEWilco2"Your image upload has been selected for a random prompt. Monkey or not?" [19:49]
ricks99no. tiki would (should) do this automatically.
"An image with the name FOO already exists. Please enter a new name: _____" 		[19:49]
lq_553that would work ...
We just seem to have alot of duplicate image issues... we have only been using it for 3 weeks and have had multiple pics overwritten...
lots of "capture.jpg" :)
well I guess I will keep my mod to myself :) - then it wont screw anyone up. 		[19:51]
SEWilco2The mod just needs the config checkbox. I think "Hello World" mentions checkboxes. [19:55]
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SEWilco2"All Images" seems to assume a certain thumbnail size. Mine are overlapping.
.. on 2.1 		[20:12]
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Meeso_OSI am using the darkroom.css theme
when I launch the live support thing
for testing
the text shows up in black text 		[20:38]
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Meeso_OShow so I change this?
*do 		[20:39]
marclaportepolom [20:40]
Meeso_OS? [20:41]
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grobda24Meeso_OS, use Firebug to find what CSS element to change. [20:48]
Meeso_OSok [20:50]
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lq_553I guess I will work on a config/checkbox thing for my mod...
back to hello world ... 		[21:27]
cool - so I can just add feature of lets say - 'feature_wiki_pictures_timestamp' and do an if statement in the tiki-editpage.php of if ($prefs['feature_wiki_pictures_timestamp'] != 'y') and I would be in business?
err ($prefs['feature_wiki_pictures_timestamp'] != 'n') 		[21:38]
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im lost - cant seem to find the correct docs to add features with 2.2 [21:54]
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snarlydwarfaaaaaargh
"we need to have a live chat thing on the website! so viewers can come ask an expert!"
"you do realize that the nature of 'live chat' means you will need to staff it?"
that scared them... "oh, so what about people asking questions and having answers?"
"um, like comments Okay..."
or maybe forums...
silly people 		[23:30]
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