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btiffin: Hello; I have a bag of documents in ReStructuredText format. Any advice on an import sequence to tikiwiki text?
<br> And, is there a path from tikiwiki text back to ReST?
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 15493 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_box.php: [ENH] 1em default margin added to floated box's text-wrapped sides.
btiffin: Anyone know of ways to convert from ReStructuredText to tikiwiki text. Pandoc to mediawiki then mediawiki to tikiwiki?
chibaguy: btiffin, There's some info on Mediawiki to Tikiwiki conversion here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/MediaWiki+to+TikiWiki+converter .
<br> I don't know about ReStructuredText, though.
<br> There was an online HTML-to-Tiki converter that could be a middle step, but I'm not sure if it's still around or still useful.
btiffin: Thanks chibaguy ... I don't mind a two step conversion. Pandoc can convert from rst to mw, so I'll try it. As long as I can get the team on tikiwiki I think I'll be a happy camper... ;)
<br> Next one; From Admin Mods; I'm getting an error installing the phpFreeChat module. Do I bother, or do we just keep an IRC channel for chats?
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chibaguy: Last I heard, phpFreeChat doesn't work. You can use the minichat module, though.
<br> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Module%20minichat&structure=Documentation
btiffin: Thanks again. Would you recommend chat inside tikiwiki? We're pretty used to IRC at this stage
chibaguy: But this needs 'feature_minichat' to be 'y' in the tiki_preferences table of the database, though, so you have to add this row by hand (no admin gui in 2.2
<br> If your users are already ok with irc, there's no reason to switch, probably.
btiffin: Might put that feature on hold till we come to grips with the product. Lots to come to grips with. ;)
chibaguy: Sure.
btiffin: Now; for something completely different. I'm a fan of interactive fiction. Inform7 is just too much fun. What would be the expected effort (quick guestimates allowed) behind a module wrapping frotz? (Can you tell I'm new?) :)
chibaguy: Hmm. If you just need to put the Inform7 in a Tiki site, you can use an iframe of course. If you need to share authentication, etc., it would take custom coding.
<br> (Well, I know nothing about Inform7, though....)
btiffin: Thanks again; these are all newb questions. That'll change as we build up some expertise. Just so ya know, I'm planning on moving a group of OpenCOBOL programmers to a tikiwiki collaboration tool. Looking forward to it...
<br> yeah, Inform7 would simply be for fun.
chibaguy: OK, sounds good.
btiffin: On that; mw was dirt easy getting a hook for a REBOL metatag, where do I start looking to get info on adding an OpenCOBOL hook (CGI apps mainly) into tikiwiki?
chibaguy: You should ask again in 6 or 8 hours, when more devs are active here. I'm not hardcore in that sense. :-)
<br> You can edit templates/header.tpl to change the html head section.
<br> ...if normal metatag config isn't enough (tiki-admin.php?page=metatags).
btiffin: Thanks again chibaguy. You've given me enough ammo to occupy my time for those hours. :)
chibaguy: You're welcome.
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luciash: polom polom !
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: hey gary, i'm glad i woke up to catch you ;)
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: got my mail ?
PS|bot: SVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 15494 /branches/2.0/tests/test_cvs_file.txt: [TEST] Test commit from http://tikiwiki.org/EC2
marclaporte: hi all!
luciash: hi marc :)
marclaporte: polom luci
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: got your mail reply but i don't understand it; is there some attachment missing ?
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marclaporte: did you get pdF?
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luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: nope
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: there's no pdf attached
chibaguy: hi luciash and marclaporte :-)
<br> yes, luciash, I got it.
luciash: cool
chibaguy: Basically, I think we need to continue the process already started: dump remaining old themes, make sure newer ones are as good as possible, etc.
<br> Also the new theme should be *litecss-based, to conform.
<br> I agree with you and Nyloth (now) that there should be just one tiki.tpl in the core files. The table-using ones can be Mods only.
<br> I'll document table-using tiki.tpl ideas that I'm using, but this type doesn't need to be in the core files.
luciash: i think i need to write/draw better and simplified version of explanation how the *lite base works
chibaguy: The diagram you had already was good, I think.
luciash: can you explain how clearfix works ?
<br> yup, but i think it got simplified/changed a little in the recent *lite css code or at the xhtml level
<br> does clearfix work in MSIE too ?
chibaguy: I'll try. I need to look again at the on-web docs. Basically it's like adding a <br style="clear:all"> at the end of a div, using :after.
<br> I'll check again about MSIE. I believe it works.
luciash: ah, does MSIE need something or it doesn't need the clearing at all ?
<br> i thought :after is not supported by IE6
chibaguy: There's a "* html .clearfix {height: 1%}" in the clearfix CSS lines, so I guess it is supported.
<br> Anyway, checking with ie6 doesn't show any particular problem, IIRC.
luciash: well, height: 1% looks like a workaround for MSIE ;)
<br> no :after there
chibaguy: Yep, a workaround.
luciash: ok
<br> i think 3.0 templates should go xhtml-strict, what do you think
<br> it doesn't fully validate in 2.2 xhtml-transitional anyway
<br> so we will not break anything
chibaguy: Probably so, but I'm too ignorant to have a good opinion. ;-)
marclaporte: Cloud computing anyone?
<br> http://tikiwiki.org/EC2
<br> two live instances!
<br> http://ec2-75-101-188-249.compute-1.amazonaws.com
<br> http://ec2-67-202-49-227.compute-1.amazonaws.com
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<br> chibaguy definitely has large empty spaces where knowledge should be. ;-)
luciash: np, we all have :)
chibaguy: Speaking of which, I wonder what those links marclaporte posted are all about..... ;-)
luciash: maybe in 3.0 we could introduce simple favicon image upload too ? lots of sites seem to use default favicon because there's no other simple way than ftp/ssh to change it ?
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: LOL, almost the same here ;)
marclaporte: and logo
luciash: i just quickly checked and it must be some 3rd party way of running stuff without installing locally ?
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: yep, or choose it from Tiki galleries
chibaguy: Yes, that'd be good.
<br> (either upload form or choose from gallery)
<br> marclaporte, do you know the status of Patrick's theme for Tiki?
marclaporte: <u>luci</u>: and now pdf?
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: : you can see slow progress at profiles.tikiwiki.org
chibaguy: OK. Actually I got the images and layout from there and did a litecss version more or less, to have it ready as things proceed, for an easier transition to Tiki 3.
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: yes, now it's there, thank you !
chibaguy: Not to step on any toes, of course. Was just kind of an exercise for me. But maybe it can be useful. The theme should conform to current Tiki (3) files, etc.
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: i have strong opinions against the logo patrick made
chibaguy: luciash, what do you mean?
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: first, if we decide to change something important like the shape of the Tiki application logo, there should be some contest to choose from maybe
<br> second i think the design by patrick looks too heavy and over-bolded compared to the mose's one
<br> or did i miss some process of choosing the new logo ? i was just very surprised when i saw the pictures that you made t-shirts and all the stuff out of it for the washington d.c. tiki booth
<br> i appreciate patrick's work but maybe we should decide about it as a community ?
-: chibaguy hopes TikiFest Montreal can help integrate things....
marclaporte: yes that is why we are all investing time in this tikifest
chibaguy: What is the situation of magic admin interface. Is it still being developed?
luciash: great, it would be very unfortunate to completely change the logo and branding look without discussion
chibaguy: The overall layout/design can be separate from the logo question, so no momentum is lost. Maybe if there is a choice to make, we can have a poll after TikiFest, and a decision before Tiki 3.
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: christine worked on it, dunno how recently, but i was willing to help her as she offered me accommodation at her place i thought there could be occassion to improve and fix stuff together
marclaporte: about process: don't imagine that there was this elaborate decision making meeting and you were not invited
<br> it sorta happened chaotically
chibaguy: Since marketing is a main topic for the tikifest, this kind of thing would be included, to be clarified, etc.
<br> (guidelines for logo use, etc.)
<br> Or at least confirming a common understanding.
marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/EC2 -> works!
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: : yes
<br> there was a meeting about the shirts
<br> I was not really involved
<br> but it was design by commitee
<br> with many people expressing conflicting points of view
<br> and in the end, Patrick did what he could with the constraints he had
<br> the problem is that we have no style guide
<br> no marketing plan
<br> and several exisiting logos floating around
luciash: good we have this upcoming TikiFest :)
marclaporte: :-) :-)
chibaguy: :-) :-) :-)
marclaporte: I see one benefit
<br> and one risk
<br> <u>benefit</u>: like in tikifest Strasbourg, most developers were all coming to the table with changes they wanted in the community
<br> 1- more structure in where to commit, 2- predictable release schedule, etc
<br> now, there was no argument, because previous lack of structure showed its limits
<br> so everyone wanted more guidelines
<br> a healty evolution
<br> healthy
<br> now,,,
<br> dev is easier than design
<br> because, when we have different views, we just make optional
<br> and let users decide in their context
<br> for UI , design , logo, etc. we need more convergence
<br> we can't really have several strategies
<br> and our branding must work WorldWide
<br> We don't have resources for alternate approach per market
<br> So
<br> In 4 days, we must agree on as many things as possible
<br> and find middle ground on the rest
luciash: well, still we can make some proposals and guidelines in these 4 days and then let the community of devs decide on the web site(s)
chibaguy: I think one important thing is how the agreements and decisions are presented to the non-attending Tiki community. (Dang, lucash beat me again.)
luciash: *g* :)
chibaguy: er lucash -> luciash
marclaporte: hehe
<br> well, we'll be quite representative
<br> too bad Ricks99 can't make it
<br> otherwise, most people interested in marketing will be there
<br> missing amette too
chibaguy: Maybe what conclusions should be "proposals," not "decisions". The idea is that they are tentative, subject to feedback from other devs, users.
marclaporte: I am not against that
<br> I want large feedback
<br> but someone has to take the lead on that
<br> it's a lot of work
<br> Most of the decisions in Strasbourg were never written down
<br> yet, they influence project
<br> because the people that were there reached a meeting of the minds
luciash: yeah, i don't like to decide anything for anybody but rather make proposals to make it easier for the community to decide then...
marclaporte: who is the community?
chibaguy: So somehow the discussions or at least main points need to be written down.
luciash: people involved in the development
chibaguy: I would say primarily devs and involved users that can't make it to tikifest.
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marclaporte: hehe
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luciash: ok :D
chibaguy: or is that a minus? ;-)
luciash: i think Strasbourg TikiFest was very valuable and good decisions were made but there was this subtle feeling of dancing on the edge while deciding for the people not participating
marclaporte: I will argue that indecision can also be bad
luciash: imho we should communicate as much as possible, especially this time
marclaporte: +1
<br> but we just have to be realistic about what we can do
<br> we have limited resources
luciash: sure
marclaporte: we have to balance action and consultation/communication
<br> For example, do we want to go with more corporate/serious branding or a more funky/ youthful one
luciash: lets call them proposals and decide when we return home and the dust will settle down ;)
chibaguy: I think we can try to put main points/accomplishments on a tikifest report page. Even "decisions" that are made basically without feedback. At least then it is clear that this was discussed and decided, and if others in the community have a concern, they can feed back then.
luciash: don't rush anything, especially if we have to make it in 4 days
<br> +1
marclaporte: and we should set targets
<br> reverse planning
<br> we need new theme and whole new branding strategy for 3.0
<br> dev team has a plan to get everything in on time
<br> we need the same for marketing :-)
<br> did you guys read SWOT yet?
luciash: yup yup, nope, i have read the e-mail about it though :-p
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luciash: what SWOT does stand for ? :D
marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/SWOT
chibaguy: I read through quickly but need to go back read again.
marclaporte: back to your question: no one is working on Magic now
luciash: brb, i promised i'll put some heating on here
marclaporte: Christine is unavailable until further notice
chibaguy: As long as the maitai party is still on.... ;-)
<br> (Just kidding.)
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marclaporte: hehe
<br> yes, works for party
<br> she may come a bit a tikifest
<br> but she doesn't have as much time for this anymore
<br> maybe meeting everyone will help :-)
chibaguy: I was wondering if the collaboration model wasn't a good fit.
marclaporte: adaptation period
<br> guys, while I have you here
luciash: re
marclaporte: two points I want to get accross for tikifest
chibaguy: I felt similar things when others started changing 'my' themes. :-)
marclaporte: hehe
<br> 1- marketing & themes is __by far__ what is holding back the project
chibaguy: Gotta realize others have good ideas, too. ;-)
marclaporte: it's a tough job because of all the features
<br> it's easy to make nice theme for a blog
<br> it's easy to make a nice theme for a project
luciash: that's why we need simplification/consistency
<br> in tpls
chibaguy: definitely
marclaporte: it's very diffcult to make a nice theme that will adapt to all the cases
<br> 1-2-3 colums
<br> top / no top
<br> all the features, etc
<br> So our theme challenge is massive
<br> and I thing new themes are right on track
<br> and if we need to break stuff for better 3.o themes, now is the time to do it
<br> I know some stuff was broken already, to improve top-bar and all
chibaguy: OTOH, new stuff like the forum layout revision adds a lot of new CSS, so it's an ongoing battle.
marclaporte: so the future of the project, it's growth is a lot on you two (luci & chibaguy)
<br> So you must be in a mode "what do we need for themes?" so as to make clear wishlist for devs
chibaguy: It seems the devs ar mainly all have a similar view -- to simply CSS and make it more uniform, etc.
marclaporte: do devs and theme designers agree?
<br> ok, second thing
<br> related to themes
chibaguy: I don't recall any real disagreements. AFAIK, keeping inline css to a minimum, everybody agrees about. That eliminates some problems for designers.
marclaporte: please see: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tikiwiki%2C+drupal%2C+joomla%2C+wordpress%2C+plone
<br> a few years ago, tikiwiki was the same size as these other projects
<br> of course, these are most successful projects
<br> now, they are showing us the potential of what we can do
luciash: hmmm, i have seen it already somewhere ;)
marclaporte: hehe, yes on SWOT
<br> now
chibaguy: We need to keep these trends in context. A single-purpose, specialized tool is likely to be more popular than a multipurpose tool like Tiki.
<br> (I know you know that already, of course.)
marclaporte: I disagree
chibaguy: hehe
marclaporte: these tools are not single purpose
<br> plone, joomla and drupal are very much multi-purpose, like us
luciash: heh, i thought you disagree on something else marc .-p
marclaporte: even more single purpose tools -> http://www.google.com/trends?q=tikiwiki%2C+twiki%2C+moinmoin%2C+dokuwiki%2C+pmwiki
luciash: i thought you disagree that specialized tool is likely to be more popular ;)
marclaporte: I think better marketed tool will be more popular
<br> much more than if it's single or multi-purpose
chibaguy: Well, I'll add something on another level here. I think user experience it Tiki vs. other software needs to be considered. There've been quite a few frustrated new users encountering things that don't work or work easily. Instead of adding new features, we need to be sure everything works 100% and there's no bad bugs on first install.
luciash: there was always been confusion for me what i prefer more... first i liked mozilla e-mail integration, then i thought firefox and separate thunderbird is much faster and cooler to have, then i realized i bloated my firefox by all of these cool extensions again :-p
marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: : +1 hahahaha
chibaguy: Like can't use javascript, having trouble with registration, logins not working, etc.
<br> The basic functionality should be really solid.
btiffin: Umm, as an old guy, don't fear popularity. Use systems for "competitive edge". Most times, the competitve edge is not the most popular.
marclaporte: chibaguy : +1, you noticed that I gave "First impression / New users / Ease of installation" a fail (E)
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: isn't it what i keep saying from the beginning of my participation in the project ? the problem is without good proposals and guidelines nobody cared and added what was on his plate of taste
<br> ;)
btiffin: I'm with chibaguy though. A solid first experience (and I'll say mine has been ... even with Konqueror) will keep attention of the 'check it out' crowd.
chibaguy: Of course it isn't either/or. We should have a solid product, good first experience . . ._and_ the shiny marketing. :-)
<br> The marketing of course has to be about a solid project, or else it is just empty words. So we need to make/keep the software solid, and this will make the marketing easier, more natural.
marclaporte: the software is solid
chibaguy: I'm often reluctant to suggest Tiki to somebody because I'm aware of the problems they'll have. This isn't good.
marclaporte: as solid as anything out there
<br> it's the finishing touch that is missing in many places
chibaguy: Well, sometimes that finishing touch is, for example, a db column misnaming that causes a problem for adding new users.
marclaporte: ah yes
<br> granted
<br> one of things which is sub-optimal is error-reporting
<br> hard crashes should send error message to tw.o (optional)
<br> so we have a permanent list of top-10 issues
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: : I think many of these things are leftovers of too long release cycles
luciash: great to catch you here both guys... sorry, i have to run for my daily job now... i'll keep watching and be later back again though. c u then ! :)
marclaporte: later!
chibaguy: OK, luciash, cya later. :-)
marclaporte: most developers were not using the same potion as end users
<br> because release cycle was too long
<br> ex.: Strasbourg crew never used 1.9.x
chibaguy: It would be good if testing could be more systematic. I don't know if that can be done with a software tool, or if some method needs to be used by devs and power users.
marclaporte: <u>chibaguy</u>: : 2.x has testing engine
<br> just need to record tests
<br> and have a test server
chibaguy: I know I should have a better checklist for theme-related things. I tend to pay less attention to features I don't use, for example
<br> Yes, I need to check out that testing engine, too.
marclaporte: install / upgrade / users / permisions / etc -> these things that we all use need to have higher standard than the rest
chibaguy: Right. If those things are buggy, none of the rest matters.
<br> I wonder how Tiki Tests works. I activated it, but don't see anything new (seems to me it has some page-top code.) (using PHP 5.2.5)
marclaporte: I made a profile
<br> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiTests
<br> use that in 3.0
<br> or add module manually in 2.x
chibaguy: ok
marclaporte: brb
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chibaguy: Note for marclaporte: Even before the marketing "how," we need to have an answer for "why" IMHO. This relates to the goals of the project. I'm thinking maybe some devs and users don't care if SomeOther CMS has a google trend 10x Tiki's. I suppose some ask why bother with that chase. If there is a good reason to bother, this should be spelled out. (I admit I'm behind on the reading. ;-) )
<br> bbl
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15495 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] surveys: move some code of tiki-take_survey.php into lib/surveys/surveylib.php register_answers() function to be able to reuse it
<br> SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 15496 /trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] new survey wiki-plugin (to include a survey into a wiki page)
GillesMM: hi
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GillesMM: is your file upload working on 3.0 ?
<br> I got the picture moving without stopping
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15498 /trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker.tpl: [FIX]tracker: rating was sometimes erasing some other field
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stix: hi guys. When I try to upload a 9MB .pps file in the file-gallery, it loads for a while and then I'm thrown back to the gallery. No error occurs but obviously the file is not uploaded?
<br> I can upload 3MB files with no problems.
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david455: Is it possible to have staging for just a subset of wiki pages?
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nikhilodeon: hi, can anyone tell me how to convert the lastModif field in the tiki_pages table into a mm/yy/dddd format? i have tried various functions in php / sql to no avail
SEWilco2: <u>luciash</u>: On Unix/Linux we could have favicon.png as symbolic link to a_writeable_directory/favicon.png ? Then provide an upload tool for it?
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ricks99: @nikhilodeon: did u set ur preferred date/time in the admin: general?
SEWilco2: <u>stix</u>: PHP has limits on upload file size, memory usage, and the process may also have a time limit.
<br> <u>stix</u>: There's documentation someplace on configuring PHP for TikiWiki.
<br> <u>stix</u>: Because you can upload 3MB but not 9MB, I suspect your PHP file size limit.
<br> <u>stix</u>: The configuration file might be in /etc/php5/apache2.
nikhilodeon: ricks99 - i hadn't, but this is how all the lastModif values are currently stored - 1225662892
PS|bot: SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15500 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: sort on rating must be done in numeric
ricks99: yes. the are stored as unix date values
<br> u can set the site-wide date/time default format.
<br> pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=General%20Admin
nikhilodeon: i see - is there an easy way to convert this to a mm//dd/yyyy format?
ricks99: set your format as %m/%d%/%Y
david455: Is it possible to have staging for just a subset of wiki pages?
SEWilco2: <u>david455</u>: If staging is handled by a permission, you could attach that permission to a Group and then use categorized permission on pages.
<br> <u>david455</u>: It's something you'll have to test to confirm if it can be done and how to do it. The "categorized" permissions can be tricky, including whether the "all" flags in Admin should be on or off.
<br> Sorry. "all" flag, not flags. There's one Admin flag to indicate whether all categorized permissions must match, or only one must match.
<br> <u>david455</u>: I don't remember where the "categorized" documentation is, but search for that word in doc.tw.o for it.
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nikhilodeon_: ricks99 : thanks for the tip, but i am actually just looking for a function outside of the tiki gui, to which i can pass the lastModif value, and display it on a custom-built php page
ricks99: just use the tiki_short_date modifier
<br> {$foo|tiki_short_date}
SEWilco2: If you're going to be totally outside TikiWiki, you can feed the Unix time value to PHP's date() function. I don't know how you specify the timezone.
nikhilodeon_: SEWilco2 - thanks; yeah it'd be best if i could do it outside tikiwiki
ricks99: having problems with 2.2.... i cannot seem to add a poll/rating to a wiki page. each time i save the page (after adding the poll template), tiki removes it
<br> have tested with different themes... can't get a poll rating to remain 'saved'
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ricks99: anyone get wiki ratings to work in 2.2?
SEWilco2: <u>ricks99</u>: Clear your Tiki cache?
ricks99: y.
<br> subsequent re-edit of the page shows the field blank :(
<br> it is as though it is not being saved in the db
SEWilco2: <u>ricks99</u>: I guess you get to vote often. :-) :-(
ricks99: vote early - vote often, eh?
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SEWilco2: Is a cookie used to remember that you already voted? I don't know how the ratings blocks revoting.
ricks99: misunderstanding -- when i edit the wiki page, and add a poll for rating, then click SAVE, the wiki page does *not* have the poll. if i re-edit the page, the Use Poll.. .field is blank
SEWilco2: Oh. Good, at least the voting process itself isn't involved your uproblem.
<br> I recently tested Ratings in 2.1 and it worked on a Wiki page. I haven't implemented it yet on Articles, where I need it.
<br> You did create a Template Poll for Wiki, didn't you?
ricks99: y.
<br> i can select it when i edit the wiki page. but when i save, then re-edit, my select is gone
SEWilco2: Does editing the content of the Wiki page still work?
ricks99: trying with 2.1....
SEWilco2: Is the poll visible in Preview?
ricks99: not in preview (but i dont think it ever was).
<br> works in 2.1
<br> anyone have 2.2 they can confirm this bug?
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15501 /trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): [NEW] Pref: 'style_option' to allow different versions of styles/themes to be made easily HOW-TO:
<br> Add directory called "options" inside the /styles/$style_base dir containing CSS files with modifications to the base style (see /styles/tikineat/options/ for initial examples).
<br> New drop down menu automatically appears on the Look & Feel admin page with these filenames (plus "None") if found. TO-DO: More work on the new CSS files (currently very basic) Add options for other styles Add to Magic admin...
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sylvieg: does somebody understand this syntax in wikiplugin_flash: $js= <<<JS (lph is not arouind :-()
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gferreira: hello folks
<br> my modules are broken, maybe someone can help me fix it? :-)
<br> when i click on admin > modules, i get an error screen saying "An error occured in a database query!"
<br> it has worked before. i am running tw 2.2
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sylvieg: and what is the error?
gferreira: i've put the query here: http://sh.nu/p/25045
<br> the error page also says: "You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT `contentId`, count(*) AS `future` FROM `tiki_programmed_"
<br> any clue about what is causing the error? :-)
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aoirthoir: ok peeps IO am going to install tikiwiki tonight for one of my sites
gferreira: ...still trying to solve my problem with modules. is there a way to 'reset' modules in the database? i don't mind having to create new modules... my big problem right now is, i can't access the "admin modules" page at all because of the error
<br> ok, will try on the mailing list. thanks anyway!
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sylvieg: he left :_(
<br> to bad for him'
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by gillesm :: r 15502 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] bug fixes in fileupload and modifications in alert (folliwing the remarks in the mailing list)
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