I've had enough people yell at me for committing code...I'll leave it.  I think we need to adjust our release philosophy though.  If I had to go through 6 more months of that slow performance when there could just as easily be 3 indexes added to an upgrade patch, I'd have gone nuts and my users would have skewered me.
Not everybody is as savvy as us on the back-end to directly update those indexes though
like me:-)
well, I guess you guys could coach me through it...haha
by the way syvieg.   Adding that if (!function_exists('galsize')) { function galsize(){...} } to the tikilib fixed my problem...ty
hello how can I put a user in a wiki page with a link to send a messu ? 
GilesMM: What do you mean by "put a user in a wiki page"?
SEWilco:  display a user with link added to send it a message on click
GilesMM: If you mean put a user name in a wiki page, linked to send the users a message, find the URL to send the msg and use [tiki-sending-URL|SomeUserName] -- will display as "SomeUserName"
ok 
I don't know the URL to send a msg, you'll have to find the "send a private message" URL someplace.
tiki-user_information.php?userId=1468
If you say so.  I don't know if a name option exists... we have so many number-based services.
it is perfect 
Is there a way, on a wiki page to specify permisions for a *part* of the page?   So, if a person is anonymous, they won't see certain links/images/text, but will see other relevent parts of the pages.   If they are registered, then they see the hidden text/images/links.      
Hello; Where I put a (trivial) plugin for people to try and critique?
Where I put.  Yeah, good grammar;  Where do I put ...
polom polom from mtl :-)
luciash, you have arrived in montreal?
hi all
I'm wondering how to upgrade the mysql db when upgrading tiki from 2.0 to 2.1 or 2.2, etc.
I  can't find any more that file type 2.0to2.1.sql , etc
and we are seeing mysql errors in our server, after sys admins migrated the mysql to a new server, etc.
Hi xav1. What are the options on tiki-install.php? Or are you not using that method?
(Er, xavi1)
hi chibaguy :-)
through tiki-install.php (I just tried as option b), it failed, complaining about...
The reason I ask is because at some point, there is just "automatic update" or some such phrase in the install page. But maybe this is in trunk.
...Fatal error:  Cannot redeclare extracttoppath() (previously declared in /home/httpd/tiki110/db/local.php:64) in /home/httpd/tiki110/db/local.php on line 67
it's a multitiki on subdirectories on the server.
I alway fear too much "automatic processess"
because they tend not to cover all the diversity of situations....
like multitiki in subdirectories, as I presume in this case
You're right, there is no 2.0->2.2 sql file to run in Tiki 2.2.
so that's why I was desperately looking for the manual update, as always
lphuberdeau_: are you around? see above
I need some help
Well, you could compare the 2.2 tiki.tpl to the 2.0 tiki.tpl and add or change tables accordingly. Winmerge is a nice program on Windows for this kind of thing.
Kind of labor-intensive, though.
it's a production site, there is a mysql errro  while editing a tracker field, I thought upgrading, we are using 2.something on a multitiki on sibdirectories install, and I'm afraid of upgrading to 2.2 if there is such error with the "automatic process" on such multitiki...
chibaguy, thanks for the tip, I know (I'm kind of out of time with my new job teaching)
Well, maybe was a little help. 
I'm not exactly sure if that is in 2.2 already, or still just in trunk.
ok, thanks for the info, anyways. In any case, it's not clear to me (and for sure, not clear to new admins) how to update to 2.2. Maybe it's not needed to upgrade db since there are (are there?) changes to the dabase schema...
and then, I0'm just hitting a mysql bug, then, on the 2.x branch. 
Ok, I'll upgrade to 2.2, and if it still happens this mysql error, then report the bug
thanks for the feedback, chibaguy
btw, since you are attending to the TikiFestMontreal (aren't you?)...
... please suggest to everybody to do their best to take care of doc.tw.o and update the info on whatever they are doing on 3.0.... otherwise, we'll be in April'09, and documentation will still be somewhere between 1.9.x and 2.x as it is nowadays (with some nice expceptions covering 3.x stuff: sylvieg, marclaporte, lph, ...)
Ah, good point about maybe no db schema changes. Now that you mention it, I think maybe only db bugfixes in the upgrades....
chibaguy ^
yes, I thought that this could be the reason...
I'm leaving for TikiFest in 12 hours or so, and, yes, I'll tell them xavi demands that they document. ;-)
(Well, I won't word it like that exactly. ;-) )
:-) thanks, Gary
enjoy the Fest! (a pity I can't attend)
I'm very very glad that you can attend it... as sylvieg, and as many others.... this is going to be a BIG event for Tikiwiki Community!
Thanks. I wish you could be there. And also others. But I hope the communication will be good. It's important to let the rest of the community know what's going on.
I think lessons are learned each time.
Have you actually tried the sclipo.com SclipoLive sessions? I haven't found out yet how to do that. I watched the video, but can't find the menu items/page for it. I sent an email for help but need to check on the reply (typically, forgot my password).
Anyway, if we can't get a streaming video going, we will at least have video files to watch.
yes
sclipo: just made a trial days ago
chibaguy: I just made a trial: http://sclipo.com/video/how-to-master-tikiwiki-structures-wiki-books
(adding some short audio to a video from last tikifest - using KDEnlive <---- thanks to amette who told me about this program, and matbic who tought me the basics of video editing)
Ah, I remembered my password and now can read the reply to my message. I see I need to request by email to do a sclipolive lesson.
sylvieg , fyi: the option in tracker item to allow setting which groups can view and/or edit a field is buggy: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2140
I have to leave, cheers
I want to add a flash splash-screen on the start page in my TikiWiki (version 2.2), what is the recommended way of doing that?  I have googled some and found references to both swffix and flowplayer this far.
lq_418, the FLASH wikiplugin is probably the easiest way.
Ah!  I had not seen that one.  Will try it.  Thanks!
SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 15611 /trunk/ (get_strings.php lib/init/tra.php): [ENH] get_strings.php: now fully handle punctuations at the end of strings (to reduce duplicates). This was already supported by 'tra' function, but not enough by get_strings.php.  
SVN:  Commit by pkdille :: r 15609 /trunk/templates/tiki-calendar.tpl: [MOD] indenting file  
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15612 /trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker.tpl: typo  
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15613 /trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX]missing global  
polom again :)
chibaguy: hey gary
ready to flight ?
i enabled the "hide email" option in the wiki admin page, but the full email is still show 'in the clear' in the text. screen scrapers can easily steal it. shouldn't it somehow be obfuscated?
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15614 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]error: 401 and 403 are both used for perms denied + repalce the \{php\} + some layout form darkroom  
xavi gone.... there are no scripts for point releases because there are no db changes in those releases
SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15615 /trunk/setup_smarty.php: [FIX]allow basename in smarty function  
SVN:  Commit by pkdille :: r 15610 /trunk/templates/ (poll.tpl tiki-calendar.tpl): [MOD] some smarty buttons  
luciash, hi. Basically ready, but I still have one night and morning until the flight.
SVN:  Commit by adren67 :: r 15616 /trunk/ (49 files in 43 dirs): [FIX] first round of removal of space suffix in translation strings (60 more to go)  
ricks99_, that would be a regressive bug, then? Wasn't it possible to obfuscate, before?
chibaguy: ah, right :)
luciash, where are you staying?
chibaguy: got pm
@chibabuy: don't know.. how did it work before?
Maybe I'm thinking of email in the user info page.
i mean in a wiki page. if i type foo@bar.com, i get the js for the mailto functionality, but the email is still shown in the clear on the page -- making it too easy for screen scraper to steal.
at a minimum, shouldnt tiki change to to something like: foo(at)bar(dot).com
ricks99_: i thought it was one of the options
i see no options. on admin: wiki there is only a single checkbox: protect email
ricks99_: seems someone simplified it, i remember there were more options before somewhere
im talking about email in a wiki page -- not a tracker field
ah, i was thinking more about e-mail on tiki-contact page but i thought it's tiki-wide
tiki correcty uses the js protectEmail inplace of the mailto:, and correcly uses <noscript>foo at bar . com</script>....
on wiki page i never seen it would work like that (putting (at) automagically) but it would be nice improvement to have it and specify the format too in the admin
y. otherwise a screenscrapter can still pull the email address
anyway i thought screescrapters are not that common in e-mail harvesting
hm... easy mod in tiki-js.js.....
Howdy, I had a relativly old installation of tiki up and running some time ago, however after a server move it is not working, going to the site gives me a 'Tikiwiki is not properly set up'. All files and DB were moved over. According to doc.tw.o I should get past that screen to be able to enter the new DB info, but even after following all directions re:permissions I can't get past that screen
any help would be appreciated
did u go to tiki-install.php and reset your connection information?
when I try to do that, it takes me back to that same page "Tikiwiki is not properly set up:" "The directory '' does not exist"
can u confirm that the directory does, in fact, exist?
which directory is that?
'' <-- doesn't tell me much ?
whichever directory it says that does not exist
it doesn't tell me what directory, just says "The directory '' does not exist"
heh
if I knew what directory '' was I would've checked that first >_>
that's weird
unless it is a directory named ''?
try to run setup.sh if you can
did that 
version 1.9.7 (CVS) -Sirius- <-- from README if that makes any difference
is there anything in the server logs ?
nada
the list of required directories is in tiki-install.php... can u confirm that they all actually exist?
Maybe it's a file or image directory?  It could be pointing to a nonexistent old location.
you should get 2.2 for security reasons, put it in new directory, backup your db and try to upgrade the current db to it
 $dirs=array(
Or the old file/image gal dir was in unicode?  I recently moved a system and had some text look funky on the new system.
^that list?
y
check ur docroot, too
Khalsa: then you can move your old customized files and images to it
ok confirmed all those directories exist
out of ideas :(
luciash: so put 2.2 in a seperate location, put old db in, then try to install it over old db?
yup, i'm not sure though you can go with upgrade directly from 1.9.7
but give it a try
okay
first apply 1.8to1.9, then 1.9to2.0
there were some 1.9.x.x releases in between, i don't remember which needed db upgrade
1.9.7 is really old
hi luis :)
in Montreal yet?
yup yup :) s/yet/already :)
enjoy your stay, I'll see you in a few days
lphuberdeau_: merci, yeah, lookin' forward. how is the conference ?
ah, it starts tomorrow :)
I'm still in Montreal in fact
leaving in a few hours
yo marclaporte, is Jyhem already there ,
?
lphuberdeau_: it's a 1.9.7 install, you said I should select 1.8to1.9 upgrade first though correct?
(looks that way)
hi all, quick question, i setup sender email and checked validate users by email in admin->login. When i create a new user, it says last login-never and "user needs to validate email". Except i never receive an email and i know php mail works on this machine. All i want is to create a new user manually and then have an email sent out for validation. Will this work? I'm told it has in the past
im using 2.2
luciash / lphuberdeau_: appears to have worked, I will confirm for sure later, but thanks for the help
@robferguson: if u create the user manually, tiki will not send auto-notification
email is sent only when they register themselves, to validate their email address
hmm, so i suppose then i have to manually create a script if i want this to happen
its confusing because under the user status it says needs to validate...maybe this should only display if they signed themselves up
Big thanks to everyone who helped Khalsa before, our wiki now works :)
SVN:  Commit by pkdille :: r 15617 /trunk/templates/ (3 files): [MOD] tiki sheets: deploy smarty buttons  
maybe use the "usrs can register" and the "...but need admin validation" options..
will allow users to register on their own, but account will be queued for admin validation.
user will receive an email after the admin valdiates the account
well its tricky because im making an app that lets the admin assign users to groups to let them help with a project, and this could be anyone, so they need to know to come to the site
therefore i figured i could use the generic validation scheme but apparently is only exists for admin validation and self sign up
Khalsa, DavidSev: welcome
robferguson: i think the e-mail validation means users confirm the e-mail is valid, not admin validation, right ?
well theres two options in tiki that im aware of now, one is that the admin validates the users after they register, or the users validate themselves by clicking a link in an email that tiki sends them
either way, either option makes sure the user is who they say they are...more or less
the latter being better though, because the hash in the email can only be used once
you caqn also have an admin valid + an email valid - both validation
sylvieg: nelson said that you filed a wish to have what i was asking for? to have the user made by the admin, but they still have to validate through email...is that righT?
it does not exist like this - not difficult to develop - but not in the code so far I know
luciash: : come ahve lunch with us!
marclaporte: thx, what time where ?
marclaporte: should i register here ? http://www.webcom-montreal.com/_webcamp.php
luciash: : yes, register
lunch now!
where are you?
we'll have afternoon in English
oui, oui ;)
ROFL
hehe
i'm at christine's
i think i'll stay and prepare, thanks for invitation anyway
ok
i can take something from the fridge or run out for some street food ;)
hehe
ok, we'll go eat
enjoy your meal, i could join you in the evening if you like to go somewhere though
amette: yo bro, wassup btw ? ;)
luciash: ah, well, too much ;)
okay, drop me a mail ;)
yeah, just thought about it ;)
as you can see i'm enjoying a montréal flat ;)
sounds good :)
it's awesome being here actually even though i met only christine and jyhem so far :)
heh :)
well, have lots of fun and keep us updated :)
( I won't be reading IRC much, I fear )
sure, i'll probably post to fb and other proprietary crap ;)
LOL :P
sylvieg: did you ever solve the weaknesses of get_strings to any high level of satisfaction? http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=UnusedWords
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2132 - Articles: title should be clickable and take us to full article - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2132
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2133 - When creating a page, how to inherit permissions from source page? - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2133
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2134 - OpenMicroBlogging specification - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2134
yes it is a comment //get_strings tra('fly')
or {*getstrigs {tr}fly{/tr} *}
.. without typo
hello 
th tiki-chat.php was removed in version 2 ? 
sylvieg:ahve you ever tried to reduce get_strings to have not so many strings?
for example, only for wiki + forum?
Mail-In question: I want mail-in Articles to require approval.  I think that's controlled by TW User/Group, but don't see what User is author of a mail-in.
correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive it was tikiwiki that had a module at one point to export pages/sections/articles/etc. to LaTex?
also, I can't seem to find the pdf creation feature :-(
Khalsa: Structures.
Khalsa: I think it's structure-to-PDF.  I haven't tested it, but you define several Wiki pages within a Structure, then can PDF it.
is there a quick way to add an entire tree to a structure?
Khalsa: I'd cut the list of Wiki pages, paste that in a text editor, then make the list of page names look like a structure.
uh huh
Khalsa: Because I think the structure import tool involves pasting text which is in a certain format to represent the tree.
You could look at the documentation or create a small test structure, then export it and see what the format is.
ah I see, where is says "tree" it wants you to paste a properly formated tree of the pagenames
Yup.  I've used that to create a tree of nonexistent pages.  If you have existing pages I think the list of pages may be the place to start.
ok if I use the gui to create a sample tree then click 'view tree' would that be the same proper format to import as well (I hope so, looks like simple space delimated list)
Khalsa: Yes, I think view tree is the same as the import format.
cool
Anyone know how to make "rssfeeds" module show more than one RSS feed?
Uh... yeah, I also have a need for Article Type feeds.
Not that it matters, when users can only see a single RSS feed.
what's the rss module called?
wait, there is no rss module
it's a plugin
I think there is an rssfeed module.  Or is this module from a plugin?
It's a user-defined module that uses the RSS plugin.
Or can a module be from a plugin rather than from a mod?
If you want more than one RSS feed to show, then just use the plugin twice
This is why I don't like that we call some things modules and some things mods
confusing
You're talking about the boxes right?
No, rsslist is not {RSS}
I don't see a mod-rsslist
There is no rsslist.  I meant "rssfeed".
I don't see a mod-rssfeed either
unless its in trunk and not 2.x
I'm pretty sure this site is running 2.1.
I did a "locate rssfeed" and came up empty.  The files are not called "rssfeed".
Are you looking to create a feed for users or import a feed from soemwhere?
I'm trying to show the list of RSS feeds.  The "Administration:RSS feeds" options changes what shows in "rssfeed" module.
Ok
This will show multiple feeds.  Just one per feature.
You can have an Article feed, a Forum feed, a Wiki feed, a Calendar feed, etc.
Yeah, I have a page full of {RSS} in one site.
But this site I enabled several kinds of RSS feeds but can't get more than one visible in "rssfeed" module.
The "rsslist" module will display all feeds you have created that you have access to.
Tell me another funny story.
?
Only one RSS feed is visible in my module.
I didn't spot the source code for rssfeed.  That word is used for many other things.  Adding more filters...
the only thing I can find is the rsslist module in the templates directory.  Since there's nothing for it to process, it's just a module.  tikiroot/templates/modules/mod-rsslist.tpl
There is no rssfeed
There is a plugin that goes {RSS(id=>feedId1:feedId2:feedId3:etc, max=>#, etcetcetc)}{RSS}
I'm seeing "rssfeed" in a pulldown menu in "Admin Modules".  I don't see any definition of it.
Well, whereever "rssfeed" comes from, the box is of CSS type "rsslist", so it must be coming from lib/tikilib.php.
Uh.. now the pulldown option is "rsslist".  I'm sure I read "rssfeed" earlier.
Well, I see darkroom.css is to blame.  CSS is defining a max height for type rsslist box.
You can specify the row size in the module screen.  Or you should be able to, so as to avoid that.
I already have "Rows 10" for the module; I think that's the number of lines or entries.
My code minion says he tinkered with the CSS to open it up.  Now I have to figure out how to flush Varnish.
There it is!  Yeah, the darkroom.css was restricting the height of the module.
Now to figure out what Mail-In is trying to do.  It hasn't accepted my submission, and I don't see anything in the Tiki log.
Does a cron job need to be created to make Mail-in poll for submissions?