#tikiwiki 2008-11-19,Wed

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sylvieg	I like the pseudo freelikegnu . I went to a little conference this evening .... one point was opensource is good because free - but even better because people can contribute back	[00:21]
lq_064	Is there a way to change a large amount of peoples permissions easily at once? I created a new group, and have to add about 100 people to it. Is there an easy implementation to do this or should I do it one by one?	[00:31]
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sylvieg	you have a checkbox - and assign to group in admin_users	[00:43]
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lq_064	oh nice, missed that option at the bottom of the page. Thanks	[00:55]
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marclaporte	in 2.2, slideshow is not optional I believe it was not optional before (1.9.x) either	[01:10]
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marclaporte	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2165 -> SlideShow in File Gallery should be optional.	[01:53]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 15682 /branches/2.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] typo	[03:30]
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marclaporte	marclaporte is having a kozel beer, from cz :-) luciash : ^^^	[03:47]
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axold	hi guys! I want to gain some svn commit access because I solved a bug in a mod, so could any of you help me? ups	[08:16]
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luciash	polom :)	[08:49]
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luciash	marclaporte: kewl :)	[08:49]
	marclaporte: i like the Gambrinus the most unfortunatelly the taste from bottle can be always different than from a can or a draught beer of the same brand	[08:54]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 15683 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: [FIX] fix button function and auto_query_args : don't nullify auto_query_args	[09:41]
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sylvieg	tw.org is dead for me :-(	[13:02]
amette	works for me	[13:11]
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axold	hi to all any of you could give me access to committing in the svn server?	[13:57]
sylvieg	What do you want to do with tikiwiki	[13:58]
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axold	I fix a bug in aulawiki (mmm a mod)	[14:00]
sylvieg	ah you are a aulawiki guy?	[14:00]
axold	yes	[14:00]
sylvieg	ok what is your sourceforge name?	[14:00]
axold	I am one of the new guys axold	[14:00]
sylvieg	ok done - welcome axold	[14:02]
axold	ok thank you :D	[14:02]
sylvieg	you know and accept the 3 rules - I suppose?	[14:03]
axold	of course	[14:03]
sylvieg	good	[14:03]
axold	don't worry :D i'm going to eat something, thx again ;) bye!	[14:03]
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luciash	sylvieg goes to da action directly ;-) no preludes or ceremonies :-p	[14:11]
sylvieg	if you volunteer - welcome - it is why usually I do not want to do it	[14:21]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15686 /trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: rollback 15680 SVN: Commit by axold :: r 15685 /mods/trunk/Packages/features-aulawiki.info.txt: [FIX] Fixed a bug in the installation process of Aulawiki in Tiki 2.X branch	[15:07]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15687 /trunk/templates/tiki-site_header_login.tpl: [ENH] Add remember me checkbox if optional SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15688 /trunk/modules/ (86 files): [MOD]modules: take away the ?> at the end because if there is an empty line after ?>, ajax will not work	[15:17]
	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15689 /trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX]darkroom: update findtable + some space around navbar	[15:29]
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luciash	sylvieg: np, i was just joking about that :) sylvieg: that is weird about the php ?> and empty line after... i thought ajax is just a bunch of JS code calling php/whatever on server side via http requests	[15:52]
sylvieg	it is because the answer is sopce<xml.... that is not xml space	[15:55]
luciash	ah, <?xml requires no space before	[15:56]
sylvieg	yes something like that - I do not have the error mesage in front of me	[15:56]
luciash	can't it be stripped any other way ? i don't feel comfortable with any open "tags" even when it is php (not required) ;) sylvieg: i see, i have to look around and figure out myself otherwise i believe you'd already do it the other way ;)	[15:57]
sylvieg	sept_7 proposes to do everywhere - not only modules	[16:00]
luciash	sylvieg: thanks for finding the problem or sept_7, whoever g	[16:00]
SEWilco2	For testing I want to create a user "anon" in Anonymous group, to see how a site in maintenance mode looks to unregistered users...	[16:01]
sylvieg	my tests were not very good - I though it was the browser ... in fact my guilty module was not displayed in each case..	[16:01]
SEWilco2	... Can I create a user which can not change its own password? Remove a permission from Anonymous group? I don't know what permission blocks password change.	[16:01]
sylvieg	SEWilco: I do not know how to do that...	[16:02]
luciash	SEWilco2: you can test your site unregistered user only as anonymous, why not to do that like that ?	[16:02]
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luciash	SEWilco2: you can try to remove the user from Registered group though	[16:04]
SEWilco2	luciash: There are several people who need to see normal appearance, I was hoping to only create one account for them.	[16:04]
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luciash	so basically the user will have only Anonymous group perms	[16:04]
SEWilco2	Well, I'll look through the permissions list again. luciash: Yes, I'll create a user in group Anonymous.	[16:05]
sylvieg	I do not think it will work luciash - I think I remember these 2 groups are added automatically.. but I hope I am wrong...	[16:06]
luciash	I'm not sure the system will allow you to do that; maybe you'll have to do that via sql directly i mean remove Registered group	[16:06]
	SEWilco2: if you only need to disallow change password go to Admin > Login and uncheck "Reg users can change password"	[16:13]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15690 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Siteheader: Added siteloginbar.logged-in class for more control and re-ordered elements to be more logical and shorter. Changed a couple of divs to spans. Added CSS defs to improve layout (in tikineat.css only so far)	[16:13]
luciash	SEWilco2: ?	[16:20]
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SEWilco2	luciash: I got diverted by an email configuration issue. I'll have to tinker with Anon later. ... and now my .htaccess failed. Huh. Oh, wonderful. I renamed my HomePage to the domain name and the period in ".org" doesn't fit the .htaccess rule. OK, rule editing time. Ick. The .htaccess rule for Wiki page names specifically excludes periods. Any idea why periods are disliked?	[16:26]
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SEWilco2	Well, I don't know why .htaccess doesn't like a dot in the name of a Wiki page. I worked around it for my homepage by adding a rule for that specific page. dev.tw.o is timing out	[17:25]
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jonnyb	hi all - seem to have a bug in trunk - anonymous users cannot tiki_p_view_categorized - is that just me?	[17:58]
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marclaporte	jonnyb: : nice to see you committing will see you in a few days?	[17:58]
jonnyb	thanks - it's hard to get the time to tiki properly yes lets - i haven't checked that page i made recently... no one else seems to have spotted it (http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMiniNov08)	[17:58]
sylvieg	jonnyb: I did a page assign to a categ (p_view_categorized for anonynmous). Anomymous can see the apge	[18:03]
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jonnyb	anyway - about this perms thing... (hi Sylvie) - it seems to be because $userslib->get_permissions() won't let you be permitted to do anything if $group is empty (as it is when called from $categlib->get_object_categories_perms() - does that sound right?) shouldn't anonymous be able to view categorized pages if tiki_p_view_categorized is set for them? or have i misunderstood?	[18:05]
sylvieg	yes should be ok	[18:09]
jonnyb	cool - i'll commit (categlib.php) works for me here now	[18:10]
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cpet	Any recommendations on importing javascript the JS mod doesnt seem to be working	[18:25]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15691 /trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Added group check to get_object_categories_perms() (Anonymous couldn't view categorized objects)	[18:35]
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SEWilco2	jonnyb: I think Anonymous also needs permission to view wiki pages. The categorized permission is in addition to whatever they're allowed to access.	[19:03]
jonnyb	yes - tiki_p_view is on for anon by default (for me)	[19:04]
SEWilco2	Hmm. I can't access a topic_image. I wonder if it's because the site is in maintenance mode and Varnish might be trying to cache the "page".	[19:05]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by aproulx :: r 15692 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ADD] add categories listing for image in tiki-browse_gallery.php	[19:05]
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snarlydwarf	i hate people who don't understand the beauty of stylesheets	[19:12]
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snarlydwarf	"i want to hardcode all my fonts"	[19:12]
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luciash	SEWilco2: did you put the dot in .htaccess rule as . ?	[19:29]
SEWilco2	luciash: Yes. Working OK for the Example.org wiki page.	[19:31]
luciash	snarlydwarf: i don't like hardcoding, where is that ?	[19:31]
snarlydwarf	a dumb cow-orker	[19:31]
luciash	snarlydwarf: aye :)	[19:31]
snarlydwarf	"okay, you can change every page when you decide that it looks dumb"	[19:31]
SEWilco2	The worker will get to work with his hard fonts. Hard fonts make for hard work.	[19:31]
snarlydwarf	indeed :/ she doesnt get i can change every font on those pages with 1 change in the css monospaced fonts ("we want the typewriter look") hardcoded with full justification, so it looks really stupid.	[19:32]
Caarrie	some people are just hard headed	[19:33]
snarlydwarf	css can be annoying sometimes, but geesh, hardcoding is so much more painful snarlydwarf blames js almost-wysiwyg editors	[19:33]
SEWilco2	There are situations which invoke specific TW styles. Can those typewriter pages get such a classification? I don't remember the name of the feature. So the pages will not have the hardcoding but will (at the moment) have a typewriter font in the CSS, but can be changed when necessary.	[19:36]
snarlydwarf	she doesnt want to do that. tis my job to do the css, she does content but wants to do style i guess	[19:38]
Caarrie	hehe	[19:40]
snarlydwarf	I am waiting for her to ask for more spacing between paras when her junk isnt even p's... it's <span class="Msocrappola"> stuff she pasted	[19:40]
SEWilco2	Everyone's got an artist inside them, screaming and throwing a tantrum while splattering paint on a canvas and trying to get out by dancing in chocolate.	[19:41]
snarlydwarf	<span class="ps are suddenly bad?><br /></span> bad html makes me cry it will be amusing when she wants paras indented and has to cram in   everywhere	[19:41]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 tries to get out by tunneling with a spoon through the chocolate. NOM NOM NOM	[19:43]
Caarrie	:O chocolate?????	[19:43]
marclaporte	looks like dev.tw.o crashed my server devtiki_tiki.tiki_sessions warning : Number of rows changed from 29514 to 163 status : OK	[19:43]
SEWilco2	Wait a week before mentioning paragraph indentation and spacing to her. if she wants either let her experience re-editing for a while. Then mention web browsers with different screen widths.	[19:45]
marclaporte	when repairing	[19:45]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 hopes dev.two.o is on marc's server, otherwise worries about own server.	[19:46]
snarlydwarf	isnt that just cleaning out open sessions, marc?	[19:46]
Caarrie	[Wed 2:44:00 pm] <marclaporte> looks like dev.tw.o crashed my server	[19:46]
marclaporte	yes, dev.tw.o is on my server	[19:47]
luciash	snarlydwarf: <span class="Msocrappola"> doesn't sound like style hardcoding to me	[19:47]
snarlydwarf	no, thats just cruft, she has other spans and no p's Mso stuff is cause she is pasting from Word.	[19:47]
luciash	i see	[19:48]
Caarrie	hehe	[19:48]
luciash	as the last resort workaround you can be saved by putting !important in your CSS	[19:49]
snarlydwarf	nah, told her she gets to clean it up	[19:49]
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snarlydwarf	she was adamant about not wanting css to do it.	[19:49]
SEWilco2_	Everyone's an engineer who knows a better way to build a bridge.	[19:51]
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marclaporte	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/ is banged up	[19:58]
conner_bw	What's banged up mean?	[20:02]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by aproulx :: r 15693 /trunk/styles/tikineat.css: [MOD] adding class in tikineat for category list in image gallery	[20:06]
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SEWilco2_	Doesn't "banged up" in England mean it resembles a sausage?	[20:09]
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SEWilco2	Huh. My FF browser isn't requesting a topic_image.php. Web server isn't seeing a request. No wonder it's not displaying the image.	[20:11]
conner_bw	i'm looking at the page and it looks fine in safari	[20:11]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15695 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Add support for theme options to theme control (categories only so far) SVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 15694 /trunk/ (2 files): [FIX] Set no style_option to empty properly when no options	[20:26]
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luciash	marclaporte: dev.tw.o looks ok for me in FF3	[20:30]
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GillesMM	hi on 2.2 when I register a new user with user tracker after fill of other users I got wrong registration code	[20:41]
sylvieg	I think I fixed in 2...	[20:43]
GillesMM	in 2 ? ;) hi sylvie	[20:43]
sylvieg	temporary solution - take away antibot for registration and only keep admin->wiki->antobot	[20:44]
GillesMM	ok	[20:44]
sylvieg	marclaporte: for these sessions problems 1) it is a mysql problem 2) somebody finds out that these sessions were created by a bot 3) even with this - I have no idea what to do....	[20:46]
GillesMM	thanks	[20:46]
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luciash	sylvieg is right, sadly :-/ imho	[20:59]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by aproulx :: r 15697 /trunk/styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css: adding class in 2.0to3.0.css for category list in image gallery SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15696 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): rename	[21:14]
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GillesMM	is there a modification eye in tracker like in forum or in wiki page ?	[21:24]
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SEWilco2	GillesMM: Yes, trackers can be watched.	[23:14]
GillesMM	ok thanks	[23:14]
SEWilco2	But the MyTiki report on your tracker watching is awful. Doesn't know what field is the name of the thing.	[23:15]
	sylvieg: Aww, you went and broke marc's session right out of IRC. :-)	[23:21]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by rlpowell :: r 15698 /trunk/tiki-modules.php: Order matters.	[23:46]
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