#tikiwiki 2008-11-25,Tue

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Who	What	When
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, I may be wrong, but I think is_html was already passed to the function as part of $options	[00:03]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: Any idea why TW 2.2 can't send notifications but trunk can? I see you added $from to trunk notifications. http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=14400 (Only hint I'm finding in Apache log is: sendmail: Unable to submit message )	[00:07]
sylvieg	perhaps lph - I will check better - ths thx SEWilco: for article - or for all notifications?	[00:12]
SEWilco2	I've been testing with article because user creation notifications weren't being sent.	[00:14]
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sylvieg	btw lph : do you agree with my 'fix' about the parsing ... I was not sure what to do...	[00:17]
SEWilco2	Oh, goodie. Now I'm not getting the sendmail error. Let's see if the message shows up.	[00:17]
lmnt9	I have a fresh install of tikiwiki and the smarty tags dont work, how do I enable the feature? for instance putting {code()}test{code} in the wiki just prints literally	[00:17]
sylvieg	sylvieg dinner time	[00:26]
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lphuberdeau	sylvieg, didn't really look the problem in details... need more days in the week	[00:55]
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btiffin	Is there a way for a plugin (say for babelfish) to get the current page. ie. the page the plugin is in without hardcoding said url. I have a developer that writes in japanese, and I'd like to add a plugin the current page to babelfish. plugin the = plugin to pass the	[03:06]
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relena	hello how they add freetags in FAQ? file gallerie? directory ?	[10:18]
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Iramon	I had a strange bug... I added a group "forum admins" and gave it just the right to administrate forums, the rest of the forum rights were (according to page) set automaticly, but noone of this group was able to see the forums, but they were able to create new forums for example. then I set back the rights and added all forum rights and now it works did anyone encouter that bug too before?	[10:44]
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GillesMM	Hi in don't find in 2.2 where I can activate mionichat-feature .. is it a bug or a problem in upgrade ?	[12:13]
sylvieg	the minichat before 2.0 was bugged - so was moved to mods . the new minichat in 3.x is working well so pick up thold bugged one in mods - or pick up the new one in trunk	[12:21]
GillesMM	ok thanks	[12:24]
sylvieg	relena: one of the freetag module allows to tag any object	[12:34]
relena	yes I have find but me cannot put it on the directory	[12:39]
Iramon	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/You%20Cannot%20Win <--- joke???	[12:42]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15750 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] the params are already in options - thx lph	[13:14]
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GillesMM	if there a way to see the pages not linked at a structure ?	[13:31]
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relena	to find your pages you use links hypertext	[13:42]
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ricks99	any ideas on how to include attachments in search results? see http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=31084	[13:52]
relena	I have the same problem as you	[13:57]
ricks99	:(	[13:58]
relena	I not find solution :(	[13:58]
ricks99	to clarify... i dont want to search the contents of the attachment, i just wnat (via search) an easy way to find the page that has attachment "foo.doc" ... still wishing for the tiki dashboard...	[13:58]
relena	I also have problem on certain file in file gallerie	[14:02]
ricks99	hm... filegallery search should work. (does for me)	[14:02]
relena	yes but there is some file who are not found	[14:04]
ricks99	how often do u update the search index?	[14:05]
relena	yes, I would reattempt	[14:06]
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sylvieg	How can I set a link in wiki [tiki-calendar.php?calIds[]=3\|see the calendar] seems there is a conflict with []	[15:04]
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relena	silvieg you speak french?	[15:19]
sylvieg	yeh [~np~tiki-calendar.php?calIds[]=3~/np~\|see the calendar] is working	[15:21]
relena	oki je n'etait pas sur que c'etait toi j ai remarquer un bug et je ne sais pas a qui le signaler	[15:22]
sylvieg	dev.tikiwiki.org	[15:24]
relena	oki j espere qu'ils comprendront quelque choses avec mon anglais foireux merci	[15:24]
sylvieg	a lot of developpers are French or Canadian - so you can put your bug report in French too.. we are not suppose to speak franch here /join #tikiwiki-fr	[15:29]
relena	^^	[15:32]
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GillesMM	is there a way to define variable and to put theses variables in wiki pages ?	[15:56]
sylvieg	GillesMM: yes - I think it is dynamic content	[15:58]
relena	thx bye	[16:05]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15751 /trunk/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [FIX]image gal: when looking for visible gals, do not check public - public is only for download	[16:19]
GillesMM	how can I enter { code in wiki page without analysis of { ie I want to show { ?	[16:21]
ricks99	@GillesMM: use the 'no processing' tag. see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+syntax#Plain_Text	[16:23]
GillesMM	no it doesn't work ~np~ ~/np~	[16:24]
ricks99	what is ur tiki version? ~np~{foo}~/np~ works in my 2.2	[16:26]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15752 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: oops	[16:30]
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GillesMM	{content id=1} works but not {content label=x} idea ?	[16:42]
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marclaporte	this is a recent addition maybe buggy or you have older tiki installed	[17:02]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15753 /trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX]category: rollback 15691 because now object with a category with a special perm can be seen without perm checking	[17:13]
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SEWilco2	"Firefox can't find the server at doc.tikiwiki.org." I do see DNS entries... CNAME+A	[17:48]
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SEWilco2_	My DNS config was messed up. doc.tikiwiki.org is visible now to me.	[17:57]
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nikhilodeon	hi - i am having issues with users pasting directly from a word document into fck editor - a lot of the xml formatting behind the word doc gets inserted, and it looks very jumbled...can anyone point me in the right direction? there is obviously a "Paste from Word" option, but most users are likely to just clip something from a word doc and insert it, as this is the path of least resistance	[17:59]
ricks99	word has a copy..special command which will copy the text-only -- no formatting	[18:02]
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nikhilodeon	ricks99 - right, and there is the copy as plain text, which works great - but it might be too many steps to learn for most users	[18:20]
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amette	Has anyone ever done any kind of profiling of trackers-code?	[18:37]
sylvieg	yes I did a lot of the old.tw.org	[18:38]
amette	dev.tw.o is behaving _baaadly_ and I'm just trying to narrow it down	[18:38]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15754 /trunk/templates/comment-footer.tpl: [FIX]icon: replace with an icon in an autorized smarty directory (as not sure about the orign of the other one, stick with the famfam icons	[18:38]
sylvieg	are php5 - because in phph4 forget it are you in phph5?	[18:38]
amette	do you know of anything that would not play well with eaccelerator or something? yup, it's php5 I was already thinking of trying php4 as I read something about performance-issues with php5 (symptoms are the same)...	[18:39]
sylvieg	no - I have dev.tw on my local for perf checking... in php5 it was behaving correctly - (but I did not have so much queries)	[18:39]
amette	... but ok - good! I can forget about that try. apache runs up to 100% CPU usage every now and then	[18:39]
sylvieg	forget php4 for tracker the request in list_items in not optimized for phph4	[18:40]
amette	it should all be cached in eaccelerator - no need for that high cpu-usage ok	[18:40]
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amette	this morning dev.tw.o just stalled to a halt - apache didn't really respond any more I now disabled eaccelerator to see, if symptoms change - and maxclients is raised (as it halted this morning after hitting it)...	[18:41]
sylvieg	in dev.tw.org 2.2 or trunk?	[18:41]
amette	... the site becomes slower and slower all the time.. it's 2.2	[18:41]
sylvieg	did you log the slow queries?	[18:42]
amette	... restart of apache fixes that. no, I didn't - mysql eats 0.1%CPU all the time it's apache that eats everything up - but I'll add slow query log	[18:42]
sylvieg	hmmm - so it is apache not mysql..	[18:42]
amette	yeah, presumably... but you'll never know	[18:43]
sylvieg	do you have phpmyadmin on the database	[18:43]
amette	no, only console	[18:43]
sylvieg	you will see in the stat page is soemthing is wrong	[18:43]
amette	ah, ok... gonna put that on my list	[18:44]
sylvieg	sylvieg does not know how to check the stats on commend line	[18:44]
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amette	mom - phone	[18:45]
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lmnt9	On a default install of tikiwiki the smarty codes do not seem to work - how do I activate them? For instance - in the wiki, if I do {code()}test{code} - it has no markup, just displays literally	[18:51]
sylvieg	the plgin is {CODE()}{CODE} not code plugin	[18:52]
lmnt9	omg now i will feel stupid if its just case	[18:53]
amette	re	[18:55]
lmnt9	gah - sorry to waste your time thank you	[18:55]
amette	so I will postpone doc.tw.o move now to friday and hope to see that there is nothing basically wrong next steps I planned are: lowering maxclients and stuff again then anything that you might come up with and then trying to use prefork instead of worker apache but I wonder, if there is something in trackers code that makes PHP/eaccelerator run amok	[18:56]
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sylvieg	btw amette - in dev.tw.org I added indexes	[18:58]
amette	I have a recent dump running right now from two days ago, so they should be in, right?	[18:59]
sylvieg	LTER TABLE `tiki_tracker_items` ADD index trackerId (trackerId); ALTER TABLE `tiki_tracker_fields` ADD index trackerId (trackerId); ALTER TABLE `tiki_tracker_item_attachments` ADD index itemId (itemId); ah - ok - no problem then	[18:59]
amette	ok, great	[18:59]
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amette	great, now I killed mysql... :-/	[19:08]
marclaporte	amette: : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) I thought I did that!	[19:10]
amette	hehe, nope, it was me syntax-error in my.cnf fixed sylvieg: slow-query-log is enabled now - I'll let you know, what I find currently it is set to 1sec - should I rather put a higher value right from the start?	[19:10]
sylvieg	1 sec is big..	[19:11]
amette	marclaporte: dev.tw.o is baaad - doc.tw.o move is postponed to friday to gather more data - the current server should still hold up, right!? ok, I thought that you can only set slow-query-log in 1sec intervals? and I've seen already that some queries might take over 1 sec even without being too badly programmed... and tracker are tricky.. so dunno..	[19:12]
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amette	what? CIA?!?	[19:13]
sylvieg	I think a good limit is 0.05 ... (it is the adodb default)	[19:13]
amette	adodb does log slow queries, too? or what do you mean?	[19:13]
sylvieg	yes in 2.x in admin->general you can log slow queries via adodb - puut the list in only in 3 - need to see the table by yourself in 2	[19:14]
amette	oh, ok... I now activated the MySQL internal slow-query log but well, ok, I think that with 1sec we will have a good first indicator never change too much at once - always work ceteris paribus ;)	[19:15]
marclaporte	hehe	[19:17]
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SEWilco2_	"ceteris paribus" is Latin for "memorize your bus schedule". :-)	[19:22]
amette	LOL :P	[19:22]
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SEWilco2_	I seem to have fixed a PHP email configuration quirk, so edit notifications are working on my server. But a new user still isn't getting email. Any known 2.2 problems with new user email?	[19:25]
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SEWilco2_	I thought TW sent an email when a new user with an email address is defined. I don't see a configuration option to affect that. Is email sent?	[19:34]
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ricks99	@SEWilco2_: do u mean when a new user registers?	[19:59]
SEWilco2_	ricks99: Yes, when a new user registers. I'm wading through the code now.	[19:59]
ricks99	y need to set the email watch tik-admin_notifications select the 'a user registers' event see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page_ref_id=141	[19:59]
marclaporte	amette: : the server will hold up until Friday unless it crashes	[20:01]
SEWilco2_	ricks99: I thought the new user got an email. "Notifications" is for specific users to be notified.	[20:02]
ricks99	new users (newly regiseterd) will get an email if u have the "..validate users by email" option	[20:03]
SEWilco2_	Yup, have validate by email on.	[20:03]
ricks99	after registering, they'll get an email with a link to complete/verify/validate the registration process user do u have "... but need admin validation?"	[20:03]
SEWilco2_	no, not need admin validation. User's can't register, so an admin is creating the user.	[20:08]
ricks99	is it just 1 particular user? or can no one register?	[20:09]
amette	marclaporte: we could move earlier, too - I just want to try to make as sure as I can that it is not a problem with the server itself, but that dev.tw.o is the problem	[20:10]
sylvieg	I do not think users receives email if an admin registers them - whatever settings are on	[20:11]
ricks99	* rick thinks he completely misunderstands the issue	[20:12]
marclaporte	amette: : having doc.tw.o there would be a good test, no? :-) :-) doc doesn't use trackers much	[20:13]
amette	marclaporte: yes, it would actually! but if it is the server, then we have two moves in a short time... ... though... now that I think again... the second one could be made transparent as we can access the apache-config... hmmm..... :)	[20:13]
SEWilco2_	The user is created by admin, but the user does not get an email. sylvieg: That seems to be what I'm seeing, although I thought I had seen notifications. sylvieg: Obviously I haven't been creating enough users to be certain of the behavior.	[20:14]
sylvieg	I never saw email when admin registers a user by himself ....	[20:16]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15755 /trunk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]calendar: add calendar color in view list too + default colors are none to avoid bad style on dark styles	[20:16]
ricks99	u can 'fool' tiki by using the 'revalidate after xx unsuccessful login attempts have the admin create the account, then attempt xx unsuccessful logsin user will receive automated email	[20:17]
SEWilco2_	ricks99: Gee, thanks xx.	[20:17]
ricks99	or use the 'i forgotmy password option" thats what i use all the time	[20:17]
sylvieg	in trunk in admin->users you can email to a list of users	[20:18]
SEWilco2_	sylvieg: OK, thanks, that explains why I'm not seeing notifications on this few-editors system. :-(	[20:18]
ricks99	@sylvieg: does that include a validation link? or is it just mass email (aka newsletter)?	[20:19]
SEWilco2_	I tried adding debug messages, but debug console ain't working so good on tiki-adminusers.php.	[20:19]
sylvieg	for the moment it is just an email .... I must finish this part	[20:19]
ricks99	would be nice to have a 'revalidate' option on adminusers.php	[20:20]
sylvieg	it is so painful to test all the n cases of regsitration/login ... I need a strong motivation to touch this part - or perhaps to play with the test suite for that	[20:21]
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SEWilco2_	Grr. "Generate a password" doesn't force numbers when numbers are required.	[20:43]
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ricks99	known bug. it also doesn't respect force number & letter option or pw length	[20:43]
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GillesMM	on the localisation with googlemap it seem there is mix between longitude and latitude .... is it just for me ?	[20:57]
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marclaporte	GillesMM mixed up? nah ;-)	[21:07]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 15756 /trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Changed tracker type field to 15 char length to accommodate more descriptive types and to facilitate moving to more descriptive standard.	[21:12]
	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 15757 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): notice	[21:22]
	SVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 15758 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [DOC] Updated header of trackerlib to a phpdoc-friendly header. Also enabled Id and Rev SVN tags. As I work on files, I'll be continuing to add documentation, however in fairness to the SVN reviewers, documentation unrelated to actual coding changes will occur in their own commits, separating the two actions.	[21:34]
SEWilco2_	Hmm. All my admin-created users say "Need to validate email" but emails to do validation aren't sent.	[21:40]
amette	GillesMM: that might be - I was wondering about that once, too... might even be that I (mis)fixed it once in MyTiki preferences... I can't tell you for sure, but I remember that this issue sounds familiar to me.	[21:41]
marclaporte	GillesMM: : I am in Paris	[21:48]
GillesMM	allo	[21:49]
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SEWilco2_	Hmm. User admin interface doesn't let me define an Anonymous user. The group Registered can't be removed. Where's my hatchet?	[21:53]
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SEWilco2_	SEWilco2_ took an axe and gave anon's group a whack.	[22:00]
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SEWilco2_	SEWilco2_ and when he found it did not work, in the Anonymous group he did slap.	[22:05]
	SEWilco2_ still login anon could not, so to the fishes was its lot.	[22:11]
	Looks like I can't create an Anonymous user which so site can be examined while in Maintenance mode. Only Admins can log in then.	[22:21]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 15759 /trunk/lib/pear/Net/Ping.php: [NEW] Adding Ping.php pear lib unchanged from version that's on the Pear website. This is in anticipation of the ping macro that's forthcoming.	[22:28]
marclaporte	Please review: http://coe.notrewiki.net/tiki-index.php?page=WikiUI http://coe.notrewiki.net/tiki-index.php?page=Site+Identity http://coe.notrewiki.net/tiki-index.php?page=DogFood	[22:29]
GillesMM	allo marclaporte: allo	[22:32]
marclaporte	allo	[22:36]
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SEWilco2_	Ping. That's a nice duck. marclaporte: WikiUI page has "If so, here?" which probably should be "If so, where?"	[22:42]
marclaporte	SEWilco: : tks you in the mood to register and edit or should I do?	[22:47]
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SEWilco2_	marclaporte: No time to edit that now.	[22:53]
marclaporte	SEWilco: : fixed	[22:55]
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SEWilco2_	How does one contribute a new plugin? I'm not finding instructions on dev.tw.o. I have the code. svn it into trunk?	[23:27]
	When in doubt, put it in the trunk.	[23:33]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sewilco :: r 15760 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [NEW] SHARETHIS plugin for Share This social bookmarking popup window, by Andrew Hafferman.	[23:34]
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sylvieg	SEWilco: in trunk you must also update feature.csv	[23:56]

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