[00:01] <sylvieg> of course
[00:01] <xTremePower> because french hosters are expensive
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[00:02] <sylvieg> has somebody a clear idea what is the difference between drupal CCK . and tracker?
[00:03] <xTremePower> for me i'ts chinese :)
[00:04] <sylvieg> drupal has the pathauto :-!
[00:04] <sylvieg> a dynamic sefurl ...
[00:04] <SEWilco2> sylvieg: It doesn't matter whether I give show_image.php the scalesize=360 or not, I keep getting the original image.
[00:05] <sylvieg> I think you can not do it - becaue you need to be in a defined scale... so far I remember
[00:06] <SEWilco2> I see the thumb parameter, and that produces the size of my defined thumb (200).
[00:06] <SEWilco2> Oh, GD lib needs to be configured with permitted scales?
[00:07] <sylvieg> I think scale are not dynamically computed .. I THINK some code is missing
[00:09] <sylvieg> Oh I am depressed http://learn.awakenedvoice.com/2007/07/30/drupal-cck-and-views-tutorial/ we have to work...
[00:11] <SEWilco2> sylvieg: Ah, I see thumb testing code in rebuild_image().  Tsk.
[00:12] <sylvieg> it should not be to hard to have a dynamic scaling....
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[00:21] <lphuberdeau> sylvieg, unless they completed their port to drupal 6, they also have to work ;)
[00:23] <sylvieg> lph give me more - I need some stimulus..
[00:24] <lphuberdeau> hum, started watching the video, downloading all field types sounds like a pain to me
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[00:25] <sylvieg> ok - but not sure we are doing better
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[00:26] <lphuberdeau> drupal is a lot more people, can't beat them everywhere
[00:26] <sylvieg> lph did you ever look into drupal code - is it clean?
[00:27] <sylvieg> i nver look at drupal - I must admint
[00:28] <ikeco> Does anyone know where the pref "$show_author", in the "tiki-read article" template is stored, or can be set? 
[00:28] <ikeco> Good evening, btw...
[00:29] <sylvieg> are you 1.9 or 2.x?
[00:29] <ikeco> 2.2
[00:29] <SEWilco2> ikeco: Isn't show_author in Articles>admin types?
[00:29] <ikeco> lemme look--brb
[00:30] <sylvieg> seesm   to be that 1) you are still on the prefs all way that in a prefs in an admin panel - or perhaps you forgot to upgrade the database and have not the column in the database
[00:31] <ikeco> there is such a setting there...let me see if it does what I expect--thanks
[00:32] <SEWilco2> sylvieg: I think ikeco was looking for the admin panel, not the DB table.
[00:33] <ikeco> both actually---and it does work...right on!
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[00:44] <lphuberdeau> sylvieg, about halfway through.. they did a nice job on the UI in the sense that it does not look as cluttered as tiki's, but I feel it has the same problem: it's implementation driven
[00:44] <lphuberdeau> I see the classes and relationships when I look at the UI
[00:44] <lphuberdeau> it's also very complicated in the sense that you need to know what you're doing
[00:54] <lphuberdeau> so far, I can see their pluggable field types as an advantage because it cleans up the code
[00:54] <lphuberdeau> URL stuff is nothing major
[01:05] <lphuberdeau> everything views except maybe the RSS part can be done through wiki pages and plugins
[01:07] <lphuberdeau> I was expecting more
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[01:09] <lphuberdeau> I heard someone praising the thing before... really not up to my expectations
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[03:13] <marclaporte> polom
[03:22] <lphuberdeau> back?
[03:24] <marclaporte> y
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[03:43] <marclaporte> lphuberdeau: : do you know if your office is open tomorrow 10am?
[03:44] <marclaporte> Patrick & I will go and work there
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[03:56] <chibaguy> lphuberdeau, will tiki-page_controls.tpl be implemented in other sections of Tiki sometime soon?
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[04:03] <chibaguy> Also the Actions dropdown appears on individual forum posts. This will also require template changes. 
[04:03] <chibaguy> (http://ui.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=5&imageId=28)
[04:05] <chibaguy> I wonder if this will be done in a new way, or should the current forum post actions just be restyled as a dropdown list.
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[04:08] <chibaguy> The basic question that I've styled the forums a couple of times already based on uploaded prototype images and wonder if I should wait for different tpls, or work with what we have now.
[04:08] <chibaguy> Before doing it again.
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[04:24] <chibaguy> Same for blogs. The templates for comments/posts are unified across Tiki sections/features. Is pkdille doing this?
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[05:00] <chibaguy> (email sent)
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[10:57] <marclaporte> polom chibaguy
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[11:19] <chibaguy> hi marclaporte
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[12:45] <ricks99> hi all
[12:46] <ricks99> anyone see my rss+tracker question on tw.o forums?
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[14:16] <marclaporte> lphuberdeau: : are you at your office one day this week?
[14:16] <marclaporte> Patrick and I are going this afternoon
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[14:58] <lphuberdeau> could be Thursday
[14:59] <lphuberdeau> might be able to switch for tomorrow if it's urgent, but I would need to confirm
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[15:41] <marclaporte> ok
[15:41] <marclaporte> if you can, it's good for me
[15:46] <lphuberdeau> you mean thursday?
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[16:56] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16047 /trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php: only formatting and quote  
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[17:09] <marclaporte> lphuberdeau: : did you confirm?
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[17:16] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16048 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: multilingual etxt and textarea  
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[17:20] <mib_6mmsxt> is there a way to disable TikiWiki-2.0 from using its own internal user passwords and instead ONLY rely on ldap?
[17:20] <mib_6mmsxt> err sorry 2.2
[17:22] <mib_6mmsxt> or is this impossible? I have an issue with users changing their ldap passwords and tikiwiki not reflecting the change
[17:22] <mib_6mmsxt> otherwise, logins work
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[17:32] <mib_6mmsxt> ?
[17:32] <mib_6mmsxt> is anyone even reading this?
[17:33] <ricks99> sorry. i have no experience with ldap authentication
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[17:41] <sylvieg> mib_6mmsxt: yes use the ldap in admin->login
[17:42] <mib_6mmsxt> yeah...it still checks the internal user db
[17:42] <mib_6mmsxt> and it wont update passwords
[17:42] <mib_6mmsxt> is there any way to just remove the internal pass DB check?
[17:42] <mib_6mmsxt> that would solve it all : (
[17:43] <sylvieg> for admin or any user?
[17:43] <mib_6mmsxt> admin is fine, all other users can login unless they change their ldap password
[17:44] <sylvieg> strnage ... working for me...
[17:44] <mib_6mmsxt> then tiki wont allow a login either with their old password or new ldap password
[17:44] <mib_6mmsxt> has there been a new release since early november?
[17:45] <mib_6mmsxt> if so, ill try updating to that and see if any ldap changes have been made
[17:45] <mib_6mmsxt> i do have one option unset that most seem to leave
[17:45] <mib_6mmsxt> and am not allowing tiki user creation if the user exists in ldap
[17:45] <mib_6mmsxt> due to the nature of the wiki
[17:46] <sylvieg> Authentification method is pear auth?
[17:46] <mib_6mmsxt> would this cause the issue of the internal DB passwords not being updated upon ldap auth?
[17:46] <mib_6mmsxt> yes
[17:46] <mib_6mmsxt> Create user if not in Tiki? is unchecked
[17:46] <sylvieg> user will be created in tikiwiki in anuy case - only the login/pass will be checked in ldap
[17:46] <mib_6mmsxt> hmmm
[17:47] <mib_6mmsxt> they are being checked, i can validate that
[17:47] <mib_6mmsxt> but tiki wont allow a login if the tiki stored password and the ldap password stop matching
[17:48] <mib_6mmsxt> is this due to the Create user if not in Tiki? being unchecked?
[17:48] <sylvieg> no if ldap it does not check the password in tiki
[17:48] <mib_6mmsxt> thats not the behavior i'm witnessing : (
[17:48] <mib_6mmsxt> let me try this again then
[17:49] <mib_6mmsxt> nope, won't work : (
[17:49] <mib_6mmsxt> would this be because the user's were created, and then ldap auth was turned on afterwards?
[17:50] <mib_6mmsxt> I had to that as a work around due to a flaw in the user creation process
[17:51] <sylvieg> I do not think it changes something if the user has being created before but I never tested this case
[17:51] <mib_6mmsxt> alright
[17:51] <mib_6mmsxt> the reason I did that is when creating a new user with tiki and pear selected as the login method, you cannot add the user because it requires a password but the password field is blank.
[17:53] <mib_6mmsxt> there isn't a password stored in the mysql db though
[17:53] <mib_6mmsxt> strange
[17:54] <sylvieg> strange I do not have this behavior ...
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[17:55] <mib_6mmsxt> I'm using 2.2
[17:55] <mib_6mmsxt> ill be back in a bit
[17:55] <mib_6mmsxt> i need to make sure something hasn't changed on ldap
[17:55] <mib_6mmsxt> i don't actually have control of that server
[18:02] <mib_6mmsxt> alright
[18:02] <mib_6mmsxt> i can change my password and get a correct ldap response using it
[18:03] <mib_6mmsxt> but tiki wont allow my auth
[18:03] <mib_6mmsxt> is there any way to actively watch how the auth process is moving along inside tikiwiki
[18:03] <mib_6mmsxt> or what page controls the actual login process?
[18:04] <sylvieg> the ldap code is in lib/pear/Auth/Container/LDAP.php
[18:05] <sylvieg> otherwise the code is in tiki-login.php or lib/userslib.php
[18:05] <mib_6mmsxt> ok
[18:05] <mib_6mmsxt> thanks
[18:09] <mib_6mmsxt> i see what you mean about the user creation thing
[18:09] <mib_6mmsxt> how they are made anyways
[18:18] <mib_6mmsxt> ok so looking at lib/userslib.php it looks like the code only updates the name?
[18:18] <mib_6mmsxt> i dont see where its pulling in the new password, but i'm not very familiar with php
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[18:36] <Partoftime> yop
[18:36] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by alain_desilets :: r 16049 /trunk/lib/core/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Still working on automatic paralel text alignment.  
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[18:42] <happy> try to load jpgraph mod -keep getting impossible to copy message
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[19:06] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16051 /trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: [MOD] clear cache button - forgotten commit  
[19:06] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16050 /trunk/templates/tiki-poll.tpl: comment_button  
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[19:16] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16057 /trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX]user: name pattern can be empty->no limitation  
[19:16] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16056 /trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: notice  
[19:16] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16055 /trunk/tiki-login.php: [FIX]login: all login errors must not redirect to login box  
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[19:21] <mib_6mmsxt> hmmmmm, so about the ldap logins
[19:21] <mib_6mmsxt> i've changed a couple things around in my userslib.php page
[19:22] <mib_6mmsxt> but i can't seem to get it to just ignore the case of the auth not matching tiki but matching ldap
[19:22] <mib_6mmsxt> because i can watch a successful bind occur yet i'm still denied entry
[19:22] <mib_6mmsxt> i'm assuming tiki still checks the has of the password before login correct?
[19:25] <mib_6mmsxt> i've found the line where it checks to see if my user is present in tiki and authenticated in ldap
[19:25] <mib_6mmsxt> it SHOULD be updating the DB password, but I don't appear to have that working?
[19:25] <mib_6mmsxt> something doesn't seem to be meshing between the ldap and tiki systems
[19:28] <sylvieg> if tiki fetchs the info on ldap , it does not copy the passwd on tw
[19:29] <mib_6mmsxt> then how do i make tiki stop checking its internal stuff
[19:30] <mib_6mmsxt> nevermind
[19:30] <mib_6mmsxt> i fixed that 
[19:31] <mib_6mmsxt> tiki wiki gets very unhappy if you don't allow the user to be created in the tiki if ldap says ok and tiki says no
[19:31] <mib_6mmsxt> so i just forced tiki to go on IF the user was found in ldap
[19:32] <mib_6mmsxt> now to see if this allows my users to still be correct
[19:36] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by alain_desilets :: r 16058 /trunk/lib/core/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Still working on automatic paralel text alignment.  
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[20:19] <mib_6mmsxt> sadly, no this doesn't work
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[20:58] <clicc> hi I'm having trouble with including javascript src files inside a plugin
[20:59] <clicc> it doesn't seem to read it at all, even if the .js file only has one line: window.alert("hi");
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[21:02] <marclaporte> clicc : : what version of tiki?
[21:03] <clicc> the latest, 2.2 I think
[21:03] <marclaporte> mib_6mmsxt: : greg matin is resident LDAP expert
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[21:04] <clicc> my goal was actually to create my own AJAX inside of a page that I'm generating from a plugin
[21:05] <clicc> and I originally wanted to include a js file so that I didn' thave to spit out every line of javascript to the $ret var in php
[21:06] <clicc> I've already tested on a separate page and it works outside of tikiwiki, so its not anything to do with server config at least
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[21:08] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16059 /trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [FIX]tracker: multilingue on text & textarea in normal view and TRACKER  
[21:14] <SEWilco2> My podcast dir is not showing .flv suffixes. Is there a config option for what suffixes are to be visible?
[21:15] <chattikiwiki1> Hi all. Sorry for breaking in but if you want a "drop down box" in main window to link to several "intertikis" what code shall i use ?
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[21:31] <clicc> what's the state of tikiwiki and ajax anyways?
[21:32] <clicc> I think in theory at least, it would benefit so much in terms of load time
[21:35] <sylvieg> it is better and better ;-)
[21:36] <clicc> haha awesome
[21:36] <clicc> I can't wait
[21:37] <SEWilco2> From what I've seen, the state is "Delaware".  Used to be "Rhode Island".  :-)
[21:38] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16060 /trunk/templates/tiki-poll_results.tpl: broken layout  
[21:38] <SEWilco2> For a price, the state can be "Illinois".  Real nice web site you've got here.  Would be a shame if something was to happen to it.  :-(
[21:40] * SEWilco2 thinks that it doesn't look right for a commit to be "broken layout" :-)
[21:42] <sylvieg> it is when pkdille did his find changes. It was a globla change
[21:48] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16061 /trunk/img/ (leftbar.gif mainbar.gif rightbar.gif): transparent icons in polls  
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[22:02] <clicc> i am an idiot
[22:02] <clicc> I figured it out, nothing wrong with it
[22:04] <SEWilco2> We all know there's nothing wrong with being an idiot.  All been there.  :-)
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[22:07] <clicc> haha
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[22:28] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16062 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: sql syntax  
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[22:38] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16063 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerstat.php: missing global  
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[22:44] <ezrakatz_> I am trying out search engine friendly urls for the first time and everything seems to be working fine, except that now the tiki-contact.php page no longer displays for anonymous users. I have the permissions set correctly, but as soon as I enable the htaccess file it stops allowing anonymous users to view the contact page. I tried deleting the renaming rule in the htaccess file but that did nothing. I'm running TikiWiki 2.2. Than
[22:52] <sylvieg> do you have alloww anonymous contact... in admin->general?
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[23:05] <marclaporte> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Structure&structure=Documentation  ->  (8.48)      http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Documentation&structure=Documentation    is 4.31
[23:05] <marclaporte> I don't understand the 8.48
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[23:06] <sylvieg> what does this number mean?
[23:07] <sylvieg> ah it is the place in the structure?
[23:07] <ezrakatz_> I thought I did, but it turned out it was disabled. It's working now. This is strange, the contact feature was working fine before I tried the search engine friendly url stuff. I'll play around to see if it was just my mistake. Thanks sylvieg.
[23:10] <marclaporte> sylvieg: But it's inconsistent
[23:10] <sylvieg> buggy..
[23:11] <ezrakatz_> I think this is a bug, every time I enable/disable a feature in the admin menu "contact-anon" becomes disabled
[23:11] <marclaporte> I wonder if this has always been buggy or a regression from 1.9
[23:12] <sylvieg> ezrakatz_: you are right
[23:12] <sylvieg> it is fiuxed in the next version
[23:13] <sylvieg> delete the line ./tiki-admin_include_features.php:		"contact_anon",
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[23:16] <ezrakatz_> That fixed the problem, thanks again!
[23:18] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16064 /branches/2.0/tiki-admin_include_features.php: [FIX] contact_anon was turned off each time a feature was changed- backport  
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[23:20] <dida> hi all
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[23:24] <marclaporte> sylvieg: : do you have an idea about this or I should just log as a bug on devtwo?
[23:26] <sylvieg> ned first to reproduce th bug on my local...
[23:27] <marclaporte> you can get a copy of doc.two :-)
[23:28] <sylvieg> I still have to fix the intertiki on doc...
[23:30] <sylvieg> can not reproduce on my local...
[23:31] <marclaporte> ok, InterTiki is more important
[23:31] <marclaporte> I have the bug here on a local wiki
[23:31] <sylvieg> intertiki bug?
[23:35] <marclaporte> no, structure bug
[23:35] <sylvieg> i think I have an idea
[23:36] <sylvieg> did you delete a part of the structure?
[23:36] <sylvieg> I am not sure the number are reset correctly
[23:36] <sylvieg> the structure UI ... needs really a revamp
[23:39] <sylvieg> .. th structure numbering is completly bugged
[23:40] <lphuberdeau> not just the UI
[23:40] <sylvieg> :-(
[23:41] <lphuberdeau> the lib is way too slow
[23:41] <lphuberdeau> that's on my plate too
[23:42] <sylvieg> yes the database schema is 'conceptual' not ok for mysql
[23:42] <lphuberdeau> well, it's not ok in any kind of relational db
[23:43] <sylvieg> the same for categ
[23:43] <sylvieg> need to represent properly tree in db
[23:43] <lphuberdeau> yeah
[23:43] <sylvieg> in db or cache...
[23:43] <lphuberdeau> has to be right in the DB from the start
[23:45] <sylvieg> .. I have not the solution for the best representaion - I saw a couple of articles about this - but never try
[23:48] <happy> Hello everyone (from newbie)
[23:48] <lphuberdeau> oh, don't worry about it, I know precisely how to do it, just need to clear up the higher priority stuff first
[23:49] <sylvieg> ok marclaporte- it will a some job to fix this the information comes directly from the database and it is not updated correctly - so ... 
[23:49] <sylvieg> +1 for lphuberdeau
[23:50] <sylvieg> marclaporte: fill up a bug report
[23:51] <happy> looking for jpgraph guru
[23:52] <lphuberdeau> so far, the queue looks like this... ui.tw.o... permission/category... ... structures
[23:52] * sylvieg feels old - sure I learnt this at school...
[23:53] <sylvieg> s/this tre in relational database
[23:53] <sylvieg> first jpgraph has a php 4 and a php5 download
[23:53] <happy> k
[23:54] <happy> using 5
[23:54] <sylvieg> otherwise jpgraph is very nice to use..
[23:54] <SEWilco2> sylvieg: In my day, at school they taught us how to write fixed length records on tape and when to change tapes.  And we liked multitape databases.
[23:55] <SEWilco2> ... and we hung an onion from the paper tape reader.
[23:55] * sylvieg feels happy - not so old...
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[23:56] <SEWilco2> You're not so cold either.  Out I go to 1 degree weather.
[23:56] * sylvieg was at the beginning of microprocessor - relational databases..
[23:56] <sylvieg> and artificial intelligence - it was the big dream
[23:56] <lphuberdeau> for me it was a few months ago
[23:57] <happy> excusa
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[23:58] <sylvieg> happy: what is your problem with jpgraph - it is only used in tw in contributions
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[23:59] <sylvieg> haapy left...