#tikiwiki 2008-12-16,Tue

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Who	What	When
sylvieg	of course	[00:01]
xTremePower	because french hosters are expensive	[00:01]
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sylvieg	has somebody a clear idea what is the difference between drupal CCK . and tracker?	[00:02]
xTremePower	for me i'ts chinese :)	[00:03]
sylvieg	drupal has the pathauto :-! a dynamic sefurl ...	[00:04]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: It doesn't matter whether I give show_image.php the scalesize=360 or not, I keep getting the original image.	[00:04]
sylvieg	I think you can not do it - becaue you need to be in a defined scale... so far I remember	[00:05]
SEWilco2	I see the thumb parameter, and that produces the size of my defined thumb (200). Oh, GD lib needs to be configured with permitted scales?	[00:06]
sylvieg	I think scale are not dynamically computed .. I THINK some code is missing Oh I am depressed http://learn.awakenedvoice.com/2007/07/30/drupal-cck-and-views-tutorial/ we have to work...	[00:07]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: Ah, I see thumb testing code in rebuild_image(). Tsk.	[00:11]
sylvieg	it should not be to hard to have a dynamic scaling....	[00:12]
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lphuberdeau	sylvieg, unless they completed their port to drupal 6, they also have to work ;)	[00:21]
sylvieg	lph give me more - I need some stimulus..	[00:23]
lphuberdeau	hum, started watching the video, downloading all field types sounds like a pain to me	[00:24]
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sylvieg	ok - but not sure we are doing better	[00:25]
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SEWilco2	SEWilco2 tickles sylvieg until it's enough stimulus.	[00:25]
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lphuberdeau	drupal is a lot more people, can't beat them everywhere	[00:26]
sylvieg	lph did you ever look into drupal code - is it clean? i nver look at drupal - I must admint	[00:26]
ikeco	Does anyone know where the pref "$show_author", in the "tiki-read article" template is stored, or can be set? Good evening, btw...	[00:28]
sylvieg	are you 1.9 or 2.x?	[00:29]
ikeco	2.2	[00:29]
SEWilco2	ikeco: Isn't show_author in Articles>admin types?	[00:29]
ikeco	lemme look--brb	[00:29]
sylvieg	seesm to be that 1) you are still on the prefs all way that in a prefs in an admin panel - or perhaps you forgot to upgrade the database and have not the column in the database	[00:30]
ikeco	there is such a setting there...let me see if it does what I expect--thanks	[00:31]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: I think ikeco was looking for the admin panel, not the DB table.	[00:32]
ikeco	both actually---and it does work...right on!	[00:33]
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lphuberdeau	sylvieg, about halfway through.. they did a nice job on the UI in the sense that it does not look as cluttered as tiki's, but I feel it has the same problem: it's implementation driven I see the classes and relationships when I look at the UI it's also very complicated in the sense that you need to know what you're doing	[00:44]
	so far, I can see their pluggable field types as an advantage because it cleans up the code URL stuff is nothing major	[00:54]
	everything views except maybe the RSS part can be done through wiki pages and plugins I was expecting more	[01:05]
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lphuberdeau	I heard someone praising the thing before... really not up to my expectations	[01:09]
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marclaporte	polom	[03:13]
lphuberdeau	back?	[03:22]
marclaporte	y	[03:24]
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marclaporte	lphuberdeau: : do you know if your office is open tomorrow 10am? Patrick & I will go and work there	[03:43]
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chibaguy	lphuberdeau, will tiki-page_controls.tpl be implemented in other sections of Tiki sometime soon?	[03:56]
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chibaguy	Also the Actions dropdown appears on individual forum posts. This will also require template changes. (http://ui.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=5&imageId=28) I wonder if this will be done in a new way, or should the current forum post actions just be restyled as a dropdown list.	[04:03]
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chibaguy	The basic question that I've styled the forums a couple of times already based on uploaded prototype images and wonder if I should wait for different tpls, or work with what we have now. Before doing it again.	[04:08]
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chibaguy	Same for blogs. The templates for comments/posts are unified across Tiki sections/features. Is pkdille doing this?	[04:24]
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chibaguy	(email sent)	[05:00]
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marclaporte	polom chibaguy	[10:57]
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chibaguy	hi marclaporte	[11:19]
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ricks99	hi all anyone see my rss+tracker question on tw.o forums?	[12:45]
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marclaporte	lphuberdeau: : are you at your office one day this week? Patrick and I are going this afternoon	[14:16]
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lphuberdeau	could be Thursday might be able to switch for tomorrow if it's urgent, but I would need to confirm	[14:58]
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marclaporte	ok if you can, it's good for me	[15:41]
lphuberdeau	you mean thursday?	[15:46]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16047 /trunk/tiki-view_tracker.php: only formatting and quote	[16:56]
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marclaporte	lphuberdeau: : did you confirm?	[17:09]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16048 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: multilingual etxt and textarea	[17:16]
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mib_6mmsxt	is there a way to disable TikiWiki-2.0 from using its own internal user passwords and instead ONLY rely on ldap? err sorry 2.2 or is this impossible? I have an issue with users changing their ldap passwords and tikiwiki not reflecting the change otherwise, logins work	[17:20]
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mib_6mmsxt	? is anyone even reading this?	[17:32]
ricks99	sorry. i have no experience with ldap authentication	[17:33]
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sylvieg	mib_6mmsxt: yes use the ldap in admin->login	[17:41]
mib_6mmsxt	yeah...it still checks the internal user db and it wont update passwords is there any way to just remove the internal pass DB check? that would solve it all : (	[17:42]
sylvieg	for admin or any user?	[17:43]
mib_6mmsxt	admin is fine, all other users can login unless they change their ldap password	[17:43]
sylvieg	strnage ... working for me...	[17:44]
mib_6mmsxt	then tiki wont allow a login either with their old password or new ldap password has there been a new release since early november? if so, ill try updating to that and see if any ldap changes have been made i do have one option unset that most seem to leave and am not allowing tiki user creation if the user exists in ldap due to the nature of the wiki	[17:44]
sylvieg	Authentification method is pear auth?	[17:46]
mib_6mmsxt	would this cause the issue of the internal DB passwords not being updated upon ldap auth? yes Create user if not in Tiki? is unchecked	[17:46]
sylvieg	user will be created in tikiwiki in anuy case - only the login/pass will be checked in ldap	[17:46]
mib_6mmsxt	hmmm they are being checked, i can validate that but tiki wont allow a login if the tiki stored password and the ldap password stop matching is this due to the Create user if not in Tiki? being unchecked?	[17:46]
sylvieg	no if ldap it does not check the password in tiki	[17:48]
mib_6mmsxt	thats not the behavior i'm witnessing : ( let me try this again then nope, won't work : ( would this be because the user's were created, and then ldap auth was turned on afterwards? I had to that as a work around due to a flaw in the user creation process	[17:48]
sylvieg	I do not think it changes something if the user has being created before but I never tested this case	[17:51]
mib_6mmsxt	alright the reason I did that is when creating a new user with tiki and pear selected as the login method, you cannot add the user because it requires a password but the password field is blank. there isn't a password stored in the mysql db though strange	[17:51]
sylvieg	strange I do not have this behavior ...	[17:54]
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mib_6mmsxt	I'm using 2.2 ill be back in a bit i need to make sure something hasn't changed on ldap i don't actually have control of that server	[17:55]
	alright i can change my password and get a correct ldap response using it but tiki wont allow my auth is there any way to actively watch how the auth process is moving along inside tikiwiki or what page controls the actual login process?	[18:02]
sylvieg	the ldap code is in lib/pear/Auth/Container/LDAP.php otherwise the code is in tiki-login.php or lib/userslib.php	[18:04]
mib_6mmsxt	ok thanks i see what you mean about the user creation thing how they are made anyways	[18:05]
	ok so looking at lib/userslib.php it looks like the code only updates the name? i dont see where its pulling in the new password, but i'm not very familiar with php	[18:18]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by alain_desilets :: r 16049 /trunk/lib/core/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Still working on automatic paralel text alignment.	[18:36]
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happy	try to load jpgraph mod -keep getting impossible to copy message	[18:42]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16051 /trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: [MOD] clear cache button - forgotten commit SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16050 /trunk/templates/tiki-poll.tpl: comment_button	[19:06]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16057 /trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX]user: name pattern can be empty->no limitation SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16056 /trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: notice SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16055 /trunk/tiki-login.php: [FIX]login: all login errors must not redirect to login box	[19:16]
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mib_6mmsxt	hmmmmm, so about the ldap logins i've changed a couple things around in my userslib.php page but i can't seem to get it to just ignore the case of the auth not matching tiki but matching ldap because i can watch a successful bind occur yet i'm still denied entry i'm assuming tiki still checks the has of the password before login correct? i've found the line where it checks to see if my user is present in tiki and authenticated in ldap it SHOULD be updating the DB password, but I don't appear to have that working? something doesn't seem to be meshing between the ldap and tiki systems	[19:21]
sylvieg	if tiki fetchs the info on ldap , it does not copy the passwd on tw	[19:28]
mib_6mmsxt	then how do i make tiki stop checking its internal stuff nevermind i fixed that tiki wiki gets very unhappy if you don't allow the user to be created in the tiki if ldap says ok and tiki says no so i just forced tiki to go on IF the user was found in ldap now to see if this allows my users to still be correct	[19:29]
Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by alain_desilets :: r 16058 /trunk/lib/core/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Still working on automatic paralel text alignment.	[19:36]
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mib_6mmsxt	sadly, no this doesn't work	[20:19]
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clicc	hi I'm having trouble with including javascript src files inside a plugin it doesn't seem to read it at all, even if the .js file only has one line: window.alert("hi");	[20:58]
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marclaporte	clicc : : what version of tiki?	[21:02]
clicc	the latest, 2.2 I think	[21:03]
marclaporte	mib_6mmsxt: : greg matin is resident LDAP expert	[21:03]
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clicc	my goal was actually to create my own AJAX inside of a page that I'm generating from a plugin and I originally wanted to include a js file so that I didn' thave to spit out every line of javascript to the $ret var in php I've already tested on a separate page and it works outside of tikiwiki, so its not anything to do with server config at least	[21:04]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16059 /trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [FIX]tracker: multilingue on text & textarea in normal view and TRACKER	[21:08]
SEWilco2	My podcast dir is not showing .flv suffixes. Is there a config option for what suffixes are to be visible?	[21:14]
chattikiwiki1	Hi all. Sorry for breaking in but if you want a "drop down box" in main window to link to several "intertikis" what code shall i use ?	[21:15]
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clicc	what's the state of tikiwiki and ajax anyways? I think in theory at least, it would benefit so much in terms of load time	[21:31]
sylvieg	it is better and better ;-)	[21:35]
clicc	haha awesome I can't wait	[21:36]
SEWilco2	From what I've seen, the state is "Delaware". Used to be "Rhode Island". :-)	[21:37]
Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16060 /trunk/templates/tiki-poll_results.tpl: broken layout	[21:38]
SEWilco2	For a price, the state can be "Illinois". Real nice web site you've got here. Would be a shame if something was to happen to it. :-( SEWilco2 thinks that it doesn't look right for a commit to be "broken layout" :-)	[21:38]
sylvieg	it is when pkdille did his find changes. It was a globla change	[21:42]
Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16061 /trunk/img/ (leftbar.gif mainbar.gif rightbar.gif): transparent icons in polls	[21:48]
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clicc	i am an idiot I figured it out, nothing wrong with it	[22:02]
SEWilco2	We all know there's nothing wrong with being an idiot. All been there. :-)	[22:04]
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ezrakatz_	I am trying out search engine friendly urls for the first time and everything seems to be working fine, except that now the tiki-contact.php page no longer displays for anonymous users. I have the permissions set correctly, but as soon as I enable the htaccess file it stops allowing anonymous users to view the contact page. I tried deleting the renaming rule in the htaccess file but that did nothing. I'm running TikiWiki 2.2. Than	[22:44]
sylvieg	do you have alloww anonymous contact... in admin->general?	[22:52]
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marclaporte	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Structure&structure=Documentation -> (8.48) http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Documentation&structure=Documentation is 4.31 I don't understand the 8.48	[23:05]
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sylvieg	what does this number mean? ah it is the place in the structure?	[23:06]
ezrakatz_	I thought I did, but it turned out it was disabled. It's working now. This is strange, the contact feature was working fine before I tried the search engine friendly url stuff. I'll play around to see if it was just my mistake. Thanks sylvieg.	[23:07]
marclaporte	sylvieg: But it's inconsistent	[23:10]
sylvieg	buggy..	[23:10]
ezrakatz_	I think this is a bug, every time I enable/disable a feature in the admin menu "contact-anon" becomes disabled	[23:11]
marclaporte	I wonder if this has always been buggy or a regression from 1.9	[23:11]
sylvieg	ezrakatz_: you are right it is fiuxed in the next version delete the line ./tiki-admin_include_features.php: "contact_anon",	[23:12]
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ezrakatz_	That fixed the problem, thanks again!	[23:16]
Tikiwiki\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16064 /branches/2.0/tiki-admin_include_features.php: [FIX] contact_anon was turned off each time a feature was changed- backport	[23:18]
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dida	hi all	[23:20]
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marclaporte	sylvieg: : do you have an idea about this or I should just log as a bug on devtwo?	[23:24]
sylvieg	ned first to reproduce th bug on my local...	[23:26]
marclaporte	you can get a copy of doc.two :-)	[23:27]
sylvieg	I still have to fix the intertiki on doc... can not reproduce on my local...	[23:28]
marclaporte	ok, InterTiki is more important I have the bug here on a local wiki	[23:31]
sylvieg	intertiki bug?	[23:31]
marclaporte	no, structure bug	[23:35]
sylvieg	i think I have an idea did you delete a part of the structure? I am not sure the number are reset correctly the structure UI ... needs really a revamp .. th structure numbering is completly bugged	[23:35]
lphuberdeau	not just the UI	[23:40]
sylvieg	:-(	[23:40]
lphuberdeau	the lib is way too slow that's on my plate too	[23:41]
sylvieg	yes the database schema is 'conceptual' not ok for mysql	[23:42]
lphuberdeau	well, it's not ok in any kind of relational db	[23:42]
sylvieg	the same for categ need to represent properly tree in db	[23:43]
lphuberdeau	yeah	[23:43]
sylvieg	in db or cache...	[23:43]
lphuberdeau	has to be right in the DB from the start	[23:43]
sylvieg	.. I have not the solution for the best representaion - I saw a couple of articles about this - but never try	[23:45]
happy	Hello everyone (from newbie)	[23:48]
lphuberdeau	oh, don't worry about it, I know precisely how to do it, just need to clear up the higher priority stuff first	[23:48]
sylvieg	ok marclaporte- it will a some job to fix this the information comes directly from the database and it is not updated correctly - so ... +1 for lphuberdeau marclaporte: fill up a bug report	[23:49]
happy	looking for jpgraph guru	[23:51]
lphuberdeau	so far, the queue looks like this... ui.tw.o... permission/category... ... structures	[23:52]
sylvieg	sylvieg feels old - sure I learnt this at school... s/this tre in relational database first jpgraph has a php 4 and a php5 download	[23:52]
happy	k using 5	[23:53]
sylvieg	otherwise jpgraph is very nice to use..	[23:54]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: In my day, at school they taught us how to write fixed length records on tape and when to change tapes. And we liked multitape databases. ... and we hung an onion from the paper tape reader.	[23:54]
sylvieg	sylvieg feels happy - not so old...	[23:55]
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SEWilco2	You're not so cold either. Out I go to 1 degree weather.	[23:56]
sylvieg	sylvieg was at the beginning of microprocessor - relational databases.. and artificial intelligence - it was the big dream	[23:56]
lphuberdeau	for me it was a few months ago	[23:56]
happy	excusa	[23:57]
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sylvieg	happy: what is your problem with jpgraph - it is only used in tw in contributions	[23:58]
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