[00:00] <sylvieg> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=File%20Gallery%20Config&structure=Documentation#Setting_the_maximum_upload_size_
[00:01] <jwbguitar> how do I get to that?  I am brand new to this
[00:02] <jwbguitar> Thank you for that link. I do remember seeing that
[00:06] <cnd> It's an operating system file - if you're not running this on your own PC, you've got to ask youur hosting place to change it for you.
[00:09] <jwbguitar> Ok. Thanks for the info. I will go do that right now. This is cool, I can actually get help here.
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[02:47] <cellvia> how do i close unordered lists in the wiki?
[02:47] <cellvia> did i mess up the code or is there a special marking to do
[02:48] <lphuberdeau> stop adding bullets at the begining of the line?
[02:51] <cellvia> hmm... if i have a line break without a bullet in front of it, does that count?
[02:51] <cellvia> because thats what isnt working
[02:51] <cnd> in a page, or in a menu ?
[02:52] <cellvia> page
[02:52] <cellvia> it shoudl close lists after a line break right?
[02:52] <cellvia> for unordered list
[02:53] <cnd> Hmm - an completely different idea might be to use the WYSIWYG editor?
[02:53] <cellvia> instead of the wiki markups editor?
[02:53] <cellvia> how do i turn that on?
[02:54] <chibaguy> Normally the list gets a closing tag automatically.
[02:54] <cnd> Have you got admin access on your install ?
[02:54] <chibaguy> I wonder if there's something unusual in the list item(s) that's making trouble.
[02:55] <cnd> (it's in the "experimental" options - then when you edit - there's a button at the top of the edit page to switch between the "normal" and WYSIWYG editor)
[02:55] <chibaguy> This is with the regular wiki syntax.
[02:56] <cnd> maybe there's an HTML <ul> someplace?
[02:57] <chibaguy> cellvia, is there just plain text in the list items?
[02:57] <lphuberdeau> wiki parser is usually reliable
[02:57] <lphuberdeau> there is an option not to consider single line breaks as line breaks
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[03:01] <cellvia> yes i do have admin access, and i also have been tweaking the code, but the part where it closes the list looks the same as my backup copy (in tikilib.php)
[03:01] <cellvia> yes it is plain text in the list items
[03:01] <cellvia> let me look tho to make sure theres nothing unusual
[03:04] <cellvia> its just normal lists but its not closing the ul tag
[03:05] <cellvia> its not closing them for ordered lists either i think perhaps my tweaking must have done it in, i just dont see why cause the pertinent sections are untouched
[03:05] <chibaguy> In an untweaked installation, unordered lists work as expected afaik.
[03:06] <cellvia> ok, cool, no special settings or anything to close the list?
[03:06] <cellvia> or special tag?
[03:06] <chibaguy> Nope.
[03:06] <cellvia> alrighty its my tweaking then
[03:06] <cellvia> thanks for the help :)
[03:07] <chibaguy> Sure.
[03:07] <chibaguy> I have seen a list item that contains box syntax throw off the end tag.
[03:08] <chibaguy> The box's closing div tag came after the list item closing tag, or something like that. But this is an unusual case.
[03:09] <cellvia> right right
[03:09] <chibaguy> Anyway, the tags were all there, just in the wrong sequence.
[03:09] <cellvia> how experimental is the wysiwig?  whats the notable bugs with it?
[03:09] <cellvia> wysiwyg*
[03:10] <chibaguy> I don't use it myself so don't know first hand. I image bugs are being reported at dev.tw.o.
[03:12] <cellvia> how far off is tiki 3?
[03:13] <cellvia> i like tiki 2 a lot, but ive been doing tons of customizing with it that def wont be compatible...  however i havent been changing the database structures at all so i figure at least the data i put into all my wikis could carry over
[03:13] <chibaguy> March is scheduled release time.
[03:15] <chibaguy> Oh, looks like April for Tiki 3: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=RoadMap
[03:16] * chibaguy was thinking march-april-ish....
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[03:19] <cellvia> ahh, cool... do oyou know anything about the mind mapping tool/plugin being developed for it?  maybe it was called neural networking or something
[03:21] <jwbguitar> hello. I need some help on installing a player onto my wiki site so users can listen to uploaded mp3's while they are there. Is this possible?
[03:22] <chibaguy> Well, there's been a Mindmap plugin around for quite a while, but I don't know anything about what's planned for Tiki 3 other than what's on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mind+Mapping.
[03:22] <lphuberdeau> just using wikimindmap
[03:23] <lphuberdeau> not very advanced so far... half a day of work only
[03:23] <lphuberdeau> just shows page relationships
[03:24] <cellvia> oh ok, cool
[03:24] <cellvia> thanks for the help guys im outta here! happy new year
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[03:28] <chibaguy> jwbguitar, I don't know about any wiki plugin in the current Tiki releases that'll play mp3s.
[03:29] <chibaguy> Some are supposed to, but not working afaik.
[03:32] <jwbguitar> So I guess that means that people will just have to download the file. I did see a mod in the admin mod section but it wont let me install
[03:33] <chibaguy> Flowplayer plugin works for me for video, and the flowplayer website shows using for mp3s (http://community.flowplayer.org/demo/mp3).
[03:33] <chibaguy> So might be worth checking out.
[03:34] <chibaguy> You can install the flowplayer files manually. Just get them and put them in the right places in your installation.
[03:34] <jwbguitar> I will do that and thanks for the help. I'm very new at this and it's been a learning experience.
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[03:36] <chibaguy> Sure.
[03:37] <jwbguitar> Ok. I'm out for the night. Thanks again.
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[03:47] <wikiman> !help
[03:47] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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[04:56] <cyndee> hello
[04:57] <cyndee> does anyone know if i can use my own written xhtml and css with this?
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[04:59] <cyndee> anyone there?
[04:59] <cyndee> does anyone know if i can use my own CSS and m own xhtml with my tikiwiki site
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[05:31] <chibaguy> Oops. Wasn't paying attention.
[05:33] <chibaguy> If cyndee checks back, for sure the CSS, but I don't know about the xhtml; that would depend on the purpose/details.
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[06:06] <cnd> I guess cyndee wants hew own "look and feel" - I've just done that myself, and I'm *very* happy with the results - basically - you choose a "theme" that is the closest match to what you want to do, then copy it over to your own new theme name, and modify it.
[06:07] <cnd> It's surprisingly quick and easy, and the template language stuff is quite cool.
[06:17] <chibaguy> :-)
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[07:39] <luciash> helloya
[07:39] <luciash> hi chibaguy :) didn't catch you here yesterday
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[08:10] <chibaguy> hi luciash :)
[08:11] <chibaguy> Our timing is off.
[08:11] <chibaguy> :-)
[08:13] <chibaguy> luciash, did you ever look at http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/ , as a fix for IE6 CSS problems?
[08:14] <luciash> out of sync :)
[08:14] <chibaguy> I tried it with Tiki and it fixed a lot of things that normally are a problem in IE6.
[08:15] <chibaguy> But couldn't quite get lite.css to work with it.
[08:15] <chibaguy> I think a margin problem with col3.
[08:15] <chibaguy> Anyway, I may test later some time.
[08:15] <luciash> i didn't tried it most probably in the past my intention was like to avoid js hacks
[08:16] <luciash> i'm not sure today :)
[08:16] <chibaguy> Yes, this is a major js hack for sure.
[08:16] <luciash> i mean how many ppl still use ie6 with JS off nowadays ?
[08:17] <luciash> what problems you mean to fix it with ?
[08:18] <luciash> *you'd like to fix
[08:19] <chibaguy> mm, font size, png transparency, support for pseudo elements in css (for suckerfish menus to work), etc.
[08:19] <luciash> ah, "makes transparent PNG work correctly under IE5 and IE6", i see
[08:20] <luciash> oh, i didn't know suckerfish menu doesn't work in IE6
[08:21] <luciash> hmm, "Unfortunately, the transparent background image cannot be tiled (repeated) using background-repeat. Nor can it be positioned using background-position."
[08:22] <luciash> http://ie7-js.googlecode.com/svn/test/png-background.html
[08:22] <luciash> but it could be used to improve the icons look for sure in Tiki
[08:23] <luciash> chibaguy: how was your x-mas holidays btw ? :)
[08:24] <chibaguy> Good, but kind of quiet. Kids are getting older, so it's not so special as when they're small.
[08:24] <chibaguy> Thanks for the CD!
[08:24] <chibaguy> Nice music, tho kind of political, which isn't usually my taste.
[08:25] <chibaguy> Your wife's singing is the best part, I think. :-)
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[08:39] <luciash> chibaguy: heheh, right. it's not my taste either when the lyrics are too descriptive... thanks, i'll tell her :)
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[12:53] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16182 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]watch: the feature user_watches is only for the eye and not the general admin watching like all pages changed  
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[13:53] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16183 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]img: use the max upload size from fgal as the one in img is bugged(do not look at post_max_size)  
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[15:23] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16184 /trunk/templates/ (2 files): [FIX]gal: indicate the default for thumb and image row to give an idea to user + do not display 0  
[15:31] <sylvieg> beurk: the function imagecreatefromstring uses 50M for an image on 3M ... beurk....
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[16:03] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 16185 /trunk/ (lib/ajax/ajaxlib.php tiki-adminusers.php): [FIX] ajax: handle confirmation steps through AJAX using a javascript dialog  
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[16:16] <lq_000> good afternoon
[16:17] <lq_000> can somebody help my explain how to remove al the icons and just have tekst buttons?
[16:18] <sylvieg> move the image directories away and you will have the alt text
[16:19] <lq_000> thanks a lot!
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[16:33] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 16186 /trunk/templates/modules/mod-blog_last_comments.tpl: [MOD] blog_last_comments module: add a date info as in 'last_blog_post' module + 'nodate' param to hide it  
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[16:42] <ricks99> hi all
[16:42] <ricks99> need help with a htaccess/sefurl problem....
[16:43] <ricks99> when my wiki page contains an apostrophe ( ' ), the sefurl links work fine....
[16:43] <ricks99> but the regular tiki-index.php?page=  links do not. i get a 403 Forbidden error
[16:44] <ricks99> anyone have an idea?
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[16:45] <ricks99> i have acutal url examples if that would help....
[16:49] <sylvieg> from which page do you use tiki-index.php?
[16:50] <ricks99> tiki-listpages.php
[16:50] <ricks99> (as well as category lists...)
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[16:51] <ricks99> only seems to fail on ' (single quote)... other charcaters are fine
[16:52] <sylvieg> strange tikitrunk/tiki-index.php?page=a'b or tikitrunk/a'b are ok for me
[16:53] <ricks99> not using trunk... using 2
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[16:53] <ricks99> for example. look here: http://newsletter.stc-carolina.org/tiki-listpages.php?initial=f
[16:54] <ricks99> The link to the first article (Facutly Advisor's New Year's Message) fails, but...
[16:54] <ricks99> sefurl works fine: http://newsletter.stc-carolina.org/Faculty+Advisor's+New+Year's+Message
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[16:54] <ricks99> cannot figure out what i did wrong :(
[16:55] <ricks99> is this line in htaccess in error: RewriteRule     ^([^/\.]+)$    tiki-index.php?page=$1
[16:59] <sylvieg> the site is not answering for me - it is fine in my local 2.x
[17:00] <ricks99> not answering? hm... im online right now....
[17:00] <ricks99> do u see any problem with the rewrite line (above)?
[17:02] <sylvieg> it is the standard tw rule? except the [QSA, L]
[17:02] <ricks99> afaik
[17:02] <ricks99> anything on Tiki's side that would cause a 403? or should i dig deeper into the host?
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[17:04] <sylvieg> you have a rewrite rule above that is wrong
[17:05] <ricks99> can u assist? what should it be?
[17:05] <sylvieg> as you are redirected to newsletter
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[17:06] <ricks99> (everything *used* to work fine)
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[17:24] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16187 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Support for group watches, UI still to come  
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[17:53] <sylvieg> ricks99: try to comment all the other rewrite rules in your .htaccess to seee if there is an interference
[17:56] <ricks99> or just remove it?
[17:57] <ricks99> no change... (other than the SEFURL no longer working)
[17:58] <sylvieg> without .htaccess the tikik-index.php is not working?
[17:58] <ricks99> correct. still not working
[17:58] <ricks99> i dont understand why it returns a 403 error on tiki-index.php ?
[17:59] <sylvieg> why when I type http://www.stc-carolina.org/tiki-sdfsdfsfsfsfd.php I go to http://www.stc-carolina.org/tiki-page.php?pageName=(Error%20404)%20Page%20Not%20Found
[17:59] <sylvieg> do you have a redirct on a page if error (do not remember if it is a 2.x or 3.x)
[17:59] <ricks99> i redirected the error page
[18:00] <ricks99> 2.x
[18:00] <sylvieg> take away the redirect page
[18:00] <ricks99> the redirect is on the "parent" domain .htaccess
[18:00] <ricks99> the /newsletter/ isa subdomain
[18:01] <ricks99> ok all htaccess files have been disabled
[18:02] <ricks99> but tiki still repors a 403 error
[18:03] <sylvieg> :-( http://www.stc-carolina.org/newsletter/tiki-index.php?page=ab is ok but http://www.stc-carolina.org/newsletter/tiki-index.php?page=a'b is not ok
[18:03] <ricks99> yes. (at least ur able to duplicate the issue). 
[18:03] <ricks99> is there (maybe, grasping at straws here) something in my php.ini that i should look for?
[18:04] <sylvieg> but http://www.stc-carolina.org/newsletter/tiki-print.php?page=a%27b is ok
[18:04] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16188 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [INDENT] No changes  
[18:04] <sylvieg> so it can be the redirects in tiki-index.php that are not correct
[18:05] <ricks99> something in the tiki-index.php file? i'll start digging.
[18:05] <ricks99> did something change in 2.x (as i said, this *used* to work fine)
[18:08] <ricks99> "Similar" option is disabled. so why would tiki-index.php be redirecting anything?
[18:09] <sylvieg> is there an option for the like page? it is on simular?
[18:09] <ricks99> Wiki confing: similar
[18:10] <sylvieg> if you have acees to the access_log have a look inside perhaps you will understand...
[18:10] <ricks99> "When viewing a page, if it doesn't exist and has one like page, automatic redirection to this like page:" is also disabled
[18:14] <ricks99> host says that "magic_quotes_gpc" setting default was recently changed (to off ). would that account for error?
[18:19] <sylvieg> I do not think so
[18:20] <ricks99> odd... a "smart" single quote gets converted to %E2%80%99 and works just fine .... 
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[18:30] <ricks99> weirdness continues... the tiki-rename_page.php is fine with the single quote....
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[18:31] <ricks99> guessing that the problem is in tiki-index.php somewhere...
[18:31] <sylvieg> yes I go for that
[18:31] <sylvieg> but where...
[18:31] <ricks99> any idea on where in the world to start looking?
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[18:33] <sylvieg> try to comment like_page 
[18:34] <sylvieg> I do not like this code there some match with characters...
[18:39] <ricks99> no diffrence
[18:39] <ricks99> <sigh>
[18:41] <ricks99> ok. it is *definately* something on the server-side. I reinstated my old 1.10 and 1.9 versions and am now encountering the same issue.
[18:41] <ricks99> and i am 100% sure it worked fine before
[18:42] <ricks99> will follow up with my host... and try to see what they changed
[18:42] <ricks99> tx for the elp
[18:42] <ricks99> *help
[18:45] <SEWilco2> Oh, great.  One of my sites is getting 503 from Varnish.  Other site on same server (same Varnish!) is OK.
[18:54] <SEWilco2> Hmm. I remove my plugin and 503 goes away.  PHP can cause "Error 503 Service Unavailable"?
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[19:12] <SEWilco2> Aha, I had an infinite loop in my plugin's test mode.  PHP detected the loop in an infinitely short time.
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[19:58] <ricks99> @sylvieg: issue with ' was due to a mod_security rule.working now. tx anyway for ur help
[19:58] <SEWilco2> ricks99: Good to know.
[19:59] <ricks99> indeed 
[19:59] <sylvieg> yeh good to know :-)
[19:59] <sylvieg> .. but why it was only with tiki-index.php???
[19:59] <SEWilco2> I'll just say the following for the benefit of web searchers: tikiwiki apostrophe mod_security apache apache2
[20:00] <ricks99> the rule caught a url with a ' and returned a 403 to the root index (which calls tiki-index.php)
[20:01] <ricks99> so apache was issuing a "permission denied" on tiki-index.php
[20:01] <ricks99> easy fix... 
[20:01] <ricks99> once u know what to look for.
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[20:36] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 16190 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]FLASH: do not json_encode just a " to be able to have flash url with /  
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[20:56] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16191 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Adding more preferences to control search results output  
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[21:16] <Tikiwiki|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16192 /trunk/lib/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Picking up a few loose ends  
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