#tikiwiki 2009-01-07,Wed

I'm using Tiki-wiki 2.0 with the damian.css theme. At the bottom of the wiki pages there's a line that gets drawn through the "edited ....". http://www.donaldegray.com/tiki-index.php is one such example. Is there some way to have the line above the "edited ..." information?

[12:30]

luciash

holyfeld: yep, it's a visual CSS bug

[12:37]

holyfeld

so my choice is to live with it or change themes?

[12:38]

Caarrie

or try to fix it ;)

[12:39]

luciash

edit the damian.css
look for .editdate or page-bar
and give it margin-top: 10px or something

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[12:41]

luciash

just note that damian.css is pretty old theme and is no more supported

[12:41]

holyfeld

Don't know that much about css ... may give it a try. What's the worse that could happen?
Hmm. I was using the olive-blue theme, but the cursor always landed in the "login" box when people went to the home page. I shuffled stuff so it didn't require scrolling back to the top to read the page.

[12:42]

luciash

holyfeld: if you back the file up nothing will happen

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holyfeld

Or I can look at http://tikiwiki.org/Themes_for_TW2 and download a new theme! ;{)>

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Jyhem

Polomrn
holyfeld: when you edit a css and nothing seems to happen, try shift-reload instead of reload (sometimes the browser keeps the css in cache)

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SVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 16195 /trunk/ (37 files in 37 dirs): [FIX] Typo

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gferreira

hello tikiwiki
i have a quick question about icons
i have a set of custom icons i would like to use with tiki
is there a way to integrate them in my stylesheet without overriding the existing icons?
i mean, is there a special place where i should put them, in the same way i put custom .tpl files in templates/styles/MyStylesheet/ ?

[13:54]

ricks99

maybe in ../pics/.. or ../img/..

[13:58]

gferreira

the images i want to use correspond to the ones in img/icons and img/icons2

[14:01]

ricks99

you want to simply override the default icons? can you just replace them?

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gferreira

yes, i can simply override them
i was just wondering if there is a way to add them without overriding the current ones

[14:02]

Caarrie

change the path in all the tpl's and css

[14:03]

gferreira

it would be nice to choose between icon sets like we choose themes, but independently from themes

[14:05]

ricks99

good idea

[14:07]

gferreira

thanks for the suggestions. i will simply rename img/icons to img/icons_default, and add mine to img/icons

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holyfeld

I've inherited a tiki-wiki site. Is there some way to see all the wiki pages? A list? A map showing connections?

[14:26]

sylvieg

gferreira is gone but you can overwrite icons as you overwrite templates icons/styles/mystyle/ ... I think (it is in the doc.tw)

[14:27]

ricks99

@holyfeld: if the option is enabled, you can select Wiki > List Pages

see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+config#Wiki_Page_List_Configuration

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sylvieg

http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+3D

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ricks99

is there any way to find all wiki pages that have *no* freetags?

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luciash

oin qutecom
oops, sorry :)

[14:57]

holyfeld

@ricks99 - I enabled the List Pages option. it's a start, but there's 7 pages of wiki pages. I'm hoping for a single page I can print (knowing that the printout will be longer than a printed page).
@sylvieg - enabled the necessities. It looks like it's currently working.

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ricks99

change the "max records" to display more items on each page

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16196 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/templates/ (12 files): [MOD] Replacing display mode to use more classic include

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holyfeld

@ricks99 - max records did the trick.

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SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16197 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/lib/TikiPageControls.php: [MOD] Adding support for smarty-style button

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sylvieg

where do we active the watch by group?

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lphuberdeau

sylvieg... I don't understand the purpose of your last commit
seems like attempting to hide errors

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 16198 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): notice: wondering why DecFilter needs so many level of array?

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sylvieg

if you can explain great - just that the inputConfiguration of admin_notif is different from tiki-index
it is missing a level of array
+ there is a catchAllUnset that is null and not an arry...
so so far I understood - tell me if I am wrong - I added a level of array to have all the methos checked + added a test for the cathAllUnset

[15:32]

lphuberdeau

I might have made an error... can't say why I didn't detect it thought
catchAllUnset is an increased level of filteting... means everything gets a specified filter or is removed from input

[15:36]

sylvieg

i have only the show error always open ;-)

[15:37]

lphuberdeau

I hate that it's at the bottom of the page... really below my eye sight

[15:38]

sylvieg

in my style I have #errors {z-index: 1023; position: absolute; top: 0px;}

[15:39]

lphuberdeau

but the reason why there are so many levels of arrays is that the validations are meant to be stacked... you could have multiple of each validation type

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sylvieg

I am not sure to follow you .. I do not understand why the previous inputConfiguration of tiki-admin_notif is not enough... seems powerful to me - so is it the code that must be adapted to the more simple form on inputConfiguation or I missed some thing

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lphuberdeau

well, one aspect is that I expect some generic parameters, like stuff found often, to be added from different parts of the code
for example, nothing from the comments include is validated right now because I can't understand line of that mess

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lphuberdeau

but if validation can be made for it, it should also be as an include of some sort, so it could just append the blocks it needs to the input configuration
page config remains intact
without the additional levels, staticKeyFilters would be overwritten at some point
about the page controls stuff... feel free to ask me all your questions here... might save some time over the email exchanges

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sylvieg

for inputConfiguration ... I did not get it - but if you say so ... ok :-)

[16:13]

lphuberdeau

I just commited an alternative layout
works just the same, but looks less verbose

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lphuberdeau

well... think about some generic parameters like sort_mode, offset, maxRecords, ...
we could automatically prepend their declaration and not have to worry about them in each file
filtering order would become... generic declarations ... page specific ... generic XSS filtering
(last one is blocked by catchAllUnset which simply removed the values instead of filtering)
anyway... this is a long term effort... for now, one page at the time

[16:18]

sylvieg

but if it is not easy to understand , you will be the only one to do the job

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16199 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Removing silent error avoidance and using less verbose filter declarations (example)

[16:23]

lphuberdeau

It's not that hard
and it does not matter if not everything is done... as long as those causing <x> problems get fixed, it's good.
and I'm sure there will be plenty of volunteers for that

[16:23]

sylvieg

in ui-revamp when I activate user watch, where the button appears?

[16:26]

lphuberdeau

designer did not specify that ;)
I guess it should be in actions..

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sylvieg

it is why I say it is to rigid for now...

[16:27]

lphuberdeau

hum... incomplete, not rigid
in fact, the watch action is just undefined at this time

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sylvieg

the refresh cache?
how can I say that I want watch and refresh as icon and not in the actions list?
on a fresh ui-revemp install - I have still the edit/rename.. bar at the bottom . How can I desactivate it?

[16:33]

lphuberdeau

not all actions are defined... so you need to modify the TikiPageControls_Wiki part
addActionsMenu probably
the page bar will be removed... transitional state

[16:36]

page controls can also define the footer
just a different template

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16200 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Only show down arrow on menu elements

[16:43]

lphuberdeau

I have the feeling the user options should be somewhere else
but I'm no designer
some sort of User menu

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ricks99

q: what perm is required to use tiki-comments.php? I have tiki_p_admin_comments but still get "You do not have permission to use this feature "

[18:42]

lphuberdeau

that's ui-revamp only

[18:42]

ricks99

?
using 2.2

[18:43]

lphuberdeau

no wait... not the same
that file does not exist...

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ricks99

sorry: tiki-list_comments.php

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zuzonline

hello

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lphuberdeau

tiki_p_admin

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zuzonline

ive been trying for a while to find the web cam mod online, anyone know where i can get the mod?
multi cam, that is

[18:45]

lphuberdeau

should be on mods.tikiwiki.org

[18:46]

ricks99

hm...that means they have perm to do a lot of other damage....
ie., change groups & perms

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lphuberdeau

not sure what the purpose of that file is
looks like a comment admin page

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ricks99

y. shouldnt it check for tiki_p_admin_comments... not tiki_p_admin
*rick thinks this is a bug

[18:47]

lphuberdeau

stop calling everything bugs

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ricks99

tiki_p_admin_comments *should* let me admin the comments, y?

[18:48]

lphuberdeau

how am I supposed to know?

[18:48]

ricks99

ur more of an xpert then me :)

[18:49]

zuzonline

the thing is that it says its on the mods, but when you download the file, only multicam.tpl is there, nothing else

[18:51]

lphuberdeau

I only write code, I don't really use tikiwiki

[18:53]

zuzonline

this is the site where im downloading the file http://mods.tikiwiki.org/ but when i unpack, there is only 1 file there under a few folders
:(

[18:53]

ricks99

@zuzonline: looks like it is missing in SVN, too

[18:54]

zuzonline

im very new to tikiwiki, what would SVN be?

[18:55]

ricks99

code respository

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zuzonline

i played with alot of other php based sites, tiki seems something i would enjoy
any other place where i could download the files?
searched on google all over the net

[18:55]

ricks99

other than the repository, not that im aware of

[18:56]

zuzonline

but i only speak english, portuguese and spanish, i cant understand some of the other sites that might have it

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zuzonline

some of the php sites i used had mods on german sites or other langs i couldnt understand

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ricks99

source is listed here: http://caracas.trollparty.org/multicam.phps
have no idea about implementation, sorry

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zuzonline

:( looks like it needs more files

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lphuberdeau

that mod is probably very old and unmaintained... sorry about that

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16202 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/lib/ (2 files): [MOD] Use smarty to display icons and resolve paths

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lphuberdeau

tiki changes a lot over time, mods rarely follow

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zuzonline

i see
im really new to this
got my site running but havent had the time to play with the mods or anything
a few years ago i used to have a php nuke site that had a decent amount of traffic

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lphuberdeau

one of the frequent debate is wether we should drop mods altogether... shows how much they are worth

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zuzonline

well about 6-8 years ago

[19:04]

lphuberdeau

tiki out of the box does a lot... not much use for mods

[19:04]

zuzonline

got hacked :(

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lphuberdeau

mods are terrible for security... core of the app may be reliable, but all that code you gather around may not follow the same quality standards
(not only about tiki)

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zuzonline

kinda wanted something like dolphin but something that didnt cost that much and it actually works
true
but its more of a hobby
and thats how i learn my stuff
you know, playing around
just for fun

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lphuberdeau

playing around is fun

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zuzonline

yes it is, but now im not sure if tiki is right for me, since i do enjoy playing with the mods

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SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16203 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding page to list attachments independently and fixing some notices

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SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16204 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Clean-up the bottom bar

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 16205 /branches/experimental/ui-revamp/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX] notice

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Caarrie

Caarrie thinks CIA-49 might start to speak again

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 16206 /branches/2.0/tiki-list_comments.php: [FIX]to admin the comments, need to check for tiki-p-admin-comments permission -- not tiki-p-admin

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lphuberdeau

wow... categorize.php is amazing in the way it works... defies any logic

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Caarrie

anyone have a commit they can do so i can test CIA-49? please ;)

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lphuberdeau

made enough for today

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SEWilco2

Oh, I don't know if the CIA needs help. :-)
I'm still making bugs. Just emitted '<img 0="" src="...' even though code only has '<img src="...' :-(

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ricks99

i just refreshed trunk from svn... in tiki-setup.php, there is no closing ?>
is that correct?

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Caarrie

ok as i was saying can someone do an svn commit so i can test CIA-49 ;)

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ricks99

commit on its way

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Caarrie

thanks ricks99 ;)

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ricks99

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Tikiwiki|bot

SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 16207 /trunk/tiki-list_comments.php: [FIX]to admin the comments, need to check for tiki-p-admin-comments permission -- not tiki-p-admin

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Caarrie

:( CIA-49 still failed

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ok CIA-49 should be fixed for real now ;)

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epoe

Does anyone know which files/folders of 2.2a I should use on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1831
Or is it a complete replacement for 2.2?

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lphuberdeau

2.2a?

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epoe

The text in the "solution" field states "...update by JB 15 oct 2008 tiki version 2.2a"

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lphuberdeau

probably a full replacement... but know that this is not an official release

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SEWilco2

In a filegal, how can a user view an image with its description? Images in filegal have some advantages, but I don't see how to view only one image's details without having edit priv.
Heh. http://www.theredbulls.org/tiki-upload_file.php?galleryId=5&fileId=9 "Permission denied you can edit this file"
I can editz file?

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