#tikiwiki 2009-01-13,Tue

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CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03sewilco * r16257 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] add feature_sefurl_filter for Smarty SEFURL filtering (web cache recommended).	[00:15]
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billf	hi - I have created a plugin to allow a table to be included in a wiki using syntax like Mediawiki, i.e. you can use html attributes, set captions, column widths, etc.	[04:33]
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billf	Hi - I've written a new plugin and want to know if it's worth committing	[04:40]
chibaguy	Hi billf, I suggest that you ask on the tikiwiki-devel mailing list.	[04:41]
billf	ok - thanks - bye	[04:42]
chibaguy	Sounds good, esp. for people used to Mediawiki.	[04:42]
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babush	Hi..I have question regarding staging and approval am new to this chat..may i know how this support works	[08:20]
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luciash	polom	[08:42]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r16258 10/mods/trunk/Packages/features-aulawiki.info.txt: [FIX]Automatically (re)set the workspaces-assistant module to the right column at install time (it was lost for some reason long ago)	[08:47]
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xavi	polom chibaguy or luciash , hi, and I need your help to update aulawiki tpl's to work fine with Tiki 2.x and/or the worksapces.css ... s/worksapces.css/workspaces.css	[09:14]
	chibaguy, btw, where do you specify "theme options"? I see that thenews.css in trunk have "wider_left_column.css" optional... and I was in process to adapt workspaces to use thenews.css as base but I haven't foud out where to add this optional css to the new workspaces.css	[09:24]
	"options", I got it.	[09:29]
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xavi	luciash ?	[09:34]
luciash	re :)	[09:34]
xavi	hi again here also, then :-)	[09:35]
luciash	ok, so your question is above or something else now ?	[09:36]
xavi	I've just tried the old workspaces.css theme style (css and tpl's), and one of the things I don't know how to improve/solve, is why the main application menu just dissapeared each time I change theme to workspces.css-1.9.ready	[09:36]
luciash	ah	[09:36]
xavi	there it is	[09:36]
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chibaguy	hi xavi, sorry, wasn't paying attention.	[09:36]
xavi	Where should I look for? I mean, ... hi chibaguy ! :-) (long time no speak)	[09:37]
luciash	yo chibaguy :)	[09:37]
xavi	chibaguy: not today, I mean in general I'm doing my best to set also the workspaces theme as "2.x ready"...	[09:37]
luciash	xavi: can we test ?	[09:37]
xavi	and I feel I'm getting close, but not yet there...	[09:38]
chibaguy	Yeah, my schedule has been kind of irregular lately.	[09:38]
xavi	luciash.... mmmm, yes (so far I'm testing my "potential mesh" only in local) s/mesh/mess (oh, my English)	[09:38]
chibaguy	Theme options are new in trunk, so I don't think they are relevant for Tiki 2.	[09:39]
xavi	yes, chibaguy, but I'm also making it ready for 3.x ;-)	[09:39]
chibaguy	Oh, good.	[09:39]
luciash	chibaguy: cool, you implemented it (?)	[09:39]
xavi	I don't want to make the same effort, if possible, in a couple of months...	[09:39]
chibaguy	No, it was Jonny B.	[09:39]
luciash	chibaguy: i think thenews.css should have it wider by default though, is it ?	[09:39]
xavi	luciash: +1	[09:40]
luciash	the left column, as we spoke	[09:40]
chibaguy	luciash, for now I left the narrow left column as default and the wider one as the option. But am totally open to switching that, if it's better the other way.	[09:40]
xavi	luciash, Im uploading the theme files to edu.tw.o for testing there...	[09:40]
luciash	chibaguy: i think so because then everything fits in there perfectly by default xavi: cool	[09:41]
chibaguy	Sure, luciash, I'll change it then.	[09:41]
xavi	chibaguy: +1 to set wider by default (it's been the frist thing I've just done, nowadays that I saw the option -> mostmodules were not fully showing)	[09:41]
luciash	xavi: my terminal beeps now ;)	[09:42]
chibaguy	Is the width OK to you (on side columns)? I forgot what px size you said before.	[09:42]
luciash	what is it now ?	[09:43]
xavi	chibaguy: good enough on the optional css right now. so I would say take that one as default	[09:43]
chibaguy	214px for both left and right cols. xavi, btw, to add a theme option for a theme, you just need to make an "options" directory inside styles/the_theme/ and put the option style sheet in there. (I don't know if that was your question or not....)	[09:44]
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xavi	chibaguy: yes, that was one of the questions, which I could find out some minutes ago. Thanks for the answer, anyway :-) mmm, packaging mods from tikitrunk doesn't save the "options" directory though... :-/	[09:50]
chibaguy	Are the options directory and files listed in the package file? I don't see them there (http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/Packages/features-aulawiki.info.txt)	[09:54]
	(I'm looking forward to updating the Tikipedia theme using the ui-revamp page control tabs. Should be much better than my kludges in the past. ;-) )	[10:05]
luciash	+1 :)	[10:07]
xavi	chibaguy: :-) you are right, it's my problem, then! :-) I'll update that also, and commit back to svn once the theme is working I'm half way to leave a beta-testing copy on edu.tw.o to be installed by admin mods interface from any tiki... I managed to make it work in local... so I'm uploading the files to edu.tw.o to make it temporarily an alternative install site for aulawiki 1.6.2 (so that you can test from those files, if you want)	[10:08]
luciash	xavi: thanks :)	[10:10]
chibaguy	:-)	[10:11]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16259 10/trunk/styles/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Make normal-width side columns version the default, and narrow-left, wider-right the theme option (based on advice from luciash).	[10:15]
luciash	chibaguy: thanks :)	[10:23]
chibaguy	:-)	[10:24]
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xavi	gosh... no way to have it properly set at edu.tw.o there is some 403 error, when tiki attempts to pull the mod on a server (tgz with perms 644 on the remote server, servir tikimods)	[10:51]
luciash	xavi, manually ?	[10:53]
xavi	yes, even manually through wget... I don't understand what's wrong try wget http://edu.tikiwiki.org/mods/Dist/features-aulawiki-1.6.2.tgz 403 forbidden but the file is 644 on the server however, on local, it worked fine (from a tiki20svn to a tikitrunk, both on my local box) and this type of problem with mods has also been reported by several users wit tiki 2.2 recently when you try through tiki admin mods interface, you get a message: "File mods/Cache/features-aulawiki-1.6.2.tgz is not a valid archive" because what it retrieves is not a valid tgz file, because it doesn't get the file itself but something else (some 403 response by the server, I guess)	[10:54]
luciash	yeah i get 403 here too must be edu.tw.o server configuration	[11:04]
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marclaporte	polom	[11:12]
xavi	hi marclaporte luciash , could htaccess be responsible for that? hold on...	[11:13]
luciash	yep i believe there's tgz forbidden	[11:13]
xavi	this is the files match at .htaccess tiki root: http://pastebin.com/m52e89bba but there is nothing in there for tgz I'll try with a txt or so rrrrr, not even at simple text file: http://edu.tikiwiki.org/mods/Dist/features-aulawiki.info.txt how can I grant permission to that directory? argh, it's a problem with the permission of the upper level directory "Dist"! let's see... yes! that was it! luciash , and chibaguy, you can install aulawiki for 2.2 (nearly bug free) through setting this mods repository: http://edu.tikiwiki.org/mods	[11:16]
luciash	xavi: kewl, thank you, i'll try it later today	[11:28]
xavi	thanks for testing, luciash. the tpl files might not be 2.x ready, but the theme workspaces.css are least nowadays is taking thenews.css as its base. after insstalling, change theme to workspaces.css and the main application menu should be gone (happened to me on tiki20svn and tikitrunk I?ve seen a templates/styles/workspaces/modules/mod-application_menu.tpl ... which might be old... maybe that's why? anyways, your feedback, whenever you can look at it, will be very welcome. no urgency	[11:32]
luciash	fine :)	[11:38]
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billf	msg NickServ identify beefheart	[12:19]
Caarrie	thanks for your password :P	[12:19]
billf	I don't unnerstan irc! it said identify! anyway not a lot to hide :-) can anyone give me advice on (perhaps) committing a plugin I tried posting to the tikiwiki-devel list but there doesn't seem to be a lot happening there	[12:20]
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xavi	billf: you seem you missed the starting slash / in front of msg (I know how you feel, it happened to me some time ago :-/ ) it takes some time, but you can change that passwd on irc billf: did you read how to get commit access , on http://dev.tikiwiki.org ?	[12:27]
sylvieg	SEWilco: tiki-sefurl.php is missing	[12:28]
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sylvieg	billf: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki%20Plugins#Creating_A_Plugin	[12:33]
xavi	chibaguy, what's the setp by step process to add a new folder to svn (that options folder for workspaces styles in mods)? my kdesvn is complaining that I can't upload it... s/upload/commit	[12:37]
marclaporte	billf: I saw your mail on dev list Started an answer	[12:39]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r16260 10/mods/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] several tiny fixes for display at Tiki 2.x and 3.0 + my first own bugfix for workspces desktop (pingus forgot on his patch to fix that same old variable for wstypeId at tiki-workspaces_desktop.php)	[12:41]
xavi	marclaporte: any nesws for your trip details to the TikiFest in Madrid?	[12:43]
deepcut	marclaporte: you gave me developer access on the project some time ago. you may as well remove me though oh right, I can remove myself from it the issue I was interested in has been resolved in the latest versions anyway	[12:44]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16261 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_features.php: [FIX] contact_anon's admin is on the general admin page now tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16262 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [ENH] Better defaults for wiki_3d	[12:51]
marclaporte	xavi: : we are looking for plane tickets now lph, matthew and myself coming for sure 15-16-17 feb deepcut: no harm in keeping I hope Jonny and Youcef will come as well	[13:04]
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xavi	ok, I'll do my best to be there 15 and 16th, then. Nowadays, I kind-of-know the state of the art of the AulaWiki mod (revised already the patch by pingus, and the (stopped?) work on svn from the guys in Madrid...)	[13:13]
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xavi	the Mod is back working on Tiki 2.x, afaik (only issues with the theme style, from today onwards, afaik, after my last patch this morning) my "problem" is that it took me 5 hours to find & fix the bug for the Mod to work (and install from the admin mods interface). the remaining bug, I mean (pingus did the previous good job, luckily) oh, well, there seems to be another error yet... :-( sylvieg , can I ask you for advice? I'm attempting to debug workspaces, and nowadays I find some error sometimes, not always that's the error I'm finding in some ofmy tests: http://pastebin.com/m16a67617 duplicate entry 1 for key 1, at insert into `tiki_categorized_objects` (`catObjectId`) values ('1') however, if I start with a blank new tiki, I can create workspaces with no problem. Several workspaces If I remove the workspaces mod, and install it again, and try to create a single workspace, this error occurs.	[13:14]
lphuberdeau1	I just hate that table... completely useless	[13:28]
xavi	lphuberdeau1: tiki_categorized_objects , you mean?	[13:29]
lphuberdeau1	yes well, required by the code, but it serves no purpose	[13:29]
xavi	ah, ok	[13:30]
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xavi	sylvieg , another quick advice request: how can I force that after publishing a mod on a tiki site (a .tgz) is generated, this file is chmodded to 644 ? (some servers like edu.tw.o (ourorpject.org) and possibly mods.tikiwiki.org set those files to 600) I identified the line in tiki20svn , modslib.php, around line 513, I guess	[14:03]
sylvieg	I know absolutely nothing about mods... I hate mods	[14:05]
xavi	oups.... ok, but do you know how to force a file to be chmoded to 644 in php? I can test the mods part...	[14:05]
sylvieg	chmod http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.chmod.php	[14:05]
xavi	ok, thanks	[14:07]
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xavi	thanks, sylvieg, it worked. I'll commit it	[14:17]
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CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r16263 10/branches/2.0/lib/mods/modslib.php: [ENH]Force chmod to 644 the published .tgz seems needed on some servers tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r16264 10/trunk/lib/mods/modslib.php: [ENH]Force chmod to 644 the published .tgz, since it seems needed on some servers	[14:23]
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xavi	luciash, you can report anything related to the theme style on aulawiki mod here: http://edu.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=ToDo the version which I left on http://edu.tikiwiki.org/mods server works fine on a new install, at least. See (if needed: http://edu.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=AulaWiki ) uff, back to grading students... cheers bye marclaporte (I closed the other tab too early)	[15:28]
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marclaporte	l8er!	[15:32]
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Simmi1	I have just hasd an alert from Olaf that the www.tikiwiki.org site has been hijacked. Anyone else getting the site of XP2?	[16:08]
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Simmi	I have tried accessing to the site via two countries.. So, is there a security issue on www.tikiwiki.org?	[16:12]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16265 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] New interface to manage quicktags (non-functional at this time)	[16:15]
amette	apache is misconfigured and presents the default host (xp2.de) when using http://www.tikiwiki.org	[16:20]
Simmi	Thanks for the info Amette.	[16:21]
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SEWilco2	Hmm. XP/2 <> XP^2 for most values of X and P. X = P = 0 ?	[16:29]
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lphuberdeau	why would it? do you see ^ as exponent or binary xor?	[16:36]
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lphuberdeau	XP/2 === XP>>1	[16:38]
SEWilco2	Exponent. The logo has a little, raised, 2. My trunk test site has DB error on nonexistent table. SELECT `group` FROM tiki_group_watches WHERE object = ? AND type = ? AND event = ?	[16:38]
lphuberdeau	(for integer values of X and P ;)) run DB update	[16:39]
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CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16266 10/trunk/ (lib/categories/categlib.php styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css): [ENH] Removed hard coded line break and added span.categpath (defined as display:block) in transition 2 to 3 css	[16:55]
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lq_106	Hi, I wonder if I could get help from someone with a dev problem I have in TW? I want to create an extra area for modules to be placed in, is that posible? tips? link?	[16:57]
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lq_106	I want to create an extra area for modules to be placed in, is that posible?	[17:01]
SEWilco2	Define "extra area".	[17:05]
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CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16267 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Removed hard coded line breaks before p.editdate contents (wiki_authors_style) and increased padding-top in most themes and transistion CSS	[17:10]
lq_106	Right now you can ad modules to the left or to the right, I want to be able to asign modules to the top	[17:24]
marclaporte	you can put modules in wiki pages	[17:25]
lq_106	ok but then I would have to ad that module to every wiki page there is? I want the module to be there at all time	[17:25]
marclaporte	which module?	[17:26]
lq_106	I will create one of my own but it's a login module If you're loged out the login module should be there at the top on every page	[17:27]
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marclaporte	In site identity, you can activate login (I think)	[17:31]
user_corrupt	howdy folks	[17:31]
lq_106	I know how to activate the module and put it to the left och right but the problem is that I want it at the top	[17:34]
marclaporte	lq_106: : there is a seperate feature "Site Identity" http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Site+Identity	[17:35]
SEWilco2	Do you want it to be a module, or just a link to the login page?	[17:36]
lq_106	I want it to me a module checking the link...	[17:37]
marclaporte	http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Home -> look at the top	[17:38]
lq_106	looks close to what I want is that done with site identity?	[17:39]
marclaporte	no oups yes	[17:40]
lq_106	hehe, ok :)	[17:41]
marclaporte	http://pastebin.com/m19124318 -> here is code from http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Home in version 3.0, there is a checkbox option in admin panel to have top login box	[17:41]
lq_106	ok, nice :D	[17:42]
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user_corrupt	does anyone know how to add custom fields to the "create new page" function in Tiki? I want to add a mandatory field for longitude and also latitide...and Id like to put them in a table associated with that page also	[17:51]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16268 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Completed quicktags administration	[17:52]
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CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16269 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp/ (25 files in 12 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16252 to 16267	[17:56]
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marclaporte	user_corrupt: page tracker feature, aka pretty tracker	[18:00]
user_corrupt	thank you sir, i will look into that	[18:00]
marclaporte	user_corrupt: : your description reminds me of google maps plugin where it's possible to assign map data to a wiki page and then, via backlinks, you can have many dots on a google map, which correspond to wiki pages	[18:00]
lphuberdeau	any status update from chibaguy on ui-revamp? as far as I am concerned, it's ready to merge	[18:01]
user_corrupt	whoa, they will correspond?	[18:02]
marclaporte	chibaguy has some menu stuff to commit soon	[18:02]
user_corrupt	i thought id have to build that myself	[18:02]
marclaporte	any day now user_corrupt: please describe your goal and I will point you the best I can	[18:02]
user_corrupt	my goal is to have a google map above my wiki, and every new page that users make will require geocode info, so that a marker will be associated with that page... then the marker will serach for that page+lat+long when clicked	[18:03]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: can you warn on devel one day at least before you merge to check how many features are broken ?	[18:04]
marclaporte	user_corrupt: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mod%20gmap&redirectpage=Google%20page%20map%20plugin	[18:04]
user_corrupt	thanks	[18:05]
lphuberdeau	I wish gary wasn't a full 12 hours ahead of us	[18:05]
marclaporte	sylvieg: : page tracker starts in 3.0 ?	[18:07]
SEWilco2	Hold on, I think I can make him be 12 hours behind of us.	[18:09]
marclaporte	hahahah	[18:09]
lphuberdeau	oh no, japan is well ahead	[18:09]
sylvieg	yes thik so	[18:09]
SEWilco2	Looks like that whole rotation of the Earth thing might be awkward to fix. I can fix it, but I'll need a large budget to ship enough bricks to Italy. No, I'll instead get paid for it. I'll start selling Chinese-decorated bricks. Move enough bricks east and the rotation will go to the west.	[18:11]
lphuberdeau	that would need to be enough bricks to have a weight relevant to the mass of the earth	[18:16]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16270 10/trunk/ (tiki-editpage.php tiki-index.php): [ENH] Moved saved_msg "flag" from $_REQUEST to $_SESSION to avoid people linking to &saved_msg=y version of the page	[18:17]
marclaporte	user_corrupt: for other meta data on wiki pages: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Page+tracker	[18:28]
user_corrupt	thanks	[18:29]
CIA-49	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16271 10/trunk/templates/module.tpl: [MOD]module: use button	[18:29]
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user_corrupt	(noob) how do I begin using the page tracker plugin? I'm looking for somewhere to download a module...i feel kinda lost	[19:15]
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SEWilco2	user_corrupt: I'm not familiar with it, but what do you want the page tracker plugin to do?	[20:21]
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rlpowell	Wiki caching isn't working for me. :( I've turned it on, but there's no refresh button and nothing says "cached". Help?	[22:56]
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rlpowell	Nobody knows? ;'(	[23:25]
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