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[00:06] <cellvia> hi, what charset is best for tikiwiki,   utf8_unicode_ci   or utf8_general_ci    ?
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[00:27] <marclaporte> cellvia: good question, when you find out, can you update the tiki docs?
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[01:23] <chrisdone> is it possible to have pretty urls with tikiwiki? e.g. foo.com/wiki/Blah instead of foo.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Blah
[01:23] <chrisdone> I checked the documentation and the plugin docs and browsed the forums but it didn't turn up anything that I could see
[01:23] <chrisdone> is it actually possible?
[01:28] <chrisdone> I don't just mean doing the rewrite with Apache, I mean so that tiki internally generates the desired format for links
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[02:02] <marclaporte> polom
[02:02] <marclaporte> chrisdone: : yes, look in experimental feature section
[02:03] <marclaporte> sylvieg: : nice to see you looking at TRIM
[02:09] <chrisdone> marclaporte: oh, sweet. cheers
[02:11] <marclaporte> you need to rename the file _htaccess to .htaccess
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[02:35] <marclaporte> chrisdone: : and when you hit problems, remember to deactivate before spending too much time trying to figure out what's wrong
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[03:05] <chrisdone> marclaporte: roger
[03:06] <marclaporte> it is being improved for version 3.0 and may be promoted out of experimental
[03:06] <chrisdone> very sweet
[03:21] <rlpowell> I give up.  How do I enable a plugin?
[03:21] <lphuberdeau1> magic > content > plugin
[03:22] <lphuberdeau1> might also need to enable other features that the plugin depends on, but that's not usually an issue
[03:22] <rlpowell> "magic"?
[03:23] <lphuberdeau1> that big menu at the top
[03:23] <rlpowell> I turned that off; it's obnoxious.  Is there another way to get to it?
[03:23] <lphuberdeau1> no
[03:24] <rlpowell> ...
[03:24] <rlpowell> OK, so we're moving to the magic menu whether we want to or not.  Good to know.  :)
[03:24] <lphuberdeau1> not really
[03:25] <lphuberdeau1> well, not anymore... I think
[03:25] <rlpowell> Huh?
[03:26] <lphuberdeau1> it started good, but not really maintained by anyone anymore
[03:27] <rlpowell> But there are things in it that can't be gotten to any other way?  That's ungood.
[03:28] <rlpowell> Not that I have time to help.  :(
[03:30] <lphuberdeau1> that can be fixed quickly by someone attending the issue ;)
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[09:45] <chibaguy> ui-revamp idea: implement 'breadcrumbs' (currently a not-very-much-used option with limited value) across all features' page tops (as an option still).
[09:46] <chibaguy> The trail would be site index > feature home > [path specific for feature]
[09:47] <chibaguy> For example, something like: site index > blog list > current blog > blog post  -- (last item isn't a link, and maybe is redundant since post title is already displayed).
[09:48] <chibaguy> Or: site index > forum list > current forum > post
[09:48] <chibaguy> With wiki pages if the page is in a structure, the structure path would be used, like
[09:49] <chibaguy> site index > wiki home > structure home > [path to current structure page].
[09:49] <chibaguy> If this breadcrumbs implementation is used across the site, then it makes sense, in contrast to the current implementation.
[09:51] <chibaguy> Currently, some Tiki features have a trail like this, in some cases just a "list blogs" link. But it should be more complete and global.
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[11:17] <chibaguy> http://instone.org/files/KEI-Breadcrumbs-IAS.pdf, for more on breadcrumbs.
[11:31] <chibaguy> "The First Element usually represents the site home page.  Depending on the type of breadcrumb, the second and third  elements can be subcategories or selections the user has  made to get to the current page. The Last Element usually  represents the name of the current page; sometimes this is  (erroneously) a link to the current page"
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[11:35] <TheDayAfter> Hello from germany
[11:35] <TheDayAfter> anyone here?
[11:36] <TheDayAfter> i need help with TW version 3.0 b0
[11:38] <TheDayAfter> hello is there anyboda outthere like pink Floyd The Wall?
[11:40] <chibaguy> TheDayAfter, what's the problem?
[11:41] <TheDayAfter> i have install the tw 3.0 via svn and all install work, but i can't edit wiki pages as admin, i become a white screen with Firefox version 2.x
[11:41] * chibaguy likes The Wall ok, but likes Ummagumma better.
[11:41] <TheDayAfter> Ummagumma is one of the best LP be carefull withe the axe....
[11:42] <TheDayAfter> sorry my english is bed
[11:42] <TheDayAfter> bad
[11:42] <chibaguy> It's good enough. :-)
[11:42] <TheDayAfter> thanks
[11:43] <chibaguy> How much php memory does your server have? TikiWiki needs maybe 32MB.
[11:43] <TheDayAfter> ummagumma is the best LP, TW is the best Wiki...
[11:43] <chibaguy> White page usually means not enough script execution memory.
[11:44] <TheDayAfter> i have set in php.ini the memory to 128 MB
[11:44] <TheDayAfter> but wait it is the use memory, not the execution let me show what shit i do
[11:44] <chibaguy> hmm.
[11:45] <TheDayAfter> where to set the execution???
[11:46] <TheDayAfter> sorry i find the part
[11:46] <TheDayAfter> it is 30 in seconds
[11:47] <TheDayAfter> it is not enougth?
[11:47] <chibaguy> ok
[11:47] <TheDayAfter> how many seconds i need?
[11:47] <TheDayAfter> it is my local mashine
[11:47] <TheDayAfter> i can do anything
[11:48] <chibaguy> "memory_limit" in apache/bin/php.ini
[11:48] <chibaguy> I believe
[11:48] <TheDayAfter> in /etc.... ???
[11:48] <TheDayAfter> i work with ubuntu, sorry Debian for beginners
[11:49] <chibaguy> I don't know much about Linux. Wherever apache is, as far as I know.
[11:49] <TheDayAfter> i think i am there in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[11:49] <chibaguy> sounds right.
[11:50] <TheDayAfter> i will set the execution to 120...
[11:50] <chibaguy> Interesting that the path is different for me (WAMP server on my laptop).
[11:51] <chibaguy> What is "memory_limit" set to?
[11:51] <TheDayAfter> 128 MB
[11:51] <TheDayAfter> no result blank page
[11:51] <chibaguy> must be something else, then.
[11:52] <TheDayAfter> is it a firefox 2.x proble, a TW Bug or a permission problem?
[11:52] <chibaguy> Can you get other pages (not tikiwiki) with this server?
[11:52] <TheDayAfter> I have set all permissions in TW 3.0 on yes to admin
[11:52] <TheDayAfter> why there in TW3 no group editors???
[11:53] <TheDayAfter> yes all sites are work but i can't edit wiki pages
[11:53] <chibaguy> There are none by default, but you can make them.
[11:53] <TheDayAfter> no edit and no new sit edit, allways a blank page in ff
[11:54] <TheDayAfter> in 2.2 we have a group editors, why not in 3.0?
[11:54] <TheDayAfter> i am as admin member of admin-group and regstered-group
[11:54] <chibaguy> Are you using categories for your wiki pages?
[11:55] <TheDayAfter> yes i have able this feature in the admin panel
[11:56] <TheDayAfter> in global featueres but i reset this one, wait one moment...
[11:57] <TheDayAfter> this is not the solution, it not work with edit....
[11:57] <chibaguy> There is a new permission "tiki_p_edit_categorized" that may need to be added for editing groups.
[11:57] <chibaguy> I don't know which version of Tikiwiki this was added in.
[11:58] <TheDayAfter> When i click the ICON on the top, nothing change, when i click the Icon EDIT in the footer i become a white screen
[11:58] <chibaguy> Also "tiki_p_view_categorized". These apply to categorized objects.
[11:58] <TheDayAfter> bu i have no editing group, i wondered about this missing group?
[11:59] <TheDayAfter> I have give the admin all rights in groups....
[11:59] <chibaguy> Is your Tikiwiki installation a fresh installation, or an upgraded Tikiwiki 2 site?
[11:59] <TheDayAfter> i have in Group-Admin 178 rights...
[12:00] <TheDayAfter> it is a fresh install from the SVN
[12:00] <TheDayAfter> i copy the source from my homefolder to /var/www/tiki30 and run the install.sh
[12:00] <chibaguy> At my test site, admin has only "tiki_p_admin" and seems to cover everything.
[12:01] <TheDayAfter> after this i make a DB with phpmyadmin, and the install work with any problems
[12:01] <chibaguy> (regarding admin perms)
[12:02] <TheDayAfter> yes that i seel also, i wondiring about this, so i set all permissions to the admin group
[12:02] <chibaguy> Hmm, I haven't installed trunk for a while. I'm installing from experimental/ui-revamp. So I'm not sure if trunk has any installation problems at the moment.
[12:03] <TheDayAfter> OK i will test a fresh install with my Linux-Admin tomorrow in the company
[12:03] <chibaguy> Another guy did report a problem with installing trunk a while back. I don't know if this was solved.
[12:03] <TheDayAfter> we will test the version 3.0 for our consumers....
[12:04] <chibaguy> Try experimental branch/ ui-revamp if you have time and space also.
[12:04] <chibaguy> (and want to play around a bit)
[12:04] <TheDayAfter> yes i will test and report any problems
[12:04] <chibaguy> Anyway, I know it is installing ok.
[12:05] <chibaguy> Also you can check at http://ui.tikiwiki.org , though this isn't updated to current svn.
[12:05] <chibaguy> yet.
[12:05] <TheDayAfter> i will bring up the TW in germany to one of the best Wiki, we will earn money with the TW and will give back mony to the developers
[12:05] <chibaguy> Yay!
[12:05] <chibaguy> ;-)
[12:06] <chibaguy> Try this channel again later in the day, weekdays, and there will probably be more people active, if you have questions or problems.
[12:08] <TheDayAfter> thanks
[12:09] <TheDayAfter> i think we need a tikiFest in germany, in berlin??? this is a nice town and a nice place to meet....
[12:09] <chibaguy> good idea
[12:10] <TheDayAfter> and we need a better german support for TW, we want to spend time and power for  a better german support
[12:10] <chibaguy> Do you visit http://de.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php ?
[12:11] <TheDayAfter> at monday we work on the translation to day it is 75%, we think on fryday we have 100%!!!
[12:11] <chibaguy> great!
[12:12] <TheDayAfter> yes i know, but it is not very well actuality
[12:12] <TheDayAfter> this is a one man show, sorry, nothing against the admin, but this is not to bring TW on the Top 10 in germany
[12:14] <chibaguy> I see.
[12:14] <TheDayAfter> we have the power of two good admins and memebrs of our company are very good in english-germ,an translation, greek and hebreisch
[12:14] <TheDayAfter> the language spoken in israel
[12:15] <TheDayAfter> i mwish you a nice day, see you later, thanks for your help, thank you very much
[12:15] <chibaguy> Sure, thank you too, and good luck.
[12:16] <TheDayAfter> from germany the best whishes of a freedom place and understanging people from differents coutrys
[12:17] <TheDayAfter> from germany good bye
[12:23] <chibaguy> good bye
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[17:24] <CIA-53> tikiwiki: 03billsos * r16306 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mwtable.php: version 1.1 - correction to parsing of html attributes in $data, added handling for html attributes for <caption> and <col> elements.
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[18:19] <CIA-53> tikiwiki: 03billsos * r16307 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mwtable.php: version 1.2 - corrected setting of default wiki classes.
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[18:26] <billf> I finally got most of the bugs out of my mwtable plugin, got it in trunk and finished a doc page.  Any comments on plugin or doc gratefully accepted as I am new to all this.
[18:27] <billf> !help
[18:27] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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