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[01:39] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [01:45] *** nkoth3 has quit IRC () [01:49] *** idle-_ has joined #tikiwiki [01:50] *** idle- has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [01:52] <marclaporte> polom [01:53] <marclaporte> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Staging_and_Approval is ready to be tested [01:55] *** jbwarnken has joined #tikiwiki [01:55] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [01:55] <jbwarnken> i have a questions about setting the file size in the file gallery [01:55] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile [01:55] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile [01:56] <jbwarnken> is there a way to increase the file size larger than 8 megs [01:57] <jbwarnken> how do I increase the file size [01:57] <jbwarnken> how do I change the file size and is there a limit [02:03] *** jbwarnken has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [02:13] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [02:13] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [02:45] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [02:49] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [02:50] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) 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[10:07] <Elan> hi luciash [11:27] *** Elan has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [11:42] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [11:49] <CIA-53> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16378 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp/templates/module.tpl: [FIX] Clearing needed by IE7 when module contains suckerfish menu. [11:54] *** danopia has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [12:25] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [12:47] <ricks99> @Elan (if you come back): see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/RSS+Admin [12:48] <ricks99> @jbwarnken (if you come back): see FAQ: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=8#q27 [13:38] <cnd> anyone know if I can have menus inside menus? I want a dynamic topbar (so more stuff "appears" depending on the group of the person when they log in) [13:48] *** chibaguy2 has joined #tikiwiki [13:49] <chibaguy2> cnd, menus can't contain menus. But menu items can be displayed according to user group, so will become visible to the user when logged in. [13:49] <chibaguy2> c [13:49] <chibaguy2> Check the menu docs. [13:50] *** chibaguy has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [13:52] <chibaguy2> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=menus&bl=y [13:52] <chibaguy2> There's a "group" filter for each menu item. [13:53] *** stix_ has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [13:54] *** stix_ has joined #tikiwiki [14:32] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [14:50] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [15:32] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [15:34] <SEWilco2> cnd: I have a horizontal menu bar at top of http://www.theredbulls.org/ with items based on permissions. [15:35] <SEWilco2> cnd: There are items in the menu which you can't see as an anonymous user because you're not a member of the Group which can see them. [15:35] <SEWilco2> cnd: There also is one Level 0 menu which simply doesn't appear because you don't have permission for it. [15:36] <SEWilco2> cnd: It's all handled in the menu permissions, I only set the permissions and it behaved that way. [15:37] <SEWilco2> cnd: So other menus should behave similarly. [15:37] <SEWilco2> s/other menus/other menu types/ [15:37] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [15:53] *** chibaguy2 has left [16:07] <sylvieg> svn up [16:07] <sylvieg> oops [16:16] <ricks99> q: using phplayer menus, i have my menu in the right column. how can i make the sub menus appear to the *left* instead of the right (they are flying off the screen)? [16:33] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [16:44] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [17:14] *** marclaporte has quit IRC ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") [17:14] <sylvieg> ricks99: the best is to download the doc of phplayersmenu site and to see if it is possible - otherwise use css/suckerfish menu [17:18] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [17:27] *** CIA-53 has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [17:39] *** CIA-49 has joined #TikiWiki [17:52] <ricks99> tx sylvieg [18:05] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [18:11] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [18:14] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16389 10/trunk/categorize_list.php: [18:14] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: [FIX]categ: more fix from 15261: list categs must only show the [18:14] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: p_view_categories. Some categories like stagging categories must be only be [18:14] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: viewed by an admin as they need to be synchronised with other actions like [18:14] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: rename... But the page can be still edit/view by user [18:21] *** Tiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki [18:21] *** Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC ("Caarrie") [18:21] <ricks99> q: anyone working on/have ideas about noifications for banners (e.g., when they exprire, when # of clicks, etc?) [18:21] *** Tiki|bot is now known as Tikiwiki|bot [18:21] *** TheDayAfter has joined #tikiwiki [18:22] <TheDayAfter> Hello from germany [18:23] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r16390 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] Better display [18:32] <TheDayAfter> hello [18:33] <ricks99> hello [18:33] <TheDayAfter> nice that one is online [18:34] <TheDayAfter> are devolopers online? [18:34] <ricks99> probabaly [18:34] <TheDayAfter> i have a question about the language files... [18:34] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile [18:34] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile [18:35] <TheDayAfter> We work in my company on the translation for germany... [18:36] <TheDayAfter> It is possible to strukture the file in sections... 1. translation for the general translation, the sections for module, like tracker, blog etc... [18:37] <ricks99> probably. i don't think that the order of items in the the language php file matters. [18:38] <ricks99> but, don't you think that A-B-C order would be better? This way you can easily find duplicates. [18:38] <ricks99> it would make it easy to see if terms (or similar terms) were already translated [18:39] <ricks99> especially considering that most terms appear in more than one "section" [18:42] <TheDayAfter> yes used in more then one section we found many items [18:42] <TheDayAfter> But when we translate the file we often need the kontext of use... [18:43] <TheDayAfter> So we translate and must look to the part of the tw where it was used [18:44] <ricks99> hm... wondering how tw handles a translation that appears more than once in the language php file... ? [18:44] <TheDayAfter> we want to consult the tw in germany. [18:44] <ricks99> how does tiki know the proper context if you have 2 (or more) possible translations? [18:44] <TheDayAfter> thats the great question... [18:45] <TheDayAfter> it is a good solution to have one file, but it is a way to go to make a file in any section it will be used? [18:46] <ricks99> need to check.. but i think the *last* entry wins if there are multple translations [18:46] <TheDayAfter> thats mor work for the translation, but we can control the Frontend better... [18:47] <TheDayAfter> an other solution was the way to create a mod to have a frontend page to translate the file [18:47] <ricks99> u know abou the db translation option, right? u can do translations through the GUI [18:47] <sylvieg> need some dev for the context - look in devel list - where there was a very good plan to do it - need volunteer to do it [18:47] <ricks99> instead of editing the file [18:47] <TheDayAfter> Then also costumer can make changes on it, so we must extract the file copy it to the computer of the translater, he has no known about linux and apache... [18:48] <TheDayAfter> i have see this solution in other software [18:48] <TheDayAfter> wher is the gui?? i am stupid? [18:49] <TheDayAfter> sorry my english is not the best, but i hope you understand me [18:49] <ricks99> see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Translating%20Tiki%20interface [18:50] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [18:50] <ricks99> no problem. your english is better than my german :) [18:50] <TheDayAfter> ok i will read the link, thanks [18:50] <ricks99> and http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Interactive%20Translation&redirectpage=Interactive%20Translation%20of%20Tiki%20Interface to translate "in context" [18:51] <TheDayAfter> I will read this document and think about, then i give a comment. [18:51] <TheDayAfter> at icks99 LOL [18:51] <TheDayAfter> i am under my table [18:52] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [18:53] <TheDayAfter> the potential of tw is great, we hope to help the community in germany [18:53] <TheDayAfter> we have solved the problem with german Umlauts, with a dirty hack, but i will work in 2.0 and 2.2 and 3.0 Beta 0 and Beta1 [18:54] * marclaporte hears Germany and thinks of amette & ohertel, [18:54] <TheDayAfter> an other problem is, and this is very importand, the seperator of dezimal numubers in the tw [18:55] <sylvieg> what about a smarty postfilter to chjange the decimal [18:56] <TheDayAfter> the problem is the tracker, when we work with a computed field, it is not possible to work wit comma [18:56] <TheDayAfter> with... [18:57] <sylvieg> you can write a smarty postfilter - it will work [18:57] <TheDayAfter> So i think we need in General an Option to change the work with numbers, in europe we work with , for dezimal and . point for thousend delimeter [18:58] <TheDayAfter> sorry what is a postfilter? [18:59] <TheDayAfter> i am not a developer, at this time, but i think i must go to be one [18:59] <sylvieg> http://smarty.net/manual/en/advanced.features.outputfilters.php [18:59] *** navster has quit IRC () [19:00] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [19:00] <TheDayAfter> ok i will read this link, but is it possible to internationalitaion this problem, we have a great community in spain, frensh... [19:01] <sylvieg> you can hire a dev if you really want that - otherwise pray somebody else ned it [19:02] <TheDayAfter> an in germany we will have a great community when we can find new costumer, they will spend money for solutions for her problems [19:02] <sylvieg> ok so wait for a customer... [19:03] <TheDayAfter> we will spend money to solve the problem, we will live in our company with solutions for companys in germany they will work with TW [19:05] <TheDayAfter> we dont must wait we have prospective costumer with more then 80 personnel [19:05] <sylvieg> good - so you are ready to invest - wonderful [19:05] <TheDayAfter> we talk about 10.000 Euro for one solution [19:06] <TheDayAfter> we must paid our own charge... and then [19:06] <TheDayAfter> yes we will invest [19:06] <TheDayAfter> an we will make a tw fest in germany [19:07] *** navster has quit IRC () [19:11] <TheDayAfter> it is late in germany i have a hard week i will go to bed, nice time to all [19:12] <TheDayAfter> thank you for your tips and links... [19:12] <TheDayAfter> Gute Nacht [19:15] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [19:15] *** TheDayAfter has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [19:29] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16391 10/trunk/tiki-admin.php: [MOD]admin: also have a feedback for prefs other than checkbox [19:35] *** danopia has joined #tikiwiki [19:37] <marclaporte> sylvieg: : thank you!!! [19:38] *** navster has quit IRC () [19:39] <sylvieg> hope it will work in each case --- I have some doubt on the multi valued prefs but seems to work [19:46] <marclaporte> is {$debug} supposed to work in v3? [19:47] <sylvieg> no because .... dammit I do not remember [19:47] <sylvieg> I tried to fix it but I do not remember also what it is supposed to do.. [20:00] *** ricks99 has quit IRC ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") [20:03] <marclaporte> hehe [20:03] <marclaporte> it is a popup with all the names of the variables [20:03] <marclaporte> {$pref.debug} maybe? [20:07] <sylvieg> if it is the smarty function you are looking for it is {debug} in a tpl [20:08] <sylvieg> I am thinking about the feature debug_console [20:44] <SEWilco2> I think debug_console defines a variable and a class which lets debug code emit messages for display in the console. [20:45] <SEWilco2> I haven't used it enough to have memorized the debug output command; I wrap each message in a test for the debug variable, whatever its name is. [21:06] <cnd> chibaguy2 / SEWilco2 - Thanks! I was approaching with the wrong paradigm in mind. [21:06] <SEWilco2> Ah, here it is.. [21:07] <SEWilco2> if(defined($debugger)) $debugger->msg("Logged in, status " . $status); [21:08] <SEWilco2> cnd: It's possible I'm also using the wrong paradigm. debug_console is not well documented, but I found one use of $debugger->msg(). [21:09] <SEWilco2> And if someone is on the floor laughing at what I'm doing, we can expect to hear from them when they recover in a few minutes. [21:10] <SEWilco2> This also works: $debugger->var_dump('$children'); [21:56] <SEWilco2> I'm working on image EXIF data. Is there a format parsing function which can help substitute a format string such as "$Desc (by $Author)"? [22:04] * SEWilco2 looks for Smarty-to-string function. [22:43] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [22:44] *** FrankP_german has quit IRC ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") [22:48] *** franck has quit IRC () [23:04] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [23:08] <cnd> Can the default session length be extended? We were training a class of 40 teachers on using Tikiwiki yesterday, and due to us explaining things - almost everyone experienced a "lost edit" from expired sessions. All these teachers will themselves be training more people this same way - so nipping this in the bud is a good idea. [23:09] <cnd> (yes - "remember me" is an option - almost nobody picks it tho... remember - this is a classroom with shared PCs - so they all (rightfully) assumed that's not the right option to select...) [23:10] <cnd> Hmm - would this be a PHP "feature" rather than a wiki one maybe ? [23:16] <cnd> Hmm - I wonder if this was it (php.ini) [23:16] <cnd> session.gc_maxlifetime = 1440 [23:16] <cnd> Says that's 24 minutes tho... which *seems* more than what we experienced. [23:19] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16392 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] allow more file extension not to be rewrite -> need to find another solution [23:21] *** claireducky has joined #tikiwiki [23:22] <cnd> reminds me - pages with '&' and '/' in their titles mess up the rewrite stuff on apache2 [23:25] <cnd> "GET /Test+%2F+Slash&saved_msg=y HTTP/1.1" 404 [23:27] <claireducky> hello [23:28] <claireducky> I don't know if anybody can help me or not, I have been using TW for a while on my own site, but a site I am a member of is wanting to switch away from SMF [23:28] <claireducky> and I am trying to help them figure out if there is a way to migrate from SMF to TW easily [23:28] <claireducky> I couldn't find much of anything in the docs [23:33] <claireducky> erm hello? [23:36] <sylvieg> smf as simple machines forum? [23:36] <claireducky> yes, sorry [23:37] <sylvieg> do they have export feature? [23:38] <claireducky> I am not an admin at the site considering switching, so I have no idea [23:38] <claireducky> never used SMF as an admin before [23:38] <SEWilco2> claireducky: See if the SMF documentation is online. [23:38] <sylvieg> we have some csv import but not for all features [23:38] <claireducky> searching now [23:39] *** Amorphous has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [23:40] <sylvieg> we have a couple of wiki, tracker, user importers in a csv format or xml format [23:40] <sylvieg> but if you have no export in this format... [23:40] <claireducky> I saw that, and the users list can be put into csv [23:40] <claireducky> the main thing they are concerned with is the forum posts [23:41] <claireducky> it is a very active site with a few thousand members, there are about 3 years of posts on the boards [23:43] <sylvieg> we have a forum import - I never use it [23:43] <sylvieg> we have a xml wiki page importer - and as forum post = wiki comment - it must be easy to adapt [23:44] <claireducky> ok [23:44] <claireducky> I don't need the specifics at the moment, just trying to help them figure out if it is feasible or not for them to convert [23:44] <claireducky> I love my TW, and they wanted to go to myBB until I recommended TW instead [23:46] <sylvieg> there is nothing out of the box with forum but if you have a xml form of the forums should not be a big deal to adapt the wiki xmp importer [23:46] <sylvieg> s/xmp/xml [23:47] <claireducky> is that something I would post on the script request board when we are ready [23:47] <claireducky> I am not confident enough in my skills to adapt it myself [23:49] <sylvieg> I will go for the devel mailing list for more response - and there is a list of consultants to hire [23:49] <claireducky> oh excellent [23:51] <sylvieg> now you have to find out how you can export the data fromSMF [23:52] <claireducky> i am reading the SMF forums [23:52] <claireducky> it appears you can export the database somehow [23:52] <claireducky> they have a few bridging tools for other CMS platforms [23:52] <sylvieg> (we have no forum exporter in tw yet) [23:53] <sylvieg> yeh but the database it will be hard because you have to know the structure that is not semntic [23:55] *** Amorphous has joined #tikiwiki [23:55] <sylvieg> kerrnel22 began the forum importer from a database - I never look at it - perhaps you can contact him directly or ask what is this feature - perhaps it is only a trunn feature [23:56] <claireducky> Yeah I saw that post I think [23:56] <claireducky> well, I appreciate your help sylvieg [23:56] <claireducky> I need to run for now, but I will stop back in with more questions another time, I'm sure [23:56] <sylvieg> :-) [23:57] <claireducky> thanks! 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