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   SF_19: If I give tiki_p_admin_categories to anonymous in the approved group permissions, anonymous can now view but not edit.  Whick is what I was after.
   <br> I seems like that should give more access than I wanted, but it doesn't seem to
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   chibaguy: Is it possible to add events to the calendar via email?
   <br> I don't see any docs on that, or config options, so it seems not.
   <br> Another topic: at themes.tw.o (using 2.2), I can't add TikiFest event to Feb 28, though I could add it to Feb 27 and March 1. Page just refreshes and Feb 28 is empty again.
   <br> Enforced Tiki holiday? ;-)
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   chupacabra: upon start of install.php the page goes blank.   what could cause this?
   chibaguy: chupacabra, blank pages usually mean not enough php memory.
   chupacabra: thanks
   <br> hmm 32 megs should do.
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   chibaguy: yes, should.
   <br> Anyone know if there is a way to uninstall a profile (http://profiles.tikiwiki.org)? I just see "forget previous install", which seems to be something different.
   luciash: polom polom
   chibaguy: hey luciash
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   luciash: hi gary
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: got my reply ?
   chibaguy: yes, I'll talk to my son about that (he's 13).
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: kewl
   chibaguy: Will they use snail mail or email?
   luciash: i think the teacher said they should start with snailmail
   <br> :)
   chibaguy: oh, classic. ;-)
   <br> more personal that way, with handwriting and stamps, etc. :-)
   luciash: imho it's better idea too, it's more personal
   <br> exactly :)
   chibaguy: :-)
   <br> I have to reboot here. My file manager isn't working right. Will be back soon.
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   Elan: Hi all can ne one guide on how to create workspace ??????
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   Elan: Hi all can ne one guide on how to create workspace ??????
   <br> not able to integrate alutiki with tiki 2.2 coz of that not able to work on mods
   <br> can ne one help
   <br> ??????????
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   chibaguy: Elan, maybe contact xavi, here or personal message at tikiwiki.org. He knows the most about workspaces and Tiki 2.2.
   <br> (I think)
   Elan: thanks Chibaguy
   <br> n know wat mini chat was way too hand thanks for the idea
   <br> *handy
   chibaguy: :-)
   Elan: ANd Chi bagguy can tell how to create multiple channels in minmi chat
   <br> so that when i have multiple forum
   <br> i can use furum specific channel
   <br> ?
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   chibaguy: Elan, sorry, I don't know. I only used #default.
   <br> I didn't see the way to make a new channel.
   Elan: ok no prob chibaguy thanks for the try and do u have ne doc for smart codes
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   amette: might it be that there is some bug considering the permissions with tiki_p_edit_structure ? I double-checked, but only admin can add pages to structures.
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   Elan: hi am getting a compatability issue with different browsers menus and nods are getting dis oriented in IE can ne one help
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   dthacker: polom
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   olento: hey
   <br> I'm trying to customize breadcrumbs for my theme and am somewhat lost :)
   <br> http://www.zibkna.org/onnenwiki.png
   <br> there's a shot of dummy html page I'm aiming for
   <br> graphically loosely based on the mozilla support's theme
   luciash: hi olento, looks nice
   <br> polom dthacker
   olento: thank you
   <br> what I'm trying to do exactly, is changing breadcrumbs into a list
   <br> I assume that's something I need to do by hacking the code
   <br> I tried to grep a bit, but I quickly decided that it'd be quicker to just ask :)
   chibaguy: olento, there's a lib/breadcrumblib.php
   -: chibaguy beat luciash this time ;-)
   olento: :)
   <br> I'll take a look
   chibaguy: Actually the current breadcrumbs needs an overhaul, as it's very limited.
   <br> I wrote this, thinking about improving them -- http://zukakakina.com/Breadcrumbs_ideas -- but don't have the php skills for it. :-(
   olento: yeah, I ran into some talk about them in logs
   chibaguy: What kind of a list do you mean?
   <br> (for the breadcrumbs)
   luciash: heh
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: my fault, i wasn'ลง paying attention to my irc screen all the time ;)
   olento: when I did the layout, I structured them as html list... &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; etc.
   <br> something I use a lot... nice to style in css
   <br> and I use :before for separating characters
   luciash: <u>olento</u>: hmm, but isn't breadcrumb just showing path of one branch of a tree list ? i'm not sure ul is best from the semantics point of view
   chibaguy: I think the breadcrumbslib.php is a little complicated because it also has code for the pagetitle (I guess at one time it was possible to use the breadcrumbs in place of the page title).
   <br> Or maybe still.
   olento: <u>luciash</u>: you might have a point there
   chibaguy: But I think the main trouble with Tiki's breadcrumbs is that they are so limited, on wik pages, only site index &gt; current page IIRC.
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: maybe not, it was kind of weird to have &lt;h1&gt; in the breadcrumb
   olento: <u>chibaguy</u>: yeah, I noticed that too while googling
   chibaguy: My Breadcrumbs_ideas page is about broadening the scope to include all features.
   olento: I guess they've originally designed for structures
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   chibaguy: Actually I think breadcrumbs came before structures FWIW.
   olento: structures give you a full trail though
   <br> our wiki will probably be quite heavily relying on categories
   luciash: <u>olento</u>: btw, you can join #tikiwiki-fi too ;)
   olento: splendid :)
   -: luciash notices lot of new ppl from suomi finland recently :)
   luciash: well, lot, two in last two days :D
   olento: heh, that's nice
   <br> I've been playing around with tikiwiki for a few days now... we've been running mediawiki for a couple of years for technical crew and now we need something that manages groups, since we're opening the wiki for whole house
   <br> if you're finnish it shouldn't be hard to figure out the company...
   <br> bummers, my day at work is coming full
   -: luciash guesses nokia while being no finnish
   olento: nah, I don't get paid that well :)
   luciash: *g*
   olento: http://www.tuuri.fi/
   luciash: but the other guy talked something about nokia yesterday in da channel ;)
   olento: yeah, I know that Nokia is quite agile in using wikis etc.
   <br> bbl
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   cnd: Are there any tricks to upgrading 2.2 to 3.0?  I just tried renaming the apache folders, but 3.0 refuses to write to my ./db folder - and doesn't produce any errors obvious on the web page nor in the logs... if I copy over the old local.php - I get an "upgrade" button - but pushing it wrecks my wiki DB  (relax - I'm on a VM and can "revert").
   <br> I'm on SuSE 11.1
   <br> ("wrecks" = damages my menus, and no longer accepts logins at all)
   CIA-51: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r16463 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_forum.tpl: [FIX] view forum: remove duplicated breadcrumb and respect line breaks in forum desc.
   cnd: Sorry - please ignore me.  I'd messed with my php.ini post_max_size and simply broken apache2's ability to read incomng POST data.  Duoh.
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   alino: hi ..its possible create all users in tikiwiki from LDAP?
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   CIA-51: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16464 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: [FIX]button: when changing the auto_query_args, need also to change params: Ex: url: tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1, the 'tracker item list' button must know trackerId
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   fran_lopez: hi, is someone there?
   <br> i have a small question
   <br> i'm new to tiki wiki
   <br> been using it for a while
   <br> i'm really liking it
   <br> i just have a problem
   CIA-51: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16465 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] Shadowbox property correction
   fran_lopez: i need to embed youtube videos into some wikipages
   <br> i've been looking the forums, found some discussions about it
   <br> but can't make sense out of them
   <br> i know it must be something really simple, what i'm missing
   sylvieg: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginYouTube&amp;structure=Documentation
   luciash: <u>fran_lopez</u>: use YOUTUBE wiki plugin
   fran_lopez: thanks, that's what i was missing
   <br> how do i install the plugin?
   luciash: <u>fran_lopez</u>: should be in
   fran_lopez: oh, ok
   luciash: see wiki help while editing a page
   fran_lopez: wow, it was really simpler than what i was expecting
   luciash: :)
   fran_lopez: now the thing is, i'm putting the site up for some other people to use and the would get scared away with coding
   <br> wysiwyg editor works fine for text
   <br> and it also has a way to put flash content onto the pages
   luciash: you can admin the quicktags to put the plugin around the copypasted youtube video URL
   fran_lopez: is there something similar for the youtube plugin?
   luciash: no such wysiwyg way afaik
   <br> you can create as many quicktags as you want to help them out to avoid the manual writing of the syntax though
   <br> i know, they can be scared by seeing it, but at least something ;)
   fran_lopez: ok, so i'll look into quicktags
   <br> thank you very much, you solved my problems in lees than 5 minuts
   luciash: maybe you can create some icons in the wysiwyg editor too, sorry, i don't know, i'm not experienced with it
   <br> np
   fran_lopez: it's ok
   <br> i'll figure it out
   <br> i'll go on work wiht that now
   <br> thanks, really
   <br> bye
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   CIA-51: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16466 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] Oops, wrong version of shadowbox.js included
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   snarlydwarf: did you guys see this: http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/the-policy-wiki-a-social-experiment/
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   CobraElDiablo: hello all
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   CIA-51: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16467 10/trunk/styles/lite/lite.css: [FIX] Removing debug border-color defs
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