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cnd | tiki 2.2 bugs - the "tiki parsed" checkbox in creating new trackers doesn't work (un-checks after you click "save") - and - the "Description" for tracker fields doesn't save either (everything typed in is lost when you click "save")
Same with the "error message" box, as far as I can tell too. | [04:11] |
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SEWilco2 | cnd: It is a shame that the setup tool is requiring mb_internal_encoding(), particularly if many PHP configurations don't include it.
cnd: You should file a bug report on dev.tikiwiki.org. | [04:42] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16483 10/trunk/templates/ (4 files): [FIX] No reason for div.heading to also be .button; caused cursor to change to pointer on non-clickable area. | [06:05] |
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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16484 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [FIX] hr is redundant when adjacent divs have borders. | [06:37] | |
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16485 10/trunk/templates/ (5 files): [FIX] button class should be used for objects intended to be buttons, not divs containing them. | [06:42] | |
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cnd | Hello any project admins on here! I've requested "commit access" (my SF username is "vradd") - and I beleive an "IRC Ceremony" takes place? :-)
I would like to start with some simple/easy updates to 3.0b0 trunk. Can someone let me know if you think this is a good idea? | [07:16] |
mib_ei4rdu | Hi cnd. | [07:18] |
cnd | Specifically - the installation "setup.sh" bash script for 3.0b0 includes only a few distros - I've made modifications so that it detects the actual apache user/group and uses that for the default if it's not a know distro (and I added SuSE as a know distro too) | [07:18] |
mib_ei4rdu | er, this is gary/chibaguy apparently in disguise. Just a minute please. | [07:18] |
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cnd | FYI - I've got about 7 copies of TW running now - mostly 2.2, with a few 3.0b0's - most in vmware, some on "bare metal".
1 is a live site (our school) - the others are testing versions of it. | [07:19] |
chibaguy | cnd, if you are ready, we can conduct the initiation ceremony. | [07:21] |
cnd | Sounds exciting :-d | [07:21] |
chibaguy | Well, usually there are cheering throngs, but this is the slow part of the day. ;-) | [07:22] |
cnd | LOL. I'm in Australia - so I'm used to not having other people awake when I'm working on stuff :-) | [07:22] |
chibaguy | chibaguy dons ceremonial robe and hat...
First of all, have you read the three rules and promise to abide by them? (http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=3Rules) | [07:23] |
cnd | I have - and I do. I am subscribed to all the lists as well already. | [07:25] |
chibaguy | Good. And the second question is what is your Sourceforge username? | [07:26] |
cnd | vradd
(slightly obscure - "cnd" was taken, and VRADD is the 1st SF project I developed myself) (VRADD = Very Rapid Application Design and Development) | [07:26] |
chibaguy | OK, you have been added as a member of the TikiWiki project and...
... ...given Subversion and CVS access. Congratulations! chibaguy doffs sacred garments and lifts a beer. | [07:29] |
cnd | * cnd, on his knees, nods solemnly | [07:31] |
chibaguy | You may rise.
:-) | [07:32] |
cnd | Thanks. Cheers!! | [07:32] |
chibaguy | Probably you don't need to bother with CVS. Only legacy code is there. | [07:32] |
cnd | How does my setup.sh update sound to you? Not sure why SuSE is accomodated in the v2.2 update, but is missing from the v3.0 one - but the mods I propose put SuSE back, and technically accomodate every other linux too. | [07:33] |
chibaguy | Heh, I'm not the guy to ask about that. :-)
You could ask on the dev list. or here when there're more Linux people. | [07:33] |
cnd | Ahh - OK - well; I 'spose this is the kind of stuff I'm an expert at - so I'll go run it past teh dev list folks, and if they're happy, go ahead and I'll keep a close eye on things after. | [07:36] |
chibaguy | RIght. In general it's good to check if anyone has been working on files where you want to make changes, to coordinate with them or whatever. | [07:36] |
cnd | Do you run Trunk yourself? | [07:38] |
chibaguy | Yes, I have an installation on my laptop and at a hosted server.
Also experimental branch ui-revamp. | [07:39] |
cnd | So - did you have to recompile PHP yourself to make it work? I'm puzzled by the mb_internal_encoding() still. | [07:40] |
chibaguy | Nope. Everything worked out of the box.
Hosted domains are at hostrocket.com. Local installs use the Reactor Server WAMP package. | [07:40] |
cnd | I hate it when I can't understand stuff - mb_internal_encoding() is aparently a non-default option, requiring a custom PHP recompile. It's certainly not included in my stock OpenSUSE 11.1 (most recent version) release.
Do you have the WYSIWYG editor working on yours? | [07:41] |
chibaguy | Yep. | [07:42] |
cnd | Do you know if hostrocket is linux or windows ? | [07:42] |
chibaguy | chibaguy feels a bit sheepish for having it all working.
linux PHP 5.2.5 | [07:42] |
cnd | Hmmm. I might go ask some questions on the dev list I think. Odd how I'm having problems, but aparently the majority are not. | [07:44] |
chibaguy | I don't see anything special on my server's cpanel PHP config page. | [07:45] |
cnd | Yeah - leave it with me. WAMP is a great clue! I'll hunt down whatever's not right in my SuSE setup, and figure out whats the best way to handle it for any other future SuSE users (and ReHat for that matter - I use both). | [07:47] |
chibaguy | I've got values for mbstring.internal_encoding in my phpinfo, but have no idea if that's related. | [07:50] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16486 10/trunk/templates/ (41 files):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Since many td's (on admin pages) were found to have class="button", I tikiwiki: figured I shouldn't delete the class but instead changed the class to tikiwiki: "input_submit_container" to be more descriptive and differentiate from clickable tikiwiki: objects that have class="button". | [08:51] |
chibaguy | Re ^^^ commit, there's no td class="button" in the trunk stylesheets, or other reason for them to have that class, as far as I can tell. | [08:57] |
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luciash | hi chibaguy, i wonder why not to have <input class="button" type="submit" ... /> though
err, <input class="button submit" type="submit" ... /> does it mean "input_submit_container" will not contain anything else ? e.g. reset input ? | [09:14] |
chibaguy | I don't know what the intention of td class="button" was, but every one contained input[type=submit] and nothing else IIRC. | [09:19] |
luciash | maybe better would be simply "input" instead of "input_submit_container" | [09:19] |
chibaguy | Heh, maybe so. | [09:19] |
luciash | i believe the intention was to contain the input submit button and having possibility to higlight all the td on hover
but you're right the "button" is misleading name for the class | [09:20] |
chibaguy | It seems so, maybe in some themes, but I didn't find a css file that had the property. | [09:21] |
luciash | i would use: [<td class="input">|<div class="input">]...<input class="button submit" type="submit" ... /><input class="button reset" type="reset" ... />...
as it doesn't have to be every time in div or td with class specified so we have consistent look for all button class with possibility to differentiate submit, text, checkbox, reset and other inputs | [09:24] |
chibaguy | Sounds good. | [09:28] |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16487 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [ENH] Tab and .tabcontent styling, etc. | [09:28] |
chibaguy | I got into the class=button thing while looking at admin pages in Darkroom.
I've been wanting to do something about Darkroom's tabs, since they jumped around when one is hovered over, and had odd colors left over from somewhere. One little dilemma with tabs: when page is narrow, they wrap, so a question is: is it better to have the backrow's tab bottoms aligned with top of tabcontent (and front, wrapping tabs down into tabcontent).... ...or the front-row tab bottoms aligned with top of tabcontent and the backrow hovering up above the tabcontent, so to speak. I thought it was better not to have any tabs hovering (not touching tabcontent background color or top border, etc.) so made a negative margin and extra padding to let the tabs overlap down into tabcontent at times. It's a compromise, though, so still don't know what's the best way. | [09:31] |
luciash | chibaguy: i'm not sure i understand... actually... i *don't* understand :)
what is backrow ? | [09:46] |
chibaguy | By backrow, I mean when the tabs wrap, these are the tabs in the top row, before the wrap.
(They can look like they're in back if the second row of tabs (after line end) overlap them to some degree.) | [09:49] |
luciash | ah | [09:50] |
chibaguy | Sorry about confusing terms. | [09:50] |
luciash | ok, now i understand
well, it's hard to achieve with xhtml+css i'm not sure it's bullet-proof at all situations to have them overlap the tab content but i understand having them "hovering" one line up looks ugly too | [09:50] |
chibaguy | I added padding to the top of tabcontent to prevent tabs from overlapping actual content, which seems to work ok. | [09:55] |
luciash | one solution which could work but would need js involved into the action would be having left and right arrow to scroll the tabs horizontally when they don't fit in narrow space (like firefox does with tabs by default)
ah, fine | [09:56] |
chibaguy | Time to eat here. Will be back later. | [09:58] |
luciash | another solution would be relative positioning but that would need some fixed height space reserved for the tabs anyway
k, enjoy your meal :) | [09:58] |
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sylvieg | chibaguy: around? | [14:05] |
Caarrie | .seen chibaguy | [14:06] |
Tikiwiki|bot | Caarrie, chibaguy is right here! | [14:06] |
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luciash | is away ;) | [14:11] |
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ricks99 | anyone: is the 3d tag browser on doc.tw.o broken? i
get java exceptions on tiki-browse_freetags.php | [14:47] |
chibaguy | Hi sylvieg. Sorry, wasn't watching. | [14:54] |
sylvieg | you changed in darkroom: form.admin fieldset { border:0} and now admin->look is not very readable
so do you other place the change was needed - :-) | [14:55] |
chibaguy | Well, form.admin fieldset was what I wanted to change. I thought there were too many box borders. | [15:00] |
sylvieg | but now a page like admin->look->general is ... not organized
so must it be another layout or a specific css rule? | [15:00] |
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chibaguy | OK. Actually I was looking at Admin > Features when making changes. I'll try to improve so admin look is better. | [15:02] |
sylvieg | Hard also to read now admin->features in no tab | [15:03] |
chibaguy | I see. I'll have another try. Sorry for the trouble. | [15:06] |
sylvieg | do not be sorry...
thx | [15:06] |
chibaguy | ok :-) | [15:08] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16488 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (181 files in 32 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16362 to 16487 | [15:21] |
luciash | sylvieg: you mean when tabs are off ? | [15:23] |
sylvieg | when no tabs is checked in admin->feature | [15:24] |
luciash | yes, and l&f is not very readable too | [15:24] |
chibaguy | One goal I had there was to reduce the number of box borders, since there were also background colors.
But I was looking at a simple case (admin features with tabs on) so need to look again at a longer page, etc. | [15:27] |
luciash | hm, i don't see different background color there
but i believe you'll figure that out :) should i backport changes to thenews.css to 2.2 ? the bottom border line fix | [15:28] |
chibaguy | I'm not sure what the policy is about changes in 2.2. | [15:32] |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16489 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX]theme: at least to be able to change theme: TODO use the new style | [15:35] |
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luciash | chibaguy: i guess fixes are ok but i'm not sure if there is any bugfixes release planned | [15:49] |
chibaguy | right. | [15:53] |
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cnd | Dunno how relevant this is - but IE6 does borders and padding differently to all other browsers. It's, what, maybe 20% of all web users I'd guesstimate? Most of the tiki CSS I've seen in IE6 is all messed up...
The worst example is actually the tiki home page itself - it says "IikiWiki" - because the top of everything's all chopped off :-) | [16:14] |
chibaguy | cnd, with the current theme, TheNews? | [16:16] |
cnd | Not sure - I wrote my own theme for my site, and I use any others (besides seeing whatever the tw.o sites are using when I'm on those of course)
Not sure - I wrote my own theme for my site, and I DONT use any others (besides seeing whatever the tw.o sites are using when I'm on those of course) | [16:17] |
chibaguy | I'll check when I have ie6 up again (it's on a computer I don't usually have on).
I check the themes in IE6, but sometimes site configs might make a difference. | [16:19] |
cnd | Might be worth researching how many people still use IE6 tho? - no point fixing it if I've guesstimated wrongly... | [16:19] |
chibaguy | Your figure is pretty close, I think.
Last time I saw stats it was 20-something %. December IE-7: 26.1%, IE8: 19.6%, Chrome: 3.6%, FF: 44.4%, Safari: 2.7%, Opera: 2.4% at http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Oh, typo: that's IE6, not IE8. :-) | [16:20] |
luciash | i have IE6 here | [16:25] |
cnd | Rats. 19.6% is still significant. | [16:25] |
chibaguy | luciash, how does tw.o look? | [16:25] |
luciash | so i can test
just a moment, i'll launch it it looks pretty nice almost perfect | [16:25] |
chibaguy | In the past, I noticed some pages at tw.o were really bad in IE6, like list-forums, which stretches really wide for some reason.
Yay. | [16:29] |
luciash | only the yellow folders have grey background artifact because of the unsupported alpha transparency
forums look nice there too | [16:30] |
ricks99 | yeah! rick finally got 3.x svn to install and work (using wamp instead of easyphp). :) | [16:32] |
luciash | heh, congrats :) | [16:33] |
cnd | grumble. spent all this time trying to remember my browsercam login. no luck. grrrrrr. | [16:33] |
ricks99 | what is the giant red ( ? )/Search button for? clicking it gives me "advance search help" | [16:33] |
cnd | What were some of the easyphp problems you had ?
(I've got a 3.x install that's hobbling badly along... need some clues) | [16:33] |
ricks99 | on my easyphp, i got blank screens (as though the INCLUDES weren't working properly
(though 2.x works fine) | [16:34] |
luciash | ricks99: it's unfinished i guess... appears as help for search | [16:35] |
ricks99 | ahh... different than the small blue ( ? ) in the search bar? | [16:37] |
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chibaguy | ricks99, what happens when you click the small blue ?mark ? | [16:40] |
absentia | hi guys (gals) -- my tiki says that it can't log into the db -- I haven't touched my tiki in about 3 years... and I forgot how to restart the mysql, etc... what's the standard way? I think I have a fairly old tikiwiki installed. | [16:40] |
luciash | linux ? | [16:42] |
absentia | ya, sorry.. old redhat .. linux... | [16:42] |
luciash | ricks99: actually i hate it's not optional | [16:42] |
cnd | service mysqld restart
service httpd restart | [16:43] |
luciash | try "service mysqld start" as root or /etc/init.d/mysqld start | [16:43] |
chibaguy | luciash, it's going to be optional soon, I believe. | [16:43] |
absentia | absentia looks
unrecognized service. strange, ok, in /etc/init.d I had an old.mysql and a mysql ... so ./mysql stop; ps aux | egrep -i mysql; ./mysql start .. and now it's working. thanks! | [16:43] |
Olento | I'm running ubuntu server on virtualbox.. so far the easiest developement platform I've tried
originally I installed it just to use linux emacs, which is much easier to set up than windows versions | [16:47] |
ricks99 | @chibaguy: clicking both seems to give the same help | [16:50] |
chibaguy | OK, just checking. Same behavior as I have. I wasn't sure if it was changed. | [16:58] |
ricks99 | is that correct, though? im not sure i "get it" | [17:01] |
chibaguy | Do you mean the search syntax, or the way the help is displayed? | [17:02] |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r16490 10/trunk/templates/tiki-register.tpl: [MOD]moved location of the generate pw option, so not to interfere with tab sequence for pw entry and pw verification | [17:02] |
ricks99 | why are there 2 buttons that do the same thing?
and the red button seems to appear only for admin? | [17:02] |
chibaguy | It's using the edit help icon, but will be changed so the big red icon doesn't display initially, but I guess comes out with the help text when the small icon is clicked.
Something like that. | [17:04] |
ricks99 | think i see now.. the red help/search icon is a "global" help? it will display the help for whever screen (i.e., the wiki help, plugin help)
this is "end-user" help -- not tiki admin help, right? | [17:06] |
chibaguy | Yep, but it's a little too global (as in size) for my taste. | [17:06] |
ricks99 | my $0.02.. i hate the icon, size and placement. maybe just me.... | [17:07] |
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Jyhem | ricks99: everybody hates the icon. The coder is just not good at making icons, and would be delighted if it was replaced | [17:14] |
ricks99 | whats wrong with the regular ( ? ) icon? | [17:15] |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16491 10/trunk/templates/tiki-tests_menubar.tpl: [FIX] typo | [17:19] |
ricks99 | is there a discussion page on dev.tw.o for thisnew global help feature? | [17:26] |
chibaguy | I don't see one. | [17:37] |
Caarrie | !sleep chibaguy | [17:37] |
chibaguy | :-) Good idea, Caarrie. | [17:38] |
Caarrie | :) | [17:38] |
chibaguy | g'night all. | [17:38] |
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jonnyb | hi all - anyone got time to give a hand with the theme admin thing? It seems quite broken for me on trunk now (Sylvie: are you using the switch theme module? As i have found issues with that page and module combination as the module appears to override the site_style (i have a fix locally - part finished)) | [18:07] |
sylvieg | I fixed this morning the swith in admin_.look .. I think I fixed it - I have no problem with the module
(except that the style taht is displayed is not the good one- but no time for that) | [18:09] |
jonnyb | except that means it breaks the style_option, because it's showing the wrong options, and if you reload the page (to display the new theme), then change the option it doesn't save it | [18:11] |
sylvieg | sorry I did not check to much the option - was just trying to fix the style | [18:12] |
jonnyb | are you sure we want to set the site_style when you change the menu? not when you submit? and if you change the style more than once it shows the previous style, which seems really confusing to me | [18:13] |
sylvieg | ... I think we need to reload the page when cahging the style ... it will be more easier to do and maintain... | [18:13] |
jonnyb | it used to | [18:13] |
sylvieg | the onsubmit is not me ? I chjanged the minimum
I do not like the onsubmit too.... I think the best is to delete the onsubmit and header(location: the_page) when style has been changed | [18:14] |
jonnyb | but REQUEST["site_style"] is set when the menu is changed (but REQUEST["looksetup"] not) so that the options menu can show the options for the right style - won't people be "surprised" to find the whole site's theme has changed and they haven't clicked "apply"? | [18:16] |
sylvieg | It is not me who introduced that - I fix the minimun - do whatever you want | [18:17] |
jonnyb | maybe a new button, next to site_style saying "get options" would be cleaner? | [18:17] |
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sylvieg | ah it is you that introduced the onsubmit.... not a good idea
why you do not collect all the stttyle_option and change the dropdown when the style changes | [18:19] |
jonnyb | why not? as long as it doesn't affect anything in the database (i thought) | [18:20] |
Jyhem | ricks99: I think it was the fact that it's already used elsewhere | [18:21] |
sylvieg | in any case the note too should be fixed - but sorry no time today for that | [18:21] |
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ricks99 | @jhyem: isn't ( ? ) the unversal help button? ok to use in other places,as long as function is the same (that is, show help) | [18:22] |
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Jyhem | ricks99: Sept is gone, I can't ask him why he put this one there now... I just know he failed at finding a nice one. | [18:44] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16492 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/jquery/ (jquery.js jquery.lite.js jquery.min.js jquery.pack.js): [NEW] New version (1.3.1) of JQuery libs (no problems detected so far) | [19:49] |
mycomputer | In the features of Administration, there's the option reset : what does it do exactly ? when I try, nothings happens | [19:49] |
SEWilco2 | mycomputer: Which administrations page has the reset option of which you speak? | [19:52] |
mycomputer | the administration page features
Ok. I found it : it's was to simple :) | [19:52] |
SEWilco2 | There are many administrative pages. What URL?
Resolved? OK. | [19:54] |
mycomputer | yes, thank you for your help | [19:54] |
SEWilco2 | Shucks, t'warnt nothing. | [19:54] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16493 10/branches/experimental/jquery/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [FIX] JQuery pref toggle replaced (merge casualty)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16494 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/setup/prefs.php: [ENH] Added JQuery pref to setup/prefs (default=y for testing, also set javascript_enabled=y as default) | [20:00] |
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r16495 10/trunk/lib/newsletters/nllib.php: [FIX] newsletters: fix the request in order to be able to change the 'Validate email addresses' setting (bug 2207 - thx knollbert) | [20:17] | |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16496 10/branches/experimental/jquery/templates/header.tpl:
tikiwiki: [ENH] Fixed Shadowbox use with JQuery (look, no mootools) tikiwiki: Also added admin error fail-safe case when neither present | [20:25] |
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dups01 | I'm having a problem with my tikiwiki - when a user tries to save page edits we're getting HTTP 404 not found errors
The address bar indicates that the PHP file is being left out of the redirect when it's trying to show the save confirmation The change gets committed to the database but the user is still presented with a 404 error as if it isn't working | [20:44] |
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dups01 | Anybody have any suggestions? | [20:47] |
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Ah, just found it and putting it here for any potential IRC logs - Check the Search Engine Friendly URLS is OFF! Thanks all! | [21:16] | |
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ricks99 | @dups01: if SEFURL is on, you must use the correct htaccess file
see docs for details | [21:18] |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r16497 10/trunk/tiki-install.php: [UI]better looking pages to match the rest of tiki, better messages to help new tiki admins | [21:19] |
cnd | Actaully - this problem seems only to happen when there's a "/" or "." or "&" in the name of the page. I also notice that there's no "?" in front of the edit paramaters (coz the "?page=" stuff got stripped)... could do with some work to tidy this bit up I think. | [21:33] |
sylvieg | there are no rewrite rules in the devel version | [21:45] |
sorry s/no/new | [21:54] | |
CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16498 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: notice | [21:54] |
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CIA-51 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16499 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: notice | [22:19] |
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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16500 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX]sefurl: tracker image was not going through(seems a file without extension is not considered a regular file(-s) | [22:59] | |
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