#tikiwiki 2009-02-05,Thu

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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16559 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: [ENH] padding and background image for menu options	[00:29]
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Bacta	Hello, can someone help me with the mediawiki import?	[00:41]
marclaporte	Bacta: where are you stuck?	[00:45]
Bacta	When I goto tiki-import_mwdump.php I just get a white screen no form, nothing	[00:47]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16561 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: [ENH] slightly better look of horiz PLM	[01:22]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16562 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: tikiwiki: [MOD] In the diff, changing color of characters that are different but added tikiwiki: from red to blue. It could be something else to attract users attention but red tikiwiki: conveys that this text has been deleted, when in fact, it's added. Please share tikiwiki: how you feel about this.	[02:43]
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brandi	Hi. Links on my wiki sometimes break without explanation when adding an image or similar to a page... ...often the link will look fine on the page and sometimes also look fine in the "edit link" window but clicking the link gets you a 404. anyone know what could be causing this type of results?	[03:48]
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SEWilco2	brandi: Those are links on Wiki pages, blog, or web directory pages? And which version of TikiWiki?	[04:10]
brandi	Wiki pages.... checking the version..	[04:11]
SEWilco2	brandi: Does your browser show the destination of the URL (maybe at the bottom of the browser) before clicking?	[04:12]
brandi	SEWilco2: It does.	[04:12]
SEWilco2	brandi: Are those links to external sites or within your site?	[04:13]
brandi	http://wiki.bitengine.ca/tiki-index.php internal to the site it's the management topics link that is one of them anyway.	[04:13]
SEWilco2	brandi: Oh, so your site is sometimes failing to respond.	[04:14]
brandi	well. it seems to be the link... hence the 404. If I re-do that link, everything is fine basically if I edit the link and select a target for it again.	[04:14]
SEWilco2	Has the site seemed to be slower than it used to be? Are these large images which you're adding?	[04:16]
brandi	nope. :\| not really. they're pretty small.	[04:16]
SEWilco2	http://wiki.bitengine.ca/Management%20Topics That is 404.	[04:17]
brandi	right.	[04:17]
SEWilco2	Notice the URL has the name, but does not have tiki-index.php.	[04:17]
brandi	ah. ha. why is that?	[04:18]
SEWilco2	Did you turn on SEFURL without installing the .htaccess file?	[04:18]
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brandi	don't think so. what is that? :)	[04:18]
SEWilco2	The URL should include tiki-index.php, like the other URLs do. To get rid of tiki-index.php you have to turn on the still-being-developed SEFURL (Search Engine Friendly URL) feature.	[04:19]
brandi	wondering why it would be doing that. issue is that the link initially works but breaks when some changes are made to the page. it can even happen when a new link is added -- was just told about that. I see.	[04:19]
SEWilco2	But turning on SEFURL requires you to first install .htaccess on a web server which obeys "rewrite rules".	[04:20]
brandi	okay. so I don;t think that's the issue but the info does help. since we're not using SEFURL.	[04:20]
SEWilco2	Is your web server a single machine, or are there several machines sharing the load?	[04:20]
brandi	it's actually a shared/ hosted machine.. ..once we get this done and get everyone's buy-in, it will go to a proper production environment. ...which might be a single or load balanced set-up. unfortunately I have to run now. Thanks very much for all your help, SEWilco2!	[04:21]
SEWilco2	Rewrite the link. Probably http://wiki.bitengine.ca/tiki-index.php?page=Management+Topics	[04:22]
brandi	that works. it's just this particular link.	[04:22]
SEWilco2	brandi: Maybe .htaccess is installed but only some web servers obey it.	[04:22]
brandi	It 's all on one server though. I'll continue looking into this and maybe post some mroe info or a solution on the forums in case someone else has similar troubles. thanks again!	[04:23]
SEWilco2	OK, good luck.	[04:23]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r16563 10/trunk/lib/core/ (25 files in 8 dirs): tikiwiki: - all PHPUnit tests now inherit from TikiTestCase (added to deal with global variables) tikiwiki: - some changes to GoogleTranslateWrapper and its test	[04:35]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16564 10/mods/trunk/themes/eatlon/styles/eatlon.css: [FIX] Make modules wide in wikitext. Style td.event in event module.	[06:59]
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Rock	how can i have the limited set of theme? Actually so many themes are available in tikiwiki, i want some good looking theme only, can any one tell me, how to get the limited amount of themes? is there anybody?	[07:55]
chibaguy	Hi Rock	[07:56]
Rock	hi Chibaguy	[07:57]
chibaguy	You can go to http://themes.tikiwiki.org and click on download links under theme thumbnails.	[07:57]
Rock	how to import this themes to my tikiwiki2.2	[07:57]
chibaguy	On front page or on http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=new_themes ... Is this what you mean?	[07:57]
Rock	i have download the some themes, i want to get this themes in my themes, is means where do i have place the all files?	[07:59]
chibaguy	http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=How+To+Add+a+New+Theme Basically, the theme's template file folder goes in <tiki_root>/templates/styles/, and the stylesheet and image go in <tiki_root>/styles/	[08:00]
Rock	Ok, then how to remove the some unwanted themes, shall i delete unwanted themes or any more?	[08:02]
chibaguy	If you delete the .css file, the theme won't be listed anymore. You can delete the .css file and any images (<tiki_root>/styles/<unwanted_theme_images_directory>) and any templates (<tiki_root>/templates/styles/<unwanted_theme_template_directory>).	[08:04]
Rock	will it create any problem for other themes	[08:06]
chibaguy	Some themes use styles/lite/lite.css, so this should stay at the site.	[08:07]
Rock	actually what happend? previously i was using the darkroom themes, after i deleted 8 to 10 unwanted themes, now i am using darkroom themes, leftmenu and right menu are not showing properly it is going down of the main page... leftmenu and right menu are not showing not properly it is going down of the main page... do you have any idea about this? did you get my point	[08:11]
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Rock	now i am restoring the unwanted deleted themes, left and right menu showing properly......	[08:14]
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chibaguy	The side menus should display even if other themes are deleted. The only exception is that styles/lite/ should not be deleted. Darkroom uses it for layout. As do some other themes.	[08:15]
Rock	ok let me check	[08:17]
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chibaguy	Also try clearing your caches (tiki-admin_system.php) if things are strange.	[08:22]
Rock	Chibaguy, i was trying the abse, now also i am geting the same issues.. left and right menu are going down. what is problem, do you have any idea about this?	[08:32]
chibaguy	abse also uses styles/lite/lite.css. Can you check if that file is there or not?	[08:34]
Rock	Yes, tyles/lite/lite.css is missing...	[08:36]
chibaguy	You need to restore it then.	[08:37]
Rock	now i included that and it is displaying properly...thank you	[08:37]
chibaguy	ok good :-)	[08:38]
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luciash	hi	[09:22]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16565 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Make mod-quick_edit input[type=text] width more flexible and controlled by CSS.	[09:35]
luciash	chibaguy: do you know the quick edit input width can be controlled by module parameter too ?	[09:42]
chibaguy	Well, I saw that in the module file. Does css override inline input size? What I wanted was for the input to be wide for normal side columns, but narrower when the side column is narrow, in thenews.	[09:52]
luciash	it overrides (especially with !important)	[09:59]
chibaguy	Hmm, I guess the .php and .tpl changes weren't needed, then. :-\|	[09:59]
luciash	i understand	[09:59]
	i wonder when you were editing the tpl you didn't add a class because [type=text] selector is not supported in IE6 (true, the changes weren't needed)	[10:04]
chibaguy	chibaguy must remember ie6....	[10:08]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r16566 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 16565	[10:10]
luciash	heh, revamp2	[10:20]
chibaguy	hmm, no colesce.css coelesce.css no pagecontrols files, I think. seems to be a lot like trunk	[10:22]
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R\|SK	Anyone awake?	[10:39]
luciash	yup	[10:52]
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R\|SK	Is there anyway I can disable the annoying hint dialog, when I try to leave a site, that I#m currently editing? (without having it saved)	[11:27]
luciash	it's useful when you edit a page to cancel the editing first so you don't block editing the page for other users	[11:36]
R\|SK	I see, but as I'm currently experimenting with tiki, it's really annoying Btw, why everytime I'm typing E-Mail in a wiki text it is always treated like a link? I mean the word "E-Mail"	[11:37]
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chibaguy	R\|SK, I can't find any admin config switch to disable the lose-edit warning. Tiki features are supposed to be optional, so no switch here must be a bug.	[12:19]
R\|SK	Ok, looks like I have to live with it. Thanks for your assistance.	[12:20]
chibaguy	(Similarly, I don't know how to turn off the "saved by" message that gets displayed on a page after an edit/save. This one bothers me.)	[12:20]
R\|SK	Indeed.	[12:20]
chibaguy	But I'll file a bug report. I think these should be config options.	[12:20]
R\|SK	It should only moan when saving failed ;)	[12:20]
chibaguy	:-)	[12:21]
R\|SK	You don't have an answesr to my second question? Do you?	[12:21]
Rock	05 i want to create 2 Groups, this Two groups are enterly different Menu,calender, prvillage and whatever, Now one user belongs to both group, he is getting both menu,calender are mixed view, can anyone help get the solution?	[12:22]
chibaguy	About E-Mail always appearing as a link? No, never noticed that before.	[12:23]
R\|SK	Maybe it's a mistake in my config?	[12:23]
Rock	otherwise can make link for different project, while click particular link of project bytime coresponding menu should display, is it possiable?	[12:24]
luciash	E-Mail is considered WikiWord "camelcase" auto-converted to link of that page name check your Admin > Wiki and disable WikiWords	[12:24]
chibaguy	Ah, good catch, luciash.	[12:25]
R\|SK	Ah, that may be the problem. I'll check on it.	[12:25]
luciash	:)	[12:25]
chibaguy	I was going to say E-Mail is not a link at my site, but I don't use CamelCase.	[12:25]
R\|SK	Luciash: That did it! Many thanks!	[12:27]
Rock	can you to myside plz?	[12:28]
chibaguy	Rock, a user in both groups will naturally see both groups' objects.	[12:28]
luciash	for that user i guess you'd need to create special group and assign menu module to it the group can include the other two groups i guess	[12:28]
Rock	that particular user belongs to both groups in the sense they can able to see both menu in single home page	[12:29]
luciash	i'm not sure if the module will consider this but give it a try maybe	[12:29]
Rock	i don't want to see the both groups information in the single page, ex: if you consisder the Forum, user(belongs to 2 groups) they can able to see both groups forums, is it correct? i don't want see like this? if i m click the first groups link by that time only i should see coresponding groups message. is it possiable	[12:32]
chibaguy	What should this user see? Which group's menu?	[12:33]
luciash	i guess so, try to make that group and inherit these two groups and assign only this new group to the user he'll get perms of these inherited groups	[12:34]
Rock	Chibaguy , i am giving 2 link in my home page, if i am clicking 1st one, i can able to see all menu calender in 1st group, same thing for 2 link also luciash, i have follow the inherit groups only, actually i have 2 common groups, if any new groups will come i will inhert from common groups,	[12:36]
luciash	sorry, i don't understand	[12:39]
Rock	it is kind of work spaces for particular groups,	[12:39]
luciash	what are the groups ? names	[12:39]
Rock	PM and Users	[12:40]
luciash	ok, for that particular use create group called e.g. Special and inherit PM and Users in it assign Special group to that user, create module viewable only by Special group with custom menu you need or whatever gotta run now, bbl	[12:41]
Rock	ok, thanks for your information, i will check and let you know	[12:43]
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ricks99	hi all :)	[13:15]
chibaguy	hi ricks99	[13:17]
luciash	yo ricks99	[13:17]
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chibaguy	ricks99, there was a question/complaint earlier about the "lose-edit" warning. What do you think about it being a config option? (recall 3 rules.)	[13:21]
luciash	+1 but i would do it this way: popup a message warning with tickbox saying: "Do not show me this message again"	[13:21]
ricks99	like that idea q: with no magic for 3.x, is there any thought to some simple fixes to the admin pages (such as removing tables, moving checkboxes to the left, etc.) that would make the screens look better?	[13:22]
chibaguy	would be a good idea. anyone know how to turn off "wiki page must have a category"?	[13:27]
luciash	ricks99: yup, there is :)	[13:27]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r16567 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] add line to .htaccess to fix morcego wiki3d browser	[13:29]
ricks99	and the thought is... @chibabugy: wiki config	[13:32]
luciash	ricks99: the thought is it is on my todo list :)	[13:32]
ricks99	cool	[13:33]
	should i commit some of my ideas to head, or post to dev.tw.o for discussion first?	[13:41]
luciash	replacing tables and simplification is always welcome as far as the functionality is preserved discussion never hurts if you're in the mood of discssing it first ;)	[13:46]
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chibaguy	ricks99, thanks, I thought so, but can't find it.	[13:49]
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luciash	chibaguy: "Wiki Page Staging and Approval" ?	[13:52]
chibaguy	Ah, I got it -- the clearly worded: "Force and limit categorization to within subtree of: None" :-)	[13:52]
luciash	tiki-admin_categories.php is broken layout in thenews theme must be some improperly closed tag there ah :)	[13:53]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r16568 10/trunk/lib/wiki3d/ (26 files): [DEL] removing old version of morcego to update it	[13:55]
luciash	chibaguy: don't you mind the tiny corner arrows i added for options in menu for thenews.css ?	[13:55]
chibaguy	No, they're cool.	[13:56]
luciash	chibaguy: first i only wanted to make better alignment with the folders text ;) then i decided to put the arrows in the padded background	[13:56]
chibaguy	I'll check on admin categories. It's broken in darkroom too.	[13:56]
luciash	cool :)	[13:56]
chibaguy	Probably in all the *litecss themes.	[13:56]
luciash	yes most probably	[13:56]
ricks99	will add/update to: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Regrouping%20the%20General%20Admin%20page	[13:57]
chibaguy	I'm hoping when litecss themes become the default, devs will be more aware of keeping div tags in order. Developing using tikineat hides div problems usually.	[14:01]
luciash	yup yup validator says end tag for div ommited any idea what happened to browser title ? most of tiki pages have no title in my browser window or sitetitle is missing	[14:03]
latlink	HI -When In tiki-editpage - I have 2 of all the format icons - is that how it should be?	[14:06]
luciash	latlink: quicktags ?	[14:06]
latlink	yes	[14:06]
luciash	check tiki-admin_quicktags.php if they're there	[14:07]
latlink	ok	[14:07]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r16569 10/trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): [ADD] update morcego wiki3d browser to version 0.6.0	[14:16]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16570 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_categories.tpl: [FIX] Missing closing div tag broke column layout.	[14:16]
chibaguy	I don't know why that missing tag wasn't causing a problem before, unless something else changed. Wasn't the usual problem of a /div tag on the wrong side of an if. This time it was just a cbox closing tag with no conditional statements nearby.	[14:18]
R\|SK	Can somebody help me with the user rights management. ? I try to assign the right to view and edit all wiki pages to a normal registered user	[14:20]
chibaguy	Probably ricks99 can ;-).	[14:20]
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latlink_	luciash: Yes quicktags are there - all 12 pages - no duplicates in wiki section	[14:22]
R\|SK	I've ticked the checkboxes tiki_p_view, tiki_p_edit, tiki_p_wiki_view_history but logged in as a registered user I can't even view the page. Even the Homepage is forbidden. I can only access it, setting up local page perms.	[14:22]
chibaguy	R\|SK, are you using categories?	[14:23]
R\|SK	Yes. Do I have to set up category rights as well?	[14:23]
chibaguy	I think you must also assing tiki_p_view_categorized to the registered group. assing -> assign	[14:23]
R\|SK	I'll check Hmm, now I can access the HomePage, but not ist subpages in the same category.	[14:24]
ricks99	dev.tw.o admin help: i cannot attach a file to wiki page. Getting "Cannot write to this file..." error	[14:29]
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chibaguy	chibaguy wonders how we ever managed without that "page saved" notice....not really knowing if the page was saved or not. ;-)	[14:35]
amette_	ricks99: hang on (you're lucky I saw that by accident ;) )	[14:36]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16571 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fade.php: [NEW] Plugin to hide and show a block of text	[14:37]
ricks99	@chibabuy: agreeed. :)	[14:38]
amette_	hmmm.... we are missing lots of attachments on dev.tw.o I fear ;)	[14:39]
chibaguy	chibaguy happy to see that latest commit.	[14:39]
amette_	well, ok, it were only 14 attachments... gimme ten minutes, I'm on it	[14:43]
ricks99	ty	[14:44]
luciash	hey bro	[14:46]
amette_	ricks99: please have another try - it's not the final thing, but I gotta rework the structure of the server anyways soon - so I'm happy you came up with this issue before I start doing that :)	[14:48]
luciash	chibaguy: ty for the fix	[14:48]
amette_	heya, bro :) ah, mom now	[14:48]
luciash	heheh	[14:49]
amette_	(had to fix path in admin->wiki still ;) ) :)	[14:49]
luciash	underscore still there ;)	[14:49]
ricks99	working now. tx amette	[14:49]
amette_	great, yw :) luciash: underscore?	[14:50]
luciash	in your nick ;)	[14:50]
amette_	oh, ah, yup, every IRC-window had a notification - did I netsplit or such?	[14:50]
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amette	:)	[14:50]
luciash	:) latlink quit, hmm, no idea why the quicktags do not show up for him/her	[14:51]
	luciash wonders why there's no link from Admin to tiki-admin.php?page=profiles on trunk	[14:56]
amette	because it's not a stable main-feature that you use every day, but just once to get started? is it under Admin->Profiles in the menu_42?	[14:57]
luciash	it is not	[14:57]
amette	ok, that is a little bit too little exposure of the feature then ;)	[14:57]
chibaguy	luciash, I think maybe just because it was 'hidden' in Tiki 2, and nobody made the links in trunk. yet.	[14:57]
luciash	ah :) how surprising :)	[14:58]
amette	g	[14:58]
chibaguy	(i guess)	[14:58]
amette	we agree to guess the same, I guess ;)	[14:58]
chibaguy	:-)	[14:59]
amette	amette will now have a smoke break and then get back to his rl work always nice to meet you guys in between :)	[14:59]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16572 10/third_party/xajax/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [UPD] Update to Xajax 0.5 final	[15:00]
chibaguy	good to make contact, even a little :-)	[15:01]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16573 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fade.php: [FIX] Add some protection	[15:09]
	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16574 10/trunk/templates/tiki-register.tpl: [ENH] some enhancements	[15:16]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16575 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: [REM] cleaning: removed some commented out code	[15:37]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16576 10/trunk/ (lib/ajax/autosave.php tiki-auto_save.php): [FIX] autosave... how ambarrassing ;p tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16577 10/trunk/ (60 files in 39 dirs): [FIX]menu: case in menu	[15:53]
SEWilco2	Whoever put SEFURL rules in DB: nice touch. Are the .htaccess rules in there also so they can be emitted upon request?	[16:01]
sylvieg	No I will think I will have to do it .. and also an interface for everythig... sylvieg trying to introduce properly the sumo job on sefurl	[16:03]
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chibaguy	chibaguy would like to know how the icon smarty function works, to use it in place of "Show/Hide Left\|Right Column" and the folder icon. It'd be nice if themes could have unique column-hiding links. (icons)	[16:23]
sylvieg	the folder icon is already an {icon} - I think I changed it and somebody changes the show/hide too... it is very convenient to overload icon	[16:27]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16578 10/branches/2.0/styles/lite/lite.css: [FIX] backport from trunk: do not force font-size + remove debug border colors	[16:29]
chibaguy	ok, sylvieg, I'll see about it in tiki.tpl.	[16:31]
Caarrie	chibaguy: dont forget about the sleep too ;)	[16:31]
chibaguy	thx Caarrie, I heading that way very soon. ;-)	[16:32]
Caarrie	good ;) we dont want a zombie working on code ;P * :P	[16:32]
chibaguy	maybe too late already ;-)	[16:32]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16579 10/branches/2.0/styles/thenews.css: [FIX] backport from trunk: basic font-size and bottom border line alignment	[16:33]
Caarrie	hehe	[16:33]
luciash	heheh	[16:33]
chibaguy	on that note, g'night everyone :-)	[16:35]
Caarrie	night chibaguy	[16:35]
luciash	good night, gary	[16:36]
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luciash	and i'll take some food i think now ;)	[16:36]
Caarrie	we dont have issues with hungry coding devs :P just yet	[16:37]
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SEWilco2	sylvieg: Thanks for moving the URL list in DB. I should have thought of that. Now I have to puzzle out the weird URLs. sylvieg: Incidentally, when emitting a list of .htaccess rules: sequence is important, and dupes should be removed. sylvieg: I anticipate dupes due to two rules: image.php?imagegal=1&image=2 and image.php?image=2&imagegal=1 mapping to same SEFURL.	[17:04]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16584 10/third_party/fckeditor/ (260 files in 34 dirs): upgrade fck 2.6.4	[18:04]
luciash	is it possible to link to a file gallery file directly ? (not image but avoid download dialog)	[18:05]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16585 10/trunk/styles/darkroom/right.png: forgotten file	[18:15]
SEWilco2	luciash: Clarification: by "download dialog" you mean a "What do you want to do with this file" popup window?	[18:16]
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SEWilco2	luciash: I don't know, I've tried to get rid of the popup question from several web servers. My browser sometimes insists on it despite checkbox to "always do this action".	[18:23]
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luciash	SEWilco2: yes, instead of offering the download popup i need to link for example flv or swf file directly i know it is possible with images but i need it for files &preview doesn't work with my flv file :-( tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&preview	[18:29]
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SEWilco2	luciash: Want flv to play in the browser? My code minion just did that yesterday. luciash: He set up http://www.theredbulls.org/ so video .flv files link to a .php which offers to play the video.	[18:54]
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luciash	hm, but i want it to work in Tiki with multimedia plugin and tracker multimedia type	[18:59]
sylvieg	do you have .htaccess?	[19:00]
SEWilco2	luciash: Well, I can email you the code. Maybe you can generalize it.	[19:00]
luciash	sylvieg: nope	[19:00]
SEWilco2	luciash: I think he changed a .tpl to emit a URL to a new tiki-flashview.php which uses our new {VIDEO} plugin. luciash: We're going to polish {VIDEO} next week so we can emit it to trunk.	[19:01]
luciash	i guess file galleries tiki-download_file.php needs a param like &preview but for files, maybe &view	[19:01]
SEWilco2	Heh. We're planning on also adding a Thumbnail column to filegals, where thumbnail will be generated by configurable plugin.	[19:02]
luciash	nice .)	[19:03]
SEWilco2	So when browsing a filegal of type video podcast, the {VIDEO} plugin will be called. Plugin will decide how to emit thumbnail - which may be full click-to-view window.	[19:03]
sylvieg	luciash: are you file in a podcast lib?	[19:03]
luciash	normal mixed files lib	[19:04]
sylvieg	... because I think you need an extension to the file - the pog gal keeps the extension and so the files are able to be see directly my 2 cents....	[19:04]
SEWilco2	We have an {AUDIO} plugin also which will adapt for audio podcast filegal. Someone will have to create a general thumbnailer for other files.	[19:05]
luciash	sylvieg: ah, the trick with &.jpg ? ;) i'll try it on filegal file download	[19:05]
SEWilco2	I'm trying to find a way to emit .jpg URLs for imagegal so lighttpd can directly access image file directory.	[19:06]
sylvieg	SEWilco2: do not invest on imagals - it is almost a dead feature use the pod fgal to kepp the extension' (need to check if .jpg in kept in pod fgal)	[19:07]
luciash	{MEDIAPLAYER(flv="tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&.flv")}{MEDIAPLAYER} doesn't work :(	[19:09]
SEWilco2	luciash: Want me to email the code which currently produces the links on .flv in http://www.theredbulls.org/file2	[19:10]
luciash	yup	[19:10]
SEWilco2	luciash: How to email.. is your dev.tw.o login connected to email someplace?	[19:11]
luciash	sylvieg: what was the old wiki plugin name which showed the multimedia player feature ?	[19:11]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: Thanks, we'd been considering switching from imagegal to filegal because that looked necessary. sylvieg: Next week I'm adding a fileId parameter to {IMAGE} so it can better support filegals.	[19:12]
luciash	SEWilco2: luci2008 Æt ground dot cz	[19:13]
SEWilco2	luciash: OK, minion will send. Will include current dev version of VIDEO plugin in case it's relevant. We haven't puzzled out the multimedia tracker stuff yet.	[19:16]
sylvieg	this is strange MEDIAPLAYER works on a mp3 on fgal but not a flv..... I put this on my list...	[19:18]
luciash	i'm not sure it will be useful for what i need to figure out but lets see :) sylvieg: ah great that you revealed :-) i didn't try with mp3	[19:18]
SEWilco2	Well, the purpose of VIDEO is to address the task rather than technology, so it can be modified to handle several video types.	[19:19]
sylvieg	ok I know why	[19:19]
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luciash	sylvieg: that was fast	[19:20]
SEWilco2	The previous plugins were focused on specific technologies. {VIDEO} should accept any file ID and do the best it can with it.	[19:20]
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luciash	then why is it called VIDEO ? ;)	[19:21]
SEWilco2	The text content editor just needs to tell us if they're trying to show an image, video, or audio file.	[19:21]
sylvieg	still not working.. I have to pick up my son	[19:23]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16586 10/trunk/tiki-upload_file.php: [FIX]fgal: let extension .flv in a podcast fgal	[19:23]
SEWilco2	After all, if they call {AUDIO} and point at a video file it might decide to play the sound track of the video. Can't do that yet, but it's reasonable.	[19:23]
luciash	almost as shadowbox does... what about pdf, doc, etc ?	[19:23]
sylvieg	SEWilco2: if you have a good videa plugin - welcome - we have nothing very powerful in tw bbl	[19:23]
SEWilco2	For that matter, I might code {AUDIO} so if you point it at a pdf, it will read the text to you. :-)	[19:23]
luciash	SEWilco2: i can do that via shadowbox already :) sylvieg: thank you sylvieg: mp3 doesn't play here from filegal either :(	[19:24]
SEWilco2	Shadowbox does text to speech conversion? Good. Might come in handy for when I write {SLIDESHOW}.	[19:24]
luciash	must it be specified as podcast gallery ? SEWilco2: text to speech ? nope, it just displays pdf in fancy window layer opened up over the page if you have pdf plugin installed in your browser ;) shadowbox is just eye candy to display media	[19:25]
SEWilco2	luciash: Oh, OK. I'll delay reading aloud the slide's descriptions until version 3 of {SLIDESHOW} then. :-) Yup, next week I'll probably write {SLIDESHOW} using one of the simpler tech, then add shadowbox if it's been enabled. My first version will probably use ...page... to show images. If shadowbox is enabled then it may instead use it, depending on plugin config.	[19:27]
luciash	SEWilco2: good idea to reuse shadowbox	[19:31]
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SEWilco2	Yeah, shadowbox is pretty, but I want the plugin to also work in the simplest installations.	[19:37]
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SEWilco2	That's why I'll be touching up {IMAGE} next week. I'll add config so it can wrap itself in a frame if you need to not modify CSS.	[19:38]
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SEWilco2	Argh. A video filegal dir isn't appearing in the "Move to" pulldown menu.	[19:44]
ricks99	im getting memory errors on dev.tw.o Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 209715200 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 390360 bytes) in	[19:44]
amette	grmpf fixed	[19:44]
ricks99	looks like on most pages with tracker includes amette u are 'da bomb	[19:45]
amette	thanks ;) I'd be an atombomb, if I could fix that forever without human intervention... ;)	[19:45]
SEWilco2	Maybe all we need is atombomb.sh	[19:47]
mycomputer	"Specify if Tiki should use GZIP (external link) to compress pages before sending them to the user's browser. Selecting this option will reduce your site's bandwidth usage" What does it mean exactly? I do not understand it	[19:47]
SEWilco2	mycomputer: Means the HTML will be compressed. I think.	[19:47]
amette	SEWilco2: and a cronjob that calls it every hour or so - yup, but that's not a solution, just a workaround ;)	[19:47]
ricks99	@mycompuer: see docs: http://www.gzip.org/#intro	[19:47]
SEWilco2	amette: Connect atombomb.sh so it is triggered by the error handler?	[19:48]
mycomputer	SeWilco1 : Ok. I didn't know it was possible	[19:48]
ricks99	@SEWilco2: not atombomb.sh -- but amettebomb.sh	[19:48]
amette	g	[19:48]
SEWilco2	Didn't sound as if amette wanted to be da bomb.	[19:48]
amette	SEWilco2: yes and no... the errors may appear before they are loggen in apache's error logs... ah, humm, no... ... this memory-error gets logged - right! We had another problem with "broken pipes from output filter" - and that one can't really be traced in error logs (at least not with fine grained correlation in time :-/ )	[19:48]
SEWilco2	ERROR - run atombomb.sh - redirect to same page. Tah-dah. No error, just redirects until it runs. (insert blindfolded smiley smoking a cigarette)	[19:50]
amette	g	[19:50]
SEWilco2	Yeah, tell me about untraceability. I get a blank page when I log in, have to reload then it works.	[19:51]
amette	amette nods	[19:51]
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mycomputer	When I click on the link "contact us" on the admin pages, tikiwiki says: "This feature is disabled: feature_messages" and yet I enabled this option in the features	[20:36]
CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16587 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]module: textarea+move data after the 2 columns to have a bigger space	[20:36]
sylvieg	mycomputer: there is also a 'allow contact for anonymous' soemwhere	[20:37]
mycomputer	I enabled it too	[20:38]
marclaporte	polom For the mouseover & fade plugins, I am wondering how to handle when they are empty	[20:38]
sylvieg	ah feature_message is missing...	[20:39]
marclaporte	if they are empty, it's a little dissapointing to see a link, click on it, and nothing...	[20:39]
mycomputer	sylvieg: where is this feature? Is it "Users messages" ? it is ! thank for your help sylvieg	[20:41]
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	I discovered tiwiki a few weeks ago and now I am learning how it works. I think this is great software !	[20:58]
	good night	[21:04]
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sylvieg	if somebody is lucky lib/admin/magiclib.php is locked for me - there is a lib/tikilib.pgp - the lib/ is missing I get a svn: Server sent unexpected return value (423 Locked) in response to PUT request for '/svnroot/tikiwiki/!svn/wrk/9feffb06-c7b0-4c6f-9aeb-f5d8bb81ad90/trunk/lib/admin/magiclib.php'	[21:08]
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marclaporte	I am wondering if RewriteRule .(css\|gif\|jpg\|pn is still necessary now that we have check if file exists	[22:05]
sylvieg	no but the lph rules are too restrictive (see my commit with img/trackers) so I do not know.... and sampiro committed this morning also	[22:06]
marclaporte	I have bug with img/trackers as well	[22:07]
sylvieg	seems that it is tricky the rewrite rules do not consider the image is ok because - I suppose there is no extension to the file so I do not know if the fix is to do be done in rewrite rules or if we have to access such file via a tiki-download_something.php	[22:08]
marclaporte	oh, I see	[22:10]
	I confirm your fix works. Tks	[22:17]
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marclaporte	mouseover (popup) in trackerlist broke between 1.9 and trunk Ex.: {trackerlist trackerId="14" popup="255"} marclaporte checks code	[22:22]
sylvieg	I think you are right - notice yesterday also something strnage...	[22:25]
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sylvieg	strnage on my old db it is ok - on a fresh install it does not work	[22:28]
marclaporte	some plugin tpls are in templates and some are in wiki-plugins; where should be put new ones? I noticed something very strange too about itemIDs, (not sure if related)	[22:29]
sylvieg	i wish everybody put il templates/wiki-plugins	[22:30]
marclaporte	ok, will do I had system field in tracker to show itemID in 1.9 Then, on upgrade to trunk, itemID is now in auto-increment, so that was easy to change (no prob) But the weird thing is that old values don't show if I edit tracker item and save, itemID works fine I don't know if that can be related to mouse over issue	[22:30]
sylvieg	I thought the itemId in system was when - I do not remember who- create the field in system - juste after I created in autoincrement	[22:32]
marclaporte	Yes that was a little confusion from back in the days we would still dev new things on stable branch Kerrnel added that to 1.9.11 I think	[22:33]
sylvieg	and I was in 1.10... sorry about that	[22:34]
marclaporte	autoincrement is fine and most people will use that (all is good) just strange that I need to edit to get it (not really a problem, I just hope it's not symptom of larger bug)	[22:34]
sylvieg	it is updated only on save	[22:35]
marclaporte	ahhh And if someone imports?	[22:36]
sylvieg	import = creation should work suppose I should be able now to dynamically get the value	[22:36]
marclaporte	so data is at two places?	[22:37]
sylvieg	yes there is a patch http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Auto-increment Field I should be able to do better now (as I have all the recusrsive stuff.. ) on my list	[22:38]
marclaporte	anyway, it's really an edge case, most people will be just creating new stuff I wanted to document System Field Type but I don't understand what it does (if anything) tks for the patch	[22:45]
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sylvieg	it is the only thing I know http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=System Tracker Field	[22:50]
marclaporte	ok, maybe it was unfinished feature, or easter eggs	[22:57]
sylvieg	the rating is not well implemented - should be a normal field so trackerlist popup does not work because something change the / into / seesm it is the plugin parsing...	[22:58]
marclaporte	ah yes, I have seem some similar things / somewhere	[23:05]
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CIA-51	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16588 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [MOD] tell what password it is	[23:50]
sylvieg	I give up - something is wrong with the parsing in plugin... It is not my fault - so marc if you want it , find the guy who changed plusign parsing	[23:59]

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