#tikiwiki 2009-02-15,Sun

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lq_239	ok thanks oh one more thing is there like a recommended settings file or webpage somewhere? There's alot of settings in this thing lol	[00:01]
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SEWilco21	lq_239: Define "this thing". There are a lot of things. Anyone know why TW 2.2 tiki-download_file.php might emit files of size zero? File permissions are OK, and browser thinks it is downloading a file.	[00:22]
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SEWilco2	My MP4 files have NULL filetype in the database. Where are file types identified?	[01:26]
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SEWilco2	Great. File types are being determined by suffix. OK, changed to .mpeg and it now downloads. Well, it kind of downloads. Doesn't download as "dl123" but does as "podcasts/lsdjfslfsdfldfkjdslfjsdf", and as a BIN file instead of MPEG. I see the filename is missing .mpeg extension.	[02:19]
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	Oh, a bug. TW 2.2 file_upload.php tests for .mp4 but .mp4 is not in the mime list. Fixed.. but still size zero on download. Are TW 2.2 podcast downloads sensitive to spaces in file names?	[02:37]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r16769 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [MOD] french translation file : get_strings + some translations	[08:18]
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Yoni	hi all	[09:30]
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[Bart]	Hi, I've used '{wiki}{literal}{GOOGLEANALYTICS(account=UA-(CODE))}{/literal}{/wiki} in my tikiwiki as custom end of code,but still don't get anything in google analytics. Do I miss something	[11:07]
	never mind found it	[11:16]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16770 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-read_article.tpl tiki-view_articles.tpl): [ENH] Layout tables replaced with divs and spans; anchor class changed for uniformity.	[11:25]
	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16771 10/trunk/templates/ (blog-heading.tpl tiki-view_blog.tpl): [ENH] Blog title changed from div to h1 for uniformity; "breadcrumbs" added; title for tag list.	[11:30]
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idle-	hi, I've some intersting requests here: Request: /tiki-browse_gallery.php?offset=0&galleryid=1'%20and%201=2%20union%20select%20CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f, User-Agent: NV32ts Cookie: PHPSESSID=64e76fd7a68804bb8c03f94da795e7f0 is it a possible security problem?	[12:14]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16772 10/trunk/templates/ (4 files): [FIX] Roll back if necessary, but link class="tableheading" didn't seem to have effect; style provided by "th a".	[12:27]
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xavi	polom here we are at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMadrid streaming from time to time	[13:00]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16773 10/trunk/ (13 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Coelesce theme design by Patrick Allard for COE ui-revamp; initial commit of files adapted for trunk.	[13:07]
xavi	well done, Gary! :-) ^chibaguy	[13:16]
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Yoni	arffff off-air right now :)	[14:10]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16774 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_contribution.tpl: [MOD]contribution: better layout	[14:47]
xavi	broadcasting again from TikiFestMadrid	[14:52]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16775 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_webservice.php: [FIX] Include path changes broke webservices	[14:53]
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axold	so hello everybody from tikifest madrid	[14:56]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16776 10/trunk/ (24 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Implementation of Strasa design by Patrick Allard; initial commit of files.	[14:57]
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xavi	polom	[15:16]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03axold * r16777 10/trunk/tests/testfile.txt: I added a file in test directory	[16:01]
lq_162	Has anyone had a problem with adminuser php loading properly everything else works fine.	[16:01]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03axold * r16778 10/trunk/tests/example.txt: I added a file in test directory	[16:03]
lq_162	does any one know how to change the port for send mail my host does not support port 25?	[16:04]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16779 10/trunk/tests/messu-compose.tpl: Rober's first commit.From TikiFest Madrid	[16:06]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03matwho * r16780 10/trunk/tests/testfile.txt: a test	[16:10]
marclaporte	polom	[16:12]
xavi	polom	[16:13]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03matwho * r16781 10/trunk/tests/testfile.txt: a test	[16:22]
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idle-	hi could this request be a possible security problem: /tiki-browse_gallery.php?offset=0&galleryid=1'%20and%201=2%20union%20select%20CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0x27,0x7c,0x5f,0x7c),CONCAT(0	[17:45]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16782 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] dos2unix tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16783 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Making the password field use stars	[17:56]
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tosi	hello guys	[18:13]
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Iramon	anyone from tikifest madrid on here?	[18:17]
tosi	i have one question about tikiwiki import-users or their management. i would like to import a lot of users to tikiwiki from other system, where they are stored in the database and have encrypted password by md5. but i am not able to do so. if i add users through csv file, their passwords are encrypted again (hashed are again hashed). so i am able to create some db script for import, but there is a big problem with	[18:18]
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xavi	hi lramon yes	[18:20]
Iramon	:)	[18:20]
xavi	we are still here who are you? :-) do we know each other?	[18:20]
Iramon	sitting in the hostal bari?	[18:20]
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Iramon	hey marc :) xavi: I talked to marc before, that I want to help, but can't come to madrid :/	[18:21]
xavi	yes , we are still sitting here	[18:22]
Iramon	:)	[18:22]
xavi	lramon, have you seen us at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMadrid streaming? you will even hear us, I think	[18:22]
Iramon	now :D	[18:23]
xavi	right now we are very loud... (people is tired here....) what's your name?	[18:23]
Iramon	hey wave ^^	[18:23]
xavi	real name, I man	[18:23]
Iramon	Florian	[18:23]
xavi	I mean where are you from?	[18:23]
Iramon	germany	[18:24]
xavi	welcome, then. I pity you couldn't attend here...	[18:24]
Iramon	yeah :/	[18:24]
xavi	Ouh.... Ben (mangapowerx) speaks german! :-O	[18:24]
Iramon	oh... nice t-shirts I need such a shirt too :D	[18:24]
marclaporte	hi Iramon!	[18:26]
Iramon	hi marc :) omg... is everyone of you wearing a tiki t-shirt? so if I can help somehow from here, let me know... if you're doing software modelling, brainstorming or whatever, I could get a headset e.g.	[18:26]
xavi	not right now any more. We feel like dinner time... tomorrow, maybe We'll do out best to have streaming again, with voice	[18:30]
Iramon	ok :)	[18:31]
xavi	we'll do our best to update the page tw.o/TikiFestMadrid	[18:31]
Iramon	when did you start today?	[18:31]
xavi	so se there if there is something you feel that you can/want to help with	[18:31]
Iramon	ok I will check it tomorrow morning/noon and now you're getting dinner and more drinks? ;)	[18:32]
xavi	yes, it looks like that	[18:33]
Iramon	k, then bon apetite and have a lot of fun ;)	[18:35]
xavi	so bye...	[18:36]
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SEWilco2	Solved my podcast problems. MIME types omitted some upload-accepted file suffixes, and TW 2.2 has a bug in download file directories.	[19:04]
	idle-: Obviously someone is trying to insert SQL into a request. I don't know if browse-gallery is protected from SQL injection.	[19:09]
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lq_950	Hello. I have a large number of items in my wiki database without categories assigned. Can someone explain to me how the category information is stored in the wiki database?	[20:44]
SEWilco2	lq_950: If I recall correctly, there are tables for category info.	[20:47]
lq_950	yeah I've looked at the tables but I can't make sense of it how is it that the database tells the wiki what pages are within what category in other words I can't seem to find how the categories are linked to the wiki pages	[20:49]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Oh, I see what you mean. I thought that was in tiki_category_objects, but I don't see how that identifies objects of different types. Hmm. lq_950: Oh, I think I see it. Look at tiki_objects. lq_950: I'd have to check code to be certain, but I suspect "type" and "itemid" identify a kind of thing and the thing's id. Such as "articles","34" is a specific article.	[20:53]
lq_950	ok checking it now. thanks	[20:55]
SEWilco2	lq_950: The objectId is then used in tiki_category_objects to connect objects to categories. Probably. lq_950: That's a guess based on the database. The code is the authority.	[20:56]
sylvieg	+ tiki-category_object associatess categId and categObjectId , tiki_categorized_objects associates categObjectId and objectId	[20:57]
obnox	hi folks Anything objections to me modifying the display of "new users" to include only those who have already confirmed their login? err, well, broken language, but I guess you know what I mean... :-)	[21:00]
sylvieg	obnox: seems a good idea	[21:03]
obnox	sylvieg: the solution seems to be to extend the queries to check for "`provpass`=''"	[21:04]
sylvieg	I can not garanty that wihiout looking at the code - there is so many registration case....	[21:05]
SEWilco2	obnox: List a column "confirmed" Y/N? Allow sorting by columns?	[21:05]
obnox	well the confirm_user function sets provpass to '' SEWilco2: that'd be nice,too I was firstly thinking about the new_users feature in the modules/mod-since_last_visit* modules	[21:06]
lq_950	Ok I've looked at how the stuff is linked. The problem is most of the items I have listed in tiki_pages are NOT listed in tiki_objects. What could be causing this?	[21:07]
obnox	SEWilco2: but as a next step the enhancement of the admin users page, yeah, I'm gonna look into that	[21:07]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Don't know. Maybe tiki_objects isn't what we're looking for. Hmm.	[21:16]
lq_950	It may be. I have a few items listed there	[21:16]
sylvieg	tiki_objects is filled up only when needed - first categ, or first freetag...	[21:17]
lq_950	so there is no way I can link items in tiki_pages to a category in the database?	[21:18]
sylvieg	you have to create the tiki_objects line on the fly	[21:18]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Oh. Categories are for linking things like an entire wiki page, not things within the wiki page.	[21:20]
lq_950	??? sorry I don't know what that means. hmmm. The items in my tiki_pages are wiki pages, or will be. Could the problem be that alot of them are just blank pages at the moment? If I fill in some data would it place them in objects?	[21:20]
SEWilco2	Looks to me as if tiki_objects is for things like links and images used in wiki pages. Not what I was thinking. lq_950: If you're creating the items, why are you worried about the database instead of assigning categories to pages? lq_950: I thought you were asking about the database because you were altering a program. lq_950: Do you know how to assign a category to a page? On the edit page there is a text button-like thing to display a list of categories.	[21:21]
lq_950	right now I have a bunch of pages created with no information in them I was trying to go ahead and assign them to the proper category for now yeah I know how to assign them 1 at a time. problem is I have roughly 4000 to assign	[21:24]
SEWilco2	lq_950: I am not aware of a tool for assigning categories to pages. Interesting idea; an export/import format for category assignment. lq_950: Did you find your categorized pages in tiki_objects?	[21:26]
lq_950	yes	[21:27]
SEWilco2	lq_950: And do the objectIds match those in the tiki_categor* tables?	[21:27]
sylvieg	http://mods.tikiwiki.org/details.php?type=goodies&mod=batch_load_pages not sure it is working	[21:27]
SEWilco2	Thanks, sylvieg. If batch_load_pages doesn't include category info then maybe adding that to the existing format would be a way to start.	[21:28]
lq_950	yeah they match. The problem is I have a bunch of stuff listed in tiki_pages not showing in the tiki_objects yet. could it be that I just need to add some info for them to show?	[21:28]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Based on what I see in tiki_objects, it looks like things are added when they are needed. No categorization, no need for an objectId. lq_950: Pick a page which doesn't have an object, add a category, then look again.	[21:29]
lq_950	yeah but like my homepage has an objectid, but it's not assigned to a category so why would it be in the objects table?	[21:30]
SEWilco2	lq_950: For that matter, look at the program for editing a wiki page and see how the category info is processed. lq_950: The objectId is used for many things other than categories.	[21:31]
obnox	hmmm, there is a "race condition" in the confirmed-users thing as it is currently: the registrationDate is not update upon confirmation	[21:32]
lq_950	I think I have an idea lol	[21:32]
SEWilco2	obnox: Is registrationDate supposed to indicate when they started the process, or when they confirmed?	[21:32]
lq_950	I imported a bunch of stuff into the products table using a script I wrote (didn't know about the batch thing) and not into objects I bet if I just put them in objects too that I'll be able to link them in no time	[21:32]
SEWilco2	lq_950: See how that batch page tool works, and see if it has categories or if that data can be added to the imported data.	[21:33]
lq_950	not products table (pages table) I can just use my script again. The tables are similar.	[21:33]
SEWilco2	lq_950: See how batched pages are processed, and imagine the category data riding along and being processed when appropriate.	[21:33]
lq_950	one more question though. How can I keep the ip addresses of my users from showing?	[21:34]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Well, back up your database and good luck. Would be nice to have a generalized tool. lq_950: I don't know where they are visible. I'd look at the code for the page where they are visible, then at the .tpl file for that page.	[21:34]
lq_950	They're in the "last changes" page	[21:35]
SEWilco2	lq_950: Keeping in mind that if you create a custom style you can have separate .tpl files for that style.	[21:35]
lq_950	can I just keep that from showing?	[21:36]
SEWilco2	lq_950: The purpose of the .tpl is to emit the stuff on the page. So just have it not emit stuff. Or add a configuration parameter to control that.	[21:36]
lq_950	yeah I realize I could just delete that but I want to keep it for me (admin) but not have it so registered and anon users can see it	[21:36]
obnox	SEWilco2: well _I_ would say that the registrationDate should indicate when the registration has been completed, so the confirm_user should update the registrationDate. right?	[21:38]
SEWilco2	There would be more control if you add a permission. Then admins can control who can see it. Or maybe there is such a permission -- there are so many. obnox: Depends on the meaning of "registration". I consider filling out the paperwork as the registration, not after the registration has been processed.	[21:38]
obnox	SEWilco2: well, there is no separation between registrationDate and confirmationDate (or so) so when is registration completed	[21:39]
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obnox	I'd say, when the account has been confirmed	[21:40]
SEWilco2	obnox: I don't know the intent. I'd leave an existing registrationDate alone, but if it is NULL at confirmation time then I'd fill it in.	[21:40]
obnox	SEWilco2: add_user does fill the registrationDate, so confirm_user will always find a registrationDate already SEWilco2: the intent is the following:	[21:42]
SEWilco2	obnox: Then apparently the coder intended for "registration" to mean when the paperwork is filled in, not when they get around to confirming. obnox: What is the founder's intent?	[21:43]
obnox	I want to change what the mod-since_last_visit* think are the new users since the last login i would like it to see only the users that have confirmed their login	[21:44]
SEWilco2	obnox: Sounds like you need a different date field, or an option to update registrationDate upon confirmation.	[21:45]
obnox	SEWilco2: why an option? i'd simply update registrationDate in confirm_user	[21:45]
SEWilco2	obnox: If registrationDate is updated upon confirmation, "new users" need only show those with date AND confirmed_flag (whatever its actual name is) match.	[21:46]
obnox	exactly	[21:46]
SEWilco2	obnox: An option is necessary if you want to be exactly compatible with the present behavior.	[21:47]
obnox	SEWilco2: i don't get you. I want to change present behaviour. :-)	[21:47]
SEWilco2	obnox: If you want to change the present behavior for all TW, I can't judge that. Ask the dev list. obnox: I haven't even reread the doc to see if the current behavior is documented, much less whether reasons for the design are given.	[21:47]
obnox	SEWilco2: ok, gonna read.	[21:48]
SEWilco2	obnox: For that matter, if the correct doc doesn't describe the current behavior then you could document it. :-) It can be updated if something changes.	[21:49]
obnox	sylvieg: said above it sounded like a good idea, but in order to carry it through, this change is needed SEWilco2: or change then document... ;-)	[21:49]
SEWilco2	obnox: Yes, it does sound useful. Unless someone wants new users to show before confirmation, such as if one wants to delete idiots before they become visible.	[21:51]
obnox	SEWilco2: btw: you're talking about paperwork, when is the paperwork finished? why does confirmation not belong to the paperwork? isn't it the final signature?	[21:51]
sylvieg	perhaps there is 2 behavior - admin sees all the user - non admin sees only confirmed	[21:51]
SEWilco2	I wonder if there is an "RSS feed of new users".	[21:51]
obnox	i don't want to change all even unconfirmed users showing up in the admin users page!	[21:51]
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obnox	only the mod-since-last modules	[21:52]
SEWilco2	obnox: I'm equating paperwork delays to delays in confirmation. When you register to college, the date you fill out the paperwork is when you register. obnox: While the date when the college processed the paperwork is a different date than the registration date.	[21:52]
obnox	this is more like a three step paperwork: 1. you fill out the initial form	[21:53]
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obnox	2. college sends you a confirmation form 3. you sign the confirmation form with current date... ;)	[21:53]
SEWilco2	obnox: Maybe the new changes page should, for admins, show two lists: new users and new confirmed users.	[21:53]
obnox	yeah, that could be useful	[21:54]
SEWilco2	4. You buy a stamp because you never use snail mail.	[21:54]
obnox	;)	[21:55]
	SEWilco2: there is still the "created" timestamp, this will not get modified	[22:03]
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obnox	sylvieg: in the little new since ... menu? oops. soory	[22:18]
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obnox	SEWilco2: what is "the doc" you were referring to, earlier	[22:25]
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SEWilco2	obnox: Whatever might be on doc.tikiwiki.org is "the doc", plus comments in code (few). I haven't looked for doc for registration.	[22:46]
obnox	ok thx	[22:47]
SEWilco2	obnox: I didn't know there was a "created" timestamp. I assume regdate == createddate at the beginning.	[22:48]
obnox	at account creation, yes	[22:48]
	and when confirmation is required, I would set regdate at confirmation	[22:53]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16786 10/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]comments/forum: take away duplicated code in post topic in forum and post reply in forum and in comments.php itself: 2 new functions post_in_forum to post a topic or a reply and post_in_object to post a comment	[23:15]
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