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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16973 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [ENH] Added title "Top" to legend # anchors. [00:02]
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16974 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Inconsistent a and a:hover padding caused movement in phpl menu. [00:12]
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16975 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Make hover behavior consistent with other buttons. [00:17]
chibaguyI wonder if anybody has time to deal with the theme-changing oddness in Look and Feel.
Selecting a new theme should just change the theme, not show the same theme again along with "Note: Theme displayed differs from "site" theme (current theme name)"
Of course it differs, that's the objective of making the switch.
The extra step is confusing and irritating IMHO.
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lq_397anyone know of a sitemap tool that will update itself and also notify google? [02:36]
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gerberti use PluginTracker in wiki for data entry. Upon user submiting the form(action=>Submit), how do i create a new wiki page named from the the user input in one of the tracker fields.
And further how is it possible to add additional info, taken from other tracker field, to the top of new wiki page above the edit area. thanks
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gantihi all i am encountering a problem while trying to create a new Wiki page in tikiw
tikiwiki
I enabled 'Quick edit' ' and 'Search wiki PageName' modules in my project
When i enter a name say Requirements in Quick Edit text box a editor is displayed
then i am trying to create a wiki page by giving ((Requirements)) in the editor and tryin g to 'Save' it
i am getting the 'Page not Found' error in 'tiki-editpage.php' file
can anybody help me in this regard?
!help
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Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [05:03]
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luciashpolom polom !
TikiFest Montréal starts today, yay ! :)
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luciashamette: add <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
amette: to the irc chat log output please
amette: it will help at least the messages have proper encoding as i tried to set it manually via firefox menu
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amette: i hope you enjoyed your flight and settled down in Montreal properly easily finding your way to cgcom offices, btw :) [09:01]
you will ;)
when you wake up :-p
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R|SKHi everybody, anybody an idea how I coukd realize a feature like webview?
Im mean sth like: "You are here: Home -> page 1 -> page 2" without having to set up a structure?
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luciashR|SK: enable breadcrubs
it's not working everywhere but it works... for wiki pages which are not structured you'll get of course only one level
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R|SKI have enabled breadcrumps module, but it only shows the list of recently visted pages.
And for unstructured wikipages it shows me nothing.
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luciashnot the module, the preference on Admin > Look and Feel
it's called Site Location or something
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R|SKAh, found it.
But you are right, for unstructured pages it only shows me main page and the current page, but not the one I came from. :(
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luciashif it would work like that, you'd end up with page full of breadcrumbs soon ;) [09:27]
R|SKYou are right.
Anyway, thanks once again. ;)
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luciashnp :) [09:29]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16976 10/trunk/templates/tiki-remind_password.tpl: [FIX] padding by changing the class, removed useless return to homepage [10:28]
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lq_443Hello world...I am having trouble installing wifidog and am unclear where I should ask questions? [10:52]
luciashlq_443: hi, huh ? what's wifidog ? [10:53]
lq_443perhaps I have asked the incorrect irc...
sounds like it
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16977 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (36 files in 11 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16944 to 16976 [11:19]
tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16978 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/lib/workspaces/typeslib.php: [FIX] features/aulawiki/lib/typeslib.php has been changed to list the roles in each workspace correctly [11:31]
tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16979 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/tiki-workspaces_types_roles.tpl: [FIX] changes in the templates to show the role types correctly [11:41]
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rlopez_i have already done 2 commits to the Mods branch to solve a bug in aulawiki in 2.2 and 3.0. Pingus and I have tested it and works.
it was something work with the templates
we are trying to push aulawiki into tiki 3.0
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sylviegI thought the problem of workspaces was because it is was not integrated into tw core - Do you will still work on the mods? [11:50]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16980 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] tikilib: embed_flash() correct xhtml output in case JS is off on client side [12:01]
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luciashwow, cssmenus work with javascript disabled in FF :) [12:08]
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sylviegluciash: ? [13:15]
luciashyep [13:15]
sylvieghello ! so what is the class form
no need to introduce a new class?
we have formcolor - but not form - so far I know
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luciash./styles/tikineat.css:512:.form td { [13:17]
sylviegsylvieg is dreaming about a day where we can put an explanation near all the classes [13:18]
luciashso we need to introduce it only for the other styles
can be empty for now, but sounds more logical to me when the table contains form to call the table's class form than normal
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sylviegseems tikineat is the only one with form td the others are td.form ... what a mess
yes I will go for an empty class
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luciashmaybe we could even get rid of the table there
thanks
yep, a mess, we have to fix it soon with gary ;)
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sylviegthe more detailled is <table whatever> .. <td class="formlabel> <td class="formcontent" ...
but the table is useless.... + 1 for that
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luciash+1 [13:22]
sylviegotherwise a formacontent width 100% to stick the label
we really need a minimum css file that represent common sense like table.normal 100%, td.formcontent 100% ...
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16981 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/ (128 files in 24 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16810 to 16980 [14:06]
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sylviegluciash: copyright - I though we will do a file copyright and a reference to this file to close the problem to redo each year
means that we delete the line c 2002-.... in each file
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luciashyep, seems like a good idea [14:36]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16982 10/branches/experimental/annotation/ (608 files in 113 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16229 to 16949 [14:47]
ametteluciash: hi :) [14:49]
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ametteThere is currently iso-8859-1 in the scripts... [14:49]
luciashgood morning amette ! :) [14:49]
amette( and it's not like I would be writing templates there... ;) )
good afternoon bro ;)
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luciashsalut marc :)
it's compiled in ? you cannot change that in a config/template ?
amette: ^
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ametteit's bash-scripts and you have to change every single one - and it's not templated, yes...
... I just saw two different places in one script where there is iso-8859-1 set...
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amette... if I just run sed over it and change it to utf-8 =
s/=/?
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luciashbash script, so there must be that piece of code which generates the html output head somewhere [14:51]
amettethat's what I said ;) [14:51]
luciashmight be good idea :)
but this output have even no meta charset i think
so maybe search for <head> abnd just add it there...
what hour does the tikifest officialy start ? how was the flight ?
:)
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amettesed done
flight was great - tikifest is up and running
just got WiFi and now starting to hack on the servers (though I didn't plan to start with irc.tw.o ;) )
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luciashw00t, i hear you !
where's the damn tab !
:D
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amettehear me? I get paranoid... :P
I see you! ;)
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luciashi hear you guys on tikifest and now even see you :-p
(found the tab :D)
i'll join you, just a mom ;)
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amette:) [14:56]
luciashi'm broadcasting now :) [14:57]
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luciashdo you have sound there ? [14:59]
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lucihello to tikifest at cgcom ! [15:00]
amettemy bro is schizophrenic [15:00]
lucinice logo :) who is the man behind camera ?
or woman :-p
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luciheh, yup, i'm lazy... this chat embedded in wiki page is more close than my irssi console :-p [15:03]
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sylviegthe sound is better than in madrid - +1 to whoever did it [15:04]
luciyup, definitely, just someone is tapping on the mic ;) [15:05]
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luciashamette: what do you think about the ctype functions not on gentoo php by default ? [15:07]
amettenothing particular - it's optional and that's a good thing to be true to the gentoo philosophy - it's 6 ascii characters in a file - fair enough imho :) [15:09]
luciashyep, but when you upgrade to tiki 3 it will break your site until you recompile it with it [15:10]
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luciashhi jyhem ! :) [15:17]
oh, now we're off air [15:23]
amettewe see it here still... [15:24]
luciashah, now it's back [15:24]
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luciashcool, gary is da man behind the camera :) [15:35]
ametteyup, yup :) [15:35]
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luci-tikifestplease use irc to chat at tikifest so everyone sees the same
i'll disable the chat on ustream.tv, the tikiwiki channel is on the show page now
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luci-tikifestwow, that's colorful presentation :) [16:18]
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damianwho is in view of the camera ? [16:22]
luci-tikifestgary is behind the camera [16:23]
damianhaha Tiki T-shirts :) [16:24]
mycomputerHello everyone. Where can I find tiki-import_phpwiki.php ? [16:31]
SEWilco2What's the URL for the camera? [16:32]
luci-tikifestheheh, someone loves testing at tikifest ;) [16:32]
damianhttp://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/523448 [16:32]
luci-tikifestSEWilco2: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live [16:33]
SEWilco2mycomputer: I don't see tiki-import_phpwiki.php anywhere in my system. Maybe it's part of a mod which I don't have installed. [16:34]
mycomputerSEWilco1 : OK. I actived/install it in admin mods, but tikiwiki gives me the following message : The requested URL /tikiwiki/tiki-import_phpwiki.php was not found on this server [16:36]
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mycomputerah : I found this http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mod%20import-phpwiki&structure=Documentation :) [16:38]
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SEWilco2"appropirate outputs" - Arrr. [16:41]
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SEWilco2Which TW slideshow theme is he using for his slides? I don't recognize which one has such a banner. [16:43]
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SEWilco2The last TW training session I did, I used TW slides, so I could add them to site documentation as a training tool. [16:48]
marclaporteis sound ok on ustream? [16:51]
luci-tikifestSEWilco2: it's probably openoffice presentation
marclaporte: yep, great !
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marclaporteok, excellent [16:52]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16983 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]tracker: sorry rollback to 16957(test on item caetgory perm is not ready) + put the test null date [16:53]
luci-tikifestit's getting dark here and quality of my webcam is bad so i think i'll stop my broadcasting back now ;) [16:55]
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xavipolom [16:57]
luci-tikifesthey xavi :) [16:57]
xavihey, luci, distant participants! ;-)
luci-tikifest ... and nice, it seems alain showing phpunit in action....
well, it is alain (I could see him also )
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luci-tikifestxavi: will you join me with your quickcam ? [17:02]
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xaviI'll do my best :-)
btw, congratulations for the person with the camera recording....
video and audio quality is very good!
s/is/are
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luci-tikifestit's gary [17:09]
amettewith a camcorder [17:10]
luci-tikifesta pity he's not in this channel
busy with shooting ;)
bbl
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xavihey amette, what are you doing writing here... aren't you listening to Alain? ;-)
congrats to Gary, then :-)
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amettehi xavi
I'm waiting for my svn checkout to finish that's why I'm typing...
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xavi:-) [17:16]
amette... now it's again the other way around - svn finished, not listening to alain any more - working on my stuff.. ;) [17:16]
xaviwhen is your talk? [17:16]
amettenext week on friday... [17:21]
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nylothHi all :) [17:24]
xavihi nyloth
are you in Montreal?
[17:25]
nylothyes
are you watching us through ustream ?
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xavioh well, there are many faces which I can't recognize, anyway.... [17:25]
nyloth:) [17:26]
xaviyes, I?m the other one shown in http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live
as distant participantys
oups lang. changed to French for a while....
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nylothok [17:27]
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luciashmay i suggest something ? [17:28]
nylothluciash: see the topic ;) [17:28]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16984 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] changed double div tag at the end of the templates tiki-workspaces_admin.tpl tiki-workspaces_roles.tpl and tiki-workspaces_types.tpl [17:28]
luciashif there are two projectors at the cgcom maybe one could be used to project in pararel the irc chat window from someone's laptop so people at the tikifest can read what distant participants chat about
nyloth: i asked ;)
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xaviluciash, that's a good idea (if not for this meeting, for next meetings) [17:30]
luciashhihi [17:30]
nylothluciash: this afternoon it will be possible [17:30]
luciashcool
nyloth: great to have you there :)
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nyloththx [17:33]
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nylothluciash: it's jsut because my plane did'nt crash this time ;p [17:33]
SEWilco2The audio is weak. Did someone's mic fall off? [17:34]
xavirlopez_: welcome! :-) [17:34]
rlopez_hi [17:34]
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rlopez_i just did a commit right now! [17:34]
xaviyou've just fixed three files on aulawiki... :-)
yes, we saw it...
[17:34]
rlopez_:D
learning php, you know
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xavi:-) [17:35]
nylothSEWilco2: Gary is having a look at the sound ;) [17:35]
xaviyou might be interested in hearing to ALain on his talk about phpunit [17:35]
luciashand maybe we point people to #tikifest to not confuse users coming for help here with messages from tikifest [17:35]
xaviat http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009
(live right now)
[17:35]
rlopez_it would be nice if someone could update the tar.gz file of mods.tikiwiki.org with all the new stuff
ok
[17:36]
xaviyes, that meeting in Montreal could be a good place to update mods.tw.o
nyloth, do you know who is in charge of mods.tw.o?
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rlopez_nice
i see you xavi
:D
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nylothxavi: in therory... well... me ;p [17:37]
xavimarclaporte told me, but I don't remember
oh, yes... well, then I remembered well...
it was not a 100% innocent question, sorry :-)
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nylothhehe [17:38]
rlopez_i'm receiving the audio and video perfectly
nice t-shirts
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luciashcool, xavi distant participant :) [17:40]
xaviouh, that was much louder mic [17:41]
luciashxavi, do you have audio off [17:41]
xavino, it's far away from me, just in case.... [17:41]
luciashbetter switch it off, it makes some weird noise [17:41]
rlopez_uff something wrong with the mic [17:41]
xaviok [17:41]
SEWilco2I think the mic is far from mouth. There's a lot of background noise. [17:41]
luciashnope but it doubles what xavi hears i think [17:42]
xaviok, much better now... [17:42]
luciashor put on headphones [17:42]
xaviaudio offf [17:42]
luciash*g* [17:45]
rlopez_it's pity i can't be there
i remember the last tikifest in madrid
[17:45]
luciashshhh, seems xavi is in trouble :) [17:46]
rlopez_it was a lot of fun [17:46]
damianbe back on laterz [17:46]
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xavioups....luciash I'm glad you didn't hear me :-) [17:46]
luciashluciash clapping hands together [17:46]
sylvieg:-D [17:46]
luciashLOL [17:46]
SEWilco2Applause is overly loud. [17:46]
xavihi sylvieg! [17:46]
sylviegthanks for xavi + gary - to have the vidddeo on [17:47]
xaviand I bet, luciash that you hardly see me... (it's getting dark here...) [17:47]
SEWilco2It would help the sound if the audience left and all the computers were turned off. :-) [17:47]
luciashxavi: i'll switch my broadcast on just to be with you for a while ;) [17:47]
xavi:-) [17:48]
sylvieg(I have problem to understand the non native speakers ;-) speak slower guys....) [17:48]
xavisylvieg, a pleasure, but the real work nowadays is being done by Gary [17:48]
sylviegyes but without your job ion madrid - it will have never been done
s/wil/would
[17:48]
xavisylvieg, well, thanks... [17:49]
luciashxavi: broadcast started [17:49]
xaviI can't code php, so I do my best to help as (and when) I can [17:49]
rlopez_i see marc
:D
[17:50]
luciashchicken for everyone :-p [17:50]
xavimarclaporte: chicken for me! [17:50]
luciashnot for me ;)
luciash waves like a kid :-p
@xavi
[17:50]
xaviluci, you mihgt feel like a start in an scenario, with all that light on your face...
back in 10 min
[17:53]
luciash*g* [17:54]
SEWilco2SEWilco2 waits for them to cross the Pacific.
The mic right by the bag. No wonder they're rustling.
[17:56]
rlopez_nice super professional mic [17:59]
luciashguillotine t-shirts ;) [18:00]
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rlopez_i'having some problems with the video
:(
[18:03]
luciashsometimes the stream falls off [18:07]
chibaguyI had to restart it to get the new microphone recognized. Sound should be better now.
Also maybe there are random stops for outside reasons; don't know...
[18:09]
xavihi chibaguy
back
[18:10]
luciashwb
great
yep, i think the sounds is better now
chibaguy: great work with the camera
chibaguy: you're recording the clips right ?
[18:11]
chibaguyheh, thanks. it's fun,
Yeah, most is recorded.
[18:12]
luciashxavi and others... what do you think, should we all (who is interested in tikifest) move to #tikifest and change the chat module so or stay here ? [18:13]
xavithere is no much activity in the tikiwiki channel right now... I would say to stay.... [18:13]
luciashokay
amette: you look like real guerilla in da cap and red something on t-shirt ;)
[18:13]
chibaguyShould this random conversation be recorded as a clip? [18:15]
xavias a "random clip"? [18:15]
luciashheheh [18:15]
xavifor randomly interested readers??? [18:15]
chibaguyok, record started. [18:16]
xaviwell, this looks like chatting for fun (social conversation).... [18:16]
luciashchibaguy: you can make some "people in action" clips and then you can put the best together in a video editor ;) [18:16]
SEWilco2Mutter more loudly. [18:16]
luciashthis looks like chat before lunch ;) [18:16]
SEWilco2Is #tikifest a registered channel, or should it be ##tikifest? [18:17]
chibaguyyou guessed it. ;-) [18:17]
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chibaguyheh, I don't have much video editing skill [18:18]
xavichibaguy: neither did I two weeks ago... :-) [18:18]
luciashit would be fun if more "distant participants" streamed on http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live
oui-oui :)
[18:19]
xaviand see all the crap I was able to produce... http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMadrid_videos [18:19]
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chibaguyThe recorded clips from here so far are at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tikifests [18:25]
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ametteluciash: *G* :D
but yeah, that's true - with the red stuff on the shirt ;)
I thought of somehow I look familiar on the stream - but then I decided that it's because it's me :P
but I think your theory makes more sense ;)
[18:28]
luciashtime for a cup of coffee ?
amette: *g*
[18:29]
ametteluciash: no, not moving to #tikifest - this is for all the community, so we do it here ( I think #tikifest is a good idea for planning stuff beforehand that's not important for everyone, like accomodation and so on, but not for the fest itself ) [18:29]
luciashnow i see you closely, bro ;) [18:29]
amettecup of coffe... yeah, still having a bit of coke here, but soon
uh, true
[18:29]
luciashzoomed-out again ;) [18:30]
amettephew ;) [18:30]
SEWilco2luci, you changed.
luciash is twins.
[18:31]
chibaguyI turned off the recording a while ago; enough randomness for now, I suppose. [18:32]
amettechibaguy: yup, sounds reasonable ;) [18:32]
SEWilco2chibaguy: Well, we don't know how many others are recording. Probably less than the 10 viewers. [18:32]
chibaguyI wouldn't think the current show needs to be preserved. [18:33]
xaviwhat was his name?
the guy talking at the tikifest, Imean
hey, lph is there also! :-)
[18:35]
chibaguyAlain, about the testing? [18:36]
luciashamette: good idea with the cap ;) [18:39]
xavichibaguy, no I mean that guy saying that he was interested in (or experienced with) social networking...
with short beard...
close to the door of the room
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SEWilco2SEWilco2 eats. [18:53]
luci-tikifestdrinks [18:53]
chibaguyoh sorry, I'll check. time to eat now. [18:53]
luci-tikifestluci-tikifest drinks coffee
and codes
*g*
[18:53]
chibaguyhe's sebatian
sebastian
[18:54]
xaviah, thanks, chibaguy
don't you go to eat?
[18:57]
luci-tikifesti really hope later on we can get some feedback via IRC to the tikifesters if it will become projected [18:57]
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luci-tikifestnow if a thief comes, we can see him collecting all of these laptops from the table ;) [19:03]
marclaportehehe
luciash: : when Nelson gets here, please do remind us
[19:04]
luci-tikifestdo we have cssmenus on 2.2 ?
luci-tikifest is backporting thenews.css changes from trunk
[19:05]
xavisylvieg woul.d know about cssmenus on 2.2 [19:10]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16985 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/jquery/ (134 files in 11 dirs): [NEW] Additional plugins for JQuery - autocomplete, superfish (effects on suckerfish CSS menus) and reflection [19:10]
luci-tikifestLOL [19:10]
sylviegxavi: surely a little broken if you do not work on the css [19:10]
luci-tikifestyes, we have [19:11]
SEWilco2Someone needs to donate a web-controllable camera rotator. [19:11]
xavisylvieg, it's not me but luciash asking [19:11]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16986 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/jquery/jquery-tiki-readme.txt: [DOC] Readme about JQuery in Tiki [19:11]
SEWilco2We can hope some of the tangle of cables are security cables. [19:12]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16987 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Prefs & admin toggles for JQ autocomplete etc [19:13]
luci-tikifestSEWilco2: heh [19:13]
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SEWilco2luci's and xavi's streams will be particularly puzzling for random ustream visitors. No audio, reactions not connected to anything. [19:13]
luci-tikifestviva jonny :)
SEWilco2: we're titled "Distant Participants", if anybody can read that... :-p
[19:13]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16988 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Implement JQ autocomplete for QuickEdit module (so far) [19:15]
xavigo, jonny, go! [19:15]
SEWilco2luci-tikifest: I was referring to people who find your streams on ustream's site. [19:20]
luci-tikifestSEWilco2: ah, what do you suggest ? [19:24]
xavitime to quit. See you [19:26]
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SEWilco2luci-tikifest: Just an observation. Don't know if a suggestion is needed. [19:26]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16989 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js templates/header_jquery.tpl): [NEW] Superfish CSS menu effects (did more with less - that time! :) [19:37]
SEWilco2Did I miss the Closing Ceremony? [19:37]
wikimanYup, they gave you a big award, but you were gone. [19:38]
luci-tikifestnope, imho it should continue soon [19:38]
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luci-tikifest*g* [19:39]
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SEWilco2wikiman: I knew I should have been recording! [19:39]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16990 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (12 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16976 to 16983 [19:43]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16991 10/branches/2.0/styles/thenews.css: [FIX] thenews.css: backport of fixes and enhancements from trunk [20:01]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03sewilco * r16992 10/trunk/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: [BUG] fix reversed hit tally test on a gallery. [20:28]
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chibaguyStreaming back up. Sorry for the downtime.
Nothing going on in this room anyway.
Next door there is a conference call regarding TikiWiki as a term database for natural languages.
[20:39]
SEWilco2A natural semantic web repository? [20:41]
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chibaguySomething like that. I don't know any details.
chibaguy skipped session to talk with nyloth about css, etc.
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r16993 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] icons: since themes could have their own icons, empty the icon cache when the theme has changed (thx chibaguy) [20:57]
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ametteluciash: can you create a header image for sysadm.tw.o please? [21:12]
hummm... regression in Tiki3.0 - "WARNING: Plugin disabled toc!" - not so cool... :(
actually that's a _really_ bad one as toc isn't even a plugin afaik
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luciashre
amette: yup, i'll send it to you
[21:28]
amettethanks, bro :) [21:29]
luciashamette: plugins can have same syntax as {something} now and there's some admin page to enable them iirc [21:29]
amettehmmm... ok... I only found Plugin Aliases - but that doesn't seem to be it... [21:30]
luciashluciash wonders too where it is now, ah, the "when you cannot find it it's in Admin > Textarea" page ;)
chibaguy: conference call ?
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luciashamette: sysadm.tw.o is up already ?
btw, what colour and what should it be about ?
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ametteok, it was broken because after the upgrade the Structures feature of the wiki was disabled - for what reason ever... :O
yep, that's tiki 3.0 since one hour
"TikiWiki SysAdmins' Workspace" as the HomePage says..
... and color - well.. dunno.. take something that isn't taken yet..
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amette... green perhaps? ;) [21:38]
luciashcouldn't we shorten it to admin.tw.o ? [21:39]
amettethat is also a psychologically calming color - sysadmins need that :P
nope, not really - admin is something else than sysadmin in our community
Sysadmin is actually even shorter than developers ;)
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luciashi can't see the homepage probably because the dns change hasn't come to me yet ;) [21:39]
ametteaaah... yes, I didn't do the DNS-change yet... :P
78.46.199.148
^- for your /etc/hosts ;)
[21:39]
luciashbut sysadm looks weird and must be shifted up because of thy "y" :-p
thank you
what about sa.tw.o as a shortcut ?
or i will omit the reflection in this case
[21:40]
ametteah, THAT part you mean!!!
humm... well, the lower part of the y can be behind the long string, not?
[21:42]
luciashinfo.tw.o is green, i'll make it black ;) [21:43]
ametteah, damn... ;)
how about purple?
[21:43]
luciashwhat about the broadcast ? [21:44]
amettewhat is with it? [21:45]
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luciashdoesn't stream ? [21:45]
ametteworks here - perhaps you need to restart it - sometimes it breaks [21:45]
luciashah, it's back again [21:45]
chibaguySorry, my laptop got overwhelmed and choked, I think.
So I shut down some things and started the streaming again.
[21:46]
luciashbbl
i'll send the logo then
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16994 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX]theme: to have wysiwyg when changing theme [21:51]
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chibaguy2Heh, sorry again, stream back up. [21:51]
sylviegthx chibaguy2 [21:53]
chibaguy2I keep forgetting the video stream depends on my web browser. [21:54]
sylvieg:-) [21:54]
chibaguy2Can you get something interesting out of this small talk? [21:55]
sylviegwith dimdim did we have the opportunity for distant to speak...
this morning was perfect chibaguy2 - thx a lot
[21:55]
luciashre again
amette: you can choose purple, dark red or dark grey
[21:55]
sylvieg(this afternoon I did not have the sound because as usual skype stole my sound control - it it was my fault) [21:56]
chibaguy2Oh good. Some parts are recorded and on our ustream page. I'll put the links on the tw.o page. [21:56]
sylviegchibaguy2: I fixed the wyiwyg change theme [21:56]
chibaguy2yes, nyloth told me. thanks. [21:57]
nkoth3eh, hi
I jsut got settled in - just arrived in Montreal
[21:58]
luciashhey nelson
cool
[21:58]
sylvieghi nelson [21:58]
chibaguy2nkoth3, review the video clips to see what you missed.;-)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tikifests
[21:58]
nylothhi nkoth3 :) [22:00]
nkoth3hi
cool. i can see
[22:00]
ametteluciash: hmmm, then I think either purple or dark red... though dark grey sounds pretty cool, too...
luciash: what do you think?
perhaps purple? as red is already on dev.tw.o !?
[22:02]
nkoth3hi sylvieg, I hear your voice on ustream [22:04]
sylviegit is not mine... [22:04]
nkoth3imust be lag
or maybe I am looking at archive - let me see
[22:04]
amettesome other girl just appeared here - slyvie's sadly not here [22:04]
chibaguy2Voice is Marta, I believe. Associate of Alain. [22:05]
sylviegwe can not speak.... [22:05]
nkoth3i see [22:06]
sylvieghas somebody experience with dimdim - I am pretty sure that distant people will be able to speak [22:09]
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SEWilco2I don't know if dimdim allows multiple speakers. Probably, if it's just streaming all the Flash streams. [22:21]
chibaguy2I just read that it allows conferences of up to 20 people... [22:22]
sylviegmy next computer is a mac - tired to look after driver for my fedora [22:22]
SEWilco2{IFRAME(...)}tiki-slideshow_file_gallery.php?fileId="9+10"{IFRAME} is losing the stuff after "=" for some reason. [22:22]
chibaguy2We were talking to a perl programmer in Oregon who really likes his mac.
All the tools he likes...
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SEWilco2sylvieg: I have an HP Pavilion dv9000. All seems OK under Ubuntu Intrepid. Had to load something special for WiFi, but I see comments that it's supposedly fixed in recent Intrepid.
Well, yeah, macs are nice now that they're Unix.
[22:24]
nkoth3what time will you guys stay at CGCOM till tonight?
and what time are you starting tomorrow?
[22:27]
chibaguy2nkoth3, we're waiting for you, I believe. :-) [22:27]
SEWilco2Oh, TW 3 has an April release date? [22:27]
chibaguy2Are you intending to come here?
(tonight?)
SEWilco2, yes.
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amettesylvieg: nyloth and I just found out that user_has_perm_on_object doesn't check for structure permissions...
... and we really need you to find a decent solution.. :)
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sylviegstrucutre permission ? this kind od stuff exists? [22:33]
amettenyloth just found a good workaround... one moment...
well, yes and no... ;)
lib/wiki/renderlib.php - line 149
to make it work we inserted: if ( in_array($navigation_info['home']['pageName'],$allowed_pages_from_structs) || $tikilib->user_has_perm_on_object($this->user,$navigation_info['home']['pageName'],'wiki page','tiki_p_edit','tiki_p_edit_categorized'))
ah and before $allowed_pages_from_structs[] = $t_structs['pageName'];
otherwise a user without tiki_p_admin is not allowed to insert a page into a structure - the input box for it just doesn't get shown
[22:33]
sylviegand what is it - if the strucure header has no perm, the other pages do not have?
strucure main page
[22:35]
ametteyes, all the pages have the right perms [22:36]
sylviegI have no idea what are structures perms - guys [22:36]
amettethere is no such thing as structure perms I think...
... but there is this thing struct_editable which doesn't get set to 'y' although users have the right permissions on the object
http://pastebin.com/m6f5075c6
we added line 19 and added the first part of the check on line 22
I think you understand better when reading code instead of what I'm talking ;)
[22:36]
luciashsylvieg: we tried dimdim with xavi but it was extremely unusable [22:41]
ametteand just found out that our hack really isn't enough... cause it breaks as soon as you try to "Add page"... [22:41]
SEWilco2File gallery slideshow updates every 2 seconds. Seems like a vision test, not a relaxing display. [22:42]
amette... so maybe there is later another check like this, which breaks because of the same reason - we think it should go into the check_object_perms... [22:42]
luciashsylvieg: try ubuntu instead of fedora (drivers are usually well supported) [22:42]
sylvieg:-)
luciash: when you were looking for the ID in svn - did you find something about the year ? (it will solve or copyright dilemma)
[22:44]
luciashsylvieg: unfortunatelly not [22:46]
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luciashamette: what tagline you want there ?
or no tagline ?
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sylvieg(c)2002-2009 by ... with 2009 the year of the last commit [22:49]
luciashsylvieg: i understand you but i don't think it's possible
ah, "TikiWiki SysAdmins' Workspace", ok
[22:51]
ametteluciash: yeah, but could there be something cooler? If it is going to be a "Tagline"... :) [22:54]
SEWilco2sylvieg: Update the instructions for the copyright notice to state that the year should be updated when the file is edited.
SEWilco2 shakes a can of spray paint.
[22:54]
luciashSEWilco2: nobody will follow it ;)
it would be best if we could avoid the year as sylvie suggested
[22:54]
SEWilco2luciash: Well, it might help if that obscure page was copied/linked in a couple more places on dev. It's hard to find.
luciash: Copyright law requires the date in a copyright notice.
[22:55]
sylvieg$LastChangedDate$ will gives the date [22:56]
luciashsylvieg: but it will be there then all
you want there something like "(c) 2002 - $LastChangedDate: 2009 $" ?
[22:56]
SEWilco2The format should be "Copyright 2007 Jane Doe" http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.html [22:58]
sylviegperhaps we can play with svn propset and then I suppose we can disply the property in the file... [22:58]
nylothbye all [22:59]
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amettebye nyloth ;) [23:00]
SEWilco2I asked a lawyer once. "(c)" is not the same as © unless you can persuade a jury. The word "Copyright" is acceptable. [23:01]
ametteyup, (c) doesn't have any legal consequences - but htat way it also doesn't hurt ;) [23:01]
sylviegSEWilco2: did you check the devel list - Michael Rish is a long time tiki user - and a laywer (I help him often - so we can ask him) [23:02]
SEWilco2Having "Copyright (c) 2007 Jane Doe" is not quite the recommended "Copyright 2007 Jane Doe", so (c) might hurt. If (c) were a date then it wouldn't hurt. [23:03]
luciashthere's some echo now [23:04]
SEWilco2Someone's laptop is too close. [23:04]
luciashof the mic and some speakers
yup
:)
[23:04]
sylviegbut the sound was very good today.... [23:05]
SEWilco2Sounded like 2000 Hz, if someone wants to calculate the likely distance to the speaker. [23:05]
sylvieg:-) [23:05]
ametteyeah, chibaguy2 has good equipment :) [23:05]
sylviegnow we need a way to communicate back [23:06]
luciashyep, chibaguy1 has much worse one ;) [23:06]
ametteLOL :P [23:06]
luciash*g*
what about the idea of projecting the IRC channel on the wall for the participants ?
[23:06]
ametteI think we don't have a second projector [23:07]
SEWilco2Someone in the room could run IRC under Orca, so the IRC channel is read aloud.
I don't know if I installed Orca on Ubuntu or if it came installed. Applications > Universal Access > Orca
[23:07]
chibaguy2Sorry about the feedback. You're right, luciash, laptop speaker too close to mic.
SEWilco2, low number of people in the room probably precludes need for calculations. ;-)
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luciashamette: sending you the logo, but i hear you go to have some beer, so, have fun ! [23:09]
amettethanks :) [23:10]
chibaguy2looks like we're leaving here in about 15 minutes.
So the feed will soon die..
I mean stream
[23:10]
sylviegthx so much gary [23:11]
SEWilco2Oh, dear. The copyright symbol is required for international protection. The word "Copyright" is not enough. Required format is © 2007 John Doe
According to the blue text in http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.html#form
[23:11]
luciashwow, some germans there :-) [23:11]
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chibaguy2Sure sylvieg, my pleasure.
Will be back tomorrow 9am Montreal time.
[23:12]
ametteok, bye for now guys [23:15]
luciashbye bye
c u tomorrow bro
[23:15]
amettecu :) [23:16]
sylviegbye [23:16]
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luciashwell, the question is, does the copyright notice has to be in every file ? isn't referring to one copyright.txt enough ?
can one file of a particular Tiki release be expired from LGPL to public domain after some years earlier than the others ?
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sylviegagree with you luciash - it is why I was suprised about the answer - last modif date for each file [23:51]

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