CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16974 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Inconsistent a and a:hover padding caused movement in phpl menu.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16975 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Make hover behavior consistent with other buttons. chibaguy: I wonder if anybody has time to deal with the theme-changing oddness in Look and Feel.
Selecting a new theme should just change the theme, not show the same theme again along with "Note: Theme displayed differs from "site" theme (current theme name)"
Of course it differs, that's the objective of making the switch.
The extra step is confusing and irritating IMHO. ***: navster|afk has quit IRC ()
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fantoms has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) gerbert: i use PluginTracker in wiki for data entry. Upon user submiting the form(action=>Submit), how do i create a new wiki page named from the the user input in one of the tracker fields.
And further how is it possible to add additional info, taken from other tracker field, to the top of new wiki page above the edit area. thanks ***: fantoms has joined #tikiwiki
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ganti has joined #tikiwiki ganti: hi all i am encountering a problem while trying to create a new Wiki page in tikiw
tikiwiki
I enabled 'Quick edit' ' and 'Search wiki PageName' modules in my project
When i enter a name say Requirements in Quick Edit text box a editor is displayed
then i am trying to create a wiki page by giving ((Requirements)) in the editor and tryin g to 'Save' it
i am getting the 'Page not Found' error in 'tiki-editpage.php' file
can anybody help me in this regard?
!help Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . ***: fantoms has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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TikiFest Montréal starts today, yay ! :) ***: ganti has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") luciash: amette: add <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
amette: to the irc chat log output please
amette: it will help at least the messages have proper encoding as i tried to set it manually via firefox menu
amette: i hope you enjoyed your flight and settled down in Montreal properly easily finding your way to cgcom offices, btw :)
you will ;)
when you wake up :-p ***: mib_78yvfb has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
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R|SK has joined #tikiwiki R|SK: Hi everybody, anybody an idea how I coukd realize a feature like webview?
Im mean sth like: "You are here: Home -> page 1 -> page 2" without having to set up a structure? luciash: R|SK: enable breadcrubs
it's not working everywhere but it works... for wiki pages which are not structured you'll get of course only one level R|SK: I have enabled breadcrumps module, but it only shows the list of recently visted pages.
And for unstructured wikipages it shows me nothing. luciash: not the module, the preference on Admin > Look and Feel
it's called Site Location or something R|SK: Ah, found it.
But you are right, for unstructured pages it only shows me main page and the current page, but not the one I came from. :( luciash: if it would work like that, you'd end up with page full of breadcrumbs soon ;) R|SK: You are right.
Anyway, thanks once again. ;) luciash: np :) ***: damian has joined #tikiwiki CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16976 10/trunk/templates/tiki-remind_password.tpl: [FIX] padding by changing the class, removed useless return to homepage ***: lq_443 has joined #tikiwiki lq_443: Hello world...I am having trouble installing wifidog and am unclear where I should ask questions? luciash: lq_443: hi, huh ? what's wifidog ? lq_443: perhaps I have asked the incorrect irc...
sounds like it ***: tomb has left "Ex-Chat"
lq_443 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16977 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (36 files in 11 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16944 to 16976
tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16978 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/lib/workspaces/typeslib.php: [FIX] features/aulawiki/lib/typeslib.php has been changed to list the roles in each workspace correctly
tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16979 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/tiki-workspaces_types_roles.tpl: [FIX] changes in the templates to show the role types correctly ***: rlopez_ has joined #tikiwiki rlopez_: i have already done 2 commits to the Mods branch to solve a bug in aulawiki in 2.2 and 3.0. Pingus and I have tested it and works.
it was something work with the templates
we are trying to push aulawiki into tiki 3.0 sylvieg: I thought the problem of workspaces was because it is was not integrated into tw core - Do you will still work on the mods? ***: rlopez_ has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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GillesMM has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) sylvieg: luciash: ? luciash: yep sylvieg: hello ! so what is the class form
no need to introduce a new class?
we have formcolor - but not form - so far I know luciash: ./styles/tikineat.css:512:.form td { -: sylvieg is dreaming about a day where we can put an explanation near all the classes luciash: so we need to introduce it only for the other styles
can be empty for now, but sounds more logical to me when the table contains form to call the table's class form than normal sylvieg: seems tikineat is the only one with form td the others are td.form ... what a mess
yes I will go for an empty class luciash: maybe we could even get rid of the table there
thanks
yep, a mess, we have to fix it soon with gary ;) sylvieg: the more detailled is <table whatever> .. <td class="formlabel> <td class="formcontent" ...
but the table is useless.... + 1 for that luciash: +1 sylvieg: otherwise a formacontent width 100% to stick the label
we really need a minimum css file that represent common sense like table.normal 100%, td.formcontent 100% ... ***: luci has joined #tikiwiki
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mib_78yvfb has joined #tikiwiki CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16981 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/ (128 files in 24 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16810 to 16980 ***: luci has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") sylvieg: luciash: copyright - I though we will do a file copyright and a reference to this file to close the problem to redo each year
means that we delete the line c 2002-.... in each file luciash: yep, seems like a good idea CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16982 10/branches/experimental/annotation/ (608 files in 113 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16229 to 16949 amette: luciash: hi :) ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki amette: There is currently iso-8859-1 in the scripts... luciash: good morning amette ! :) amette: ( and it's not like I would be writing templates there... ;) )
good afternoon bro ;) luciash: salut marc :)
it's compiled in ? you cannot change that in a config/template ?
amette: ^ amette: it's bash-scripts and you have to change every single one - and it's not templated, yes...
... I just saw two different places in one script where there is iso-8859-1 set... ***: navster_ is now known as navster|zzz amette: ... if I just run sed over it and change it to utf-8 =
s/=/? luciash: bash script, so there must be that piece of code which generates the html output head somewhere amette: that's what I said ;) luciash: might be good idea :)
but this output have even no meta charset i think
so maybe search for <head> abnd just add it there...
what hour does the tikifest officialy start ? how was the flight ?
:) amette: sed done
flight was great - tikifest is up and running
just got WiFi and now starting to hack on the servers (though I didn't plan to start with irc.tw.o ;) ) luciash: w00t, i hear you !
where's the damn tab !
:D amette: hear me? I get paranoid... :P
I see you! ;) luciash: i hear you guys on tikifest and now even see you :-p
(found the tab :D)
i'll join you, just a mom ;) amette: :) luciash: i'm broadcasting now :) ***: navster|zzz is now known as navster luciash: do you have sound there ? ***: luci has joined #tikiwiki luci: hello to tikifest at cgcom ! amette: my bro is schizophrenic luci: nice logo :) who is the man behind camera ?
or woman :-p ***: sylviegg has joined #tikiwiki luci: heh, yup, i'm lazy... this chat embedded in wiki page is more close than my irssi console :-p ***: sylviegg has quit IRC (Client Quit) sylvieg: the sound is better than in madrid - +1 to whoever did it luci: yup, definitely, just someone is tapping on the mic ;) ***: luci is now known as luci-tikifest luciash: amette: what do you think about the ctype functions not on gentoo php by default ? amette: nothing particular - it's optional and that's a good thing to be true to the gentoo philosophy - it's 6 ascii characters in a file - fair enough imho :) luciash: yep, but when you upgrade to tiki 3 it will break your site until you recompile it with it ***: luci-tikifest has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") luciash: hi jyhem ! :)
oh, now we're off air amette: we see it here still... luciash: ah, now it's back ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki
lq_563 has joined #tikiwiki luciash: cool, gary is da man behind the camera :) amette: yup, yup :) ***: lq_563 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC")
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luci-tikifest has joined #tikiwiki luci-tikifest: please use irc to chat at tikifest so everyone sees the same
i'll disable the chat on ustream.tv, the tikiwiki channel is on the show page now ***: test has joined #tikiwiki
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Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki luci-tikifest: wow, that's colorful presentation :) ***: mib_ynu5p8 has quit IRC (Client Quit) damian: who is in view of the camera ? luci-tikifest: gary is behind the camera damian: haha Tiki T-shirts :) mycomputer: Hello everyone. Where can I find tiki-import_phpwiki.php ? SEWilco2: What's the URL for the camera? luci-tikifest: heheh, someone loves testing at tikifest ;) damian: http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/523448 luci-tikifest: SEWilco2: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live SEWilco2: mycomputer: I don't see tiki-import_phpwiki.php anywhere in my system. Maybe it's part of a mod which I don't have installed. mycomputer: SEWilco1 : OK. I actived/install it in admin mods, but tikiwiki gives me the following message : The requested URL /tikiwiki/tiki-import_phpwiki.php was not found on this server ***: SEWilco9 has joined #tikiwiki mycomputer: ah : I found this http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mod%20import-phpwiki&structure=Documentation :) ***: R|SK has left
marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) SEWilco2: "appropirate outputs" - Arrr. ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki SEWilco2: Which TW slideshow theme is he using for his slides? I don't recognize which one has such a banner. ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away SEWilco2: The last TW training session I did, I used TW slides, so I could add them to site documentation as a training tool. marclaporte: is sound ok on ustream? luci-tikifest: SEWilco2: it's probably openoffice presentation
marclaporte: yep, great ! marclaporte: ok, excellent ***: GillesMM has joined #tikiwiki CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16983 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]tracker: sorry rollback to 16957(test on item caetgory perm is not ready) + put the test null date luci-tikifest: it's getting dark here and quality of my webcam is bad so i think i'll stop my broadcasting back now ;) ***: GillesMM has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
xavi has joined #tikiwiki xavi: polom luci-tikifest: hey xavi :) xavi: hey, luci, distant participants! ;-)
luci-tikifest ... and nice, it seems alain showing phpunit in action....
well, it is alain (I could see him also ) luci-tikifest: xavi: will you join me with your quickcam ? ***: Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) xavi: I'll do my best :-)
btw, congratulations for the person with the camera recording....
video and audio quality is very good!
s/is/are luci-tikifest: it's gary amette: with a camcorder luci-tikifest: a pity he's not in this channel
busy with shooting ;)
bbl ***: luci-tikifest has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") xavi: hey amette, what are you doing writing here... aren't you listening to Alain? ;-)
congrats to Gary, then :-) amette: hi xavi
I'm waiting for my svn checkout to finish that's why I'm typing... xavi: :-) amette: ... now it's again the other way around - svn finished, not listening to alain any more - working on my stuff.. ;) xavi: when is your talk? amette: next week on friday... ***: nyloth has joined #tikiwiki nyloth: Hi all :) xavi: hi nyloth
are you in Montreal? nyloth: yes
are you watching us through ustream ? xavi: oh well, there are many faces which I can't recognize, anyway.... nyloth: :) xavi: yes, I?m the other one shown in http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live
as distant participantys
oups lang. changed to French for a while.... nyloth: ok ***: xavi has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
xavi has joined #tikiwiki luciash: may i suggest something ? nyloth: luciash: see the topic ;) CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03rlopezs * r16984 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] changed double div tag at the end of the templates tiki-workspaces_admin.tpl tiki-workspaces_roles.tpl and tiki-workspaces_types.tpl luciash: if there are two projectors at the cgcom maybe one could be used to project in pararel the irc chat window from someone's laptop so people at the tikifest can read what distant participants chat about
nyloth: i asked ;) xavi: luciash, that's a good idea (if not for this meeting, for next meetings) luciash: hihi nyloth: luciash: this afternoon it will be possible luciash: cool
nyloth: great to have you there :) nyloth: thx ***: rlopez_ has joined #tikiwiki nyloth: luciash: it's jsut because my plane did'nt crash this time ;p SEWilco2: The audio is weak. Did someone's mic fall off? xavi: rlopez_: welcome! :-) rlopez_: hi ***: SEWilco9 has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") rlopez_: i just did a commit right now! xavi: you've just fixed three files on aulawiki... :-)
yes, we saw it... rlopez_: :D
learning php, you know xavi: :-) nyloth: SEWilco2: Gary is having a look at the sound ;) xavi: you might be interested in hearing to ALain on his talk about phpunit luciash: and maybe we point people to #tikifest to not confuse users coming for help here with messages from tikifest xavi: at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009
(live right now) rlopez_: it would be nice if someone could update the tar.gz file of mods.tikiwiki.org with all the new stuff
ok xavi: yes, that meeting in Montreal could be a good place to update mods.tw.o
nyloth, do you know who is in charge of mods.tw.o? rlopez_: nice
i see you xavi
:D nyloth: xavi: in therory... well... me ;p xavi: marclaporte told me, but I don't remember
oh, yes... well, then I remembered well...
it was not a 100% innocent question, sorry :-) nyloth: hehe rlopez_: i'm receiving the audio and video perfectly
nice t-shirts luciash: cool, xavi distant participant :) xavi: ouh, that was much louder mic luciash: xavi, do you have audio off xavi: no, it's far away from me, just in case.... luciash: better switch it off, it makes some weird noise rlopez_: uff something wrong with the mic xavi: ok SEWilco2: I think the mic is far from mouth. There's a lot of background noise. luciash: nope but it doubles what xavi hears i think xavi: ok, much better now... luciash: or put on headphones xavi: audio offf luciash: *g* rlopez_: it's pity i can't be there
i remember the last tikifest in madrid luciash: shhh, seems xavi is in trouble :) rlopez_: it was a lot of fun damian: be back on laterz ***: damian has quit IRC (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D") xavi: oups....luciash I'm glad you didn't hear me :-) -: luciash clapping hands together sylvieg: :-D luciash: LOL SEWilco2: Applause is overly loud. xavi: hi sylvieg! sylvieg: thanks for xavi + gary - to have the vidddeo on xavi: and I bet, luciash that you hardly see me... (it's getting dark here...) SEWilco2: It would help the sound if the audience left and all the computers were turned off. :-) luciash: xavi: i'll switch my broadcast on just to be with you for a while ;) xavi: :-) sylvieg: (I have problem to understand the non native speakers ;-) speak slower guys....) xavi: sylvieg, a pleasure, but the real work nowadays is being done by Gary sylvieg: yes but without your job ion madrid - it will have never been done
s/wil/would xavi: sylvieg, well, thanks... luciash: xavi: broadcast started xavi: I can't code php, so I do my best to help as (and when) I can rlopez_: i see marc
:D luciash: chicken for everyone :-p xavi: marclaporte: chicken for me! luciash: not for me ;) -: luciash waves like a kid :-p luciash: @xavi xavi: luci, you mihgt feel like a start in an scenario, with all that light on your face...
back in 10 min luciash: *g* -: SEWilco2 waits for them to cross the Pacific. SEWilco2: The mic right by the bag. No wonder they're rustling. rlopez_: nice super professional mic luciash: guillotine t-shirts ;) ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki rlopez_: i'having some problems with the video
:( luciash: sometimes the stream falls off chibaguy: I had to restart it to get the new microphone recognized. Sound should be better now.
Also maybe there are random stops for outside reasons; don't know... xavi: hi chibaguy
back luciash: wb
great
yep, i think the sounds is better now
chibaguy: great work with the camera
chibaguy: you're recording the clips right ? chibaguy: heh, thanks. it's fun,
Yeah, most is recorded. luciash: xavi and others... what do you think, should we all (who is interested in tikifest) move to #tikifest and change the chat module so or stay here ? xavi: there is no much activity in the tikiwiki channel right now... I would say to stay.... luciash: okay
amette: you look like real guerilla in da cap and red something on t-shirt ;) chibaguy: Should this random conversation be recorded as a clip? xavi: as a "random clip"? luciash: heheh xavi: for randomly interested readers??? chibaguy: ok, record started. xavi: well, this looks like chatting for fun (social conversation).... luciash: chibaguy: you can make some "people in action" clips and then you can put the best together in a video editor ;) SEWilco2: Mutter more loudly. luciash: this looks like chat before lunch ;) SEWilco2: Is #tikifest a registered channel, or should it be ##tikifest? chibaguy: you guessed it. ;-) ***: rlopez_ has quit IRC ("Leaving") chibaguy: heh, I don't have much video editing skill xavi: chibaguy: neither did I two weeks ago... :-) luciash: it would be fun if more "distant participants" streamed on http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live
oui-oui :) xavi: and see all the crap I was able to produce... http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMadrid_videos ***: luci-tikifest has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: The recorded clips from here so far are at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tikifests ***: luci-tikifest has quit IRC (Client Quit)
navster has quit IRC ("getting some furry loving") amette: luciash: *G* :D
but yeah, that's true - with the red stuff on the shirt ;)
I thought of somehow I look familiar on the stream - but then I decided that it's because it's me :P
but I think your theory makes more sense ;) luciash: time for a cup of coffee ?
amette: *g* amette: luciash: no, not moving to #tikifest - this is for all the community, so we do it here ( I think #tikifest is a good idea for planning stuff beforehand that's not important for everyone, like accomodation and so on, but not for the fest itself ) luciash: now i see you closely, bro ;) amette: cup of coffe... yeah, still having a bit of coke here, but soon
uh, true luciash: zoomed-out again ;) amette: phew ;) SEWilco2: luci, you changed.
luciash is twins. chibaguy: I turned off the recording a while ago; enough randomness for now, I suppose. amette: chibaguy: yup, sounds reasonable ;) SEWilco2: chibaguy: Well, we don't know how many others are recording. Probably less than the 10 viewers. chibaguy: I wouldn't think the current show needs to be preserved. xavi: what was his name?
the guy talking at the tikifest, Imean
hey, lph is there also! :-) chibaguy: Alain, about the testing? luciash: amette: good idea with the cap ;) xavi: chibaguy, no I mean that guy saying that he was interested in (or experienced with) social networking...
with short beard...
close to the door of the room ***: luci-tikifest has joined #tikiwiki -: SEWilco2 eats. luci-tikifest: drinks chibaguy: oh sorry, I'll check. time to eat now. -: luci-tikifest drinks coffee luci-tikifest: and codes
*g* chibaguy: he's sebatian
sebastian xavi: ah, thanks, chibaguy
don't you go to eat? luci-tikifest: i really hope later on we can get some feedback via IRC to the tikifesters if it will become projected ***: Amorphous has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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luciash: : when Nelson gets here, please do remind us luci-tikifest: do we have cssmenus on 2.2 ? -: luci-tikifest is backporting thenews.css changes from trunk xavi: sylvieg woul.d know about cssmenus on 2.2 CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16985 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/jquery/ (134 files in 11 dirs): [NEW] Additional plugins for JQuery - autocomplete, superfish (effects on suckerfish CSS menus) and reflection luci-tikifest: LOL sylvieg: xavi: surely a little broken if you do not work on the css luci-tikifest: yes, we have SEWilco2: Someone needs to donate a web-controllable camera rotator. xavi: sylvieg, it's not me but luciash asking CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16986 10/branches/experimental/jquery/lib/jquery/jquery-tiki-readme.txt: [DOC] Readme about JQuery in Tiki SEWilco2: We can hope some of the tangle of cables are security cables. CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16987 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Prefs & admin toggles for JQ autocomplete etc luci-tikifest: SEWilco2: heh ***: LiquidApe has joined #tikiwiki SEWilco2: luci's and xavi's streams will be particularly puzzling for random ustream visitors. No audio, reactions not connected to anything. luci-tikifest: viva jonny :)
SEWilco2: we're titled "Distant Participants", if anybody can read that... :-p CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16988 10/branches/experimental/jquery/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Implement JQ autocomplete for QuickEdit module (so far) xavi: go, jonny, go! SEWilco2: luci-tikifest: I was referring to people who find your streams on ustream's site. luci-tikifest: SEWilco2: ah, what do you suggest ? xavi: time to quit. See you ***: xavi has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") SEWilco2: luci-tikifest: Just an observation. Don't know if a suggestion is needed. ***: wikiman has joined #tikiwiki
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chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Streaming back up. Sorry for the downtime.
Nothing going on in this room anyway.
Next door there is a conference call regarding TikiWiki as a term database for natural languages. SEWilco2: A natural semantic web repository? ***: wikiman has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") chibaguy: Something like that. I don't know any details. -: chibaguy skipped session to talk with nyloth about css, etc. CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r16993 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] icons: since themes could have their own icons, empty the icon cache when the theme has changed (thx chibaguy) ***: Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie amette: luciash: can you create a header image for sysadm.tw.o please?
hummm... regression in Tiki3.0 - "WARNING: Plugin disabled toc!" - not so cool... :(
actually that's a _really_ bad one as toc isn't even a plugin afaik ***: mib_va3rer has joined #tikiwiki
mib_va3rer has quit IRC (Client Quit) luciash: re
amette: yup, i'll send it to you amette: thanks, bro :) luciash: amette: plugins can have same syntax as {something} now and there's some admin page to enable them iirc amette: hmmm... ok... I only found Plugin Aliases - but that doesn't seem to be it... -: luciash wonders too where it is now, ah, the "when you cannot find it it's in Admin > Textarea" page ;) luciash: chibaguy: conference call ? ***: chibaguy has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") luciash: amette: sysadm.tw.o is up already ?
btw, what colour and what should it be about ? amette: ok, it was broken because after the upgrade the Structures feature of the wiki was disabled - for what reason ever... :O
yep, that's tiki 3.0 since one hour
"TikiWiki SysAdmins' Workspace" as the HomePage says..
... and color - well.. dunno.. take something that isn't taken yet.. ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki amette: ... green perhaps? ;) luciash: couldn't we shorten it to admin.tw.o ? amette: that is also a psychologically calming color - sysadmins need that :P
nope, not really - admin is something else than sysadmin in our community
Sysadmin is actually even shorter than developers ;) luciash: i can't see the homepage probably because the dns change hasn't come to me yet ;) amette: aaah... yes, I didn't do the DNS-change yet... :P
78.46.199.148
^- for your /etc/hosts ;) luciash: but sysadm looks weird and must be shifted up because of thy "y" :-p
thank you
what about sa.tw.o as a shortcut ?
or i will omit the reflection in this case amette: ah, THAT part you mean!!!
humm... well, the lower part of the y can be behind the long string, not? luciash: info.tw.o is green, i'll make it black ;) amette: ah, damn... ;)
how about purple? luciash: what about the broadcast ? amette: what is with it? ***: rpg has quit IRC () luciash: doesn't stream ? amette: works here - perhaps you need to restart it - sometimes it breaks luciash: ah, it's back again chibaguy: Sorry, my laptop got overwhelmed and choked, I think.
So I shut down some things and started the streaming again. luciash: bbl
i'll send the logo then ***: nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16994 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX]theme: to have wysiwyg when changing theme ***: chibaguy2 has joined #tikiwiki
chibaguy has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") chibaguy2: Heh, sorry again, stream back up. sylvieg: thx chibaguy2 chibaguy2: I keep forgetting the video stream depends on my web browser. sylvieg: :-) chibaguy2: Can you get something interesting out of this small talk? sylvieg: with dimdim did we have the opportunity for distant to speak...
this morning was perfect chibaguy2 - thx a lot luciash: re again
amette: you can choose purple, dark red or dark grey sylvieg: (this afternoon I did not have the sound because as usual skype stole my sound control - it it was my fault) chibaguy2: Oh good. Some parts are recorded and on our ustream page. I'll put the links on the tw.o page. sylvieg: chibaguy2: I fixed the wyiwyg change theme chibaguy2: yes, nyloth told me. thanks. nkoth3: eh, hi
I jsut got settled in - just arrived in Montreal luciash: hey nelson
cool sylvieg: hi nelson chibaguy2: nkoth3, review the video clips to see what you missed.;-)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tikifests nyloth: hi nkoth3 :) nkoth3: hi
cool. i can see amette: luciash: hmmm, then I think either purple or dark red... though dark grey sounds pretty cool, too...
luciash: what do you think?
perhaps purple? as red is already on dev.tw.o !? nkoth3: hi sylvieg, I hear your voice on ustream sylvieg: it is not mine... nkoth3: imust be lag
or maybe I am looking at archive - let me see amette: some other girl just appeared here - slyvie's sadly not here chibaguy2: Voice is Marta, I believe. Associate of Alain. sylvieg: we can not speak.... nkoth3: i see sylvieg: has somebody experience with dimdim - I am pretty sure that distant people will be able to speak ***: omstefanov has joined #tikiwiki SEWilco2: I don't know if dimdim allows multiple speakers. Probably, if it's just streaming all the Flash streams. chibaguy2: I just read that it allows conferences of up to 20 people... sylvieg: my next computer is a mac - tired to look after driver for my fedora SEWilco2: {IFRAME(...)}tiki-slideshow_file_gallery.php?fileId="9+10"{IFRAME} is losing the stuff after "=" for some reason. chibaguy2: We were talking to a perl programmer in Oregon who really likes his mac.
All the tools he likes... ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away
cnd has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) SEWilco2: sylvieg: I have an HP Pavilion dv9000. All seems OK under Ubuntu Intrepid. Had to load something special for WiFi, but I see comments that it's supposedly fixed in recent Intrepid.
Well, yeah, macs are nice now that they're Unix. nkoth3: what time will you guys stay at CGCOM till tonight?
and what time are you starting tomorrow? chibaguy2: nkoth3, we're waiting for you, I believe. :-) SEWilco2: Oh, TW 3 has an April release date? chibaguy2: Are you intending to come here?
(tonight?)
SEWilco2, yes. ***: cnd has joined #tikiwiki
cnd has left amette: sylvieg: nyloth and I just found out that user_has_perm_on_object doesn't check for structure permissions...
... and we really need you to find a decent solution.. :) sylvieg: strucutre permission ? this kind od stuff exists? amette: nyloth just found a good workaround... one moment...
well, yes and no... ;)
lib/wiki/renderlib.php - line 149
to make it work we inserted: if ( in_array($navigation_info['home']['pageName'],$allowed_pages_from_structs) || $tikilib->user_has_perm_on_object($this->user,$navigation_info['home']['pageName'],'wiki page','tiki_p_edit','tiki_p_edit_categorized'))
ah and before $allowed_pages_from_structs[] = $t_structs['pageName'];
otherwise a user without tiki_p_admin is not allowed to insert a page into a structure - the input box for it just doesn't get shown sylvieg: and what is it - if the strucure header has no perm, the other pages do not have?
strucure main page amette: yes, all the pages have the right perms sylvieg: I have no idea what are structures perms - guys amette: there is no such thing as structure perms I think...
... but there is this thing struct_editable which doesn't get set to 'y' although users have the right permissions on the object
http://pastebin.com/m6f5075c6
we added line 19 and added the first part of the check on line 22
I think you understand better when reading code instead of what I'm talking ;) luciash: sylvieg: we tried dimdim with xavi but it was extremely unusable amette: and just found out that our hack really isn't enough... cause it breaks as soon as you try to "Add page"... SEWilco2: File gallery slideshow updates every 2 seconds. Seems like a vision test, not a relaxing display. amette: ... so maybe there is later another check like this, which breaks because of the same reason - we think it should go into the check_object_perms... luciash: sylvieg: try ubuntu instead of fedora (drivers are usually well supported) sylvieg: :-)
luciash: when you were looking for the ID in svn - did you find something about the year ? (it will solve or copyright dilemma) luciash: sylvieg: unfortunatelly not ***: gerbert has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) luciash: amette: what tagline you want there ?
or no tagline ? sylvieg: (c)2002-2009 by ... with 2009 the year of the last commit luciash: sylvieg: i understand you but i don't think it's possible
ah, "TikiWiki SysAdmins' Workspace", ok amette: luciash: yeah, but could there be something cooler? If it is going to be a "Tagline"... :) SEWilco2: sylvieg: Update the instructions for the copyright notice to state that the year should be updated when the file is edited. -: SEWilco2 shakes a can of spray paint. luciash: SEWilco2: nobody will follow it ;)
it would be best if we could avoid the year as sylvie suggested SEWilco2: luciash: Well, it might help if that obscure page was copied/linked in a couple more places on dev. It's hard to find.
luciash: Copyright law requires the date in a copyright notice. sylvieg: $LastChangedDate$ will gives the date luciash: sylvieg: but it will be there then all
you want there something like "(c) 2002 - $LastChangedDate: 2009 $" ? SEWilco2: The format should be "Copyright 2007 Jane Doe" http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.html sylvieg: perhaps we can play with svn propset and then I suppose we can disply the property in the file... nyloth: bye all ***: nyloth has left "Konversation terminated!" amette: bye nyloth ;) SEWilco2: I asked a lawyer once. "(c)" is not the same as © unless you can persuade a jury. The word "Copyright" is acceptable. amette: yup, (c) doesn't have any legal consequences - but htat way it also doesn't hurt ;) sylvieg: SEWilco2: did you check the devel list - Michael Rish is a long time tiki user - and a laywer (I help him often - so we can ask him) SEWilco2: Having "Copyright (c) 2007 Jane Doe" is not quite the recommended "Copyright 2007 Jane Doe", so (c) might hurt. If (c) were a date then it wouldn't hurt. luciash: there's some echo now SEWilco2: Someone's laptop is too close. luciash: of the mic and some speakers
yup
:) sylvieg: but the sound was very good today.... SEWilco2: Sounded like 2000 Hz, if someone wants to calculate the likely distance to the speaker. sylvieg: :-) amette: yeah, chibaguy2 has good equipment :) sylvieg: now we need a way to communicate back luciash: yep, chibaguy1 has much worse one ;) amette: LOL :P luciash: *g*
what about the idea of projecting the IRC channel on the wall for the participants ? amette: I think we don't have a second projector SEWilco2: Someone in the room could run IRC under Orca, so the IRC channel is read aloud.
I don't know if I installed Orca on Ubuntu or if it came installed. Applications > Universal Access > Orca chibaguy2: Sorry about the feedback. You're right, luciash, laptop speaker too close to mic.
SEWilco2, low number of people in the room probably precludes need for calculations. ;-) ***: omstefanov has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") luciash: amette: sending you the logo, but i hear you go to have some beer, so, have fun ! amette: thanks :) chibaguy2: looks like we're leaving here in about 15 minutes.
So the feed will soon die..
I mean stream sylvieg: thx so much gary SEWilco2: Oh, dear. The copyright symbol is required for international protection. The word "Copyright" is not enough. Required format is © 2007 John Doe
According to the blue text in http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.html#form luciash: wow, some germans there :-) ***: mib_ykl18b has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") chibaguy2: Sure sylvieg, my pleasure.
Will be back tomorrow 9am Montreal time. amette: ok, bye for now guys luciash: bye bye
c u tomorrow bro amette: cu :) sylvieg: bye ***: chibaguy2 has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
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SEWilco2 has left luciash: well, the question is, does the copyright notice has to be in every file ? isn't referring to one copyright.txt enough ?
can one file of a particular Tiki release be expired from LGPL to public domain after some years earlier than the others ? ***: inherited is now known as inherited|halt sylvieg: agree with you luciash - it is why I was suprised about the answer - last modif date for each file