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lq_342: is there a way I can set rel="nofollow" attribute for all external links on the site?
sylvieg: <u>lq_342</u>: change tikilib.php search external and change the html
lq_342: nice. thank you
<br> hey sylvieg, would you also happen to know why my favicon won't show for ie but works for firefox?
SEWilco2: <u>lq_342</u>: Two reasons I'm aware of... 1. need IE's nonstandard HTML tag for favicon (I forget what it is but easy to find)...
<br> 2. Your favicon.ico is not in .ico format or not the right .ico format. You might try using netpbm to convert the icon.
lq_342: I'll check the html tag, the .ico converter I used I've used before and never had a problem. Thanks SEWilco2
<br> I keep breaking tikilib.php by adding rel="nofollow" I've tried it in a couple places now and still no luck
<br> Hey SWWilco2, I keep seeing <link rel="icon" href="favicon.png" /><!--[if lt IE 7]> <link rel="StyleSheet" href="css/ie6.css" type="text/css" /> <![endif]--> in my source code but this is not in the header.tpl file. Where is this coming from?
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lq_342: Ok I got the favicon to show finally. I'm still confused about the rel="nofollow" though if you're still there sylvieg?
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lq_287: Anyone have a good example of robots.txt for TikiWiki where it will scan the objects in my categories without so much clutter?
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SEWilco2: lq_342 apparently found it, but for other readers I'll mention that favicon code might also be in the styles files. And I think IE likes favicon.ico not favicon.png.
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lq_287: hello anyone? some help on robots.txt plz?
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relena: hello
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luciash: hi
amette: ho
luciash: hey bro ! how r u ? is your cold better ? how are your feelings from québec ? :)
<br> dust settled down ?
relena: somebody speaks French, the French channel is empty
luciash: oui-oui, sorry, nope :)
<br> try Jyhem
relena: ok
<br> thx
Guest37179: Hi li
<br> Hi am
<br> Hi re
<br> Guest ?
luciash: huh ?
Guest37179: ouin... it is yoni
<br> brb
luciash: ah, *g*
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Yoni: hi yo :)
relena: lol
luciash: yo yoni
Yoni: sun is shinung... the weather is goood... :)
<br> shining
idle-: here it's raining
<br> that's better then sun, sun is causing cancer.
<br> :)
luciash: *g*
<br> acid rain is good for your skin neither ;)
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17228 10/branches/3.0/favicon.png: [MOD] new favicon
<br> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17229 10/branches/3.0/favicon.ico: [NEW] lets have favicon for IE6 too
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Beestje: !help
Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
Beestje: Hello all!
luciash: hello
Beestje: I updated a 1.8.5 install to a 1.9.11 using the docs, everything works fine. Then upgraded to 2.2 and everything seemed to work fine (articles, blogs) ... but when I want to display the tiki-galleries.php page, it's just blank. Anyone familiar with this problem?
<br> same problem when displaying tiki-admin.php?page=gal
luciash: blank pages are usually memory_limit
<br> >whatis memory_limit
Sug4r: 'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP
luciash: better 32M
Beestje: hmmm... it seems it's set to 128 :)
<br> max execution time is 30 and max input time is 60
<br> gonna go on lunchbreak first, never solve problems on an empty stomach ;)
luciash: *g*, then you have to check out your apache/php logs
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17230 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]lang: when mulitlingual on and restricted language is off, show all the languages in edit translation
<br> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17231 10/branches/3.0/styles/tikineat.css: [FIX] tikineat: fix the look of date informations in rss feed
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17232 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-stats.tpl: [MOD] tiki-stats: some tiny cleanups and code reindenting - no changes
<br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17233 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: module calendar new - param - calIds[]=1&calIds[]=2 to view specific calendars: take away the calendarId 1 that was the only displayed : TODO: default display all the visible calendar
Beestje: back from lunchbreak :) i turned on php error logging in tikiwiki (duh... stupid me) and i get this error when viewing galleries : (without the logging it's just a blank page) Fatal error: Call to a member function list_visible_galleries() on a non-object in /var/www/ohmpi/modules/mod-last_image_galleries.php on line 11
<br> line 11 states the following : $ranking = $imagegallib->list_visible_galleries(0, $module_rows, 'lastModif_desc', $user, '');
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17234 10/branches/3.0/templates/sent_newsletters.tpl: icon
Beestje: oops... sorry for breaking the paste code/errors rule :) here's the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/m3c8369ec
sylvieg: in averypage or only some?
luciash: did you do tiki cache clean after the upgrade ?
Beestje: only in galleries or admin-galleries
<br> emptied the tiki cache from Tiki Cache / Sys admin
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17235 10/branches/3.0/tiki-galleries.php: global
sylvieg: try this patch http://pastebin.com/m2133e0ae
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ailmanki: I am helping on a installation of tikiwiki, where only the admin group can login, the registred group succesfully logs in, but gets thrown back to the login page. Yet log says user logged in.. what shall I do?
sylvieg: <u>ailmanki</u>: check your cookie + perhaps try to have session in database
Beestje: I applied the patch, but I still get the same error message :/
sylvieg: which version?
Beestje: 2.2
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ailmanki: hm, I got 2 cookies from it. A phpsessid and local_tz.. ; trying to find where to configure session & db
Beestje: i first upgraded from 1.8.5 to 1.9.11, then upgraded to 2.2 following the upgrade documentation (not just copying the stuff over and running tiki-install)
sylvieg: <u>Beestje</u>: I have no problem with my 2.x - but I know it can depend on the list of modules.... you use on your site
ailmanki: I couldnt find any database authentification, beside that the user seems correctly authenticated. I made now a new user in 'registred' tried to login - back to login pag. I added that user to the admin group tried to login - success.. I suppose its some issue with not having the right to view the pages.. is there some way to get more log output?
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sylvieg: <u>ailmanki</u>: try 'Store session data in database.' must be in admin->general or admin->login depending of the version
ailmanki: v2.2, found it - made the admin auto log out after save. Unfortunately I can still not login with the normal user.
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17236 10/branches/3.0/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX]newsletter: do not store the text in the database if it is a computed texte - because when reuse a newletter - people forget to update the text
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ailmanki: I just noticed, it shows the normal user as online .. while trying to directly access a page from tikiwiki does lead to login page with that user - yet it stays in list (I am using a virtual machine for the normal user.. so those browser do not interfere - bein loged with both )
sylvieg: is the login module box displayed?
<br> if yes do you see the user name or not in this box?
<br> virtual machine?
<br> perhaps it will break the session memrisation
ailmanki: the login is a custom page which only shows login fields + a pic.. the login box on the site is disabled, but a box to change the current user is there, I have just called the owner of it - damn - they edited the group security settings ... The virtual machine is VMware Workstation with a windows.. so that should work fine ..
ricks99: <u>q</u>: if i edit a wiki page directly in the database (via phpmyadmin) and create a link, how do can i "update" tiki so it recognizes the backlink?
sylvieg: <u>ricks99</u>: update tiki_links too
ricks99: ah.. manually. no auto-update? or re-index?
sylvieg: I do not know if there is such a function...
ricks99: k. tx
Yoni: Hi rick, hi Sylvie
sylvieg: hi yoni
ricks99: shalom yoni
Yoni: Pourim Sameakh rick :)
ricks99: tonight :)
Beestje: sylvieg : is it perhaps possible that something went wrong when executing the sql script during the upgrade from 1.9.11 to 2.2, and is it safe to run it again?
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Yoni: bye all
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17237 10/branches/3.0/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX]newsletter: do not record the computed text form when save a draft
<br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17238 10/trunk/ (49 files in 17 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17198 to 17237
<br> tikiwiki: 03kerrnel22 * r17239 10/branches/experimental/tracker_ui_macros/: Creating 4.0 branch for Tracker UI revamp and macros.
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ailmanki: Is there anyway to get more log output? So that it would show something like user xy tried to access xy.html - denied.
ricks99: i'm not sure if the action log provides that level of detail
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ailmanki: I enbaled the action log, but cannot find where to configure/view it
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kerrnel: moop
<br> poom
ailmanki: ah forget it, I told the owner - to reinstall - and when they do change something, they shall write down the changes... have a nice day - thx ( in any case it was the group permissions.. yet don't know exactly which ones.. anyway)
ricks99: Admin > Tiki Logs (from main administrator menu)
ailmanki: found it, unfortunately it has not that level of detail.. thx anyway - have a nice day
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ricks99: all plugins on doc.tw.o are 'pending approval' -- anyway to do a single, mass-approval?
<br> see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/permissions for example
<br> looks real bad :(
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17240 10/branches/3.0/lang/flagmapping.php: [FIX] Typo
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17241 10/branches/3.0/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] XHTML
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17242 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-listpages_content.tpl: [FIX] XHTML (no script tags allowed inside p tags)
marclaporte: <u>ricks99</u>: : sorry, I don't think so
ricks99: wow. that is a big bummer. has the potential to mess up *a lot* of tikis upon upgrade...
<br> that means, after upgrading i have to manually check every wiki page that has the plugins?
marclaporte: I never thought about that
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ricks99: there's no current method to find a list of pages that use plugin "foo" is there?
sylvieg: perhaps we can change the status in the source of the plugin redirect
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: use the old search tiki-searchindex.php
<br> and type the PLUGIN name
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17243 10/branches/3.0/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] Remove all Shadowbox JS (including the bug) if neither MooTools or JQuery are enabled.
ricks99: k. but this is going to affect all plugins, right, not just rename
sylvieg: the old search searches on not parsed data / the new search on parsed data
ricks99: i use JS a lot on my sites, i'm going to have to manually find those, too, right?
sylvieg: or you comment in lib/wiki-plugins/ all the validate in the info function
<br> the feature is certainly unfinished
marclaporte: there is a setting
ricks99: well, i mean, i want to have the security "on" (going forward), but it would be nice if all of my existing pages (which have been live for quite a while) wouldn't have to be 're' validated
sylvieg: ... there is a pref wiki-validate_plugin?
marclaporte: wiki_validate_plugin
sylvieg: I suppose tehre is also a bug to fix - upgrade should not invalidate all these plugins...
marclaporte: maybe this should be off by default
<br> better to be on for security
<br> but if it breaks upgrades...
ricks99: at min, upgraders need to realize this issue
sylvieg: I am sure it can be tune in lph's code
<br> I may have find a fix ... but now I need to build a test example...
SEWilco2: You mean there isn't a list of all plugins with checkboxes to approve them? It has to be done on each page?
ricks99: this is for upgrades
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ricks99: @syvlieg: would your fix allow me to specify which plugins are autoapproved? or global
<br> for example, i may want to fix all the REDIRECT in a single shot, but indivually examine each JS
marclaporte: we have no control panel of where each plugin is used and how many times
sylvieg: no this needs to new devlopment
ricks99: yet another item to add to the admin dashboard
<br> ok. so potential upgrades may involve *a lot* of post-upgrade-script work still? for example, can you image how many REDIRECT plugins we have on doc.tw.o?
marclaporte: REDIRECT was not an official plugin because of security issues
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17244 10/branches/3.0/tiki-editpage.php: [SVN] svn:keywords = Id not "Id"
marclaporte: There is now wiki page alias which could be more suited
ricks99: seems to be used pretty heavily on doc.tw.o
sylvieg: snif my trick does not work
<br> in any case we need an interface where an admin can see all the places he has to validate...
ricks99: are backlinks broken on doc.tw.o too? i dont see any
sylvieg: it was but amette svn up - I hope he did not forgot to upgrade then database/......
<br> ping amette
ricks99: where does admin decide *which* plugins require approval?
sylvieg: it is in the php code
ricks99: so no (easy) way for noob admin to turn off approval requirement? or even to know which plugins will require approval
sylvieg: this I do not know I know that there is 'validate' param in the info - but I do not know what are the values
ricks99: rick thinks that although the plugin security is great idea, it seems like it will cause a lot of headaches for upgrades
amette: <u>sylvieg</u>: yup, I forgot to run the db-upgrade - didn't expect anything - fixed now
sylvieg: thx
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17245 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mouseover.php: [MOD] Expandable height if unspecified
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lq_646: Which tikiwiki files handle link processing in the wiki editor window and fckeditor? I'm trying to add an attribute to all links
jonnyb: hi all - lq_646: i'm digging about in the same area - fckeditor messing up image src urls - some of it happens in tikilib/parse_data() (but not images it seems)
lq_646: I'm not having that problem jonnyb, I am having a problem after the upgrade where all images added before upgrade in image gallery are not thumbnailed though
danopia: hi
jonnyb: nice nice, lq_646 - don't know much about image gals i'm afraid
lq_646: I just found what I needed. was in the file /lib/tikilib.php
jonnyb: (or *not nice, i mean) ;)
<br> good shot
lq_646: hey jonny can you give me an example of a messed up img src url?
marclaporte: Having a list somewhere of all the plugins would be useful to know which ones I can deactivate without causing issues
lq_646: hey marclaporte, did you ever figure out how to nofollow all the wiki links? I saw you submitted it as a tracker item about a year ago
jonnyb: <u>lq_646</u>: it's in fckeditor, but i think it's a safari client-side effect (somehow!) - there are other safari issues, i guess it's related
marclaporte: lq_646 : I didn't but I think it would be a good feature
lq_646: that's what I just added if you want to write some documentation
<br> in the file tikilib.php, a couple $attrib .= 'rel="nofollow" '; strings and a couple $rel='nofollow'; is all it took
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jonnyb: lq_646, wouldn't that wipe out any previous rel attribute? it's used for shadowbox and i think semantic links
lq_646: I didn't overwrite the previous $rel in there I just added an additional
<br> I'm looking through my site and it seems fine
jonnyb: hmm - maybe you can have more than one rel
lq_646: sorry I think I explained that poorly
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lq_646: for example the line $rel='external'; that is in tikilib.php, I changed to $rel='external nofollow';
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jonnyb: ah ok, sorry i misread (just caught my eye)
lq_646: http://pastebin.com/f38aad979 I posted the 2 sections I made code changes in tikilib.php
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sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: a lot of safari issue dissapears if you svn up + desactivate ajax autosave feature
marclaporte: <u>lq_646</u>: : will you add to dev.tikiwiki.org as well?
<br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access
SEWilco2: Shouldn't lq_646's "nofollow" be configurable? Some sites might prefer for external links to be followed, to help usual sites be found by crawlers.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: In what way are image URLs being messed up? I didn't see you posting an example of a messed up URL.
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jonnyb: hi SEWilco2 - it just stopped doing it - i was getting image urls of /tiki_30///tiki/pics etc instead of just /tiki_30/pics when saving in safari (wysiwyg)
<br> i stepped through it a few times on the debugger and it just went away (sigh)
lq_646: marclaporte I'll sign up later and post the information. That's alot of stuff to go through and I want to go play tennis while we still have a nice day here ^^
marclaporte: <u>lq_646</u>: : enjoy the tennis!
lq_646: I will. See you all later
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SEWilco2: <u>jonnyb</u>: I agree the /// looks more like a JS problem in the editor than a PHP error. Js would also be likely to vanish under debugging. Good luck.
jonnyb: there are plenty of other ones to play with ;)
SEWilco2: Apparently we need a TikiIRC interface to a Wii paddle, to help keep devs inside paddling code. :-)
<br> What You See Is What You Paddle. Service!
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jonnyb: :)
CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17246 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: import also the categories in the new export way
sylvieg: the favicon is much nicer - thx to the committer
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17247 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX] Rogue $pref_toggle['feature_sitetitle'] - it's a pref_byref_value
<br> tikiwiki: 03kerrnel22 * r17248 10/branches/experimental/eSheet/: Creating a branch to work exclusively on eSheet, a TikiSheet redesign to accommodate formulas and other enhancements for reporting.
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17249 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX] Only redirect if site_style (or option) has really changed. Looses $tikifeedback notification but only if the style/theme changes now.
<br> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17250 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-received_pages.tpl tiki-send_objects.tpl): [MOD] code indenting - no changes
SEWilco2: Looses or loses notification?
<br> doc.tw.o search is giving a blank page after a long delay.
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SEWilco2: dev.tw.o tracker is now showing a Rating as "/5"? I think the "/" needs to be deleted and some &nbsp; between the rating option numbers.
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ScaryLptp: anyone know why feature_minichat is still listed as disabled even though I added feature_minichat and y to tiki_preferences using phpmyadmin? :P
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CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17251 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [MOD] Added warning message about switch theme module as it makes it look like this page doesn't work and is very confusing. TODO - always show site_style on this page.
<br> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17252 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] search: fix search functions in tiki-quiz_stats.php, tiki-edit_quiz_results.php and tiki-received_pages.php
SEWilco2: <u>ScaryLptp</u>: Is minichat a feature, a module, or a plugin? There might be several settings involved. I don't know what tech it uses.
<br> Unable to add comment to dev.tw.o to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=1074
ScaryLptp: it's a feature but there's no admin option for it. the tiki documention site says you need to add feature_minichat to y in tiki_preferences using phpmyadmin
<br> which I did
<br> but it still tells me it's disabled when I add the module for it
SEWilco2: <u>ScaryLptp</u>: Oh, good so there is documentation. Hmm. Flush your TW caches?
<br> Purchase indulgence? Burn incense?
ScaryLptp: tw caches
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SEWilco2: Mail a pound of bacon to luciash?
<br> Hey, doc.tw.o! I am an editor! Let me approve the stupid plugin!
<br> doc.tw.o places the WikiHelp button (on wiki edit page) on right side, over the RH modules.
<br> doc.tw.o has the message "NOTE" (from last edit) over the popup window to edit a popup.
ScaryLptp: ugh. I really really hate having tikiwiki on such a slow server. unfortunately putting it on a slow server is better than waiting for the IT department to give me access to an internal server :P
SEWilco2: <u>ScaryLptp</u>: Might help to put a cache ahead of it. But cookie requirement reduces how much can be cached.
ScaryLptp: well, fortunately I'm off for two days so I will look around online and maybe fix it on Thursday. Thanks though.
<br> I should join this channel from home and idle :P
<br> ciaol
<br> ciao even
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chibaguy: polom
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sylvieg: hi chibaguy
chibaguy: hi sylvieg
<br> I'm back home after that nice trip to Portland (Recent Changes Camp) and Montreal; long list of things to do now..... :-)
sylvieg: good for you - tw3 has so many bugs ... lot of job to do
chibaguy: Yep.
luciash: polom
<br> wb home chibaguy :)
chibaguy: hi luciash :-)
<br> thanks
<br> feels colder here than montreal. Temperature is higher, but houses have less heating/insulation. :-)
sylvieg: I am not like marc 100 steps forward and only 5 backwards ---- I see only the backward ones - marc is a lucky gyu
chibaguy: :-) very true, sylvieg.
sylvieg: in boston this we is was 19celsuis - and today we got 10cm of snow
chibaguy: weather is strange these days.
<br> luciash, are there no messages on tikiwiki-artwork list so far? Nothing shows up in archives.
luciash: so far none, yup
chibaguy: ok
luciash: you have to start with some ;)
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chibaguy: Maybe that ml would be good to dogfood ml-to-forum gateway at themes.tw.o
<br> ...at some point. themes.tw.o is kind of in upgrade transition at the moment.
luciash: yea, +1
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luciash: going to get some sleep, later folks
chibaguy: cya later, lucash :-)
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