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[00:37] <marclaporte> sylvieg : :-)
[00:39] <MasterCJ> so i'm having trouble getting the registration email part of tikiwiki working and in the process of modding it to use phpmailer, i noticed it has built in smtp support, but i can't seem to find any documentation on it. is it an unsupported feature or does it go by another name or anything?
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[00:49] <sylvieg> yep
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[00:54] <MasterCJ> ...yes?
[00:54] <MasterCJ> anything further? or was that not directed at me?
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[01:17] <marclaporte> MasterCJ: : please standdby
[01:19] <marclaporte> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1711
[01:20] <MasterCJ> standing by cap'n
[01:20] <MasterCJ> yep i found that before
[01:20] <MasterCJ> still doesn't really give much insight into how to wrangle it into working
[01:21] <MasterCJ> just says "you know, it's hard to config this."
[01:21] <marclaporte> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access  
[01:21] <marclaporte> well, it needs to be coded
[01:21] <marclaporte> and to add an interface in the admin panel
[01:21] <MasterCJ> ah, so it's nonexistant right now?
[01:21] <marclaporte> correct
[01:21] <MasterCJ> i just saw all the smtp stuff in htmlMimeMail.php
[01:21] <marclaporte> which is why it's on the wishlist
[01:22] <MasterCJ> and it got me excited
[01:22] <marclaporte> it's supported by the class, but not being used by Tiki
[01:22] <MasterCJ> ah
[01:22] <marclaporte> it's a very annoying problem
[01:22] <marclaporte> Do you PHP?
[01:22] <MasterCJ> yeah
[01:22] <MasterCJ> it's my job
[01:22] <marclaporte> Can you fix and add to main Tiki code base?
[01:22] <MasterCJ> :(
[01:22] <MasterCJ> maybe
[01:23] <MasterCJ> i'd never seen tiki until yesterday though
[01:23] <MasterCJ> so... yeah
[01:23] <marclaporte> That would be __very__ appreciated
[01:23] <marclaporte> Just 1 million lines of code
[01:23] <marclaporte> So you should be ok by Monday
[01:23] <marclaporte> :-)
[01:23] <MasterCJ> haha yeah
[01:23] <MasterCJ> totally
[01:24] <marclaporte> if you take the lead, some people will help you find your way around
[01:24] <MasterCJ> right now i've just hacked phpmailer in
[01:25] <MasterCJ> it seems to be working...
[01:25] <MasterCJ> kinda
[01:25] <marclaporte> what's missing?
[01:25] <MasterCJ> well i don't know if it'll always work
[01:25] <MasterCJ> it's working for me right now, but it looks kinda fragile
[01:25] <MasterCJ> the way i've done it
[01:27] <marclaporte> perhaps you could document on a wiki page, and let community eyeballs sniff out any potential trouble
[01:29] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17254 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/theme.php: [ENH] Switch from Tikineat to TheNews as the (maybe transitional) default theme, as part of removal of Tikineat from branch 3.0.
[01:32] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17255 10/mods/trunk/themes/tikineat/ (. Readme.txt styles/ templates/ templates/styles/): [NEW] Future home of deposed default theme, Tikineat.
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[01:55] * chibaguy needs to sort out his TortoiseSVN; tikineat move isn't recognized... :-|
[02:01] <chibaguy> In branch3.0, the CODE plugin is showing "{FLASH(movie=&quot;http:..." quote mark is encoded....:-(
[02:09] <chibaguy> ...regression bug
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[02:36] <marclaporte> oups
[02:36] * marclaporte nudges MasterCJ
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[04:21] <marclaporte> amette: : still htaccess weirdness on doc
[04:22] <marclaporte> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/3x sends me to index
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[08:00] <R|SK> Guys, hekp please? I'va accidentally deleted the "Application menu". How can I get it back?
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[08:21] <R|SK> Anybody?
[08:27] <chibaguy> Hi R|SK, what Tiki version?
[08:27] <R|SK> 2.2
[08:28] <R|SK> The module is still there, but the menu is deleted
[08:28] <chibaguy> I wonder if you can run the database update script and get it back.
[08:28] <chibaguy> afaik, the menu is stored in the database.
[08:29] <chibaguy> Anyway, there's no risk in running the script again.
[08:29] <R|SK> Hmm...
[08:29] <R|SK> Or I have to recreate it manually.
[08:29] <chibaguy> That'd be a drag. It's a lot of items.
[08:29] <R|SK> Indeed.
[08:29] <R|SK> How can I run the script again?
[08:30] <chibaguy> Go to tiki-install.php.
[08:30] <chibaguy> Actually you could use phpMyAdmin and submit the statement that way too.
[08:30] <R|SK> Is it nor automatically renamed?
[08:32] <chibaguy> Hmm, either it has to be renamed back or a new tiki-install.php uploaded, I guess. I've forgotten how 2.2 works already, since working with 3.0.
[08:32] <R|SK> Neither do I have access to the filesystem nor to the Database.
[08:33] <chibaguy> You can't ftp files to the site?
[08:33] <R|SK> Not yet
[08:33] <R|SK> It's a cororate server.
[08:34] <chibaguy> I don't think there's an admin method to get the menu back. Every solution requires either ftp or database access, I think.
[08:34] <R|SK> I have a second installation of tiki here, and tried to export the menu there and to reimport it to the main installation but I gett an error.
[08:34] <R|SK> You can only use optionId = 0 to create a new option or optionId equal an id that already belongs to the menu to update it.
[08:35] <R|SK> That's the error message.
[08:36] <chibaguy> How did you export it?
[08:37] <R|SK> With the option "Export CSV data" on the menu page.
[08:37] <luciash> polom polom
[08:37] <R|SK> Polom back luciash.
[08:38] <chibaguy> I don't see that option...
[08:39] <chibaguy> polom luciash
[08:39] <R|SK> Tiki-admin_menu_options.php -> scroll to the end of the page.
[08:39] * chibaguy goes duh
[08:41] * chibaguy remembers to scroll the page.... 
[08:45] <luciash> R|SK: you have to open the CSV file in OpenOffice
[08:45] <R|SK> And then?
[08:45] <luciash> R|SK: or some text editor and change all in the column optionId to 0
[08:45] <luciash> then it will work
[08:46] <R|SK> I'll give it a tr<
[08:46] <R|SK> *try
[08:46] <luciash> sure, it works like that :)
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[08:48] <mycomputer> hello everyone
[08:49] <luciash> R|SK: we're enhancing the menus admin for 3.0 now so i will give it better instruction there
[08:49] <luciash> hi mycomputer 
[08:49] <R|SK> Luciash: Ok, i set all items in the optioID to 0. Let's see if you are right.
[08:49] * luciash feels weird talking with his computer
[08:50] <mycomputer> hi luciash, how are you?
[08:50] <luciash> :D
[08:50] <R|SK> Luciash: "An error occured in a database query!"
[08:50] <R|SK> :(
[08:51] <luciash> hi mycomputer, i'm fine and you ? is all the components running fine ?
[08:51] <R|SK> Is it possible, that it conflicts, with the options I've manually reestablished?
[08:52] <luciash> R|SK: might be buggy on 2.2 :-/ i'm sure it works in 3.0
[08:52] <R|SK> :'(
[08:52] <mycomputer> I'm fine thanks. For the moment no problem. I am becoming a real tikiwiki fanboy :)
[08:52] <luciash> R|SK: ah, yes, you have to create new empty menu or you have to set the column (last) i think to 'y' to allow overwrite what you already set
[08:53] <R|SK> I'll create a new menu and try again then.
[08:53] <luciash> R|SK: so no bug but it tries to overwrite same items which fails
[08:53] <R|SK> Yeah! It seems to work! :)
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[08:55] <luciash> chibaguy: are you subscribed to tw-artwork ?
[08:56] <R|SK> And here we go again! :)
[08:56] <R|SK> Thank you very much guys. Great support here. *THUMBS UP*
[08:57] * chibaguy glad luciash showed up....:-)
[08:57] <luciash> heheh
[08:57] <chibaguy> I didn't subscribe yet, luciash.
[08:57] <chibaguy> but will
[08:58] <luciash> i hope to drag patrick there too
[08:58] <luciash> at least having him there when he's not interested in devel that much
[08:59] <luciash> and visual media is more for him when he has trouble to communicate in english still ;)
[08:59] <chibaguy> good idea
[09:00] <luciash> chibaguy: replied the table suggestion, hoping it will be optional
[09:01] <luciash> mycomputer: always nice to have fans :) without fans, no joy ;)
[09:02] <mycomputer> :)
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[09:10] <luciash> chibaguy: mods are only trunk ?
[09:10] <chibaguy> yes, no branches
[09:10] <luciash> mods/trunk/themes ?
[09:10] <chibaguy> yep
[09:10] <luciash> ok, so it works ok only with trunk ?
[09:11] <chibaguy> well, that depends on what you mean by "works with", I guess.
[09:12] <chibaguy> afaik, people just use mods as a general repository. There's no correlation with trunk or branches of Tiki's main code.
[09:12] <luciash> i want to checkout, can i use them with 3.0 or 2.2 ?
[09:14] <chibaguy> That depends. For things like avatars, no problem. But for themes and other things, there could be incompatibilities.
[09:14] <luciash> i see
[09:14] <chibaguy> I don't really know a good strategy for themes. I'll just label the 3.0 versions like Kubrick_for_3.0 or something.
[09:14] <luciash> when o do svn co mods/trunk/themes, does it create mods dir ? or only themes dir ?
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[09:16] <chibaguy> Heh, well I use TortoiseSVN, which is a gui that adds contextual menus to my file manager.
[09:17] <luciash> why not to put it in mods/3.0/themes ? or is it possible to create branch mods/branches/3.0/ ?
[09:17] <luciash> ah :)
[09:17] <chibaguy> I don't know enough about svn.
[09:17] <luciash> i'll try and i can always move it with SVN, so no problem ;)
[09:17] <chibaguy> Maybe nyloth has a good answer for that.
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[09:21] <R|SK> So guys, another question for you: I've enabled the plugin Snarf, to embed external content into a wiki page.
[09:21] <R|SK> However there seemd to be the same security issue as when implementing an iframe.
[09:22] <R|SK> The code is changed from {SNARF(url=>http://www.livejournal.co... to {SNARF(ur<x>l=>http://www.livejournal.co...
[09:22] <luciash> R|SK: that's easy to workaround
[09:22] <R|SK> The same thing happens to <iframe>
[09:23] <luciash> R|SK: {SNARF(u%72l=>http://www.livejournal.co
[09:23] <R|SK> ok
[09:23] * luciash is not sure %72 is the correct encoding for "r" :)
[09:24] <R|SK> Gnaaaaa! "You need php-curl for the SNARF plugin!" :-/
[09:25] <luciash> yup yup
[09:26] <luciash> but you can use the iframe if not public access server or iframe in a module or create own plugin ;)
[09:27] <R|SK> I need to contact our admin... :-|
[09:28] <R|SK> How can I use the iframe?
[09:30] <R|SK> The wiki is only used in our intranet.
[09:30] <luciash> {IFRAME(u%72l=>... ?
[09:31] <luciash> or is there different problem with <x> sanitization ??
[09:31] <R|SK> No, seems to be the same
[09:31] <R|SK> Perhaps you remember, that we have talked about it recently.
[09:31] <luciash> chibaguy: it checks out only the themes/ dir ;)
[09:32] <luciash> creates only the last dir in the path
[09:32] <R|SK> I'm trying to implement rudimentary content of our bugtracker "Mantis" into our wiki.
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[09:38] <R|SK> Hrrr... isn't there any way to disable the security setting preventing the usgae of iframe and url?
[09:40] <chibaguy> Nope.
[09:41] <R|SK> OS i have to ask why?
[09:41] <luciash> i see, it sanitizes iframe tag itself... only way to use iframe in your case is creating the custom module on Admin > Modules and include it using {MODULE(module=my_module) /}
[09:41] <R|SK> As lot of of plugins and even the Dynamic content system make use of it, this doesn't make sense to me.
[09:42] <R|SK> Luciash: that's a bad workaround, but it seems to me that I've no other chance.
[09:42] <luciash> R|SK: it doesn't make sense to us too, but someone implemented it this way and nobody got into it  to fix it yet in these areas...
[09:43] <R|SK> k
[09:43] <chibaguy> There's an iframe plugin in trunk that can be used in 2.2, right?
[09:43] <R|SK> I only know, that this plugin will be available in tiki 3.0
[09:43] <luciash> chibaguy: the problem is that the IFRAME plugin output gets sanitized too i guess
[09:44] <chibaguy> Hmm, I thought I tested it and it worked ok.
[09:44] <R|SK> Great.
[09:44] <chibaguy> Also, it's available; it just needs to be downloaded and installed.
[09:44] <R|SK> k
[09:45] <R|SK>  Is there any donwload link or do I need to get it from the repository?
[09:45] <chibaguy> repository
[09:45] <luciash> nope, sorry, i mean not the output but the plugin name
[09:46] <luciash> uh ? i thought R|SK already uses that plugin and says it doesn't work ?
[09:46] <luciash> please, don't confuse me :)
[09:47] <R|SK> I used the snarf Plugin which uses "url". I tried DCS which should make use of <iframe>.
[09:47] <R|SK> Both with negative results.
[09:48] <luciash> R|SK: ok, so you haven't tried the IFRAME plugin yet ?
[09:49] <R|SK> Correct
[09:49] <chibaguy> http://zukakakina.com/IFRAME_plugin_test -- last save on November 23, 2008
[09:50] <chibaguy> just saved it again, no problem with sanitation.
[09:51] <chibaguy> Tiki 2.2
[09:52] <luciash> R|SK: try the plugin then please, it will save you trouble
[09:52] <luciash> chibaguy: thx for testing
[09:52] <R|SK> Can someone give me a direct download link?
[09:53] <R|SK> The ftp-access to my home installation (where I already have tiki 3 beta 1 installed) is blocked by our proxy and I don't finde the plugin on the repo.
[09:54] <luciash> R|SK: isn't it in your Tiki in the lib/wikiplugins-dist folder ?
[09:55] <chibaguy> or http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_iframe.php?revision=14598
[09:55] <R|SK> Maybe. I have to get access to our server from our admin first.
[09:56] <R|SK> brb
[10:00] <chibaguy> Dang, every time I try moving tikineat files from 3.0 to mods (using TortoiseSVN), they lose their versioning info.
[10:01] <chibaguy> This worked before (olive theme).
[10:05] <luciash> hmm, no idea
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[10:09] <luciash> dang, can't enable article submissions :-(
[10:10] <luciash> everybody go bugfixing now ! :-p
[10:10] <luciash> it's becoming serious when every action i try means one new bug found in 3.0 :-/
[10:15] <chibaguy> haven't people been using trunk? It's surprising to see so many new bugs since branch 3.0 was made.
[10:15] <chibaguy> Or did code change a lot recently?
[10:19] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17256 10/mods/trunk/themes/tikineat/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] Tikineat moved from branch 3.0.
[10:20] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17257 10/mods/trunk/themes/README: updated README
[10:22] <luciash> we need code watchers ;) or the QA team reviewing code changes and making sure all changes were propagated carefully
[10:24] <luciash> ok, i'm sorry, the submissions chkbox works, i entered on another form :-p it's usability mismatch
[10:24] <luciash> *g*
[10:24] <chibaguy> :-)
[10:25] <chibaguy> user error is better than a bug ;-)
[10:26] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17258 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] Tikineat moved from branch 3.0.
[10:28] <chibaguy> luciash, I'm curious about your changing TikiWiki to Tiki in the readme, etc. Was there a decision about the name?
[10:29] <luciash> nope, i'm just using the short form to save some space and not to repeat TikiWiki all the time ;)
[10:30] <luciash> ppl seem not to be interested in the name change discussion much
[10:31] <chibaguy> I'd feel better if there was some sort of agreement on that.
[10:32] <chibaguy> For instance, the install page has "Tiki 3.0" at the top and "TikiWIki" on the right side, like two versions of the logo are presented because we couldn't decide.
[10:32] <chibaguy> I watched people see the page and go "what's this??"
[10:34] <luciash> it's weird to me too to see the older version of the logo there too
[10:35] <luciash> i'd be happy if people agreed on something but it seems they're really not interested to have this figutred out :-/
[10:35] <chibaguy> There's no consensus on what the logo should be. I think this should be asked again in the dev mail list.
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[10:37] <luciash> it would be great to keep TikiWiki CMS/Groupware as the "project name" and use only the short form "Tiki" for the application release name imho
[10:37] <chibaguy> Me too, really.
[10:38] <chibaguy> I mean I think so too.
[10:39] <luciash> thanks if you put this up on the dev list again
[10:40] <chibaguy> ok
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[10:47] <mycomputer> There is something that I do not understand : I am looking at the image galleries. I created an image gallery (send images,...). No problem. I see there is also another link in Image galleries, the system gallery : what is it? It says "No records found" ... 
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[11:07] <Beestje> Q : I'm trying to export data from a tracker in tw 2.1 and 2.2, and it seems that all i get is a csv file containing the xml / html output of the page and not the tracker data. Am i doing something wrong or is this a known issue?
[11:07] <chibaguy> mycomputer, see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Image+Gallery+User&bl=y#The_System_Gallery
[11:11] <mycomputer> thanks chibaguy
[11:15] <mycomputer> hmm : it does not really explain how the system galleries work
[11:18] <mycomputer> "If enabled from the admin screen, Tiki can capture images referenced from other sites or URLs, storing them in its database, or in a folder on your webserver. Tiki displays those images in a special gallery called the "System Gallery" " That what I did but the image is not listed in gallery system
[11:21] <chibaguy> Hm, I don't know then.
[11:23] <chibaguy> You have "cache external images" turned on, on the admin wiki page?
[11:25] <Beestje> trying to export the CSV data from a tracker, I get the following error message : http://pastebin.com/m6a566fc8
[11:29] <chibaguy> mycomputer, sorry, the checkbox for caching external images is on tiki-admin.php?page=general.
[11:30] <Beestje> when I run the SQL command manually from the DB, I do get the proper results
[11:32] <chibaguy> In a quickie test, I linked to an external site and no images show up in the system gallery for me, either (using branch 3.0). More testing needed, probably, but not a huge loss if it doesn't work IMHO.
[11:36] <mycomputer> chibaguy: which option exactly? I don't see it
[11:38] <chibaguy> Find in page "Use cache for external images" on tiki-admin.php?page=general 
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[11:54] <mycomputer> ok chibagay : I will try it in one hour : I have to leave now :)
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[12:01] <sylvieg>  MasterCJ is no more here - but we spoke about using the zend library replace the mailer lib
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[12:13] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17259 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [KIL] Removed rendundant pref check (must have been a caching/init issue which now *seems* to be fixed)
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[12:54] <ricks99> admin: backlinks missin on dev.tw.o
[12:54] <sylvieg> ping amette
[12:55] <amette> pong
[12:56] <sylvieg> :-)
[12:56] <amette> :)
[12:56] <sylvieg> if you can svn up and run the upgrade script
[12:56] <amette> ah, backlinks... hmmm.... I ran the db-upgrade yesterday..
[12:56] <amette> ah, dev, not doc - alright
[12:56] <ricks99> ty amettte
[12:56] <sylvieg> doc is fine now - thanks
[12:56] <amette> np, you're welcome :)
[12:57] <amette> ok, good to hear!
[12:57] <mycomputer> chibaguy : I just tried but still the same problem ... the uploaded image is not in system gallery 
[12:58] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17260 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] Tab content divs defaulting to display:none when JavScript disabled (also tested with JS on and "feature_tabs" on and off - seems ok)
[12:59] <amette> ok, dev is up
[12:59] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17261 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [FIX] Button to change theme menu if JS disabled
[12:59] <ricks99> perfect. tx ammette
[13:07] <amette> ok, cool, yw ricks99 :)
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[13:41] <alain_desilets> I need to update www.wiki-translation.com to use 3.0 or the latest version of trunk.
[13:41] <alain_desilets> Never done that before.
[13:41] <alain_desilets> Can someone hold my hand while I do it?
[13:41] <alain_desilets> Thx.
[13:43] <ricks99> not too difficult... 
[13:43] <ricks99> backup first
[13:44] <alain_desilets> Hi Rick,
[13:44] <alain_desilets> You are my knight in shiny armour again ;-).
[13:44] <alain_desilets> How do I do a backupÉ
[13:44] <ricks99> easiest way is via phpmyadmin
[13:45] <alain_desilets> I can run that through the web right?
[13:45] <alain_desilets> Will I need putty at any point?
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[13:45] <ricks99> no putty
[13:45] <ricks99> you can access phpmyadmin via web browser
[13:46] <ricks99> doc: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Backup&bl=y#A._Backing_up_through_Web_interface_Phpmyadmin_
[13:47] <alain_desilets> When I go to: http://www.wiki-translation.com/phpmyadmin
[13:47] <luciash> alain_desilets: you can use ssh via putty and use this command too: mysqldump --quote-names -c --opt -u your_db_username -p your_dbname > ~/last-backup.sql
[13:47] <alain_desilets> Page cannot be found (404)
[13:48] <ricks99> @alain: may need to go through your host's cpanel
[13:48] <luciash> alain_desilets: it will save the mysql dump sql file to home dir
[13:48] <ricks99> *rick has never used putty. sorry
[13:49] <alain_desilets> how do i get the cpanel again?
[13:49] <ricks99> domain/cpanel ?
[13:50] <luciash> alain_desilets: cpanel is third party application, same for phpmyadmin
[13:51] <ricks99> http://www.wiki-translation.com/cpanel looks like it works
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[13:56] <alain_desilets> Crap. won't accept the user and pwd I have. I'll have to ask Marc to reset it.
[14:03] <mycomputer> Is there some documentation how to migrate tikiwiki from a server to another server?
[14:06] <ricks99> @mycomputer: pls see faqs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=4
[14:07] <marclaporte> mycomputer: I have a private email about that
[14:07] <marclaporte> email me and I will forward to you
[14:07] <marclaporte> (I asked the person to put on wiki page but they sent to me by email anyway)
[14:07] <ricks99> @marc: can u update faq?
[14:08] <marclaporte> not today
[14:09] <marclaporte> just got back from a month-long trip, 4 events and Tiki 3.0 Beta
[14:09] <marclaporte> have back-2-back meetings
[14:10] <mycomputer> marclaporte : what is your email ? I am not very good in english : do you propose me to send to some documentation? 
[14:10] <marclaporte> mycomputer: : yesy
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[14:14] <mycomputer> marclaporte : how can I join you?
[14:15] <luciash> it is bad the wiki cache chaches the section edit icons and wiki plugins edit icons
[14:15] <mycomputer> I found it :)
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[14:20] <idle-> I've connected a wiki to an active directory. There does tiki store the passwords? if a user changes his password, the old password is still functional, but not the new one.
[14:21] <idle-> so i have to delete the user, let him register new and after that it works with the new password?
[14:22] <mycomputer> marclaporte : you have mail :) (I wrote you in french) 
[14:24] <luciash> amette: hi bro, seems some syntax error at your blog post ;)
[14:24] <luciash> amette: nice you blogged it anyway :)
[14:25] <luciash> s/anyway/by the way :)
[14:33] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17262 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]users: an admin junior can not see other groups than the one he is in + he can not unassign group he is not in too
[14:39] <amette> luciash: thanks, didn't notice that - looked good yesterday - fixed it now :)
[14:41] <sylvieg> idle-: change password do not affect ldap - strnage you should not see this option..
[14:44] <amette> luciash: uargh... apparantly tiki stripped half of my blog post because of that... ;(
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[14:48] <idle-> sylvieg: I mean something different. if the ad password is changed, the user can login with his old ad password via pear-auth/ldap. but it should be the new one from active directory.
[14:50] <sylvieg> do you have optionlike create user if not in tw or auth on?
[14:53] <idle-> sylvieg: yes create user if not in tw is on.
[14:54] <idle-> sylvieg: in auth is off
[14:54] <sylvieg> so you are sure that the problem with a password is not because this user was created in tw?
[14:55] <idle-> I am confused now - doesn't the user has to be created to assign him to groups etc...
[14:55] <idle-> ?
[14:56] <sylvieg> it is created automatically from ldap
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[15:06] <sylvieg> idle-: reading the code .... seems you are right - I do not have a ldap playground right now :-(
[15:09] <idle-> sylvieg: hm perhaps I will do some further testing.
[15:12] <sylvieg> idle-: it is in lib/userlib - validate_user - there is a test ($userTiki && !$userAuthPresent) { // create an account with pass...
[15:13] <sylvieg> no... I am worng
[15:13] <sylvieg> no sorry - it should work...
[15:17] <idle-> hm i think it is fixed: $result = $this->create_user_auth($user, $pass);
[15:17] <idle-> so the user is created with the pass, and if the password has changed, it is not recognized.
[15:20] <idle-> as I understand from this quick look, there is a missing part, which checks if the password has changed or something like this, 
[15:23] <idle-> so I wonder if all ldap users don't change their passwords from time to time  ;)
[15:27] <idle-> ok i am not alone in the dark ;) http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=31451&topics_offset=2&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=17
[15:37] <sylvieg> idle-: no because there is a validate_user_auth() -> PASSWORD_INCORRECT -> userAuthPresent and you go out = true
[15:38] <amette> luciash: rewrote the remaining part of my blog post.. :-/
[15:39] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r17263 10/branches/3.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]ongoing admin ui work. regrouping of options
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[15:46] <luciash> re
[15:49] <luciash> okay, seems now IE6 users cannot reach preferences when they click on Admin it yells a JS error and doesn't expand the admin menu :-/
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[15:49] <Caarrie> update them to FF ;) or opera
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[15:51] <luciash> Caarrie: ok, how do i do it ? ;)
[15:51] <Caarrie> pray?
[15:51] * luciash goes to pray
[15:52] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17264 10/trunk/ (47 files in 19 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17237 to 17263
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[16:07] <lifestream> Hello
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[16:08] <lifestream> I am having a problem with my wiki+ Forum and seeking advice.
[16:09] <lifestream> I have no idea what happened to my forums one minute they were working fine the next all attempts to post lead to a blank screen. tiki-view_forum.php is the page that loads when a post attempt is made.
[16:09] <lifestream> !help
[16:09] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[16:09] <lifestream> !help forums
[16:09] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[16:12] <ricks99> what is ur tiki version?
[16:15] <lifestream> 3
[16:19] <ricks99> do u have enough php memory?
[16:20] <lifestream> Yea
[16:20] <Caarrie> how much exactly?
[16:20] <ricks99> 32M min
[16:20] <lifestream> you can visit the forums here http://thelifestream.info/tiki-forums.php
[16:21] <Caarrie> lifestream: that does not tell us exactly how much php memory you have ;)
[16:23] <lifestream> I am unable to edit existing forums and some forums show code instead.
[16:23] <lifestream> 90mb
[16:25] <ricks99> using ajax?
[16:26] <lifestream> no
[16:28] <ricks99> not sure then :(
[16:28] <ricks99> looks like your forum *does* have some posts
[16:28] <lifestream> they were the ones I posted before
[16:29] <ricks99> and now suddently u cannot post
[16:38] <lifestream> yes
[16:41] <ricks99> not sure. can't image what would change by itself?
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[16:42] <lifestream> may have been in the update
[16:43] <lifestream> I will fiddle around until it works again, maybe use ajax
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[16:52] <MatWho> hi all in branches/3.0 does GroupWatch work  I have enabled the feature but I dont get the eys in the wiki pages
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[16:53] <MatWho> hi jonny
[16:54] <jonnyb__> greetings
[16:54] <jonnyb__> why am i jonnyb__ now? (i wonder)
[16:54] <MatWho> hi I have -2 hrs to get my VicWiky working last problem can get groupwatch on do you know what to do I have enabled the feature
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[16:56] <jonnyb__> hmm - good point - it's "just appeared" for me in the past - i'll do a quick search...
[16:57] <MatWho> it did for me but now it does not - it is a massive pain.
[16:58] <jonnyb__> there's a checkbox in admin/features/users - i'll try it
[16:58] <ricks99> do u mean "group alert"?
[16:59] <MatWho> I just want every one to get an email in a group when a wiki page is changed
[17:00] <jonnyb__> it makes the second "eye" icon appear, but nothing happens - seems to be broken, i'll investigate
[17:01] <MatWho> I dont get the second eye, it all worked fine on trunk - I am now ruined :(
[17:01] <ricks99> works for me
[17:02] <MatWho> what did you do?
[17:02] <ricks99> click the second eye and i get a popup
[17:02] <ricks99> with my groups.
[17:02] <MatWho> i dont get the 2nd eye
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[17:02] <ricks99> need to enable watch & group watch
[17:02] <MatWho> do you mean user watch
[17:03] <MatWho> s/user watch/user watches/
[17:03] <ricks99> Admin: Features, user tab
[17:03] <ricks99> enable "user watches" and "group watches"
[17:03] <jonnyb__> feature_group_watches is on admin/features/users
[17:03] <MatWho> yes both are on
[17:03] <jonnyb__> then you should get the eye...
[17:04] <jonnyb__> however you need to enable mootools for it to actually work (as it secretly depends on it)
[17:04] <MatWho> I need 2 eyes dont I
[17:04] <jonnyb__> yy
[17:04] <MatWho> only get one
[17:04] <jonnyb__> skype?
[17:05] <MatWho> ok in 3 mins
[17:05] <ricks99> jonnyb is right... needs mootools
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[17:05] <MatWho> I have mootools on
[17:05] * marclaporte cheers ricks99 on his innovations
[17:07] <jonnyb__> it also requires tiki_p_admin_users (or tiki_p_admin) for the 2nd eye to appear
[17:07] <jonnyb__> not sure why
[17:08] <MatWho> marclaporte: what do you mean
[17:14] * sylvieg plan to change the interface of group watch - I would like a special apge not a drop-down with all the groups - because I do not need the query - getr_group each time
[17:28] <jonnyb__> sounds good sylvieg - meanwhile i'll make it work with jquery
[17:30] <sylvieg> does the ajax autosave need ajax feature to work?
[17:32] <ricks99> think so
[17:32] <sylvieg> has somebody the ajax_autosave working with fck?
[17:33] <sylvieg> Do you see a special icon in fck toobar for autosave purpose?
[17:36] <sylvieg> I thought Chibaguy moved tikineat _ I still have the .css ....
[17:37] <MatWho> sylvieg: +1
[17:38] <jonnyb__> i gave in with autosave - it messes up page content (for me) when previewing, in both wysiwyg and wiki - had a go at fixing it but no joy, so i made it optional
[17:39] <sylvieg> :-(
[17:40] <sylvieg> find out the tikineat ... it was not deleted in  my local trunk
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[18:01] <ricks99> what is the "file author" field for (admin: file gallery)?
[18:01] <ricks99> what does "for not registered author" mean?
[18:03] <sylvieg> perhaps it is ... ask a name if anonymous upload file?
[18:06] <ricks99> ok. tx
[18:27] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17265 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.popup_link.php: [ENH] popup_link Smarty "block" now works with JQuery (and or MooTools, but puts up an alert now if neither are enabled)
[18:30] <SEWilco2> Maybe SVNTips references to 2.0 should be switched to 3.0.
[18:31] <SEWilco2> Hmm... except for the "stable" example.
[18:33] * luciash wonders why the groupwatch need to be mootools dependent :-/
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[18:49] <SEWilco2> luciash: Because cows are herd animals?  :-)
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[19:17] <luciash> SEWilco2: *g* :)
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[19:26] <SEWilco2> My code minion has created an imagegal -> filegal duplication tool.  We're testing on 2.2, will transfer to 3.0 soon.
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[19:59] <jonnyb__> hi SEWilco2 - that's just what we need, great news (hope it works :) )
[20:00] <jonnyb__> bibi
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[20:12] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17266 10/branches/3.0/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX]categ: is_categorized was returning true if an object had been categorized but was not anymore
[20:13] <sylvieg> ah - a good big bug on permissions...
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[20:19] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17267 10/branches/3.0/tiki-download_file.php: better error message
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[21:05] <luciash> Caarrie: prays didn't help... ppl still using IE6 :-/
[21:05] <Caarrie> tell them to update IE7 is not that bad
[21:06] <luciash> unfortunatelly i'm not god to tell everybody
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[21:12] <hivemind_> hmm... I'm a clone of myself
[21:12] <hivemind_> anyway...
[21:13] <hivemind_> anyone know how to get mail-in to play nice. every time i send a message to it (using PHP mail() on another server) I get a Array print_r spill at the top of the page when it tries loading it (not very informative) but a message sent from outlook (via exchange) works fine
[21:19] <hivemind_> barring that working, is there a way to drop a page in the wiki from outside via direct database access (e.g modify the entry in wiki_pages but that won't update the history file)
[21:30] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17268 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] menu 42: contact us option has to appear only if feature_contact AND feature_messages are enabled
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[22:00] <SEWilco2> hivemind: I've seen code in mail-in which looks broken so I don't expect it to work without some work.
[22:02] <SEWilco2> hivemind: There is a new experimental DBREPORT plugin in 3.0.  Won't suck DB into wiki page, but can display data.
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[23:17] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17269 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (strasa/headermenuitem-hover.png strasa.css): [ENH] some fixes and enhancements to the PLM and siteloginbar look
[23:21] <CIA-71> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17270 10/branches/3.0/installer/schema/20090310_feature_search_show_object_filter_tiki.sql: [FIX]search: when upgrading search must show the object type bar as it was before
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[23:40] <lq_375> Hey everyone I'm having a couple of problems with the new beta someone might be able to help me with.  1. is when I'm trying to save a page the message pops up about navigating away from the page, 2.  Some of the images in my image gallery appear their normal size instead of thumbnailed.  Any ideas?
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[23:48] <lq_375> I have tried to set the size of images in the admin galleries page and rebuild thumbnails but the pictures don't respect the size