#tikiwiki 2009-03-18,Wed

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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17412 10/branches/3.0/lang/cs/language.php: [ENH] czech language: some more translations	[00:43]
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chibaguy	Is "Layout per section" broken in 2.2? All checkboxes on tiki-admin_layout.php are empty and stay after being checked and submitted.... stay empty Hmm, the checkboxes have effect, but don't show the check, at least in my install.	[05:58]
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Ludo_delath	hi , anybody active?	[06:13]
chibaguy	hi, Ludo_delath	[06:15]
Ludo_delath	ha hi most members are in europe or us I guess?	[06:15]
chibaguy	yep this is the slow time of day here	[06:16]
Ludo_delath	mmm i am in australia..	[06:16]
chibaguy	ok, I'm in japan...	[06:16]
Ludo_delath	ahhhh ok , better here ....about same time but warmer i am not much of a contributor , i just installed tiki still learning how to tune it	[06:17]
chibaguy	Currently 19°C here; early spring, it seems.	[06:18]
Ludo_delath	ah its ok 19... but to cold for me, got 30 here in brisbane	[06:19]
chibaguy	yeah, there's a lot to learn, if you want to know every feature, etc. 30? Wow.	[06:19]
Ludo_delath	i am not looking to learn everything... if i can use it then i will be happy. I am not much of a progammer. Just understand a little basic and html	[06:21]
chibaguy	Hopefully, programming, etc. shouldn't be needed to use tikiwiki, of course. unless you want to extend it some way...	[06:23]
Ludo_delath	mmm i hope so but i have trouble fining what i want, documentation is not so clear for me	[06:24]
chibaguy	What do you want to do?	[06:24]
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Ludo_delath	i installed tikipedia and want the "tabs" like mediawiki well it looks like tabs, but maybe its just top menu in the template you know the tabs like page/discusion/view source/history...	[06:25]
chibaguy	The tabs in the Tikipedia theme are kind of kludgy. They should look/work ok though.	[06:29]
Ludo_delath	i cant find then though...and i dont know what they are called	[06:30]
chibaguy	Don't the tabs appear automatically when you use the theme?	[06:33]
Ludo_delath	no, i did not see them. And cant find reference to it	[06:34]
chibaguy	Hmm, they should. So I'm thinking maybe not all the theme files are installed correctly.	[06:35]
Ludo_delath	i have tabs o course for editing but not for the naviation	[06:36]
chibaguy	The Tikipedia page-top tabs aren't affected by the tabs admin option, actually. They should just appear. No special config switch for them.	[06:36]
Ludo_delath	ah ok so i must do something wrong	[06:37]
chibaguy	Your templates/styles/tikipedia directory should contain 15 files; you could check that.	[06:38]
Ludo_delath	ok i will check that now	[06:38]
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Ludo_delath	i have 17 i will check them all	[06:43]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17413 10/mods/trunk/themes/kubrick_tiki_3/ (15 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Kubrick theme updated for Tiki 3.	[06:44]
chibaguy	credits, header, index, mod-toolbox, tiki, tiki-bot_bar, tiki-likepages, tiki-pagehistory, tiki-read_article, tiki-rename_page, tiki-rollback, tiki-show_page, tiki-site_header, tiki-stats, tiki-top?bar Those are the files in the tikipedia package, in the templates directory.	[06:45]
Ludo_delath	yes i found them, thanks	[06:46]
chibaguy	(will be simplified for Tiki 3, coming up soon)	[06:46]
Ludo_delath	ah ok	[06:46]
chibaguy	So if those files are there, and tikipedia.css is in place, I'm not sure what would stop the tabs from displaying.	[06:47]
Ludo_delath	can i delete all other files?	[06:47]
chibaguy	Yes, you can.	[06:47]
Ludo_delath	ah ok i will delete them all and reinstall them	[06:47]
chibaguy	ok	[06:50]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17414 10/mods/trunk/themes/kubrick_tiki_3/ (README-FIRST.txt Readme.txt theme_details-kubrick.txt): [FIX] Readme info made consistent with other themes.	[06:50]
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Ludo_delath	i checked all files and css but still dont see tabs. i will uninstll everything and reinstall ; then add tikipedia again. Maybe that helps	[07:17]
chibaguy	Be sure to clear your site caches (tiki-admin_system.php) also.	[07:22]
Ludo_delath	i had some issues with the domain pointers to my subdomain. Could that be a problem? They told me its only a problem when i install from fantastico (i guess you know that). But i installed fine after they ran a fix and then uploaded the files for tikipedia ok i will clean the directory completely thanks for your help, much appreciated	[07:22]
chibaguy	sure I don't know about the subdomain issues. If other themes can be used as expected, then tikipedia should also.	[07:24]
Ludo_delath	yes it installed ok after they ran a fix i will talk to you later , will give feedback , thanks	[07:26]
chibaguy	ok, you're welcome.	[07:33]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17415 10/branches/2.0/ (10 files in 3 dirs): [REL] Pre-release updates	[09:07]
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xavi	polom chibaguy, are you around? luciash ? xavi is willing to commit a tiny update of the css related to sheets on some of your themes... strasa.css, coalesce.css & simple.css , at least	[10:15]
luciash	hi xavi, you're welcome to do so	[10:22]
xavi	hi luciash ok I saw that you don't have anything for sheets in simple.css I wondered if that was intentional	[10:22]
luciash	nope, actually i shamelessly didn't touched that css for long time	[10:23]
xavi	and for the other 2 themes, sheet appear in black background, and I'll change that for white, at least ok	[10:23]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17419 10/branches/3.0/styles/simple.css: [FIX] Added sheet css details to simple.css tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17420 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce.css strasa.css): [FIX] Changed sheet cells background from black (with black text) to white (with black text)	[10:30]
xavi	luciash, another question, do you know how to force the ending of a div in wiki syntax?	[10:32]
luciash	huh ?	[10:32]
xavi	I mean, in this page: http://www.ub.edu/optics/tiki/tiki-print.php?page=The%20JOptics%20Course	[10:32]
luciash	why do you need that ?	[10:32]
xavi	you get the new header moved to the right, because the image is floating on the left	[10:33]
chibaguy	hi xavi and luciash	[10:33]
xavi	I used to add simple blank lines after that paragraph of the heading ... hi chibaguy	[10:33]
luciash	force ending of a div or force clear of the float ?	[10:34]
xavi	but there are other places like when you click on print page, that is still around... oh, well, force that the new headeing starts on the left of the page if this means ending of div or of float, whatever...	[10:34]
chibaguy	xavi, about sheets, probably it's good to add your css to transitions/2.0to3.0.css	[10:35]
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xavi	chibaguy, ok	[10:36]
luciash	good idea xavi, you can use the TAG plugin or %clear% dynamic variable	[10:36]
xavi	%clear% dynamic variable? hold on, I'll allow anons to see the source of that page...	[10:37]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17422 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz_tiki_3/ (17 files in 9 dirs): [NEW] LiteJaxx theme update for Tiki 3.	[10:38]
chibaguy	dang, what's this LiteJaxx theme? ;-) chibaguy needs to clean his glasses....	[10:39]
xavi	:-)	[10:39]
chibaguy	I'm really happy about the superfish menus and other jquery things. props to jonny. :-) Shoutjax is cool -- shoutbox with only module refresh, not page..	[10:40]
xavi	ok, page with the floating issue: http://www.ub.edu/optics/tiki/The+JOptics+Course source: http://www.ub.edu/optics/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=The%20JOptics%20Course&source=0 how could I force that each new heading starts on the left, and is not affected by the previous left-floating image (from the previous heading)? xavi is willing to get a taxonomy book to find out the species of this new superfish thingy! :-)	[10:41]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17423 10/branches/3.0/styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css: [FIX] Added basic sheet css details tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17424 10/branches/3.0/styles/simple.css: [FIX] Changed sheet header cells background from blackish (took it from strasa, by mistake) to the a color more adapted to the simple.css theme	[10:47]
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luciash	xavi: or you can wrap the image in div with class="clearfix"	[10:49]
xavi	ok, I'll try	[10:50]
luciash	in %clear% variable you can click and write <br style="clear:both" /> or <br class="clear" /> to get the same effect	[10:50]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17425 10/tags/2.3/: [REL] Tagging release	[10:52]
luciash	hum	[10:52]
xavi	luciash, they didn't work for me...	[10:53]
luciash	luciash always wonders why not 2.2.1 for minor releases xavi: must be some glitch, it must work	[10:53]
xavi	mmm.... xavi looking for glitches....	[10:54]
luciash	do you allow dynamic variables ? just put %clear% there, then save the page	[10:54]
xavi	ok	[10:55]
luciash	then click the Nav appearing, then fill the code in it	[10:55]
xavi	ouau!!!!! it works!!!! and the best of all, after three years of wondering how to use dynamic variables... I learned how to use them!!!!	[10:56]
luciash	sure :) LOL	[10:56]
xavi	thanks a lot luciash!	[10:57]
luciash	there's only the little problem if you create a variable containing some code which produces something "invisible", you cannot edit it later then because there's nothing to click and no admin GUI to administer them later ;)	[10:59]
xavi	ah, ok, good to know	[11:00]
luciash	but it's definitely the fastest way how to produce clear after float when you want to avoid enabling html for wiki pages	[11:01]
xavi	yes, I fully agree (I'm still impressed about the %clear% quick effect on the page...)	[11:02]
luciash	:) luciash wonders xavi didn't know that yet after these years	[11:02]
xavi	xavi recongizes himself as a former newbie to dynamic variables ... => documentation for dynamic vars. is not "newbie ready", probably I'll review the doc pages about that so luciash , if you want to change that dynamic variable, then you need to go to the database directly?	[11:04]
luciash	i thought it could be good idea to allow something like: {img src=... imalign=left class=clearfix}Some lines of text which should appear on the right side next to the image{img} Some text which should continue after cleared div	[11:05]
xavi	+1	[11:07]
luciash	xavi: i think so	[11:07]
xavi	this would do, without going the div float way, which many people don't know, and is not the quick way for newbies... btw, there are many pages in doc.tw.o showing the plugin execution pending approval...	[11:07]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17426 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz_tiki_3/styles/ (10 files in 6 dirs): [FIX] Theme options improved.	[11:09]
xavi	I'm manually approving them, but I guess there are plenty of doc.tw.o pages still not visible for plain end users because of that...	[11:10]
luciash	good thing about dyn vars is you can create e.g. something like %copyright% and update it only on first page where you created it every year	[11:10]
xavi	xavi wishes there was a quick way to list pages with plugins pending approval... (or even better, and massive way to approve many of the safe ones in a single go...)	[11:10]
luciash	hmm, i don't know how the approval actually works, is it per page basis ?	[11:11]
xavi	per page: yes	[11:11]
luciash	i already approved some too and was wondering the same plugin asks me for approval again after then i think sylvie or someone pointed that out that it should be done at upgrade time still todo	[11:11]
xavi	+1 redirect plugin requires approval... :-/ is there a way to say which plugins require approval, and which ones don't require it? xavi would go for allowing redirect plugin (to internal wiki pages) without approval... xavi ... on doc.tw.o pages	[11:12]
luciash	+1 at your print page, the original document link is wrong or you disallow view of the page except for printing ?	[11:14]
xavi	? it shouldn't... xavi is checking	[11:15]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03axold * r17427 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/mods/ (42 files in 8 dirs): [Add] Added AulaWiki 1.6.5b in the main core of Workspaces	[11:16]
luciash	seems a bug then cgi-bin/cgiwrap	[11:16]
xavi	weird bug: the link (after cliking) points to http://www2.ub.edu/optics/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The%2520JOptics%2520Course but the existing page is: http://www2.ub.edu/optics/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The%20JOptics%20Course	[11:18]
luciash	it seems the cgi redirects it somehow	[11:18]
xavi	and the cgi-bin/cgiwrap url shouldn't be listed there.... I found this issue in some places (like when attempting to print posts from forums) , and there it is a worse bug, since it makes a non existing url, and the error message is from outside of tiki.... there seems to be a problem when you use php as compiled in the server (like our university does), and not just as apache module... I wish there was a way to set in tiki the base domain... because there are some places where tiki doesn't point to the official url (www.ub.edu/....), and it point to the cgi-bin/cgiwrap url..	[11:18]
luciash	if you can use .taccess you can workaround it i think *.htaccess	[11:24]
xavi	yes, we do what should I add there?	[11:24]
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luciash	xavi: RewriteRule ^cgi-bin/cgiwrap/optics/tiki/(.*) /optics/tiki/$1 [R=301,L]	[11:27]
xavi	thanks, luciash , I'll try once I finish updating the dyn vars page at doc.tw.o :-)	[11:28]
luciash	xavi: i don't know where the %25 comes from though	[11:29]
xavi	neither do I	[11:29]
luciash	xavi: if the rule doesn't work, you'll need to rewrite that too	[11:29]
xavi	ok	[11:30]
luciash	something like %2520 %20 but i'm not sure it's possible with rewriterules regular expressions	[11:31]
	the remember me feature definitely is broken again :-/ it remembers most 2 hours whatever i set	[11:38]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03axold * r17428 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/ (288 files in 61 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 17175 to 17409	[11:38]
chibaguy	luciash, same for me -- remember me only remembers a few hours...	[11:46]
luciash	:-/ another regression bug or how it is called	[11:48]
chibaguy	luciash, what do you think about letting suckerfish menu parent-items have just the >> characters and not the phplayers down arrow images? I guess this would mean jquery/superfish should be used whenever cssmenus (suckerfish menus) are used. but that seems like a natural thing.	[11:53]
luciash	hmm, actually i thought it would be better to have them styled wia css background property and remove the >> characters *via	[11:54]
chibaguy	Hmm, maybe so.	[11:55]
luciash	or hide for non-CSS browsers	[11:55]
chibaguy	non-CSS browsers means that the menus appear as lists?	[11:56]
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chibaguy	http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/#examples shows image arrows, not >>, btw.	[11:58]
luciash	yep i don't know where the >> came from	[11:59]
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chibaguy	Well, I won't bother css/cssmenus.css for now. That's where the present img arrows are set. But maybe jonny should be asked about this. We don't need both types of pointers, for sure.	[12:00]
luciash	yup yup	[12:01]
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xavi	how did you allow adding html tags inside a CODE plugin call? ah, forget it. It's just that previewing doesn't show the html content, but when the page is sved, the content is shown	[12:14]
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chibaguy	One good thing about the suckerfish menu '>>' , the color contrast is always good. With image arrows, there must be an override image for dark-backgrounds.	[12:20]
luciash	we can prepare arrows with 1px white outline	[12:24]
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luciash	or icon sprite with one icon black and second white and position them in clip using background-position property	[12:24]
chibaguy_	chibaguy_ should not refresh the tab of his browser containing mibbit irc.... :-\|	[12:25]
luciash	oups :)	[12:25]
chibaguy_	:-)	[12:26]
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luciash	luciash repeats for gary: we can prepare arrows with 1px white outline	[12:26]
sylvieg1	in tikitrunk - .... my 3 columns are below each others ... does somebody know changes around this?	[12:27]
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luciash	luciash wonders sylvie have still extra time to play with trunk :)	[12:27]
sylvieg1	I merge everyday - so it is the same testing trunk or 3.x for me	[12:28]
chibaguy	sylvieg, sounds like lite/lite.css isn't being imported	[12:28]
sylvieg1	I have already new risky stuff in trunk..	[12:29]
chibaguy	or used by the theme without lite.css, the columns will be stacked vertically. Isn't that right, luciash?	[12:29]
sylvieg1	sorry guys - I cleared the cache - and it is ok...	[12:32]
luciash	sylvieg1: good :)	[12:32]
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chibaguy	:-)	[12:33]
xavi	oups, in tiki 2.x, html tags are not shown if added within code plugin whereas in tiki 3 they are shown. Any workaround to show html tags in tiki 2.x sites?	[12:35]
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sylvieg1	xavi - yes nyloth did a patch in 3 and I was obliged to reverse the patch when fixing CODE nyloth did an option to CODE	[12:36]
xavi	mmmm, ah, in tiki 2? in tiki 3 is working by default in tiki 2 in tiki2 not	[12:36]
sylvieg1	http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_code.php?r1=14284&r2=15147 was teh fix for 2 but as lph change the parsing ... I was obliged to reverse the patch perhaps you can backport to 2 the patch	[12:38]
xavi	mmm, I wonder if I'm skilled enough for the backport... I can give a quick trial, if not too complicated.... What should I do, sylvieg1, then? where is the patch in 3 that should work for 2? if so you said that the previous url was the fix for 2: did you mean for 3 instead? so I sould do the same fix for the code plugin in 2? s/sould/should	[12:40]
sylvieg1	it was the fix in 3 - unitl lph changed the way the plugins are parsed - so I was obliged to rollback the fix - complicated story...	[12:42]
xavi	ok, but I mean that this fix should do the job in 2.x? ok, never mind, trying in local first	[12:43]
sylvieg1	do you try or do you want me to do it?	[12:48]
xavi	mmmm sylvieg: it works! :-)	[13:00]
sylvieg1	good xavi..	[13:00]
xavi	I'll commit it in short	[13:00]
sylvieg1	sylvieg1 is pretty sure there bugs in 3.x with this CODE plugin ... but finishing fixes began by others is hard..	[13:01]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17432 10/branches/2.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_code.php: [ENH] plugin code allows ishtml param to show special chars as they are - backported from a sylvieg hack in 3 - thanks sylvieg! tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17433 10/mods/trunk/themes/ohia_tiki_3/Readme.txt: [MOD] Readme updated for Tiki 3. tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17434 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki.tpl: little oops !	[13:07]
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xavi	sylvieg1, it's not fully fixed. in forums (where I initially wanted to post that html code inside code plugin), the html code is not shown :-( where as in wiki pages, it is, with this hack am I missing something? I mean, that the forum post with this: {CODE(ishtml=>1)}<br style="clear:both" />{CODE} will save just this: {CODE(ishtml=>1)} {CODE} whereas in the wiki page, everything is saved successfully, and shown with no problem inside the code plugin	[13:17]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17435 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Articles notifications: Changed the way $mail_action handled in templates for easier translation.	[13:34]
xavi	chibaguy, which is the easiest way to change the font color in a theme style (e.g. eatlon.css) for something darker? should I change the color one by one to all entries in my local eatlon.css? I'm looking through web-developer toolbar in firefox, and I can't see where the color for the font is set...	[13:36]
chibaguy	eatlon's body selector has 'color: #8f8f8f;'	[13:37]
xavi	ok, thanks, I'll play with that	[13:37]
chibaguy	This is the default for the theme.	[13:37]
xavi	btw, did you get my email about the twist header image missing (and attached my hack)?	[13:38]
luciash	xavi: i think jonny introduced you can put your custom css in theme style folder to override	[13:39]
chibaguy	Yes, I got your email; sorry for not reponding. I fixed it for Tiki 3 anyway; maybe not the same as your fix -- I don't recall now. I'll check about backporting to Tiki 2.	[13:40]
xavi	luciash, yes, thanks, I'm overriding in 2.x through the @import "eatlon.css" and set new values for some specs. chibaguy: no worries. Just to make sure that I didn't have problem with your email (I'm still getting some trouble with your email when I've sent an email to admin list) and my fix was just gessing the size of the missing image, and cutting it by the original full header... by trial and error... s/gessing/guessing s/by the original/from the original my fingers and my neurons are out of sync. sometimes....	[13:41]
luciash	:)	[13:46]
chibaguy	Ah, ok, well, I used a different method for the background image, actually using just one image two times for the ends of the space and then margin and padding to enable the ends to display.	[13:46]
xavi	yes, worked for real when updated the css on the server. I was confused because I didn't see the effect when playing through web develoer toolb ar in firefox... (it must be buggy for that feature, I guess)	[13:46]
chibaguy	Kinda neat because it saves a server request.	[13:46]
xavi	mmm, Gary, I think we are not talking about the same. See this page: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Twist there is an image missing from the header, at the right of the header. the right corner is missing ^ chibaguy	[13:48]
luciash	xavi is right :)	[13:50]
chibaguy	Right, I saw the problem. But I didn't use a separate small image to fix it. I also changed the css. See http://zukakakina.com/tw3/Twist. (If the page works ok when not logged in -- I've been having trouble with theme parts mixing up in recent svn updates.) i.e., one theme for site and one theme for an object (page) causes mix of the two themes.	[13:53]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17436 10/branches/3.0/templates/header.tpl: indentation only - no code change	[13:56]
chibaguy	Anyway, td id=header and the div just inside it both have the same background image, but space is left via padding and margin to let both image ends show. http://zukakakina.com/tw3/styles/twist/header.jpg	[13:57]
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xavi	yes, I see the point. (I saw it very cleverly done in eatlon footer image :-) however, twist is looking for a missing image: background: url(twist/twist-banner3.jpg) no-repeat 100% 0;	[14:01]
chibaguy	Right, that's why I changed twist.css -- actually it was wrong for months.	[14:02]
xavi	in td#header , at least at themes.tw.o	[14:02]
marclaporte	polom	[14:02]
xavi	hi marclaporte	[14:03]
luciash	welcome back marc	[14:03]
chibaguy	Yeah, this update time is a good time to fix various errors. hi marclaporte.	[14:03]
xavi	well, I just hacked the whole thing by creating that twist-banner3.jpg that was missing....	[14:04]
chibaguy	Well, in the end, whatever works is good. (but probably the one-image method is better. ;-) )	[14:05]
xavi	:-) well, but your new approach seems better yes, I agree, one-image approach is better :-) I didn't know how to do that myself... slow learning biologist here... ;-)	[14:05]
marclaporte	marclaporte is throwing an idea can we swap dogfood another theme on doc & dev.two? (Just for fun?)	[14:07]
chibaguy	It's pretty simple once you see how it works. I should do a wiki page on it.	[14:07]
marclaporte	marclaporte remembers having lots of biology/science books as a kid	[14:08]
luciash	seems marc is boring ;)	[14:08]
marclaporte	hahahaha	[14:08]
chibaguy	Sure, marc, we always want more tiki fun. :-)	[14:09]
luciash	don't do it on doc	[14:09]
chibaguy	I need to talk to amette about themes.tw.o.	[14:09]
luciash	maybe on community or dev site only	[14:09]
amette	chibaguy: yup!	[14:09]
chibaguy	Hey, amette!	[14:09]
luciash	hey bro, you're alive ?	[14:09]
amette	I was busy in the last days and I'm still wondering about creating one more machine... ... but I today worked on the themes.tw.o server and we really should just do the move...	[14:10]
chibaguy	I think so too.	[14:10]
amette	luciash: yup, still alive, but little kicking... we again got an Oracle RAC dead here... :( chibaguy: what was missing on themes.tw.o? I'll fix that, then we testdrive it some more and then we will have to shut down themes(disable logins) and do a final migration...	[14:10]
chibaguy	The main problem is that there are a bunch of stylesheets to demo the older themes and new themes. Not all of the old ones will work with 3.0beta. We need a method to add new themes and probably remove some old ones.	[14:12]
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chibaguy	Before, this was via ftp.	[14:13]
amette	chibaguy: I can give you SSH-access..	[14:14]
chibaguy	ok.	[14:14]
amette	.. themes.tw.o is good sysadm-dogfooding as there should be lots of changes, etc... ... so we will see on this not so high traffic site, how the system works out ;) and then roll it out to more critical sites..	[14:14]
chibaguy	true; if there are problems, it's not so critical.	[14:15]
xavi	sylvieg1, are CODE colors shown to you in tiki3 or tiki2? (not to me) sylvieg1, forget it. I'm just reading in doc.tw.o what the problem is.... I haven't manually installed the GeSHI package at the server... http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginCode	[14:15]
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sylvieg1	I do not have yet geshi on my local	[14:26]
xavi	sylvieg1, it works. I installed it, and I can use the colors=>css, for instance :-) amette, geshi would be a nice addon at doc.tw.o and themes.tw.o , which would allow to dogfood what we already suggest at http://doc.tiokiwiki.org/PluginCode typo in previous url, fixed: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginCode	[14:26]
amette	geshi? the syntax highlighter?	[14:28]
xavi	yes	[14:28]
luciash	cool	[14:32]
xavi	yes, very cool (it recognizes many many languages... and since it recognizes python language, it will recognize the "R" language, which I need to use for work, in the tiki I had to install in our university....)	[14:33]
luciash	does it highlight smatytemplates ? *smarty	[14:35]
xavi	and this is going to be cool for the other techies in our univeristy.... (I'm kind-of promoting Tiki in our university, and since Tiki 2.x can be installed and work fine enough so far since january 2009 - we didn't have mysql at our university hosting), I'm using our tiki installation to showcase what other departments and research groups might get if they use tiki....	[14:35]
chibaguy	Is geshi available to most tiki users? I wonder if it's good to dogfood it unless it is.	[14:35]
xavi	"available" ? wht do you mean, chibaguy ?	[14:35]
chibaguy	I mean on their servers.	[14:36]
xavi	IT'S AS AVAILABLE AS PLUGIN CODE IS oups, sorry for caps, my mistkae well, you can just install the geshi package inside your tiki install through ftp, as I've just doe	[14:36]
chibaguy	Oh ok, that's good. That's what I was wonder. wondering.	[14:37]
xavi	geshi was not available in our university servers (they even work only with php 4 still)	[14:37]
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xavi	And I've just upload the package through ftp, and voila, it works! we are promoting "r" also in many universities as THE free software statistical program to use..., and this allow to showcase r scripts in our websites for newbies...	[14:37]
luciash	geshi is not lgpl compatible ?	[14:39]
xavi	well, newbies, many students are taught R in their degress... luciash, according to the doc.tw.o page, it's gpl	[14:39]
luciash	i remember we have had color syntax highlighting for php in CODE plugin in some versions 1.x and i don't remember decision we started to support it only via geshi package then	[14:40]
xavi	maybe php highlight works out of geshi package... but for sure, css or higlights were not working without it	[14:42]
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xavi	ok, enough for today. Today I've learned many useful things! :-) thanks all for your help btw, for the record, I've updated that page: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Variable cheers	[14:46]
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xavi	hey, it works: http://www.ub.edu/optics/tiki/conversor I'm so happy! so far, minimum highlighting for R syntax, (just copy pasted the python one), but probably easy to hack thanks again for your feedback today! cu	[14:54]
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chibaguy	nice	[14:57]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17437 10/mods/trunk/themes/planetfall_tiki_3/ (12 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Planetfall theme for Tiki 3.	[14:57]
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luciash	sylvieg1: any idea what broke remember me feature ?	[15:04]
sylvieg1	last one working on the remember method... jonnyb on 01/26/09 ;-)	[15:06]
luciash	hihi :) must be cookie related	[15:06]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17438 10/mods/trunk/themes/planetfall_tiki_3/styles/planetfall/9DA6B3-1x1.png: [MOD] Missing image added.	[15:14]
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luciash	chibaguy: how come you're so long awake tonight ? ;)	[15:30]
chibaguy	Lots of work to do. :-)	[15:33]
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wikiman	Hi Folks. I'm having an emergency. Table './ema1_rpsea/tiki_pages' is marked as crashed and should be repaired I've tried importing a previous dump, but the error is still there. (I'm new) Should I try to repair? It happened right after a dump using PHP MyAdmin. Is this just a coincidence?	[19:03]
sylvieg1	repair the table it is mysql buggy aspect	[19:07]
wikiman	Any risks with repair, or is it fairly robust?	[19:07]
sylvieg1	repair command is pretty robust - never saw pb - but never know ... but if you have a dump should be ok...	[19:08]
wikiman	ok, I was able to import the dump to my local machine and it appears to be complete. Thanks, Sylvie.	[19:09]
	Worked like a charm. Pulse rate returning to normal ... thanks again.	[19:21]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17442 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: [ENH] Description respects line breaks	[19:23]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17443 10/branches/3.0/templates/modules/ (mod-blog_last_comments.tpl mod-last_blog_posts.tpl): [ENH] Much cleaner-looking with a break	[19:33]
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sylvieg1	is ajax autosave supposed to work on tiki editor?	[20:02]
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Mycomputer	Hello. I was wondering which option one must activate to have a "Life Traffic Feed" as used by tikiwiki for dummies http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php test	[20:16]
sylvieg1	I supoose it is some javascript - ask ricks99_ when he is around	[20:24]
Mycomputer	sylvieg1 : ok thanks. I will ask him when he is here :)	[20:25]
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ricks99_	you rang? @mycomputer: whats ur question?	[20:31]
Mycomputer	ricks99_ my question is how I can put a "Life Traffic Feed" on a tikiwiki website	[20:37]
ricks99_	mine is a js from feedjit.com just add it (via the js plugin) to a module	[20:37]
Mycomputer	OK thanks I will look at it	[20:38]
ricks99_	np more details here: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog.php?sort_mode=created_desc&blogId=26&find=feedjit&search=Find	[20:39]
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Mycomputer	great !	[20:50]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17448 10/branches/3.0/remote.php: global	[20:57]
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marclaporte	http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=50	[21:05]
sylvieg1	is it by design that the the show/hide left columns ... is not in the cokkie jar..	[21:07]
luciash	marclaporte: yay ! :-)	[21:09]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17449 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_bar.tpl: [FIX]magic: do not display magic menu if fullscreen	[21:47]
SEWilco2	Grr. I'm an editor and still can't persuade doc.tw.o that I can approve plugins.	[21:53]
marclaporte	hmmmm	[21:59]
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marclaporte	dev.tw.o is down? SEWilco2: : can you give details?	[22:04]
sylvieg1	perhaps editor do not have tiki_p_approve SEWilco2: I gave docEditor tiki_p_approve_plugin	[22:08]
SEWilco2	marclaporte: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Rss+Config is a redir page. Says editor must approve plugin. I'm not seeing approval tool. I wasn't seeing it...	[22:10]
sylvieg1	log out - login back doc.tw is stuck for me	[22:10]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 reloads page	[22:11]
marclaporte	so you see a button "View Details"?	[22:13]
SEWilco2	marclaporte: Nope, no "View Details". I reloaded and also tried logging out and in.	[22:14]
marclaporte	ok, I see what you see now hold on	[22:14]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 grips firmly SEWilco2 is in a maze of twisty permissions, all different.	[22:14]
marclaporte	SEWilco is only in Registered group a promotion is imminent hmmm Developers on tikiwiki.org	[22:17]
SEWilco2	That's not a very elaborate promotional music hum.	[22:18]
marclaporte	but not developers group on doc.tw.o ??!!	[22:19]
SEWilco2	I guess I'm just not well developed.	[22:20]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17450 10/branches/3.0/setup_smarty.php: [FIX]modules: no need to compute the modules if they are not displayed (I do not think we have ghost module)	[22:26]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 considers a wish list item for the missing ghost module.	[22:28]
marclaporte	SEWilco2: When you log into doc.tikiwiki.org, InterTiki should send your membership (to Developers group), but it doesn't seem to work	[22:29]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17451 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_bar.tpl: rollback 17449 - sorry - but the admin links are shown in fullscreen - that could be convenient - even if magic is not maintained	[22:29]
marclaporte	on doc.tw.o, I added tiki_p_plugin_viewdetail to Anonymous	[22:29]
sylvieg1	marclaporte: which group?	[22:31]
marclaporte	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-assignpermission.php?group=Developers -> tiki_p_plugin_approve tiki_p_plugin_preview	[22:31]
sylvieg1	did you check it is imporetd on doc?	[22:31]
SEWilco2	I now see "View details" button. I click Approve and nothing seems to happen.	[22:32]
marclaporte	Limit group import : Developers was missing	[22:32]
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marclaporte	marclaporte wipes the list SEWilco2: please logout and login to doc.tw.o There seems to be WYSIWYCA on plugin perm approval Anonymous have only right to tiki_p_plugin_viewdetail yet, they see other buttons (which don't seem to work) http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Content+Templates	[22:33]
sylvieg1	... I approveed the plugin ... in full screen 9 queries to display the admin panel - but 16.27MB memory - we are fatter and fatter	[22:41]
marclaporte	amette: : dev.tw.o not loading for me	[22:43]
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