[00:00] found it (i think) [00:01] yay (I hope) [00:01] it's my other favourite - the old sortable tables code :)) [00:02] (but was my fault when i moved it) [00:02] hehe [00:06] sso.. b2 today? :-D [00:06] it's already 7april here [00:07] b2 b4 b3? [00:08] *** mlaporte has joined #tikiwiki [00:09] luminoso: wanna take the lead on packaging b2? [00:09] on packaging? [00:09] or on testing? [00:09] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17827 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (header.tpl header_simple.tpl): [00:09] tikiwiki: [FIX] Repair broken plugin edit helpers when mootools on and jquery off [damage done in 17734, sorry] [00:09] tikiwiki: Old sorttable JS must go before mootools or window.addEvent() gets overwritten. [00:09] i triend to make a tarball of current svn and i failed [00:09] lol [00:10] * SEWilco2 offers more tar [00:12] SEWilco2 & luminoso: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/tikirelease.sh?view=log [00:15] i dont have ssh to my host to run sh scripts [00:15] and my gentoo box is to outdated [00:15] :-\ [00:15] jonny: I confirm fix works. Tks [00:16] jonny: on clean install of 3.0, B I U are not the first quicktag icons [00:19] no? [00:20] there are the expand/contract buttons, they're hard-wired to be first [00:23] you fixed upgrade script [00:23] but not tiki.sql (or maybe missing to run convertscripts) [00:23] ah - not tiki.sql [00:23] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:23] found a summary: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Canadian_light_aircraft_stolen;_Wisconsin_State_Capitol_evacuated?curid=124415 [00:24] wrong channel [00:24] hehe [00:24] ok, mlaporte, will do tomorrow (i see there other some other tweaks for them to do too) [00:24] tks [00:24] nitenite all [00:25] *** jonnyb has left [00:41] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [00:42] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17828 10/branches/3.0/db/ (6 files): [DB] convert sql scripts to be like tiki.sql [01:13] *** lq_785 has joined #tikiwiki [01:15] *** lq_785 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [01:32] 'night [01:32] *** mlaporte has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") [01:48] *** franck has quit IRC () [02:08] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:27] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [02:40] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [03:53] *** lq_470 has joined #tikiwiki [03:54] hi there [03:54] need some help with tikiwiki image gallery [03:55] anybody there to help ?? [03:59] *** lq_470 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") [03:59] *** lq_470 has joined #tikiwiki [04:02] I am having TikiWiki installed on Windows Xp, Apache. Phpinfo says Imagick enabled but still image gallery config says gd, imagich not detected. My thumbnails are bigger than my monitor :).. Can any body hep me with this ?? [04:05] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [04:08] anyone in there to help me ?? [04:11] *** lq_470 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [04:11] *** lq_470 has joined #tikiwiki [04:11] hi lq_470, you have to give people a chance. [04:11] ah [04:11] hi lq_470. [04:11] hi chibaguy [04:12] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17829 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (strasa/options/mono.css strasa.css): [FIX] Improvements mostly for IE7. [04:12] i am new to this chat... and don't know how to go about.. sorry if i am acting wierd [04:12] no problem :-) [04:13] where are you located, chibaguy [04:14] Chiba, Japan, just outside of Tokyo. [04:14] ok.. Great.. I am in india. Are you a tikiwiki user or admin ? [04:15] both [04:16] ok.. I was having fun with tikiwiki until I had this issue.. Imagic says not detected in image gallery config. due to this I am not able to get thumnails of desired size.. any clue ?? [04:17] Do you have Imagic installed? [04:19] yes, I am having tikiwiki running on WinXP, apache. I put the php_imagic.dll which i got from pecl 5.2.4 in the ext dir of php. now phpinfo says imagic enabled. but still the config reverts back to gd [04:20] I don't know about issues related to running Tiki on WinXP. I have this setup also, for testing, and can't even get image upload to work. [04:21] Anyway, even with GD, you should be able to set the thumbnail size, when creating a new gallery. [04:21] But you won't get image scaling, I think. [04:23] when i go to image gallery config.. both gd and imagick say not detected. but the selection is default to gd. I don't know if it is working or not. but when I upload the thumnails are of the same size as the image nomatter what size i mention for thumnails. [04:24] If gd is not detected, then Tiki can't make the thumbnails. [04:24] I think maybe there is a problem with your server setup. [04:25] ok.. so how should i go about ? [04:25] I'm no expert at server configuration. [04:25] ok .. where else can i look for hel.. [04:25] help [04:25] How did you install apache? [04:25] Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . [04:26] heh, 'help' triggers a standard message only. [04:26] i downloaded the the setup for windows from apache site [04:26] ok :) [04:26] Um, I'd recommend installing a package like xampp. [04:27] It has all the parts in one package. [04:27] ok [04:27] good luck, and come back after installing, if you have problems. [04:28] time to walk dog here. will be back soon. [04:28] *** chibaguy is now known as chibaguy|away [04:35] *** lq_470 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [04:35] *** lq_470 has joined #tikiwiki [04:44] *** lq_470 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") [04:44] *** lq_470 has joined #tikiwiki [04:45] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [04:49] GD: not detected imagick: not detected... please help.. [04:59] *** lq_470 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [05:23] *** chibaguy|away is now known as chibaguy [05:35] *** Sug4r` has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [05:35] *** luciash has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [05:55] *** jerkface03 has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [05:57] *** luciash has joined #tikiwiki [05:57] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17830 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (strasa/options/mono.css strasa.css): [ENH] Improvements for IE (todo: siteloginbar problems in IE6) [06:00] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [06:00] *** nevali has joined #tikiwiki [06:02] *** nevali has left "Leaving" [06:03] *** jerkface03 has joined #tikiwiki [06:05] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17831 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] IE7-specific sitesearchbar position not needed. [06:13] *** vkumar has joined #tikiwiki [06:20] i need some help with image gallery config. can anybody help me with this.. [06:22] how to go about in this chat ?? [06:22] anybody online ?? [06:24] help [06:24] Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . [06:33] *** vkumar has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [07:05] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:12] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17832 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (6 files): [FIX] .clearfix improved for IE7. TheNews css menus improved, esp. for IE. [07:14] poolom [07:17] * luciash is sorry to fall asleep :-p [07:24] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17833 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (16 files in 16 dirs): [FIX] .clearfix improved for IE7. [07:26] hi luciash. [07:26] you've gotta sleep some time. ;-) [07:27] true :) [07:27] hi [07:28] spoonypjk, (if you're around) is the problem with IE7 and thenews' menus in a recent branch3 svn? [07:28] I'm checking that now and don't see the problem. [07:29] (reported http://irc.amette.eu/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2009-04-06,Mon&sel=237#l233) [07:57] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [08:16] *** nkoth3 has quit IRC () [08:40] *** DawnLight has joined #tikiwiki [08:40] hello [08:40] how can i change the language in tw.o? [08:41] my language is Hebrew and it makes the layout RTL while only a few strings are translated so it doesn't make sense [08:52] DawnLight, the language settings are on tiki-admin.php?page=i18n [08:52] i'm talking about tw.o [08:53] ah [08:55] When you're logged in to the site, you can set your language preference at tiki-user_preferences.php. [08:56] When not logged in, you'd have to configure your browser language setting. I don't know if that can be done per-site. [08:58] thanks. i've changed my user agent [08:59] ok [09:17] hey, what's up with http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wysiwyg+Editor [09:19] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17834 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Make site header phpl menu horbar less tall so it doesn't overlap sitesearchbar; improve phpl menu in IE6. [09:23] There's a plugin approval process in Tiki 3, which doc.tw.o is using. Try the page again please. [09:28] thanks [09:29] do you know why it's in experimental in 2.3? [09:29] Because it was added to tikiwiki recently and has some problems still. [09:31] I don't use it myself, so am not sure. Maybe if you _only_ use wysiwyg editor, it might be ok. But trying to use both it and wiki syntax editing at the same time (at different edits) apparently causes problems. [09:34] Anyway, you should do some testing before relying on it, for sure. [09:36] i thought that this would be long taken care of by now] [09:38] I think it's improved in Tiki 3 (coming soon), but probably still has the experimental label. Apparently a wysiwyg editor and wiki syntax cohabitating in the same space isn't easy to manage. [09:41] * chibaguy wonders why the "::" syntax is displayed rather than wiki parsed at doc.tw.o.... [09:41] *** vkumar has joined #tikiwiki [10:09] is it possible to have multiple languages of the same page? [10:16] can someone explain "Users can switch between secured or standard mode at login:", please? there seems to be some confusion [10:16] HTTPS login is clear [10:17] and "Users can choose to stay in SSL mode after an HTTPS login:" [10:17] but the third option, "Users can switch..." [10:18] if i've set SSL login as required and set the second option to "no, they can't stay in SSL", so how can the third option be valid? [10:18] am i missing something? [10:27] these options are probably tested in a certain order.. [10:37] a link in page=i18n in 2.3 leads to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Internationalization which is which sais "Plugin execution pending approval" [10:38] that's the second time that i've encountered this [10:40] i'm not yet going to file bugs on all these issues. It's surprising that there are so many bugs in the documentation. [10:41] this makes it look like the doc.tw.o is itself in development [10:42] DawnLight, the doc site was just upgraded and needs to be checked. The plugin approval is a new feature and the approvals need to be done page by page. [10:43] yehhe security on doc.tw.org is a little too tuff [10:43] Doc.tw.o is running beta software. [10:43] i hope it's backed up [10:43] (so you are right in that sense -- it is in develoment ;-) [10:44] We want to test the code ourselves (as a project) before releasing it for others to use... [10:44] forgive me. i was angry. i expected to find documentation when i clicked the links in the tiki i've intalled [10:47] That's ok; it's understandable. [10:47] Obviously not all the bugs are worked out yet. [10:47] ..of new features like that. [10:49] there's some redirect problem at the page in your url above. Try http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Internationalization%20(i18n)&redirectpage=i18n [10:50] or http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Internationalization%20(i18n) [10:53] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie [11:00] *** vkumar has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [11:04] thanks [11:06] you're welcome [11:07] imo the docs regarding l10n of the tikiwiki software should not be put in the same place as docs about using the translation feature in tikiwiki [11:07] i think they should be put in completely different places [11:08] heya chibaguy.. going back through chat history.. im here now. [11:08] these are docs for software developers (translators) and the others are docs about admins and users [11:08] I'm only using 3.0b1. [11:08] not an svn branch [11:08] so its entirely possible it could already be fixed [11:10] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [11:11] DawnLight, you can make a post in the documentation forum at tikiwiki.org, if you like. [11:11] greetings [11:11] i'm not even a user, yet [11:11] spoonypjk, what was that about, again? [11:12] it's easy to register, to make a post. ;-) [11:13] ie7 and thenews [11:13] lemme scrollback further to remind myself fully [11:13] oh yeah, right. [11:13] ahh the menus yeah [11:14] I believe that's fixed now. [11:15] I should check if googlemaps is fixed too. [11:15] or even reported. [11:16] You can point IE7 at http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-index.php, if you want to check about the module/menu. [11:16] This is current branch 3 svn. [11:17] I'm actually on ubuntu.. but the machine next to me has ie7/xp.. I'll check quickly. [11:17] Still a few little visual glitches, I see. dang. [11:18] greetings, jonnyb [11:18] yeah a couple minor glitches.. the login box's remember me isnt wrapping properly on a lower resolution too. and the gap below the top bar.. [11:20] hi chibaguy [11:20] I've kindof switched the one im setting up over to tikineat to try to get things up and going.. and actually tikineat has a visual glitch too.. but only seems to be in firefox, on linux. (not firefox windows) [11:21] Hmm, I've got a break after the login button one one line and then Remember me, checkbox, and Register link on a second line. [11:21] Isn't that how it's supposed to be? [11:21] i thought tikineat was due for "mods"? [11:21] yeah, tikineat flatlined already. [11:22] That is, it is removed from branch 3, so probably isn't a good base for a custom theme. [11:22] the computer next to me is 1024x768 i think. the remember me thing wraps.. but the "a" is half cut off in the "for half a year" [11:22] ah [11:23] that's also my laptop resolution. I don't even see that text ;-) [11:23] oh really? oh man this is getting really hard setting up a site from 3.0 :( I know thats the risk you run with beta.. but it was half recommended that 3.0b1 was kindof semi-ready to sortof run with. [11:24] tikineat sofar is the one thats had the least problems for me. [11:25] nice balance between the columns too so the middle column has lots of space. [11:25] well, "for half a year" isn't in my page source, either, so I guess it's not a theme problem. [11:25] Did you try tikinewt? [11:25] (not a theme problem at my test site, I mean) [11:26] chibaguy: your test site is the one that I just looked at... [11:26] chibaguy: try logging out (are you logged into it?) [11:26] oh, that's interesting. [11:26] I'm logged in with some browsers but not all. [11:27] Remember me should only appear prior to logging in. [11:28] okay sorry.. what looked like a cut off "a" is actually "for 1 year" .. [11:28] the "1" looked like a cut off "a" from the angle i was looking at :) [11:28] sorry :) [11:28] i only noticed because i checked it out with firefox on my linux box. [11:28] Oh, you mean in the module; I was looking at the site-header login. Sorry. [11:29] ahhh [11:29] put it down to an id.10t error on my part. [11:29] <<-- id10t.. [11:30] you know i didnt even notice the login at the top of the screen. [11:31] Well, we dropped Tikineat and a bunch of other older themes because they use a table for layout, which is the olde way of doing things. [11:32] Yeah looking at tikinewt at the moment. [11:32] Overall pretty good. I think i opted for tikineat because of the "mono" option.. [11:33] If we keep Tikinewt, it's easy to transfer the options over to it. [11:33] (Tikinewt may be dropped due to aesthetic reasons. It's css file also generates lots of validation errors.) [11:34] Which are the 100% definite cleanest ones that will definitely be kept? [11:34] TheNews, Feb12, Darkroom, Strasa, Coelesce [11:35] They use the same tpl files and have pretty similar css basically. [11:35] cheers.. [11:35] Simple is also in the package but is more idiosyncratic and needs some updating. [11:36] I'll try to see what I can do with one of those. [11:36] With the theme option feature, it's easy to use an existing theme as a base, and just add a small css file to override and add properties. [11:38] can that css file be edited through the web? or only at the filesystem level? [11:38] Filesystem only, as far as I know. [11:38] thats okay. just checking. [11:38] I haven't tried the css web editing for a while. [11:53] cool I got one guy interesting in my google code proposal - code optimization :-) [11:55] i like the tracker integration into the wiki thing. far better than how drupal does it [11:55] imo, that is [11:56] but it does take a while to get a site set up [11:56] from scratch... perhaps profiles is the answer [11:56] but there are only a few profiles for 2.3, right? [12:00] DawnLight, profiles are brand new (in current incarnation) and are kind of a beta solution, at best. [12:01] Potentially, they'll be great for site setup. [12:01] thanks. catch you late [12:01] r [12:01] *** DawnLight has left [12:04] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [12:09] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [12:21] greetings jonnyb [12:21] hi luciash [12:23] marc pointed me at an IRC log where you were discussing improving the plugin edit and help panel - they really could do with some help! [12:24] i was thinking about using shadowbox to display the plugin edit form, and adding an autocomplete search to the help bit - what do you think? [12:38] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [12:47] anyone running the latest svn and googlemaps? [12:50] *** rlopez_ has joined #tikiwiki [12:58] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [13:12] *** sylvieg has left [13:14] @ chibaguy : I have an older site which had a theme based on the veryorange theme. It's now placed under the Legacy themes, so I guess I'm going to have to rewrite the thing... Is it best to use the Type1 explanation on your website and not use tables anymore? [13:15] beestje: Just hang out for another 5 years and people will all go back to tables :) [13:15] that's what I already thought about 5 years ago when they started to do this :) [13:16] hah :) [13:16] guess I was wrong ;) [13:16] you win some you lose some :) [13:16] *** sylvieg has joined #tikiwiki [13:17] *** nadine has joined #tikiwiki [13:17] hello... [13:18] ok, it says just ask... so here it is ... i've got a question about the tikiwiki calendar [13:18] Another problem that I have with that website, after updating from 1.8.5 polaris to 1.9.11 sirius and then to 2.2 is that I'm unable to access the gallery :/ [13:19] you're able to add participants to the event but is it possible, that the named aprticipants make a status change for their status for the event? [13:19] pictures are displayed in wiki pages when called from the gallery, but when i click on the gallery page itself, I get the following error message : Fatal error: Call to a member function list_visible_galleries() on a non-object in /var/www/ohmpi/modules/mod-last_image_galleries.php on line 11 [13:20] I think I better restart the entire upgrade proces and see where it goes wrong... [13:23] *** PrezKennedy has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [13:26] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [13:26] *** nkoth3 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [13:27] Beestje, sorry, I was eating. [13:28] @Chibaguy : Unless you where eating someone or something I know, you don't have to say sorry for that ;) [13:28] I think it'd be best to avoid having custom template files, and just have a custom css file for the theme. [13:28] heh, ok, I'm safe then. [13:29] so it's best to look at one of the following themes to learn form them ? TheNews, Feb12, Darkroom, Strasa, Coelesce [13:29] So this would mean using the *litecss layout mehtod. [13:29] or method even [13:30] Personally I think Feb12 is the easiest to learn from, because it has less theme-specific tweaking than the others. [13:31] Actually, there's an idea for future theme css, where we'll have one css file for layout, and then a second one for aesthetics. [13:31] The layout one would probably not have to be touched much. [13:32] The aesthetics one would be renamed and saved as the custom theme file. It'd import the layout theme, same as how lite/lite.css is imported now. [13:32] Nyloth and I talked about this at the last TikiFest, and others have talked about the concept. [13:33] Yesterday I split up the css, so have the files made. They need some checking, but should be ready to for helping theme upgrades pretty quick. [13:34] I'll put up some docs and the tentative files. [13:34] soon. [13:35] The process would start with what kind of a layout/design is wanted. If it's a Kubrick-style center content with side margins, there'd be an updated table-based tiki.tpl for that. [13:36] Otherwise, the default tiki.tpl would be used. I want to do a kind of graphic map for this. [13:44] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17835 10/branches/3.0/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] topbar suckerfish menu position and background fixed for IE7. (todo: fix module title bleed through menu dropdown, also happens in thenews.) [13:45] thanks chibaguy! also some promising cool theme changes for the future then ;) [13:45] re, sorry, got distracted again [13:46] Yeah, done partly for selfish reasons -- I'm tired of doing full css files for a new theme :-) . [13:46] But it'll definitely be helpful in general, I'm pretty sure. [13:47] jonnyb: of course, +1 for the shadowbox display... i wanted it for wikiplugin edit and for including image from file gallery but then i realized, that it's not that easy, because it is done via js popup window currently [13:49] i was planning to override the function (popup_edit_helper or something) in tiki-jquery.js [13:50] i'm sure shadowbox can take ajax/html like in an iframe [13:50] (almost sure) [13:53] *** nadine has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") [13:54] *** PrezKennedy has joined #tikiwiki [13:55] Anyone know what's going on with '::' (centering) wiki syntax? It's displaying instead of being applied in the current branch 3 svn. [13:56] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17836 10/branches/3.0/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [13:56] tikiwiki: [MOD] More quicktags reordering (added to previous schema as there hasn't been a release since then) [13:56] tikiwiki: Also updated tiki.sql [13:56] tikiwiki: Plus: couple of new icons & updated *get_strings [13:56] ik, no - hadn't spotted that [13:57] I saw it at doc.tw.o and thought that's weird, and then saw it at my own test site. [13:58] And speaking of plugin edit boxes, now they're displaying at the bottom of the page, and have no close icon, at least at my site. I wonder if other installs are doing this. [13:59] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17837 10/branches/3.0/db/ (6 files): [MOD] Quicktag changes propagated to DB specific SQL [14:01] chibaguy: in my local copy, preview still centers it [14:01] chibaguy: after save it's centered too [14:02] chibaguy: maybe just support for centering multiline content got broken ? [14:02] chibaguy: i tested :: only with one word now [14:04] chibaguy: in strasa wikiplugin edit works as before here [14:04] luciash, I didn't test it with new edits, I just saw that my pages, where it is used, display ':: content to be centered ::' [14:05] chibaguy: no idea, works her [14:05] e [14:05] The :: is displaying, on existing content. Same on doc.tw.o [14:05] chibaguy: i confirm in thenews theme the wikiplugin edit is b0rked [14:06] chibaguy: weird, i wonder, who did it :-p [14:06] I was looking at darkroom, when I noticed it here. [14:07] we cannot afford beta2 with these new errors :-/ [14:07] nice arrows in the menus now btw :) [14:07] true [14:08] css menus [14:08] I made some theme-specific variants. [14:08] ....of the jquery superfish image file. [14:09] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17838 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki.tpl: layoutshadows for tiki-center [14:10] luciash, does this layoutshadows thing work pretty well? I haven't seen any examples. [14:10] yep, i use it on menghao.cz [14:11] i'm about to add custom inputs still for it on l&f page [14:11] you use it for a graphic border? [14:12] yes, the decoration on left and right [14:12] and for the background graphics [14:13] Another question: is banner admin working ok for you? [14:13] it was working form me last time i tried week ago i think ;) [14:13] lemme test [14:14] *** Kimberliee has joined #tikiwiki [14:14] you mena tiki-list_banners.php ? [14:14] *mean [14:14] seems to work [14:14] what you mean chibaguy [14:14] Yes, to create a new banner and use the banner syntax someplace. [14:15] tiki-admin.php?page=ads works too [14:16] Hmm, ok, I wonder what's going on at my site, then. [14:16] yep, works on my localhost [14:16] what doesn't work for you ? [14:16] new banner creation ? [14:17] I can make a banner but the syntax doesn't display the banner. [14:17] chibaguy: I am using 2.2 and using your adsense2 directions created and uploaded the seperate .tpl and .php files. Previewed/ Assigned mod but there is no Google images being polulated. The Module is taking up the correct space defined, it's just blank. Any ideas? [14:18] chibaguy: i'm using {banner zone='test'} [14:18] I haven't checked that in quite a while, Kimberliee. It worked at the time I did it, but the Google adsense code might have changed since then. [14:18] It has and I modified it, no big changes. [14:19] Hmm. [14:19] just a new param, ad_slot [14:20] well, I can confirm that what I did before no longer works... ;-) [14:20] * jonnyb will be back later [14:21] I just want to confirm that I am not being an idiot. :D [14:21] Its been known to happen on time to time. [14:21] I was hoping somebody would do a smarter adsense module than the hack job I did. [14:22] I haven't tried in yet in 3, I am assuming there is no real changes? [14:22] I'd be quite happy with the hack job, if I could get it to work. heh [14:22] jonnyb: whould it be hard to have jquery accordion effect for this: http://www.menghao.cz/tiki-index.php?page=songs&bl ? [14:23] jonnyb: when you click the first song [14:23] jonnyb: and then second song [14:23] I haven't tried it in 3. I suspect it won't work unless somebody improved it, but that hasn't happened iirc. [14:23] jonnyb: would be great if it would close the first one with accordion effect [14:23] jonnyb: etc. [14:23] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17839 10/branches/3.0/ (36 files in 36 dirs): [FIX] Plural needed [14:23] *** DawnLight has joined #tikiwiki [14:24] irc makes me feel warm and fuzzy [14:24] but don't tell anyone [14:24] it's not just your computer vent fan, is it? [14:25] jonnyb: i'd like to usi it e.g. on l#f page when tabs are off, when clicking on the fieldset legend titles [14:25] s/usi/use [14:26] s/l#f/l&f/ goddamnit :) [14:26] hihi [14:27] that reminds me that i need to configure the speed that thing spins [14:28] luciash, what player are you using for the audio? [14:31] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r17840 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (comments.tpl header.tpl tiki-searchresults.tpl): [FIX]HTML validation [14:32] chibaguy: xspf mod (fixed it) [14:32] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [14:32] * luciash dicovered fancontrol today ;) [14:32] *discovered even [14:33] chibaguy: well son-of-a-gun, all of the sudden it worked. I didn't change anything??? [14:33] Sug4r: do you think Kimberliee didn't change anything ? [14:33] * Sug4r you think Kimberliee didn't change anything ? [14:34] hehe [14:34] pfff [14:34] wrong question [14:34] :-p [14:34] seems Caarrie gets woken up every time robots are talking around ;) [14:34] :P [14:35] jonnyb: making coffee ? ;) [14:35] Kimberliee, that's good. [14:36] luciash: With fancontrol can you make our fans give a standing ovation? :-) [14:36] SEWilco2: good idea, i'll try ;) [14:36] * chibaguy groans [14:37] SEWilco2: i tried to keep them more quiet only ;) [14:39] *** rlopez_ has quit IRC ("Leaving") [14:41] luciash: It's working. Good job. [14:41] heheh [14:47] luciash: late lunch, munching now - have a look at http://jqueryui.com/demos/accordion/ [14:47] :) [14:48] it's a one-liner - do in a {JQ} plugin [14:48] jonnyb: which file ? [14:51] Module titles bleed through IE7 suckerfish menu dropdowns in some themes but not in others. I can't find any signficant differences in the menu css and module css that the themes use. [14:51] hey, jQuery has got new logo ! [14:52] This is the kind of puzzle I don't like. [14:52] chibaguy: z-index is bad thing ;) [14:52] chibaguy: grab another box ;) [14:53] wooden or cardboard? :P [14:53] Well, as soon as there's something that can be used instead of z-index, I'm ready to switch. [14:53] ah, it's jQuery UI logo, sorry :-p [14:54] In this case, the z-indexes are always the same. But something may be causing IE7 to not recognize a z-index. But it isn't obvious (to me anyway) what that is. [14:54] chibaguy: i mean, tryto solve another puzzle if this one is too hard for you ;) [14:54] What? Let IE7 win? ;-) [14:55] *g* [14:56] i found out (IE6 at least) doesn't apply some css because of mixing selectors with contextual selectors (or how is the [] called) [14:58] so if you have e.g.: p.justify, .justify, div[class=box-data].justify {text-align: justify} it will not be applied on

even when IE6 understands it [14:59] only when you exclude the div[class=box-data].justify from the group [14:59] i haven't tested lately though if it is still valid for strict standards mode though [14:59] and *i hope* it shouldn't be an issue in IE7 [15:00] jonnyb: we definitely need this for textareas: http://jqueryui.com/demos/resizable/ [15:01] no, being an issue consistently in two browser versions would be too easy for us. Instead, we have new, different issues in IE7, to keep life interesting. :-) [15:02] why is the avatar only gif format? don't you know gif is non-free? [15:02] what's wrong with png? [15:03] Having so many little problems with most themes and ie7 at the moment. cant settle on one to modify. [15:04] spoonypjk, are these themes from branch 3? [15:04] 3.0b1 [15:05] should i pull down the themes from svn? [15:05] A lot has been done for the themes since 3.0b1 was released. [15:06] Yes, I'd get the latest files. [15:06] Also look at themes in mods... [15:06] would you suggest just getting the theme files? im reluctant to upgrade the whole setup until b2.. for fear of breaking more things. [15:06] sorry luciash, back now - how do you mean which file? there's a wikiplugin and a smarty one too - so if it's a wiki page just put it in the page somewhere. [15:07] if you need to edit a template use the smarty plug (they do the same thing) [15:07] Themes in http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/ with names ending in _tiki_3 might be interesting to you. [15:08] jonnyb: i'll try the smarty plug then, tnks [15:08] thanks, checking it out. [15:08] *** Comnenus has joined #tikiwiki [15:09] Um, you can try changing just the css file. There might be some selector misses because of tpl changes, though. [15:09] DawnLight: in fact you can use any format for avatar [15:09] But if anything is too broken, it's simple enough just to stop using the new css file. [15:10] Is it possible to merge two tikiwiki's? [15:10] or migrate the content somehow [15:10] thanks [15:10] jonnyb: is the syntax {jq ...}{/jq} ? [15:11] luciash: the url you sent looks like a regular wiki page, no? - do you want it on all pages? Or maybe it's more customized than it looks? [15:11] ya, documentation's in the source only so far [15:11] it automatically does the doc.ready thing, so you just need the middle bit [15:11] jonnyb: nope, i want it there for sure and also for the l&f and other admin pages [15:12] jonnyb: thanks, i'll try [15:12] it'll need jqueryui, which is quite big (i was thinking it should be off by default) [15:12] jonnyb: ? [15:12] jonnyb: so it will not work in default tiki install ? [15:13] at the moment feature_jquery is off (due to it being experimental) but when on at the moment everything (except spreadsheet i think) will be on [15:14] but if you check a loading profiler jqueryui slows the whole page down by quite a lot [15:14] i just want to know if it will work when jquery is on, or if it needs to get some mod still to have the accordion UI effect working [15:14] and (up to now) isn't used anywhere [15:15] i thought sortable is jquery ui too and it works in default tiki install, right ? [15:15] *** chibaguy is now known as dogwalker [15:15] no "mod" - just feature_jquery_ui [15:16] tablesorter is also separate - feature_jquery_tablesorter [15:16] ah, http://jqueryui.com/demos/sortable/ is different thingie [15:16] see admin/look/ui_effects (top bit) [15:16] sorry for my confusion [15:17] expecting to use one of those on module admin - one day! [15:18] so what all do i have to download and put into tiki lib/ ? jqueryui package + accordion ? [15:18] don't tell me all i have to do is just enable jquery_ui checkbox in tiki and it will work or i will feel dumber than i look :-p [15:21] *** nevali has joined #tikiwiki [15:34] *** Amorphous has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:34] *** amolgupta has joined #tikiwiki [15:35] not getting any reply from GSOC mentors... [15:35] what to do next? [15:35] http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-listmovies.php?movie=Wiki.swf&action=Display - i need to register to view movies? [15:36] can anyone help? [15:36] hi amolgupta [15:36] hello [15:37] amolgupta: sorry i'm very busy right now... i hope someone else will reply to you [15:37] is any of the mentors online>? [15:37] *i was hoping [15:37] okk [15:37] no prob [15:37] will ping u later [15:38] is any of the mentors online? [15:38] *** Amorphous has joined #tikiwiki [15:40] will someone please explain the sentence "The tracker will use the text field named Subject if any as subject and will use the user email or for anonymous the email field if any as sender" [15:41] ah there's an explanation. thanks [15:42] good luck @DawnLight [15:42] DawnLight, that "view movies" url contains broken stuff, as far as I can tell. But it has a link to http://tikiwiki.org/TikiMovies , which is probably more up to date. [15:42] *** dogwalker is now known as chibaguy [15:43] non so many people here, eh amolgupta [15:44] DawnLight actually I am here for help reguarding GSOC [15:44] but I see no activity here [15:44] what's that [15:45] * chibaguy scans back up a pretty long log of conversation. [15:45] Green Screen Of Cranberries? [15:45] Google Summer of Code [15:45] ah [15:46] :D google SOC!! [15:46] as long as i'm here i may as well ask: i've heard something about integration of forums and mailing lists. is that available in 2.3? [15:46] Yes [15:47] nice [15:47] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Forum+and+List+Synchronization [15:47] i'm guessins there's no internal mailing list application [15:47] just checking it out [15:48] yup i tries this mailing list [15:48] you must have seen my msgs recently if u followed [15:50] how was it for you? [15:51] is it robust or easily breakable by stupid mail clients? [15:51] no replies :( [15:51] DEAD end!! [15:51] you coulndn't set it up? [15:51] means the mailing list did not reply [15:52] but it worked fine [15:52] my msg came back to me in the topics list [15:53] Can anyone point me to a doc that explains how the SQL DB and tiki file galleries, pages, etc... are stored and named? I'm looking into taking a Tiki, and put it on another Tiki as its own category, with its own permissions, etc... [15:54] *** PrezKennedy has quit IRC ("Leaving") [15:54] looking for trouble, eh [15:54] yes, lots of it [15:54] only joking [15:54] I'm not, this sounds like its going to be horrible [15:54] i'm not a dev, sorry [15:55] But it's what I need to do :/ [15:56] My setup right now is a main tiki hosting several projects. But there's...I guess you'd call it a rogue tiki, which needs to go on the main tiki as another project. [15:56] maybe you can write a script that fetches the data from the old one via http and creates new content in the new one [15:56] That's what I was thinking. Is there some docs on how Tiki stores data so I can attempt this? [15:56] or just use the TikiMerge script [15:57] only joking. there's no such thing [15:57] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [15:57] I was excited for a minute. [15:57] forgive me i'm not controlling my self [15:57] That's ok. I think we're all a little off lately. [16:01] *** amolgupta has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:01] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17841 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce.css darkroom.css thenews.css): [FIX] Relative-positioned ancestors caused suckerfish dropdowns to be bled through by module box titles in IE7. [16:03] Comnenus, everything is stored in the database, unless you specified file system storage for images, etc. [16:03] *** amolgupta has joined #tikiwiki [16:04] I don't know how to merge two Tiki databases, though. Seems to me there'd be a lot of conflicts due to same id's already in use, etc. [16:04] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:05] chibaguy: thats what I was thinking. [16:05] Is there a lot of data involved? [16:05] enough so it would take a long time to re-enter everything manually [16:06] are all the tables and records given ordered ID's? [16:06] Trying to figure out how to connect the dots...maybe insert a category and some users and groups and connect it to the old data imported under a new ID....something to that effect [16:06] I think it depends on the table. Some things like file uploads have a hash created by date and file name, so they'd be unique. [16:07] But wiki pages have numerical ids. [16:07] tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17842 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] & [MOD] New pref GroupTheme to enable or disable the ability to change the default theme for a group. Also hide GroupHomepage setting in tiki-admingroups when the group homepage feature is disabled [16:07] can i see the tw.o bug tracker, please? [16:07] There's also 3 other people that have added information to the wiki and it'd be a pain to run around and try to ask them to compare everything from the old to the new copy if I did re-enter everything [16:07] dev.tikiwiki.org [16:07] assuming I even find it. [16:10] *** chibaguy is now known as chibaguy|away [16:10] Too bad mailin isn't working, so a web crawler can't use that to insert articles. [16:10] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [16:10] *** franck has quit IRC () [16:12] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [16:13] *** DawnLight has left [16:22] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [16:22] I got a problem here ... site comes up normally when I enter the site (as anonymous), but when I log in as admin the page goes all white - nothing! ... and browser says "Done" [16:22] *** Hansi|away is now known as Hansi [16:23] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [16:24] also, I got this error "svn: Failed to add directory 'templates_c': an unversioned directory of the same name already exists" when trying to do an update. could that be the cause? 3.0 site [16:25] is there an easy way to change the date format to DD/MM in the calendar? [16:26] @Hansi: delete your local templates_c directory, then re-svn up [16:27] @spoonypjk: i think u have to edit the template TPL. i dont think that the Tiki calendar fully respects your date/time format settings [16:27] *** snarlydwarf has joined #tikiwiki [16:31] thanks ricks99 . Done. seems templates_c problem is gone, but still white page [16:35] did u clear caches? [16:38] not specifically no ... guess u mean temp/cache then? cleared that now, still the same [16:38] no, in admin > cache [16:38] or manually tempaltes_c, modules/cache, [16:39] no can do, page goes white as soon as I try to log in [16:39] no errors, nothing [16:39] have u custmoized or edited the TPLs? maybe u have invalid smarty or php coding? [16:40] not on that server no [16:40] have enough php memory? [16:40] only thing I can think I have done is to install a few themes ... which has worked flawlessly until now [16:41] uhm ... how to check? php_info? [16:41] y [16:41] ok, brb [16:41] *** Hansi has quit IRC ("TikiWiki FTW! ;-)") [16:42] *** Hansi has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] Hansi: try removing or renaming the templates/styles/yourcurrentstyle/ dir - might have something nasty in it? [16:42] thanks ricks99 [16:42] if you got an old theme in there the templates will be out of date [16:42] >whatis mem limit [16:43] Error: No factoid matches that key. [16:43] >whatis php mem limit [16:43] Error: No factoid matches that key. [16:43] * Caarrie slaps Sug4r [16:44] Sug4r: whatis memory_limit [16:44] 'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP [16:44] i knew it was there somewhere ;P [16:44] :P [16:45] should add it as php mem, too [16:45] memory_limit=128M [16:46] @hansi: not sure. site works fine as anonymous, but after logging in as admin you get nothing? [16:46] and not using a custom theme? [16:47] ricks99: yeah and no. Site with the problem is tw3.rettvest.org [16:48] *** chibaguy|away is now known as chibaguy [16:48] Hansi, what about clearing your browser cache, or trying a different browser? [16:48] Or clearing cookies for that domain? [16:48] I' try renaming the theme dirs ;-) [16:49] I've got 9 broswers installed :-) same on several of them and on another machine [16:53] Did they all visit the site recently enough to have cookies or cached pages from the pre-update installation? [16:53] (I mean if any didn't, then it does indicate a problem with the site, and not local caching, etc.) [16:54] several of them, yes. Now I've cleared all cookies from iCab, restarted browser and still the same :-/ [16:54] Is the theme for the logged-in user the same as for anonymous, or different? [16:54] @Hansi: try logging in as admin. then on white screen manually access tiki-admin.php. [16:54] I'd say I'm pretty sure it's site-related [16:55] chibaguy: not 100% certain, but I think so [16:55] ricks99: same thing happens [16:56] do u have admin-only modules? [16:56] sounds like something that is showing for admin-only is breaking the site [16:56] and no customizations, right? [16:56] It's not critical problem, it's only my test site, though I would like to find out the cause ... [16:57] ricks99: some admin only, yes, but they worked before ... [16:57] since-last-visit module is an admin only default thing (i'm sure i've had this once, and i think it was an out of date template) [16:57] depends on what you mean by customization [16:58] have u edited any of the TPLs? [16:58] *rick is >always< forgetting to properly colse {TR} blocks, resulting in WSOD [16:58] jonnyb: that's one of the ones activated [16:59] yes, but only assigned to admins [16:59] *** macleus has joined #tikiwiki [16:59] ricks99: not myself, but I guess some combo of options and themes could make it bork on me? [16:59] jonnyb: true [16:59] What about logging in and trying a url with ?fullscreen=y appended? [16:59] Adding permissions for a group to be able to view a file gallery doesn't seem to be allowing them unless "Gallery is Public" is checked off. Unless I'm missing something. Anyone else having similar issues? [16:59] I have a part of a structure that I want to hide from everyone but me, how can I do that? [16:59] ... to avoid module display. [17:00] @Hansi: do u have any other users with admin-perms? [17:00] chibaguy: now we're getting somewhere! [17:01] I don't think I have on that site (but I will create asap) ;-) [17:02] I have a part of a structure that I want to hide from everyone but me, how can I do that? [17:02] Either that or it seems to not be applying permissions at all unless public gallery is checked [17:02] and just denying everything [17:02] @Comnenus: yes, must be enabled. will suercede specific perms [17:03] macleus, the pages to be hidden can have specific perms; I'm not sure if the structure links will show for these pages to nonallowed viewers. [17:04] they do, thats what I want to prevent [17:04] ricks99: unless gallery is public nobody is supposed to be able to see it, even if you apply permissions to a particular group? [17:04] @Comnenus: see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Image+Gallery+User [17:04] ok [17:04] if not set, the group requires tiki_p_admin_gallery [17:04] So I guess structure member links don't follow the what-you-can-see-is-what-you-can-access rule. [17:05] use categories [17:05] but I wanted to keep them all part of the same structure. [17:05] wouldn't admin_gallery allow them to do everything, not just view/download? [17:06] @Comnenus. y [17:06] @macleus: create a structure. then add only specific pages to your admin-only group [17:07] time to sleep here. g'night all. [17:07] non-group members should "skip" over these pages when brwosing the structure [17:07] *** chibaguy has left [17:07] is that how it's supposed to be? doesn't inherit permissions as I thought it would. [17:08] That is what I did, but they can still see the pages in the structure TOC [17:08] hmm. sounds like a bug then [17:09] @Commenus: the "Gallery is visible to non-admin users?", if not enabled, will override any specific perms [17:09] ricks99: I don't think I have it enabled. let me double check. [17:11] ricks99: Rather, it is enabled. And a group that has permission to view it can't unless the gallery is also Public. [17:11] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r17843 10/branches/3.0/templates/antibot.tpl: [FIX]HTML validation [17:12] ricks99: Before a group that didn't have permission to another file gallery was able to view it, but I think I got that figured out. I guess what I'm saying is none of the permissions seem to be getting applied with "allow non-admin" checked off, unless "public" is also checked off. [17:12] Instead it's just a denial. [17:12] do u mean "file" gallery, or "image" gallery? and what tiki version? [17:12] File gallery, 2.3 [17:13] though we had the same issue with 2.2 [17:13] d'oh [17:14] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:14] y, i think both are required [17:14] bug I assume? [17:14] explain the problem again (sorry) [17:15] Permissions are not being applied to groups unless "Public" is checked off. [17:15] bah ... seems it's related to admin access ... created new user with admin access now, still the white page on login [17:15] Regardless of whether the group is granted or denied access, it will just deny. [17:16] @ricks99: adding the pages to a category doesnt seem to make them disappear from the structure TOC [17:16] ok. y, as designed. "Gallery is public" will superced all perm settings. If enabled, only groups with admin access will be able to access the gallery [17:16] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [17:17] so the gallery isn't really public. [17:18] @commenus: correct, its the difference between private/public or in lamence terms. Mine/Ours [17:18] Shouldn't it be labeled "Gallery isn't public" then? [17:19] @commenus: no, what that option does is make it so that you can share your gallery as a group [17:19] thats exactly what I'm trying to do [17:19] turn on the "gallery is visible to non admin users" [17:19] It's already on. [17:20] edit the perms for the gallery [17:21] add view* to the specific group [17:21] now, the gallery should be visiible only to the gorup [17:21] @commenus: you can set individual permissions like tiki_p_upload_files,tiki_p_download_files, and tiki_p_view_file_galleries to a group such as Registered in order to give everyone the rights to share documents or such [17:22] @ricks99: agree? [17:22] I've assigned read/download/list to a group. I made a category for the project. I added the group to the category. I put a file gallery in the category. Wouldn't the group be able to read the file gallery if it inherits the rights? [17:22] categories carry their own perms [17:22] Or does "Public" really mean "allow group" [17:22] did u give the group permssion to view categorized objects? [17:22] yes [17:22] hmm, lemme check [17:23] category perms supersede object perms [17:23] then it should be working [17:23] I set up a category for the project so I didn't have to assign permissions on everything individually...just categorize it [17:23] is there a way to bulk remove all of your permissions from your wiki pages [17:24] y, but did u set the 4 perms for the *category* [17:24] getting a bit of the 'itis after lunch and feeling lazy [17:25] Under the category I have given the group view_categorized and edit_categorized [17:26] "category perms supersede object perms" did i say that? rverse that [17:26] ok. remove any gallery-specific perms [17:26] should work [17:26] keep the "is public" enabled [17:26] ok, let me try that. [17:30] hah, now i get blank pages after logging in too with latest 3.0 SVN :-p [17:30] ok this is making more sense now. [17:30] "is public" really means "accessible by non-admins, with perm" [17:31] then everything works and its not a bug. [17:31] y [17:31] needs a different label though :X [17:32] @ricks99: can you seperate a group from a structure once it has been added into a larger structure [17:32] "group"? u mean specific wiki pages? [17:33] groups <> structures [17:33] iirc "is public" meant is publicly listed in the list of galleries (even when it is just site images gallery for various site images display, so not meant to be listed as full featured image/photo gallery) [17:33] oops, bad engrish, sry, I meant can you seperate a substructure of wiki pages from the master structure [17:34] dont think tiki has notion of "sub" structures. pages can belong to multiple strutures. [17:35] luciash: public intuitively seems like "no permissions, everyone can access." Not a big deal, just think calling it public is misleading. [17:36] yep, it is [17:36] from tiki-admin_structures you can remove pages from structures (or entire branches) [17:36] Good idea, I should just create another structure [17:37] I seem to have only 2 options for category permissions [17:37] *** amolgupta has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [17:38] @luciash: are image galleries being deprecated in 3.0? [17:38] i vaguely recall reading something to that effect (and use file gallery instead)? [17:39] *** PrezKennedy has joined #tikiwiki [17:41] @ricks99: So I should take my wiki pages out of the structure and just add them to a category so that I can find them [17:41] @ricks99: or will having them in a category hide them from the stucture TOC? [17:42] y. and pls log a bug (or maybe already logged?) imho, structure browse path should respect category perms [17:42] ricks99: no idea [17:43] was that towards me ricks?? [17:43] @macleus. y, i thought you tried adding pages within a structure to a category (with perms only for you), but the structure toc showed the pages to all users? [17:44] I am in the process of checking [17:48] I don't get it ... as far as I can see now, I have unassigned all modules from admin ... and I still get the white page ... but when I add ?fullscreen=y it works [17:50] Hansi: heh, i get blank page even with fullscreen=y :-p [17:51] Hansi: i get blank page after logging in as admin now... logged out tiki works [17:51] I tried logging in as a regular user, that works [17:52] @ricks99: Nope, it still shows in the structure if you either make noone have access to the page through permissions, or add it to a category. Can anyone think of a workaround? [17:52] ok now I definatly found a bug. In upload file there is a drop-down box that lists folders. Folders that the user has no permission to are listed. The user really doesn't have permission to view it, I tested it. [17:52] Hansi: only thing i enabled recently in admin general was to display php errors to admin and now i get all blank with no errors and even no errors are logged to my log file (my php.ini setting seems to be ignored to log to file :-p) [17:52] Although its minor since the other stuff is working now. [17:53] I tried creating a new admin group with admin rights and unassigned all modules, still gets white page [17:53] have you disabled sefurl? [17:54] *** PrezKennedy has quit IRC ("Leaving") [17:54] is this when you first log in??? [17:54] luciash: I think I changed show php errors for one of my sites, don't remember which ;-) [17:54] sefurl disabled [17:54] seems my tiki development stopped for today because of this ;) [17:55] * luciash is tired to go to mysql admin to switch the php reporting off in prefs table :-p [17:57] Does tiki have a cache someplace I need to clear? It's also listing file galleries that I've deleted. [17:57] Comnenus: templates_c [17:58] luciash: I don't understand [17:59] Comnenus: there's the cache for smarty tpl files [17:59] luciash: how do I regenerate it? [17:59] @Comnenus: use Admin > Sys Admin /Cache [17:59] you can clean it on Admin > Tiki Sys/Cache [18:00] err, as ricks says :) [18:00] Thanks [18:03] why does tiki randomly put an extra / at the end of my domain i.e. xxx.net//tiki-removepage.php... [18:05] also, can you remove the 24 minute time limit on wiki entries??? [18:05] still listing galleries that dont exist. [18:07] @macleus: change edit timeout either in admin: wiki, or php.ini [18:10] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [18:17] tried deleting the whole tw-dir and re-svn-ing ... still white page [18:17] so it seems something in the db is borked [18:21] I wonder if I can comment out the drop-down list entirely....not a problem if nobody can see it. [18:24] Comnenus: you can maybe hide it via CSS or edit the tpl file [18:26] luciash: CSS is in styles/ and tpl is in template_c/ I assume? [18:26] there's only cached version of tpls [18:27] tpls are in templates/ [18:27] gotcha [18:28] if you want to edit it copy tiki-list_galleries.tpl to the templates/styles/yourstyle/ [18:28] then you will keep the copy of the original untouched [18:28] whew good idea, thanks. I had the original open. that could have turned out bad. [18:29] scratch that, I can almost guarantee that would have been a disaster. [18:33] Where does it say which style I'm using? [18:36] Admin > Look & Feel [18:39] *** lq_013 has joined #tikiwiki [18:41] before a few day's i started with working on a sitemap for tiki [18:42] first Idea with using a external tool end up in a disaster [18:43] this courced by permission on some struktures [18:43] *** jonnyb has left [18:44] *** tomb has joined #tikiwiki [18:44] next disasterpart is the rewrite seo engine wich produces some pages 4 times [18:44] each accessible in an other way [18:46] the sitemaptool from sourcefrge which makes analyse of the access.log produces much more shit [18:47] some things can be restricted in a config file but thats no god Idea [18:49] so my suggestion to solve some of this sitemap disasters is to cancel all a href=... where annonymous can't click to [18:50] this is more then recommented becourse all visitors and searchengines follow this links and get a 302 [18:51] with redirekt to login or whatever [18:56] i use external tool from auditmypc.com and it works great [19:00] why does tiki randomly put an extra / at the end of my domain i.e. xxx.net//tiki-removepage.php... [19:01] neone? [19:02] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has joined #tikiwiki [19:14] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17844 10/branches/3.0/tiki-login.php: [FIX]intertiki: use the current caps - like in normal login [19:19] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [19:19] how to you setup printing from wiki pages??? [19:23] Admin > Wiki [19:26] oI have that selected but when I go to print it says that I dont have access to that feature [19:27] ah, then you go to Admin > Groups and assign tiki_p_print to your desired group [19:28] I dont have that permission as an option [19:33] *** lq_013 has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [19:34] I did something http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2401 [19:34] You have no idea how proud of myself I am. I'm going to get more coffee. [19:40] :) [19:41] when backing up a tw installation, is is correct to copy the tw install dir and copy the tw dir under /var/lib/mysql or should I export the database via SQL? [19:41] macleus: I think "multiprint" is in Admin>AdminHome>Wiki [19:42] i simply dump db via sql [19:43] Hansi: You backup the database through SQL (there are several ways to do that). Backing up the software and files is a separate step. [19:44] Hansi: You have to backup the database to save the data. Backing up files saves the software and any uploaded stuff stored as files. [19:44] macleus: oh, i was pretty sure it's there but you're right [19:45] Hansi: What is stored in files depends on your configuration. Often one stores images and files as files rather than in the database because downloading is faster. [19:45] macleus: must be something else then [19:45] Its under tiki_p_wiki_view they combined it. Under that specific wiki page I only had tiki_p_wiki_admin [19:46] ah, yup, when you give specific per page permissions, you have to add all the rest to allow people to view, etc. [19:46] i thought it's yelling for all your pages [19:46] I installed the phpchat plugin, but dont know how to activate it [19:47] no, and I was only checking that specific page because I wanted to print only that info so after I checked another page I figured it out [19:48] SEWilco2: I know I need backup of both, but if I backup the database files directly instead of exporting them using (in my case) phhmyadmin, will that become a working backup or do I have to export them? [19:49] Hansi, you can try and if it's the same machine it can work, but better to export via mysqldump or other tool [19:49] ok thanks [19:51] *** ricks99 has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") [19:51] Hansi: Oh, you're talking about copying the files which contain the database? That's not a good idea. That's hard to reload in a machine of a different type, and the database might change while you're copying (and your copy might not work as a database). [19:51] I installed the phpchat plugin, but dont know how to activate it [19:51] rather USE it [19:52] Hansi: So always export as SQL, which can be loaded into a similar SQL server. [19:52] SEWilco2: Yeah, I was afraid of that ... a bit of xtra work instead of just copying the files ;-) [20:00] I installed the phpchat plugin, but dont know how to activate it [20:03] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:06] *** macleus has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [20:07] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [20:15] http://tw4.rettvest.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 is it possible to make the text start to the right of the lower picture and go on down from there? [20:16] sure, but we have no acces ;) [20:16] how do you specify it? [20:17] something to do with the {img src= width= height= align= desc= link= } ? [20:18] imalign=left [20:22] uhm ... can't say I ses any difference [20:22] see [20:25] hard to tell because i have no access to your page [20:26] aha, you mean you can't see that link at all? [20:27] bingo :) [20:27] sorry, I misunderstood :-) hang on ;-) [20:31] try now ;-) [20:33] ah, if you use description, the imalign will not work because it's generated nder the image in table iirc [20:33] you have to use {DIV(float=left)}...{DIV} wrapper then [20:34] *** macleus has joined #tikiwiki [20:37] has anyone got chat to work on their page [20:37] ??? [20:40] luciash: excactly what I wanted! Thanks a million! :-) [20:40] Normally I don't use description, so I guess no problem for me [20:42] Im having trouble getting phpfreechat to work [20:43] macleus: sorry, never used that [20:44] macleus: try minichat wiki plugin or include some third party flash/ajax/java in module [20:45] nuts [20:48] any suggestions for ease of use [20:49] {MINICHAT()/} [20:56] *** Comnenus has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [20:56] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [20:59] Hansi: If you're using 3.0 you might try my {IMAGE} plugin. It should understand imalign=left. [20:59] I am using 3.0 [20:59] ...but I got it to work the way I wanted ;-) [21:01] *** macleus has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [21:07] *** PrezKennedy has joined #tikiwiki [21:13] *** Kimberliee has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") [21:16] *** Macleus has joined #tikiwiki [21:17] Im having trouble getting minichat to work, I added the feature_minichat line to mysql. But it wont seem to load the module [21:22] *** PrezKennedy has quit IRC ("Leaving") [21:22] *** PrezKennedy has joined #tikiwiki [21:23] Im having trouble getting minichat to work, I added the feature_minichat line to mysql. But it wont seem to load the module [21:23] neone??? [21:43] Im having trouble getting minichat to work, I added the feature_minichat line to mysql. But it wont seem to load the module [21:45] *** lq_665 has joined #tikiwiki [21:46] *** lq_665 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:50] *** lq_815 has joined #tikiwiki [21:51] Bedtime here ppl ... See ya :-) [21:51] *** Hansi is now known as Hansi|away [21:51] nite :) [21:52] hello. anyone know how to turn 'tabs' back on in 'look and feel' - I turned it off and now the page just shows links, no data, so I cannot evren turn it back on... [21:53] *** Macleus has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [21:53] how do you turn 'tabs' back on in 'look and feel'? [21:53] --- [21:55] *** lq_815 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:55] *** DigTek has joined #tikiwiki [21:55] hello. anyone know how to turn 'tabs' back on in 'look and feel' - I turned it off and now the page just shows links, no data, so I cannot even turn it back on... [21:56] click on one of the link - it should expand [21:56] also, since the upgrade to 2.3 openID is not working... [21:57] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [21:57] it does not expand, tried a million times, though the code is there if you view it - I wass hoping to be able to edit the database entry but cannot figure out which one it is. [21:59] can you patch the database tiki_preferences [22:00] name=feature_tabs value=y [22:00] and log out and log again [22:00] I was looking at that one, but not sure which one has to do with tabs in look and feel [22:01] ok, logging out did not help, nor did clearing the cache [22:02] I see, the database is more than one page long... [22:02] tw is a big mama [22:02] Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . [22:04] DigTek: the problem appears only in IE, do you have option to open it in Firefox ? [22:05] orto desactivate javascript [22:06] I di dtry firefox, but had the same result... [22:07] weird, ok, it's possible in 2.3 it's not working but in 3.0 it works in FF for sure [22:08] witch JS off or go to FF menu View > Page Style > no style [22:08] hmm, will try FF again, though I changed it to y and IE is still just giving me the link - is 3 stable enough to use? [22:09] it works pretty well, just don't enable PHP error reporting ;) [22:10] OK, got that fixed in both, must have taken a sec for my server to update the file? [22:10] thanks a lot... [22:11] one more - OpenID is no longer working since I upgraded to 2.3 - anyone else have that problem? [22:12] haven't had chance to use OpenID yet with my Tikis [22:12] I get this error [22:12] Could not create the FileStore directory '/tmp/_php_consumer_test'. Please check the effective permissions. [22:13] but the folder exists with full permissions... [22:13] it also worked fine before the upgrade. [22:13] *** GillesMM has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [22:13] *** GillesMM has joined #tikiwiki [22:13] is there a script to set all the permissions again? [22:13] *** aardvarq has joined #tikiwiki [22:15] I also noticed the sidebar login does not work, when you login it says to go to the login page, the link to it opens the login box in the center 'frame' and then it works - but I thinkit did that even in 2.2 [22:16] permissions on folders ? setup.sh [22:17] how do I run that? sorry, never had to do much command line stuff... 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