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   DigTek: has anyone found that OpenID is not working after upgrading to 2.3?
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   DigTek: I get this error: Could not create the FileStore directory '/tmp/_php_consumer_test'. Please check the effective permissions.
   <br> but the folders exist and are writable
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   DigTek: OK then - no OpenID users? It worked fine in v2.2 - anyone?
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   DigTek: If not how about the right side login box not working and having to login after it gives a link to it in the main window?
   <br> :s
   <br> :O
   <br> how long has v2.3 been out?
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   macleus: Has anyone gotten minichat or phpfreechat working in tiki???
   <br> Has anyone gotten ANY chat to work???
   DigTek: I have not tried - looks like everyone else must have fallen asleep ;)
   macleus: probably,  what about email
   <br> I have no idea how to get that working
   DigTek: email? I guess I don't know what you mean - I use tiki to add misc features to my site, not really as an actual wiki so I am not a tiki guru for sure, it is on eof 4 CMS programs I use, along with 2 forum software packages, one of which is the main 'engine' for the site, not tiki...
   macleus: oh
   DigTek: there was a few real helpfull people on before, but right now it seems rather slow...
   <br> they helped me solve all of the problems I encountered after a 2.3 upgrade except for getting OpenID to wor again, but it is likely not many even use OpenID yet so I may be on my own there...
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   DigTek: how are you using email / what email functions did you want to have it do?
   macleus: I am emailing out article updates
   DigTek: should just work, have you set it up - tiki-admin_notifications.php - and made sure it is trying to send an email to your account? Mine only sends email when someone registers, and that works...
   <br> but you do have to set up each users that you want it to send an email to...
   macleus: no, I created a email server and sent one email to a distibution group
   <br> did you have to set anything else up?
   <br> stoopid minichat
   <br> I cant get it to display full screen
   DigTek: there is a few email options under general admin, but I did not have to change them, did you try to just have it send an email to you (maybe the problem is not tiki but the email server)?
   macleus: hmmm
   <br> I just got the white screen of death
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   DigTek: rename your current theme, that might fix it so you can get back in, usually that means you messed up some code...
   <br> I do not use tiki for articles,  I use wordpress for that so cannot test it here - anyway, I am out for today, hopefully someone with an answer to my OpenID problem will be around Wednesday. Good luck (and always save a backup so you can just reload the working files / database if you end up crashing it).
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   Feendrache: hi there i just got a question about the tikiwiki calendar
   <br> you can add participants to the calendar, but can they change their individual status for this event?
   <br> Like "acknowledged" for each participant?
   <br> and if there is no such function... wouldn't it be great to develop some more calendar-funcs for the tikiwiki calendar?
   <br> and sorry for my english :) since i'm german
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   luciash: pooh-lom
   <br> <u>Feendrache</u>: yup, that would be great, feel free to add your ideas/wishes to dev.tikiwiki.org
   Feendrache: moirnin :)
   luciash: :)
   Feendrache: ähm... mornin ... was that supposed to mean... ok... so since i'm not new at programming, but totally new with tikiwiki... how am i supposed to go from my idea to...???
   luciash: xhtml, php, smarty ?
   <br> join tikiwiki-developers list on sf.net
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   luciash: put your ideas first, then we can go though the ceremony to give you svn commit access :)
   Feendrache: ah ok :)
   <br> i'm mostly in php programming.. have worked with smarty
   luciash: great then :)
   Feendrache: so i will try to get my ideas straight and then post them in the list
   <br> but it's true that you can only add the names of the participants to the event and they just can stare at their name and do nothin?
   luciash: also you can play with branch 3.0 and trunk to get an idea about tiki
   <br> but i think you already did ;)
   <br> no idea, about recent features of calendar... i haven't tried it but i will try soon because i will need it
   Feendrache: so next question is, should i try to make it for 2.0 or for 3.0 ?
   <br> i only got 2.0 this far
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   luciash: definitely look at 3.0, it's possible calendar is improved there, but your new stuff will go to trunk, because 3.0 is about to be released pretty soon
   <br> except case it would be only really simple change/enhancement
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   Feendrache: ah... ok
   <br> getting the 3.0 atm
   <br> :)
   <br> will test the calendar there first, just to be sure my ideas are not there already
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   luciash: hi again
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   luciash: how to set up php error reporting in Tiki when it returns 0 by default and i get WSOD ?
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   luciash: found it
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   DawnLight: hello. what collation should i choose for my database? it's going to be a multilingual site using the tiki translation thingo
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   luciash: utf8
   <br> multilingual
   Feendrache: hey Luc still there.. i posted my ideas in the mailinglist...
   <br> checked the 3.0 of tiki, but the funcs in the calendar are mostly the same... not what i need
   <br> ;)
   luciash: oki :)
   DawnLight: thanks
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   Feendrache: test
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   Hansi|away: <u>luciash</u>: Are you still having you WSOD probem?
   luciash: Hansi|away: nope :)
   Hansi|away: I tried you update just now, and I still do :-/
   <br> you=your
   luciash: Hansi|away: i found out it was caused by my modifications to lang/cs/language.php and after svn up there came conflict and i postponed it but in the language.php file were written these diff chars like "&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;" so it caused PHP parse error of course
   <br> but because i previously have set in Admin &gt; General "Display no PHP errors" i couldn't get a clue what was causing it
   Hansi|away: my page is not multilingual (yet) ... is language.php still used?
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   luciash: <u>Hansi</u>: i recommend you to put error_reporting(2047); in the end of lib/setup/error_reporting.php file to override it and see the PHP errors if it's the same case for you
   Hansi: at the very last line?
   luciash: yep
   <br> I also found out why my server php error log did't work
   Hansi: gave me WSOD with one line: "Fatal error: Call to a member function user_has_assigned_modules() on a non-object in /var/www/tw3/tiki-modules.php on line 33"
   luciash: the directory where the php error.log file is written must be apache writable
   Hansi: but error reporting is off on my site
   luciash: ok, now you know what causes the WSOD ;)
   Hansi: so error reporting should be on?
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   luciash: <u>Hansi</u>: if it's not production server it should be on or set on Admin &gt; General to make it visible only to admin
   Hansi: the server with the problem is a test server
   <br> (thank god) ;-)
   luciash: so, check out the file /tiki-modules.php
   <br> if there's something odd or in some other which is required by the call of the function
   <br> might be there's error in the user modules feature too
   <br> you can disable it in db
   Hansi: what do I look for in tiki-modules?
   <br> I don' know any PHP ;-)
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   luciash: <u>Hansi</u>: i'll try on my copy first if i get the same error as you
   Hansi: OK thanks
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   Hansi: when I svn up, I get "G    lib/setup/error_reporting.php"   what does the G mean?
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   luciash: <u>Hansi</u>: i confirm there's error in Tiki when you enable "Users can configure modules" on tiki-admin.php?page=module
   Hansi: I have a tendency to do that, not sure if that's the case here .... hang on
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   luciash: G means it was merGed with your local change
   <br> <u>Hansi</u>: to do what ?
   Hansi: ah ... which was the line you asked me to insert
   <br> I have a tendency to enable that users can change modules
   luciash: you can now rm lib/setup/error_reporting.php; svn up --ignore-externals
   Hansi: I still get  "Fatal error: Call to a member function user_has_assigned_modules() on a non-object in /var/www/tw3/tiki-modules.php on line 33"
   <br> but a bit earlier I enabled error reporting
   <br> when I disable error reporting I'm back to only WSOD when I log in as admin
   <br> A friend of mine I talked to today gave me a "general" advice ... try replacing the database with one from a known working site
   luciash: <u>Hansi</u>: yes, because there is error
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   luciash: in the file tiki-modules.php, i'm working on it, but if you want to have the site back working, go to your database and change value of tiki_preferences table user_assigned_modules to 'n'
   Hansi: no haste, it's a test site :-P
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   sylvieg: what is the meaning of .form .. is it only for the left part?
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: ?
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: are you talking bout CSS ?
   sylvieg: in the admin panels sometimes there is .form - sometimes no
   luciash: .form means class form
   sylvieg: but do me put on the tr on the left td or on both td
   luciash: what "left part" ?
   sylvieg: the label gebnerally
   <br> generally
   luciash: put on whole table/div
   <br> i doubt it is really necessary
   <br> at all
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   -: Hansi will be reborn as caralluna ;-)
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   caralluna: test
   <br> yay ;-)
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: dunno what, but something was wrong in the db obviously ... restored db from my production site, now all seems well, even if I log in as admin :-P
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   luciash: <u>caralluna</u>: just don't go to Admin &gt; Modules and check the "A user can assign modules" again ;)
   caralluna: I think I wanna try that ;-)
   luciash: <u>caralluna</u>: not enough WSoD for today ?
   caralluna: nah ;-)
   luciash: <u>caralluna</u>: i still didn't find a way how to fix it :-/
   caralluna: I sort of do want to enable user assigne modules, just to se 100% that that is the culprit ;-)
   <br> I mean, I can just re-restore the db after :-P
   luciash: sure it is the culprit
   caralluna: I tried changing it to 'n' before I restored tha db ... and still no change
   <br> so I sort of wanna see for myself :-)
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   Feendrache: back to normal ;)
   luciash: :)
   Feendrache: ok three more minutes and i finished working for today ;)
   luciash: lucky guy :)
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   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: any idea about Fatal error: Call to a member function user_has_assigned_modules() on a non-object in /mnt/sda1/Devel/SVN/Tiki/3.0/tiki-modules.php on line 35 when $prefs['user_assigned_modules'] == 'y' ???
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i cannot find the problem
   Macleus: does anyone know how to get the mini chat to display the entire width of the wiki page?  Right now it is only &lt;----------------------&gt; this big
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: when one goes to Admin &gt; Module preferences and enables user can assign modules, it breaks
   <br> <u>Macleus</u>: add CSS for it in your theme
   Macleus: I did..
   luciash: .classofthechatplugin {width: 100%}
   <br> or .classofthechatplugin textarea {width: 100%}
   Feendrache: hey no guy here
   <br> ;)
   <br> totally female
   Beestje: so Feendrache... already 5 minutes of overtime? :)
   luciash: <u>Feendrache</u>: kewl :) welcome to tiki-not-so-many-girls club
   Feendrache: hrhr
   -: luciash is not female though ;)
   Feendrache: yeah... female programmers are strongly related to mythical beings and aliens ;)
   luciash: tiki girls, raise your hands up !
   -: caralluna does not raise hand up ;-)
   luciash: you see ? not so many of them here ;)
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: is it problem the function is in a class so it must have been called differently than $usermoduleslib-&gt;user_has_assigned_modules($user) ?
   sylvieg: sorry I do not follow the problem..
   <br> what is the problem
   <br> the assign user modules is probably bugged - it has always been
   -: caralluna has two female cats, does that count? ;-)
   luciash: the problem is when you enable the preference it yells: Fatal error: Call to a member function user_has_assigned_modules() on a non-object in tiki-modules.php on line 35
   <br> on tiki-admin.php?page=module
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: ^
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i remember times when it worked, now it fatals, so user has to restore in db
   sylvieg: sorry lost - which pref?
   <br> Users can Configure Modules  this one?
   -: Feendrache raises a hand up
   sylvieg: ah ok - got it
   luciash: <u>Feendrache</u>: sylvieg cannot raise hands, she's too busy with her keyboard always :)
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: thanks for looking at it
   <br> <u>Feendrache</u>: and Caarrie is away :-p
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   sylvieg: this should fix the problem
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: wow, that was fast, tiki goddes ! great :)
   sylvieg: I fixed so many missing globals - so 2 mn and hop :-)
   -: caralluna applauds for sylvieg ;-)
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   -: Feendrache greets the tiki-goddess :)
   Feendrache: nice to know there are other female programmers out there ;)
   <br> ok folks cu soon *waves*
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   rlopez_: polom
   DawnLight: is the search engine friendly url feature still experimental in 3.0?
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   hume: hi...concerning trackers: is there a way of exporting a tracker view or list of trackers, as csv or spread sheet file?
   marclaporte: <u>hume</u>: : yes
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   hume: marclaporte, ok...how? i can't seem to find it....
   Macleus: where are you supposed to install the css script in the theme .css to get minichat to work
   <br> neone???
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   Macleus: Is there anyone here???
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   hume: marclaporte, ok....found it in the admin trackers, thx.
   SEWilco2: <u>hume</u>: Thanks, I'll try to remember the existence of that.
   Macleus: where are you supposed to install the css script in the theme .css to get minichat to work
   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: I'd make a copy of the css under another name and try appending the minichat alterations.  Try try changing to that theme to see if it works.
   <br> <u>Macleus</u>: I haven't done it but that's how I'd test.
   Macleus: It seems like it isnt reading the css at all for my minichat
   <br> how fast should you see the changes?
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   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: You might have to flush cache and refresh browser.
   <br> <u>Macleus</u>: Admin&gt;Tiki cache
   Macleus: which one
   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: The first three...unless you're using 3.0 which has the single flushing tool.
   <br> Probably flushing tiki cache isn't needed for CSS changes, but if you're not getting expected behavior it's something to try.
   Macleus: tried it, its not working
   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: Probably shift-F5 will refresh browser.
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   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: OK, then apparently appending is not sufficient for whatever that CSS stuff is.  Switch back to your old theme to avoid confusion.
   <br> <u>Macleus</u>: Nobody else is piping up, so probably nobody else who is reading this knows more.
   <br> <u>Macleus</u>: Try asking again in several hours, when other eyes might be watching.  You can study CSS more in the meantime to figure out where that stuff might belong.
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   Macleus: my theme css is supposed to be root/styles/geo.css right?
   <br> if I am using the geo theme
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   SEWilco2: <u>Macleus</u>: probably.
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   amol: anyone applying for google summer of code
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03aproulx * r17861 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [MOD] Replacing some &lt;i&gt; and &lt;b&gt; tags for &lt;span&gt; with classes for best CSS manipulation
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03slordjette * r17866 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-wiki.tpl: [FIX] Typo (my first commit)
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   luminoso: :-D
   <br> lot's of development
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   Comnenus: I see that
   -: SEWilco2 looks for the commit by "lot"  :-)
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   mib_gkdubv: @niclone: Can anyone help me with phpfreechat???
   niclone: it's a long time ago for me
   <br> i've finished with the minichat module instead
   mib_gkdubv: I can access the phpfreechat through root/lib/phpfreechat but the plugin you created only leaves me with a chat is loading screen
   niclone: what is you're browser?
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   mib_gkdubv: firefox
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   niclone: is this one working: http://www.phpfreechat.net/demo
   <br> ?
   mib_gkdubv: yes
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   mib_gkdubv: I can run the chat through the directory but not through my wiki
   <br> err directory - the provided index.php page
   niclone: i don't remember how it work :=)
   <br> this is a wiki extension?
   mib_gkdubv: http://www.phpfreechat.net/advanced-configuration check this out
   niclone: yes, but in tikiwiki, how you invoke the phpfreechat in you'res pages?
   mib_gkdubv: 127.0.0.1/lib/phpfreechat
   niclone: you have to type something like {phpfreechat()}
   mib_gkdubv: I did
   SEWilco2: <u>mib_gkdubv</u>: If that chat is a module (which usually runs on the side), I think there is a module plugin if that helps.  Look for PluginModule
   mib_gkdubv: I have a chat loading box
   <br> I have the Plugin Module
   niclone: <u>mib_gkdubv</u>: if you don't need a bling bling chat with lot of features, try the minichat module instead
   mib_gkdubv: ...I cant get it to stretch to 100% width with my theme
   <br> Ive tried it
   niclone: well, there is probably a bug somewhere on phpfreechat, but I didn't look at it except the day i've commited it ;)
   mib_gkdubv: well, it works on its own, shouldnt it work on a wiki page???
   niclone: maybe, that's what for this mods was made ;)
   <br> do you have firebug?
   mib_gkdubv: yes
   niclone: activate it with network &amp; co
   <br> you should see an ajax query
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   niclone: look at the response content, maybe you'll see an html page in it, instead of a javascript content
   mib_gkdubv: its running the script, it just seems to be getting hung up somewhere
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   niclone: in the network pane, do you see a "GET tiki-phpfreechat_ajax.php?....." ?
   mib_gkdubv: yes, its red
   <br> 404 not found
   <br> neither of the downloads from mods.tikiwiki.org had that file
   <br> actually the download for the phpfreechat lib is only 8.1kb
   <br> I had to get the source files from phpfreechat.com
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   Macleus: that better, didnt realize I was running 2 chat windows for the same room
   <br> @niclone: do you have the original tiki-phpfreechat_ajax.php that I could get???
   <br> thats apparently the only file from the original post that I am missing
   niclone: ah, that shoud explain why it won't work :)
   Macleus: lol
   <br> anywhere I might be able to get that???
   niclone: yeah, wait a minute, i'm searching for it, i have it
   Macleus: you rock!
   niclone: i agree :)
   Macleus: its actually a really great looking chat program
   <br> if someone could fix the download on mods.tikiwiki.org, Im sure more people would use it
   niclone: the chat program isn't from me, i've just made the mods
   Macleus: I know...  ...but its still good none the less
   <br> very smooth
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   niclone: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/phpfreechat/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_phpfreechat.php?view=log
   <br> you can download it from there
   Macleus: I have that file, thats just the plugin
   niclone: direct link: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/phpfreechat/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_phpfreechat.php
   Macleus: I need tiki-phpfreechat_ajax.php
   niclone: ah oh, yeah sorry :)
   Macleus: lol
   niclone: :)
   <br> ahhhh
   <br> there is 2 mods
   Macleus: Im appently also missing a file called 1.9to2.3.css, any ideas???
   niclone: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/lib/phpfreechat/tiki-phpfreechat_ajax.php?revision=13140
   <br> 1.9to2.3.css is not from me
   Macleus: ok.  is it important???
   niclone: no idea
   <br> not for you're actual problem
   Macleus: that fixed it
   niclone: cool
   Macleus: I just need to tweak some params in the plugin and I will be kicking some rear
   <br> thank you  so much
   -: niclone repeair the module description to include correctly this file
   Macleus: ???
   <br> the file on mods.tikiwiki.org does not have any of the files that it is supposed to have in it.  you may want to check that out also
   niclone: there are 2 mods : the lib, and the wikiplugin
   DawnLight: is tiki supposed to be valid xhtml1 transitional?
   CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17869 10/branches/3.0/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]tracker: export only the fileIf for an attachment
   <br> tikiwiki: 03niclone * r17870 10/mods/trunk/Packages/lib-phpfreechat.info.txt: [FIX] mods description didn't include one file correctly, making this mods unusable
   luminoso: isn't time to release beta2? (please? :-p)
   Macleus: @niclone: try to download the whole lib, its only 8.1kb, its missing all of the phpfreechat files
   <br> not just the one
   niclone: hum, you're right, that's weird
   <br> so, how did you make it work?
   Macleus: downloaded version 1.2 from phpfreechat.com
   <br> and basically put two ends together
   <br> your plugin seems a bit flawed
   <br> what is $data used for in the function???
   CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17871 10/branches/3.0/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki/histlib.php): [FIX] wiki history: when saving a wiki page, the description has to be saved accordingly (tikilib.php). When rollbacking a wiki page, the description has to be rollbacked too (histlib.php). Bug 1395.
   DawnLight: hey, is tiki supposed to be w3c valid code?
   Sug4r: No idea.
   Macleus: no, its open source.  no one is going to pay for the w3c validation
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   DawnLight: lots of open source CMS are valid
   <br> it's one of the more important things to me
   <br> and it's not such a biggie
   luciash: <u>DawnLight</u>: yep, it should be
   <br> <u>DawnLight</u>: we appreciate any fixes towards xhtml validity
   DawnLight: i love the development model of putting everything in core but i'm finding more things i don't like in tiki
   luciash: i understand
   DawnLight: apparently, the features that are achieved are high quality and there're some neat ones
   <br> i'm counting on a translation feature for my site
   luciash: it's huge project and you'll always find things that are not perfect in it, but we all try hard to make it better every day
   DawnLight: but the facts that short url's are experimental and the debian and ubuntu packages were dropped seem like there's no one watching out over the important things
   <br> or at least what i see as important
   <br> i got to tiki using the wikimatrix site to compare and one of the things was it being translated to hebrew
   luciash: we don't have lot of people with developing skills with high knowledge in these areas but welcome if you can contribute at least some bits
   DawnLight: i'm not a developer, only a knowledgeable user
   <br> i can submit good bug reports
   luciash: yes, you're welcome to do so
   DawnLight: you think there're people who spend time going over the bug lists fixing things?
   luciash: sure, this was just fixed right now:
   <br> &gt;dewtwo 1395
   <br> &gt;devtwo 1395
   Caarrie: &gt;devtwo 1395
   Sug4r: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/1395
   <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/1395
   Caarrie: :P
   luciash: hey, you ... ! girl ;)
   Sug4r: NO.
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   luciash: <u>Sug4r</u>: sorry, it wasn't meant to you but Carrie :-p
   <br> *Caarrie :-p
   Caarrie: :P
   sylvieg: <u>DawnLight</u>: I personally go over the bug list - only when on the bugs I know in my  memory are fixed
   <br> :-)
   luciash: <u>DawnLight</u>: i tried to simplify the tracker mail notifications using the simple email option so now even it should be easier for devs to respond to the reports
   <br> dogfooding ;)
   <br> we're watching it :)
   DawnLight: thanks for the personal treatment. gnight
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   SEWilco2: Permission problem in 2.1 and 3.0!  A categorized object causes any perms being tested to be true when tested by user_has_perm_on_object()
   <br> I have a calendar which is erroneously getting TRUE when testing for tiki_p_add_events.
   <br> Because the calendar is in a category, the edit icons show up when they shouldn't.  Any object with a category and no individual perms thinks it has whatever perm is being tested.
   <br> I don't know how to fix.  A category can't have random permissions, can it?  Only a few category-related permissions, and not tiki_p_add_events or tiki_p_admin_users.
   sylvieg: perhaps it is only calendar - my local with test on categ/ wiki is ok
   SEWilco2: Is user_has_perm_on_object called with no $perm when only testing for category availability?  If, so, I can add a test for empty($perm).
   sylvieg: if $perm ='' seems to be a typo for me
   SEWilco2: I'm not seeing a similar failure example for wiki pages.  Only tests for tiki_p_view or tiki_p_edit combined with similar tiki_p_view_categorized or tiki_p_edit_categorized.
   <br> The problem is actually when a non-read permission is tested with either tiki_p_view_categorized because it's an OR test (if page is categorized then TRUE is returned while ignoring $perm).
   <br> If a blog can be categorized, blog posting hits the bug.  I don't recall if a blog has categories.
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   SEWilco2: I need to call it a day.  I'm glad I found the bug.  Maybe tomorrow I find a permission definition whose encoding will make sense as a solution.
   marclaporte: polom
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