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voraistos: I just installed the beta2
<br> multilingual features still do not work properly
Darkbee: I'm using v2.3 and I have a user who got locked out of their account (multiple unsuccessful login attempts). They get the re-validation email but when they go to the URL they get a "feature not enabled" message.
<br> tiki-confirm_user_email.php says if (!isset($prefs['email_due']) || $prefs['email_due'] < 0) but I don't know what "feature" email due is.
voraistos: <u>example</u>: I install tiki, restrict available languages to english, french and spanish. set tiki up with detect browser lang, user pref lang and user can change lang
<br> i set my browser for preferred language - french, and tiki won't let me
<br> see the damn thing in french
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voraistos: I had made some modifs in tikiB1, but too deep to work with all of tiki (just wiki and forum), and I managed to make the language (auto and manual) selection actually work.
<br> I'll take a look and see if there's anything that's obviously broken
<br> "Changing page language will also change the site language" is broken too
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voraistos: HAHA I found the problem ;)
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: quick bug report, setting "use database for translation" seems to break the whole multilingual thing. Note: after (de)activating it in tiki-admin.php?page=i18n , I get messages such as "preference language set"
<br> it even tells me "preference language set" when I activate db translation (and at the same time obviously breaks the stuff that make $prefs['language'] work.
<br> there seems to be some cock-ups with caching as well
<br> some things appear in french, others in english, and other thing in both french and english
<br> "preference Fonctionnalit� d�sactiv�e : lang use db
<br> (preference name: lang_use_db) "
<br> menu is in french, module such as login and "since your last visit" are in english
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Darkbee: I don't wish to talk over you voraistos but "email_due" seems to be the "Re-validate user by email after days" admin login option but this seems to be mutually exclusive of "Re-validate user by email after unsuccessful logins"
voraistos: can I ask what the URL your users are told to visit is?
<br> "when they go to the URL they get a "feature not enabled" message"
<br> Darkbee
Darkbee: on minute
<br> one even
<br> http://www.website.com/tiki-confirm_user_email.php?user=username&pass=3c7c507418046157ba1b60e639564e84
<br> that's not the real URL
<br> but it's what the URL looks like
voraistos: and you say validate by email is set ?
Darkbee: yes
voraistos: that's odd
<br> any weird permissions going on?
Darkbee: not that I know of
<br> some users are reporting that they're being logged out
<br> everything else seems to work fine
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voraistos: logging out is probably normal timeout
Darkbee: the workaround is for the user to use the tiki-remind instead
voraistos: see rememberme
Darkbee: I think rememberme works but other users say no.
<br> It's late, I'm tired. I'll pick this up tomorrow
<br> thanks for helping
voraistos: hmm wait up
Darkbee: ok
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voraistos: if #1 priority s to bring that account back to life it should be easy
<br> just pay a visit to the db
Darkbee: oh it's easy, like I said the user got that message and so said that they had forgot their password instead and got in that way.
voraistos: ok
Darkbee: so there are ways around the system
voraistos: You should file a bug report tommorrow then
<br> no one's around
Darkbee: but it would nice if they got locked out after some unsucessful logins.. it's a good security feature if someone is trying to access some elses account.
<br> I think I will.
<br> thanks.
<br> good luck with your language issues.
voraistos: no pb, and it's good feature indeed, avoids abuse :)
Darkbee: bye all
voraistos: I think I'll go for a fat tiki install
Darkbee: :)
voraistos: multitiki they call it I think :D
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MartinComeau: Hi Group!
<br> Just installed a Tikiwiki 3.0 version on bluehost, and when editing a page, I received the following... http://pastebin.com/d2b02e127
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MartinComeau: Anyone available for helping a bit?
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MartinComeau: Can anyone see my message?!
nkoth3_: <u>MartinComeau</u>: saw the message
<br> is this an upgrade?
MartinComeau: TY! Nope, a fresh install
nkoth3_: and you used the installer?
MartinComeau: Yes
nkoth3_: is this a tarball you installed from , or svn?
voraistos: so, you tried to create a translation of a page, right ?
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MartinComeau: No, just editing a page.
ricks99_: were there any sql errors when u ran the installer?
MartinComeau: Nope, everything goes right
voraistos: I got the same issue just an hour ago
MartinComeau: ok
ricks99_: tiki 2.4? or beta 2?
voraistos: is your page displaying PAGE_CONTENT or something similar now ?
MartinComeau: 3.0
voraistos: thats what I got
<br> beta2
<br> beta1 didn't have the issue
MartinComeau: ok, I can display a page, create a page, but cand edit it (meaning saving it)
nkoth3_: voriastos, did you resolve it? something must be missing from the db script for upgrade to b2
<br> or I mean beta 2 install
<br> if it's replacable all around
<br> replicable
voraistos: I just replicated it
ricks99_: what profile?
MartinComeau: Sorry, have to leave :-(
voraistos: the page HomePage displays the normal default tiki homepage (hardcoded in tiki-index I think), however, when editing, it only shows "HomePage_CONTENT", when saving it gives this error, however, the edit works (in my case)
MartinComeau: I'll be back asap...
voraistos: default barebone profile
MartinComeau: idem barebone profile
ricks99_: did u enable any other options?
MartinComeau: Yes a few...
voraistos: in my case yes, quite a few
MartinComeau: images gallery, files galleries, calendar
ricks99_: try a fresh install. and see if u can replicate, without chaning any features
MartinComeau: ok... Now it works.. I disable a lot so, let me try to open them one at a time
<br> I'll tell you
nkoth3_: well, I'm looking at some of the code changes and really , on install, you should have this field in the db
MartinComeau: It is Categories
<br> I have enable 'Categories' function and I get the errorr back
voraistos: I didn't have categpories enabled, but the error was there
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MartinComeau: same with freetags
<br> Error is coming up also with freetags enable
voraistos: I just dropped my db to start from scratch
<br> and I get the error
nkoth3_: either of you have access to the database?
voraistos: oh yes
nkoth3_: can you check something?
MartinComeau: I have disabled freetags and categories and it works really well
nkoth3_: yes, the latest db changes was not applied somehow to this install...
voraistos: could it be related to value2 (description) being empty ?
nkoth3_: no
<br> can you see if you have this file installer/schema/20090205_forum_and_comments_locking_tiki.sql
MartinComeau: Have to leave, but ty!!!
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voraistos: I have it
<br> values('wiki page','HomePage','','HomePage','tiki-index.php'1239414375'page=HomePage','0','n',?)
<br> this doesn't seem valid
<br> values('wiki page','HomePage','','HomePage','tiki-index.php','1239414375'page=HomePage','0','n')
<br> this is more like it
<br> uh?
<br> my change didn't appear lol
<br> anyway, there's something wrong with the syntax, there shouldn't be anything after the last 'n' because this is the last argument
<br> value for comments_locked
nkoth3_: your db has any comments_locked field in tiki_objects?
<br> according to the error Martin posted to the pastebin, his doesn't
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voraistos: hmm no
<br> no comments_locked
nkoth3_: ok, that sql patch did not run. Maybe it was named wrongly
<br> it think it should have been 20090405 IMO
<br> I will send this to the dev who patched that to check
<br> in the meantime, if you run that sql manually, it might fix things
voraistos: yes you're right
<br> now the field is there
<br> and editing works without issues
nkoth3_: thanks for reporting this
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Eric_: does anyone know how to link two tikiwikis?
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chibaguy: hmm
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masterofcomputer: hello all
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masterofcomputer: does anyone know how to link parts of two tikiwikis that are sister sites?
chibaguy: That's what Intertiki does.
masterofcomputer: hhmmm
chibaguy: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Intertiki
<br> users who register at the master site don't have to re-register at the slave sites.
masterofcomputer: ahhh
<br> thats part of what i need
<br> i also need to know if there isa way to make a forum link to a forum on a different site
chibaguy: Not automatically, as far as I know.
masterofcomputer: hmmm
<br> cause meand a friend are going to run two sites
<br> his for general stuff and mine for computer stuff
<br> and i want to have some forums on his site link to ones on my site
<br> is there a way you could modify some of the data in the db?
chibaguy: If the link is static, you could edit the forum template to just add the url. If it's dynamic, that'd be harder.
masterofcomputer: it should just be static
chibaguy: The easiest way would be to make a module in the side column to display the links.
masterofcomputer: i guess
<br> iwas just hoping for pure intergration
chibaguy: Well, there isn't code for that by default.
masterofcomputer: are you on the devo team?
chibaguy: yep, mostly doing themes, css, etc.
masterofcomputer: I think that cross site linking would be a good feature to add
<br> i know how to add it i just dont want to screw something else up
chibaguy: What there is so far is the intertiki user authentication, and some short cuts for wiki page references.
<br> Nothing for forums, though, afaik.
masterofcomputer: afaik???
chibaguy: as far as I know
masterofcomputer: kk
<br> do you know the requirements for joining the dev team?
chibaguy: no formal requirements. you need a sourceforge id, and agree to the three rules - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=3Rules
<br> you should get on the tikiwiki-devel mailing list and get an idea of who's doing what, etc.
masterofcomputer: ive never been on a devo team before
<br> what is the best way to work on my idea?
chibaguy: Do you do coding?
masterofcomputer: yes
<br> Quite a bit of everything
chibaguy: well, you're welcome to join the tikiwiki project.
<br> also check out http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World for a little intro on Tiki coding.
masterofcomputer: But is there a place i should put my idea at before i start working on it?
chibaguy: If you post to the tikiwiki-devel mailing list, it'll be seen by the most people.
masterofcomputer: And how do i make sure someone else isnt working on a similar idea or something that will mess with what im doing?
chibaguy: On that mailing list, see what the feedback is. Also you can look at the subversion history of the files involved to see what the activity has been and who's committed, etc.
<br> This is the quiet time of day in this channel, and weekends are quieter than weekdays.
masterofcomputer: ok
chibaguy: So at busier times you'll get more feedback here, too.
masterofcomputer: is there a better irc app than chatzilla?
<br> free
chibaguy: I'm using www.mibbit.com in my browser. It works pretty well.
<br> But everybody has a different idea of good irc apps.
masterofcomputer: i need somthing local
<br> ohh
chibaguy: by the way, this channel is logged at http://irc.amette.eu/irclogger_logs/tikiwiki if you need to search or read back or whatever
masterofcomputer: What im thinking of doing might end up modifying some of the main fie[06:53] <masterofcomputer> files
<br> because i want to add a menu to the create forum menu
chibaguy: sure, just describe it on the list, I'd say.
masterofcomputer: kk
chibaguy: maybe people also have ideas on the best way to do it, etc
masterofcomputer: the coding in this is amazing
chibaguy: since they're more familiar with the code
masterofcomputer: ive never seen somthing so complicated yet so easy
chibaguy: well, that's good to hear
masterofcomputer: lol
<br> its just so different
<br> i should probably dl th svn to a folder
<br> *the
chibaguy: yeah. branch 3 is in beta and so only bugfixes are supposed to be committed.
<br> For new things, trunk is the place.
<br> branch 2 only gets security fixes.
masterofcomputer: so do my work on version 3 through the trunk?
<br> the trunk is 3b2?
chibaguy: no, the branches are separate from trunk.
<br> you can get a web view here: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/
<br> More info here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=SVNTips
masterofcomputer: the trunk is v4?
chibaguy: A branch 4 will be made from trunk, yes.
masterofcomputer: sweet
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masterofcomputer: so do you know a way of grabbing data from another sites db server if i want to show the # of posts?
chibaguy: not off hand
masterofcomputer: kk
<br> brb
<br> gotta restart
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masterofcomputer: im back
<br> i need the svn link for the trunk
<br> im getting errors when i try to update with http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/
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chibaguy: To checkout trunk, it's https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk
masterofcomputer: thx
<br> this could take a while
<br> do you know of a way to make an article from a post in a forum or vise versa?
<br> Im surprised that the dev group dosnt use a forum insted of a mailing list
chibaguy: really? with a mailing list, the posts come to you. you don't have to go and log in.
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chibaguy: (btw, there's a forum-mail list gateway feature, so it's possible to have two views of the posts)
masterofcomputer: But i have always found things can stay more organized in forum based dev groups than in mailing list dev groups
<br> and you can get a daily digest from a forum
<br> is there a way to put my idea into a mod or does it have r=to be part of the core?
<br> !help
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Tikiwiki|bot: meh
chibaguy: If your idea involves changing the files that display the page, like if you need to modify the template that lists forums, for example, then it'd be hard to do it as a mod, I think.
<br> Because it won't become part of the Tiki download, and users won't want to install a mod that replaces a core file, only to have the file overwritten again at the next update.
<br> If your idea sounds useful enough to be incorporated into the core code (and made optional, if that's logical), then it should be done there.
<br> I guess the answer is how useful would this modification be to what percentage of users?
<br> If only .05% of all Tiki site admins want to display forum threads from another Tiki site, I don't know if this would look like a very useful modification of the code.
<br> If there's a way to do that using maybe a user module that can be made by the site admin, without changing the templates, that'd be a better approach in such a case.
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masterofcomputer: sorry... went afk
<br> but itt would work with tiki to point at any other forum
Tikiwiki|bot: meh is bored from the lack of conversation
chibaguy: You can pose this to the list and see what the feedback is.
masterofcomputer: Good idea
chibaguy: I'm thinking most people won't want it in the same display as the internal forums, but would say put it in a module in the side column or somewhere. But I could be wrong.
masterofcomputer: is there any template for submitting ideas?
chibaguy: There's a "feature request" forum - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=All+Feature+Requests.
<br> Or you could make a wiki page at the dev site.
<br> But the most visibility for developers will be on the mailing list.
masterofcomputer: Thank You
chibaguy: sure. it's good to get new ideas, so good luck on this.
masterofcomputer: i put it on themailing list
Tikiwiki|bot: Is very happy to see new devos putting their ideas out in the community
<br> And learning how to use the bot
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latlink: v3.0 - While trying to select the forum list - the following error -> SELECT `comments_locked` FROM `tiki_objects` WHERE `Type`=? AND `itemId`=?
<br> I tracked it back to the Mysql install script not creating 'comments_locked' field
<br> To save me some time - can anyone tell me the field properties plse
<br> so I can alter the database now
masterofcomputer: I had the same prob
chibaguy: latlink, a new beta3 is coming out real quick with the fix. You can check the tikiwiki-cvs mailing list for details if you want.
latlink: ok - ta - i did check about 2 hrs ago so as not to waste anyone time
masterofcomputer: thx
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spoonypjk: beta3 coming out already??
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latlink: v3.0b3 - Thks Guys - Forums is fine now.
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spoonypjk: Well I've been stuffing around with tw and bw for about a week now and I still can't decide which to stick with. I keep finding quirks with both that sway me to the other. Havent worked out which things I miss out of each or prefer etc that's more important.
<br> decision would be a lot easier if gmaps worked properly. Really love trackers in tw.
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spoonypjk: tw community seems more active and faster moving too.
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spoonypjk: (not expecting any real answers.. just venting as I've been going around in circles frustrating myself :)
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caralluna: <u>spoonypjk</u>: Been there done that ;-)
spoonypjk: <u>caralluna</u>: Did you feel like buying a drawer full of sharp knives and throwing yourself onto them by the end of the week?? :)
caralluna: I think it's the third time I've gone back to tw ;-) Now with 3.0 it might seem like I stay here ;-)
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spoonypjk: gmaps is the big killer for me at the moment. I do need to get this site up and going pretty quickly.. I've delayed it enough (mostly because we've outgrown our current tools).. and gmaps wouldve been very useful for what we're doing.
caralluna: lol no not that bad, butr I have a BIG tendancy to go back and forth on decisions ;-)
spoonypjk: one option is to run with tw and try to fix it myself.. but in bw that work is already done and it really works nicely as far as gmaps goes.. But the trackers in tw seem infinitely useful to me too, which bw lacks completely :)
<br> I've had a lot of great help in the tw channel sofar too.. which is encouraging. bw channel was helpful too but people are around a lot less often there.
caralluna: I want the really best of stuff, so it seems I might end up using TW for the main framework and a few other things for gallery and wiki
spoonypjk: wiki is one of the main parts of what I'm knocking up.. and apart from WYSIWYG (which is kindof horrible).. the wiki functionality works quite well on both systems for me.
caralluna: The community is one of the big good things about tw, and a large factor for keeping me here ... and trackers of course ;-)
spoonypjk: I'm really suprised gmaps is so broken.. it would tie in brilliantly with trackers (and half does).. but no one in the tw community must use gmaps at all :(
caralluna: The image gallery is nowhere near where I want it, though is the file/image gallery under a major overhaul from what I understand
spoonypjk: yeah from what I'm told the image gallery is getting the boot and being replaced with the file gallery and beefed up.
caralluna: I am not even sure what gmaps is ... :-P
spoonypjk: gmaps = google maps
<br> you're supposed to be able to have a map of all users if they set their gps location. Plus create a tracker list and attach gps locations to any tracker item and then plot a google map from that..
caralluna: if the new image/file gallery gets the ability to read EXIF/IPTC info that is probably what might make me change my mind
spoonypjk: and all of that only half works.. none of the plotting actually works/saves etc. and some of the buttons do the wrong thing. So its not really useful for anything other than displaying a map with nothing on it. which is a real shame.
caralluna: ah, sounds nice ;-)
spoonypjk: I've tried having a poke around the code but havent been able to grasp how it all ties together and passes things around yet.
<br> yeah it would be great for a bunch of things I'm working on. Definitely the users map.. as we're planning starting up a physical space and would be handle to see everyones home location. And then plotting a list of possible places to rent etc would also be handy.
<br> Then when we're doing projects, or playing around with wireless links.. plotting those too would be useful.
<br> yeah the image gallery definitely needs exif etc importing.
<br> handle=handy
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caralluna: Does anybody know where I can adjust the default # of options are listed? f ex in tiki-admin_menu_options.php?menuId=x the default is 25, then it gets divided into several pages .... if I want this defult at, say, at 999, where can that be adjusted? (Preferably system-wide)
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marclaporte: polom
<br> <u>caralluna</u>: : it's the general items per page thing
<br> it used to be 10
caralluna: yeah
<br> should be about a million ;-)
marclaporte: tiki-admin.php?page=general
<br> Maximum number of records in listings:
<br> Should be next to pagination though
caralluna: exactly what I wanted, thanks ! :-)
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17932 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Moving __Maximum number of records in listings__ next to pagination settings.
marclaporte: <u>caralluna</u>: : dedicated to you :-)
caralluna: lol
<br> thanks :-)
<br> I really feel like I'm making a difference here ;-)
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uSlacker: marclaporte polom
marclaporte: hi!
uSlacker: been a frustrating week of poking around tiki & windows
<br> the odd thing is that your install is definitely active different than mine
<br> but there is a def. problem with tiki no knowing what directory it is running in
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uSlacker: it appears to want to create all its folders in the root of C:
<br> I tied & tried to understand it, but I'm going to n eed to pair with one of the installer people who really understand php
<br> but if we ignore that for now, can you point me towards some of the problems people were having after install?
CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17933 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [FIX] Move __Sender email__ to better place in admin panel. This setting is very important.
<br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17934 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-mods.tpl: [FIX] Correcting instructions
<br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17935 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-mods.tpl: [FIX] Correcting instructions. We used to have to have fix and open. I am not sure how relevant this is anymore.
marclaporte: <u>uSlacker</u>: no answer yet to your questions on the mailing list?
uSlacker: nope. But I'm patient. perhaps we could schedule some time with "them"
<br> sorry to do this, but gotta run