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| spoonypjk | hmm browsing a file gallery seems a bit messed up in b2 | [00:07] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17936 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Improving the installer 1-Link to human-readable and translations. 2-centering so continue button doesn't look out of place | [00:34] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17937 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [MOD] Preparing for an eventual Beta4 | [02:49] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17938 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-edit_help.tpl: [ENH] Adding an admin quicklink to activate/deactivate plugins | [02:52] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17939 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [MOD] Planning 3.0Beta4 | [03:09] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17940 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX]
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| tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17942 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce.css strasa.css): [FIX] Removing specific style info for help_sections as it's better to rely on the one in transition | [05:10] | |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17943 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-edit_help.tpl tiki-show_help.tpl): [FIX] Making edit help more intuitive 1- Merging two help boxes into one. Why? Two help boxes is confusing and plugins are just advanced wiki syntax anyway. 2- Help now open in one click instead of two | [05:51] |
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| Madmike | hello
im using a tikiwiki right now trying to get comments enabled. the idea being for the article to have information in relation to a project, and the comments for suggestions for improvement but cant figure out how to get them enabled | [05:55] |
| marclaporte | admin articles -> enable comments | [05:57] |
| Madmike | well, they are enabled | [05:58] |
| marclaporte | http://trim.ourwiki.net/tiki-admin.php -> click articles -> find "comments" checkbox | [05:58] |
| Madmike | but do not appear on the page anywhere | [05:58] |
| marclaporte | do you want wiki comments or article comments? | [05:59] |
| Madmike | article comments | [05:59] |
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| marclaporte | tiki-article_types.php -> each article type can have comments, or not
just to be sure: comments on wiki pages or comments on articles ? | [06:00] |
| Madmike | comments on articles yes. i think we have it working now though.
so what would be the easiest way to disable these comments on specific pages. like our home page shouldnt have comments, or any index list | [06:02] |
| marclaporte | so you want to prevent comments on specific news items?
index list doesn't have comments | [06:05] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17944 10/branches/3.0/ (db/features.csv lib/setup/prefs.php): [DEL] Removing wikiplugin_example.php because 1- It doesn't work 2- We have enoigh plugins to serve as examples. | [07:12] |
| tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17945 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_example.php: [DEL] Removing wikiplugin_example.php because 1- It doesn't work 2- We have enoigh plugins to serve as examples. Thanks pkdille. | [07:25] | |
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| tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17948 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-plugin_help.tpl: (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [FIX] Making edit help more intuitive and to handle better if javascript is not tikiwiki: available. 1- If javacript is available, removing the plugin examples in tikiwiki: listing on the right-hand side. Why? 1- This section is not very large and tikiwiki: already contains quite a bit on info. 2- We keep the description and this should tikiwiki: be sufficient for users to know if they are interested or not in each plugin. 3- tikiwiki: If they are interested and javascript is available, they click insert and they tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17949 10/branches/3.0/styles/feb12.css: [ENH] Improved phplayers and css menu details. tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17950 10/branches/3.0/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] installer: use the version available in lib/setup/twversion.class.php instead of an hardcoded version, to have only only central place to update when releasing tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17951 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce.css strasa.css): [FIX] Restoring help_section specific styles for 2 themes. Now identical to transition styles but the could diverge later. Thanks Gary and Pkdille | [08:25] | |
| spoonypjk | I still cant figure out why tiki-list_file_gallery.php or tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl is screwed when in browse mode in beta2, theres overlap and no thumbnails
I keep trying to make things work but i dont think I have to time to keep trying to fix so many things before being able to have a working site. I curse the person that told me to use 3.x instead of 2.x :) If I had all the time in the world I'd love to sink my teeth into things and really fix every issue I've got. | [08:44] |
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| marclaporte | spoonypjk: : I feel your pain | [08:52] |
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| spoonypjk | marcla: I was trying to be pretty open minded and overlooking some things that I really wanted (like google maps which dont work properly etc) because of some of tw's awesome features (like trackers).. but just keep running across showstoppers that I cant "launch" with (even though the sites for a closed group of people, it still has to work). Do you think I'd be better off going back to 2.x? | [08:55] |
| chibaguy | spoonypjk, do you have a 2.3 installation, or can you install it, and see if it has what you need? | [08:59] |
| spoonypjk | chibaguy: I had a 2.3 install but after installing 3.0 concurrently was unable to login to it (shared session name? cookie problem? something like that I assume).. I can easily reinstall it though. | [09:04] |
| marclaporte | interface on 3.0 is nicer
but more bugs | [09:05] |
| chibaguy | Probably during the beta period isn't a good time to decide between 2.3 and 3.0. Lots of bugs are getting fixed.
Of course people say never trust a .0 release ;-). | [09:09] |
| spoonypjk | yeah. I was really liking 3.0.. but it seems like each bug I hit is something that makes it hard to use if I was to open it up to the group... the inability to easily use the file library browse interface is the latest one (so makes it hard for people to upload images in a wiki or blog etc).
chibaguy: yeah I've started the evaluation during the worst possible time :) 3.0 is further enough in that it makes you not necessarily want to use 2.3.. but not far enough in to be useable (I'm sure for lots of sites its usable.. but I'd actually like to use a bunch of the features). the fact that I was also evaluating bw at the same time (being new to bw and tw.. of course you want to install both to eval both of them)... so I've had that to complicate things :) (ie. xx and yy works great in bw.. but it lacks a,b,c and d which tw does great). | [09:11] |
| chibaguy | what was the problem with the file gallery? a url like tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=1 ? | [09:16] |
| spoonypjk | yeah.
no thumbnail gets displayed for the images in there in this vers.. and there's overlap in most themes on some of the checkboxes/options. checking which ones | [09:16] |
| chibaguy | That's on my list to take a look at. | [09:17] |
| spoonypjk | http://www.mindrail.com/tiki3/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=1 | [09:18] |
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| spoonypjk | msg'd you l/p
oops that login doesnt have the right access to see the error.. hangon | [09:18] |
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| spoonypjk | hmm cant seem to find the right permission. | [09:23] |
| chibaguy | I get thumbnails in my installation, but these images were added quite a while ago. I'll try adding some new ones. | [09:25] |
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| chibaguy | Hmm, seems to work ok. See http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=1 | [09:29] |
| spoonypjk | does it also work okay if you're in a wiki page and you access the file gallery via the "add image from file gallery" button? | [09:31] |
| chibaguy | Heh, just found something weird: that url works, but starting from "list galleries," no galleries found.
well, I don't have "use filegallery for wiki image" turned on, so can't check that right away. | [09:32] |
| spoonypjk | where do you upload your wiki images to? | [09:34] |
| chibaguy | they go to the img/wiki_up directory.
That's been the default. | [09:34] |
| spoonypjk | and yeah im trying to sort out permissions at the moment (I had the file galleries locked down but I think ive overidden the permissions for anonymous and its messing things up at the moment). The testing I've been doing has been on the admin account, I hadnt opened that part up properly for the other groups or anonymous. (was trying to make it available to testuser2 just then). | [09:35] |
| chibaguy | But then the option to use the file gallery was added. | [09:35] |
| spoonypjk | anonymous could view files but not list galleries etc (which is what I wanted) but I think I affected testuser too. (but as I said these overlapping and no thumbnail tests are being done with admin.. so I can see the name of the file, and list the galleries and everything.. not a permission issue with admin).
do you upload to wiki_up outside of the wiki? and then go in and add images manually or something? | [09:36] |
| chibaguy | No, on my wiki edit page there's "Upload picture:" and clicking "choose" opens my local drive dialog.
When I choose and preview or save, the file is uploaded to img/wiki_up... | [09:39] |
| spoonypjk | ah. | [09:40] |
| chibaguy | There's an admin choice for this somewhere but I always have trouble finding it, for some reason.
Seems like it'd be on admin wiki or admin file galleries. | [09:40] |
| spoonypjk | The file gallery stuff had been working fine I think in b1. pretty sure. and b2 made little tool and zip icons etc overlap with the "perform action with checked" and cant see the checkboxes or thumbnail. its the same for most themes that I tried.
I'll take a look at the admin wiki section too tho to see the alternative. | [09:41] |
| chibaguy | Oh yeah, the checkbox is on tiki-admin.php?page=textarea.
(the inevitable location of admin options that can't be found where you expect them to be.) (or maybe it's me being inflexible ;-) ) What browser(s) are you using? | [09:42] |
| spoonypjk | firefox on linux, also is broken on ie7 on xp.
and firefox on xp. (ff 3.08) ie7 doesnt have as much overlap. and displays a "[X]" red X for the image, (the others show nothing for the image) | [09:47] |
| chibaguy | Can you try viewing http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=1 ? | [09:50] |
| caralluna | spoonypjk: Do you need browsertesting? I have 10 browsers installed on my mac ;-) | [09:50] |
| spoonypjk | yeah I checked that out earlier and you're right, that ones fine.
caralluna: hah. at the moment the only account I can test it out under is admin.. going to cleanup some permissions in a minute so I can recreate the problem publically. handy to know tho :) | [09:50] |
| chibaguy | wow caralluna, that must include some obscure ones. ;-) | [09:51] |
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| spoonypjk | I really only have ie7/ff on xp, and ff on linux (ff on linux is the main one I use. but obviously most others will be using windows most likely). | [09:52] |
| caralluna | spoonypjk: Yeah, U just tell me when ;-) | [09:52] |
| spoonypjk | cheers | [09:52] |
| caralluna | chibaguy: Yeah, I've installed all I could find ;-)
including two that afaik only exists for mac (OmniWeb and iCab) | [09:53] |
| chibaguy | chibaguy has, on this xp laptop, ff3, opera 9, ie6, ie7, safari, lunascape (japanese with choice of web engines), srware iron (google chrome without privacy concerns) | [09:55] |
| caralluna | you could add to that collection you know ;-) | [09:56] |
| chibaguy | ie8 on my desktop pc
also | [09:56] |
| caralluna | Opera, Shiira, Netscape,Webkit (I think it exists for Windows), Safari and Flock | [09:57] |
| spoonypjk | I havent seen lynx mentioned yet | [09:58] |
| caralluna | true ... and links :-P
Too bad Lunascape is Windows only ... sounded interesting ;-) | [09:58] |
| spoonypjk | I just want a browser that I need those stupid red and blue 3d glasses for. | [09:59] |
| chibaguy | Heh, I found http://www.browse3d.com/, but no mention of the glasses, unfortunately ;-) | [10:01] |
| caralluna | :-)
I'm frigthened when a browser has IE as a requrement ... Lunascape also had that requirement | [10:02] |
| chibaguy | bbl | [10:05] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17952 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (feb12.css thenews.css): [FIX] 100% wide .horbar caused it to not share line with searchbar in IE7. | [10:53] |
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| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03c_schmitz * r17953 10/trunk/lib/diff.php: [MOD]Set assertion evaluation to false to prevent blank screens with huge page diffs | [11:26] |
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| c_schmitz | happy easter everyone | [13:32] |
| caralluna | likewise :-) | [13:32] |
| c_schmitz | on submitting the same page in Tikiwiki I get sporadically a blank page
latest TW version oh nm there is already 2.4 hmpf ;) | [13:33] |
| spoonypjk | and 3.0b2 | [13:34] |
| c_schmitz | let me update first then ;) | [13:34] |
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| caralluna | came out a day or two-ish ago ;-) | [13:34] |
| c_schmitz | I see
I hope that will fix the problem although the content is saved it is annyoing | [13:34] |
| chibaguy | c_schmitz, it's always the same page? | [13:35] |
| c_schmitz | no different pages | [13:35] |
| caralluna | I did see a message that someone corrected something related to white pages, but that's all I can remember | [13:35] |
| c_schmitz | k
thank you | [13:36] |
| caralluna | np :-) let's hope it fixes your problem ;-) | [13:36] |
| c_schmitz | :-)
give me 20 minutes eh 10 thank god there is an incremental update apckage | [13:36] |
| caralluna | yeah | [13:37] |
| c_schmitz | looks better now
long-term usage will prove thank you and have a great day! | [13:41] |
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| avizion | Hi
I was wondering if anyone maintain the robots.txt, or is it just being updated at random? I see a LOT of hits on tell_a_friend.php from Google so I was thinking if this is a general issue... and if adding this page to robots.txt would cause anything bad | [14:04] |
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| pogotaube | hi
I'm trying to setup a tikiwiki, but i get the error message Cannot redeclare class Date in /usr/share/php/Date.php after the setupscript | [14:21] |
| mh okay i had to add /var/www/web13/html/lib/pear to the include dir
but now i'm getting an blanc site my memorylimit is set to 32M the errorlog is clear | [14:35] | |
| chibaguy | Sorry pogotaube, looks like people aren't really monitoring IRC. During the weekdays there'll be more people.
Also to avizion. Maybe gry again during weekdays, especially Atlantic daytime hours. | [14:41] |
| pogotaube | chibaguy: mh thank you i'll try | [14:44] |
| avizion | chibaguy: yea, np - just thought I'd share my "problem". I made a hack to my auto updater, so I always append 2 lines to robots.txt now ;)
but thanks | [14:46] |
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| marclaporte | pogotaube: : which version? | [15:05] |
| pogotaube | marclaporte: v1.9.11
marclaporte: mh okay i used the download link at http://de.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php, i'll try out the 2.3er | [15:09] |
| marclaporte | 2.4 even | [15:13] |
| pogotaube | marclaporte: hihi yes
evil trap.... marclaporte: also a blanc screen :-( | [15:14] |
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| xavi | polom | [16:04] |
| CIA-46 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17954 10/branches/3.0/lang/ca/language.php: installation / update process translated | [16:07] |
| marclaporte | pogotaube: : how about Beta 3.0? | [16:14] |
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| pogotaube | marclaporte: it works :) | [16:20] |
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| pogotaube | but ... it's a beta and i don't know how stabel it is | [16:20] |
| marclaporte | well, on this part, it's more stable :-)
Release is May 3rd | [16:30] |
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| pogotaube | hihi okay it doen't seem unstable to me, and i think an update isn't problamaticaly? | [16:33] |
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| voraistos | Hi
is it possible to have different tiki instances use the login facilities of one tiki ? (provided all instances use different dbs) Also I saw sumo want to have a language attribute in the URL I did some work on that and got something working If anyone want to see I'll go dig for my changes. | [17:57] |
| xavi | voraistos: review Intertiki feature (that's what it is for) | [18:00] |
| voraistos | k. | [18:00] |
| xavi | share login between tikiwikis (one master, other slaves) | [18:00] |
| voraistos | intertiki != multitiki ? | [18:01] |
| xavi | yes, !=
there should be some documentation at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/InterTiki | [18:01] |
| voraistos | found it | [18:01] |
| xavi | ok. and review the MultiTiki page, if needed, so that you see the differences
voraistos: lang attribute in url: if it's usegful for you in a real scenario/community, i t might be useful for others too. In that case, I would suggeest you to commit your code (provided it's made optional) | [18:01] |
| voraistos | well, it's not optional, though it could be made optional
also, it does change quite a few things | [18:03] |
| xavi | any doc.tw.o geek (editor) around? | [18:04] |
| voraistos | AND problem is, my code is very likely to be shit (and all of the features which require to have lang= in url must be changed) | [18:05] |
| xavi | voraistos: why did you made that change? I mean, what were you missing in order to make those changes? | [18:05] |
| voraistos | I wanted a multilingual tiki that actually works | [18:05] |
| xavi | do you think that your improvements would be also needed by other communities?
etc. | [18:05] |
| voraistos | also having a language attribute in the url means it can be urlrewritten to tw.org/language/wiki/
xavi: the sumo guys want to do it http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=performance also I agree the caching in http headers must be corrected http accelerators don't work with tiki, and since tiki is heavy and slow it would really be a plus | [18:06] |
| xavi | I would say that yes, on a multilingual community, it might be handy to be able to link to a specific page/section in an specific language... | [18:07] |
| voraistos | it also means that tiki can be properly indexed by search engines
I also suspect that the language tags in the html are mixed up | [18:08] |
| xavi | so you are very welcome if you make your improvements optional and commit your changes to either 3.0 or trunk (not sure if 3.0 is feature freeze already or not - it was not a week ago) | [18:08] |
| voraistos | I don't know...
I'm not very confident about my coding abilities I'm just a dirty hacker | [18:09] |
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| voraistos | I also need to find out how to use svn's other-than-checkout features :D | [18:11] |
| xavi | :-)
check svn tips at dev.tw.o | [18:11] |
| voraistos | yes I'll read that | [18:11] |
| xavi | and also some gui program to make it handy/easy ...
kdesvn, or tortoisesvn, ... (depending on your platform) those are easy programs to help you commit just your modified files, etc. through point anc click.... | [18:11] |
| voraistos | any good gtk2 clients you recommend
? | [18:13] |
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| voraistos | hmm I can't rememberhow I did it, but I have a tiki3b1 which out of index.php?language=en&feature=wiki displays the homepage(wiki)
languae switching works perfectly (detection of the euivalent page in the other language, switches content and interface language) oh no. I managed to break it. damn :P | [18:36] |
| xavi | gtk2: no idea. searh your distro's repos. I would suggest kdesvn
voraistos: ^ (sorry, I've been out for some time) | [18:45] |
| voraistos | I might as well install this one ;)
I think I'm going to just play around with tiki, transform it into... stuff, so I learn my way around, then I'll help out with v4, there's just no point in adding features (like those I want) to tiki3 now. btw, why is there a preferences:language in the db ? it seems useless | [18:47] |
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| voraistos | as there is a site-language prefs as well (and $prefs['language'] is modified depending on various things, else site-lang == lang
therefore this shouldn't exist in the db or maybe it's because the $prefs is just a copy of the db. yes I see now oh but there is a php file doing this too. (but I think this one is used to populate the db, in case a new feat. is added). right ? | [18:50] |
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| xavi | voraistos: I'm not the person to answer this questions you have.
I would suggest you to send them to the tikiwiki devel list | [19:10] |
| voraistos | what do you do for tiki ? | [19:11] |
| xavi | use it :-) | [19:11] |
| voraistos | your name is everywhere on the doc :D | [19:11] |
| xavi | and help a bit by improving documentation....
and attempting to encourage every user to participate, contributing back to the community.... with whatever skills they have and from time to time (long ago, right now), provide support on forums or lists voraistos, where are you from? for what you said you coded, you seem to belong to a multilingual country/community... (so do I) | [19:11] |
| voraistos | I'm french, and live in the UK
I want a site that supports a few languages | [19:15] |
| xavi | ah, ok | [19:17] |
| voraistos | where are you from ? | [19:17] |
| xavi | Barcelona
sylvieg , nkoth3 : intertiki seems not to be passing group info from tw.o to doc.tw.o nowadays.... | [19:18] |
| nkoth3 | hmm
since when? | [19:19] |
| xavi | :-/ check: user lindon on tw.o...
no idea I just noticed lindon on tw.o is already assigned to DocTwoEditors but on doc.tw.o, that user lindon is only assigned to Registered... and thus, he cannot use the perms he should get as granted from tw.o | [19:19] |
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Sylvieg, your fix to action log (so that categoried acn be edited) works very well. I did backport it to 2.x, but I'm hesitant to commit to 2.x, since it's not a security fix, etc. Maybe not (I'll use it myself just on my 2.x production site) cheers | [19:32] | |
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| luminoso | no beta 2 yet?
:-( | [23:45] |
| marclaporte | beta3! | [23:46] |
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| Comnenus | beta 2 is out
I couldn't find it on the site though, someone had to link me to the sourceforge download. | [23:58] |
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