#tikiwiki 2009-04-15,Wed

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voraistos	marclaporte: tiki3b3 tiki-custom_home.php says "Our latest stable release is Tiki 1.8 -Polaris- you can download Tiki from Sourceforge" :D customhome is meant to be changed by the enduser, but still ;)	[01:41]
marclaporte	hahaha yes http://trim.rclaporte.com/svn/3x/tiki-custom_home.php	[01:47]
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zero27esc2	!help	[04:01]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[04:01]
zero27esc2	Permission problems with Image Gallery. User is Jul, member of the group Jul. Group Jul has all image_gallery permissions, except admin. When I log in as Jul he is unable to see any of his gallerys. I've given the group Jul the tiki_p_admin_galleries permission without any success. I've followed the tikiwiki Smarties manual but I am not able to see the gallery except with the admin account. What am I doing wrong?	[04:08]
chibaguy	zero27esc2, what Tikiwiki version are you using?	[04:09]
zero27esc2	version is 2.2	[04:11]
chibaguy	Have you assigned the galleries to a category?	[04:12]
zero27esc2	I do not think so	[04:12]
chibaguy	If you have, there's a tiki_p_view_categorized permission that people often miss. But if not, then I'm not sure...	[04:13]
zero27esc2	Just checked, yes I did....	[04:14]
chibaguy	ah tiki_p_view_categorized is meant to be a way to give permissions more broadly than with the feature-specific perms. But can be a problem if you're not aware of it.	[04:15]
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zero27esc2	That did it! One stinking little check mark. Thank you.	[04:19]
chibaguy	heh, you're welcome.	[04:20]
marclaporte	polom	[04:20]
chibaguy	polomarclaporte	[04:21]
zero27esc2	Permissions in general: If I give the group tiki_p_blog_admin do they inherit all the other permissions: perm, post, create, read?	[04:24]
chibaguy	yes	[04:27]
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zero27esc2	I think I have another setting wrong... If I assign the group Jul perm, post, create and read blog permissions he can see the blogs. But when I assign the Jul blog_admin permission, the user is no longer able to see his blogs. What did I miss?	[04:30]
chibaguy	Hmm, let me check my site....	[04:31]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17985 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Horizontal suckerfish dropdown offset, other small padding improvements.	[04:33]
zero27esc2	Looking at my tikiwiki I do have categories enabled...	[04:37]
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chibaguy	This is frustrating.	[04:46]
zero27esc2	I've been at it for about a week... :(	[04:46]
chibaguy	I don't know if it makes a difference, but Tiki 2 is actually at 2.4 now (updated mostly for security reasons, I think).	[04:47]
zero27esc2	I can get it to work if I remove the admin permissions and set the perm, post, create and read blog permissions.	[04:47]
chibaguy	So I'll update my site and see if there's a change. I haven't been following the Tiki 2 changes very closely. But if there's a problem with perms, it'd be something that's broken that used to work. Which is particularly frustrating.	[04:48]
zero27esc2	My site is hosted under cPanel Shared, so I would have to have my provider to do the update. Unless cPanel has it out already...	[04:49]
chibaguy	I can't even get the non-admin perms to work right, in this test I just did.	[04:49]
zero27esc2	Oops	[04:50]
chibaguy	Actually you can probably upgrade with ftp, and phpMyAdmin for the database,	[04:50]
zero27esc2	:)	[04:50]
chibaguy	Not a one-click solution, tho.	[04:50]
zero27esc2	Yeah... I'm moving from VPS to Shared to save money and get away from all the hands on stuff. buying a house and not going to have too much time to get in a do all the tweeking I like to do. I unchecked the blog_admin permission and checked the remaining blog_xx permissions and everything is work... well for what I want to do.	[04:52]
chibaguy	Well, Tiki 3 will be out shortly and hopefully fairly bug-free, and propogated to hosting companies before too long.	[04:54]
zero27esc2	I haven't looked at 3... Is it going to be an easy migration?	[04:55]
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chibaguy	For sites that use old themes, there'll be problems until they update their custom stuff. For others, it's easy. Install and update is much easier than before. Site content shouldn't be touched at all by the upgrade process, as before.	[04:56]
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chibaguy	Well, I'll get back to Tiki 3 CSS tinkering and leave Tiki blog perm mysteries for the time being.....	[04:59]
zero27esc2	Sweet. I have no gotten far enough to play with the themes. Just want it to work. I got frustrated and started looking elsewhere... but kept coming back. At least I am familiar with how it works, if I could just keep my hand of those stinking check boxes. :smile:	[04:59]
chibaguy	:-)	[05:00]
zero27esc2	Thank you for your help... and work :)	[05:00]
chibaguy	Sure, no problem. Good luck with your house, etc.	[05:00]
zero27esc2	Thank you	[05:00]
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franck_	marclaporte: http://bret.appspot.com/entry/how-friendfeed-uses-mysql	[06:06]
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lq_531	I want to keep my wiki very private with 90% of it for myself and with just one blog viewable by 'registered' users. however, if they're 'registered' they seem to be able to see / edit all pages... any big check box to give 'registered' folks no initial permissions -OR- to have people that login not be 'registered' by default?	[06:53]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17986 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce/arrows-467aa7.png coelesce.css): [ENH] Site header, menu, My Tiki, etc. improvements.	[06:58]
chibaguy	lq_531, logged in users are registered by default, no way to change that. But you could remove the tiki_p_view and tiki_p_edit perms for the Registered group.	[06:59]
lq_531	thanks, but i don't know how to remove those two perms from the Registered Group. i would have thought when you go to the Registered Group those would be checked, and i could uncheck them, but alas, that is not the case. any other suggestions?	[07:08]
chibaguy	Can you look at the Anonymous group's perms? Maybe Registered is inheriting them from Anonymous.	[07:10]
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lq_531	someone else was more articulate in Bug ID 1074. he wants to "block" a registered user by giving them only anonymous permissions for reinstatement at a later date. has this bug 1074 been cleared? Here's teh link: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1074&trackerId=5&show=view	[07:16]
luciash	polom amette: don't you mind if i KIL or should we FIX simple theme ?	[07:18]
marclaporte	lq_531: : don't give Registered any perms	[07:20]
chibaguy	lq_531, as far as I know, there's no way to give "minus perms".	[07:20]
marclaporte	just create a group above So Registered means you have an account, but doesn't give you anything If this were a membership-based organization, it is useful for expired members,	[07:20]
luciash	marclaporte: Registered inherits all the perms of anonymous by default	[07:21]
marclaporte	You don't want to delete users from the system if they risk coming back	[07:21]
chibaguy	chibaguy wonders if Tiki needs a Penalty Box group.....;-)	[07:23]
marclaporte	hahahaha yes suspended account	[07:23]
chibaguy	Feel shame for 3 minutes....	[07:24]
marclaporte	we have banning system	[07:24]
chibaguy	Group theme is a MySpace skin.	[07:25]
luciash	you can do that with tiki banning	[07:26]
lq_531	i just found the banning thing... do you know how to activate it? its a work around but would be sufficient for my case. (i like the penalty box too!!! )	[07:28]
luciash	chibaguy: please, could you just do quick reply-to-all with something like done if you fix some padding or anything else marc sends by mail ? lq_531: activate on admin > features iirc	[07:28]
chibaguy	lq_531 http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Banning luciash, oh, yeah, sorry. I'll do that.	[07:29]
luciash	seems amette sleeps still :)	[07:30]
chibaguy	yep	[07:30]
lq_531	thanks all, seems to work ok for now! still, it'd be nice for to beable to assign permissions to "registered" like all other groups. more general case then. btw, this may be inappropriate on the web, but what country/city/etc are you in? I'm in the bay area and I should be sleeping!	[07:33]
luciash	europe here	[07:35]
chibaguy	hey, I'm in the bay area too. Oh, wait, Tokyo bay in my case.... ;-)	[07:36]
lq_531	cool, I mean SF! take care all!	[07:37]
chibaguy	ok :-)	[07:37]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17987 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Search bar can't be positioned relative to #header-top bottom because activating topbar custom code pulls search bar down onto login form.	[08:01]
zero27esc2	I'm up in Puyallup, Wa. Just So of Seattle. Installing beta 3 as I type. :)	[08:02]
chibaguy	chibaguy spent a summer clearing a pipeline right-of-way near Issaquah, Wa. a long time ago....	[08:04]
zero27esc2	I remember when it went though my back yard in Holly Park about 40 years ago.... dang I'm old.	[08:04]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17988 10/branches/3.0/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX] send newsletters: better test on uploaded files to avoid errors (eg. if file field is empty) tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17989 10/branches/3.0/lang/ (35 files in 35 dirs): [ENH] Text improvement: Cosmetic fixes (thanks, Marc)	[08:13]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17990 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] + [MOD] filegal_manager: The default behaviour was to open the file tikiwiki: gallery 1 (since r17715) which may not exist. Now, if there's only one filegal, tikiwiki: the filegal_manager opens it. If there are more than one, the fgal_manager opens tikiwiki: the list of gals.	[08:34]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17991 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] simple tracker notification: bring the unchanged Subject back, TODO: remove the rest of tra(), (still no idea where the notification mail gets the field names translated in)	[09:28]
luciash	amette: ping amette: svn up lib/trackers/trackerlib.php on dev.tw.o pls	[09:29]
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Beestje	I'm trying to make a tracker for following up on open items per division and subdivision. Is there a way to have two item lists, where one depends on the other? as in : when I select the sales department in the first listbox, that the second listbox only shows the subdepartments of sales?	[09:49]
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zero27esc2	chibaguy: Finished installing beta3. I am having the same permission problem I was having in 2.2. If I select tiki_p_blog_admin my user cannot see the blogs. But i I unselect blog_admin and select assign, post, create and read, he can see the blog. There are no categories for the blog I do have category's enabled. Will unenable and see if that make a difference. Unchecking Categories in the Global Features did not fix the problem.	[09:57]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17992 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] simple tracker notifications: translate e-mails correctly by watcher language (TODO: make it cacheable/use smarty template to improve performance)	[12:13]
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mib_q96cuq	chibaguy arouond?	[12:19]
chibaguy	hi mib_q96cuq	[12:19]
mib_q96cuq	hi, see the other tab	[12:19]
chibaguy	just back from dog-walking	[12:19]
mib_q96cuq	ah, nice :-) c u	[12:19]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17993 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: notice	[12:25]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17994 10/branches/3.0/templates/mail/tracker_changed_notification.tpl: for now just replace the strings in $mail_data marked to be translated by watcher language when simple email notification format not set in tracker, TODO: capture and translate them in smarty tpls too	[12:46]
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ChadDa3mon	Anyone know how to control who can approve Staged wiki pages? seems tied to the tiki_p_edit_categorized, however everyone needs that to be able to edit pages in staging	[13:14]
chibaguy	ChadDa3mon, did you check http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+Page+Staging+and+Approval ?	[13:16]
ChadDa3mon	Yea I got it working mostly, the only problem is everyone can approve changes they make	[13:16]
chibaguy	That does speed up the process. ;-)	[13:17]
ChadDa3mon	heh	[13:17]
chibaguy	I haven't tried it myself, so don't know if anything's missing from the docs.	[13:18]
ChadDa3mon	yea, I got some more fooling around to do I guess	[13:18]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03aproulx * r17995 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ADD] class param for fancylist and correction on tiki-articles.php (committed by mistake last week)	[13:26]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17996 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/breadcrumblib.php templates/tiki-listpages_content.tpl): [FIX]wiki: to have a page with name like lang[]=en&lang[]=fr correctlly displayed	[13:26]
SEWilco2	I wonder if ChaDa3mon's running 2.* and encountering the "any categorized object approves non-read/edit permissions" bug.	[13:30]
ChadDa3mon	Running 3.X part of it was saying "Put all approved pages in this category" but I don't want that	[13:34]
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ChadDa3mon	it did fix one small problem, but created others I'm tracking down Once I approve the page, the categories aren't getting set back to what they were well, the approved page now belongs to the "Approved" category, and the category it came from	[13:35]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17997 10/branches/3.0/templates/wiki_edit.tpl: [FIX]wiki: to have a data like lang[]=en&lang[]=fr - please test to see if no side effect	[13:41]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17998 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php styles/darkroom.css): [MOD]categ: put a class on the flipper to be able to be able to style (like put on the right	[14:10]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17999 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] installer: change strings that was too much splitted in order to have full sentences that could really be translated + french translation of the installer	[14:20]
stix	hi guys. If I check "Multilingual" in the admin-section. Where can the users change the language?	[14:21]
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MatWho	hi all you Tikiites	[14:28]
chibaguy	stix, check out http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=i18n+Admin Gives the details on multilanguage use.	[14:29]
stix	chibaguy, thank you	[14:30]
chibaguy	hi MatWho :-)	[14:30]
MatWho	hello	[14:30]
luciash	hello MatWho	[14:32]
MatWho	hi luciash: looking forward to London TikiFest!!	[14:32]
luciash	yeah ! :)	[14:33]
chibaguy	I hope you guys can have some kind of London TikiFest Live! show. :-)	[14:33]
MatWho	yes we will try, I have had a new Internet line connected with a 2 Mbit/sec upload speed so it should be posible to get better quality video out to all of you	[14:35]
chibaguy	We found that the microphone was a critical factor; kept bouncing around to different setups to get the best sound.	[14:40]
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chibaguy	chibaguy must remember not to refresh mibbit tab.... :-\|	[14:55]
MatWho	chibaguy: yes I know I have a proper conference phone which works with skype on the way so this should solve the problem. In the past the problem has been we have been using a handsfree phone, which switches off the speaker when it hears a noise, to stop feed back. A proper conference phone keeps both on (but shifts the frequency to stop the howling feed back)	[14:56]
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MatWho	chibaguy: yes I know I have a proper conference phone which works with skype on the way so this should solve the problem. In the past the problem has been we have been using a handsfree phone, which switches off the speaker when it hears a noise, to stop feed back. A proper conference phone keeps both on (but shifts the frequency to stop the howling feed back)	[15:03]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18000 10/branches/3.0/ (templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-adminusers.php): [FIX]users: a tiki_p_admin_junior can not change password of other users	[15:32]
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chibaguy	tiki_p_admin_junior ? chibaguy isn't keeping up...	[15:40]
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sylvieg	tii_p_admin_users - sorry	[15:55]
chibaguy	ah, I see.	[15:57]
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luminoso	testing 3.0beta3	[16:12]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18001 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-editpage.php): [MOD] Do not display approve and preview in plugin approval in preview mode (not usable) and only show plugin edit if javascript is enabled	[16:41]
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ChadDa3mon	Is there a log or debug ability somewhere? Tikiwiki isn't sending email and I'd like to find out why phpmail works fine, and the watches "say" they're emailing, but we get nothing	[18:09]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18009 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-custom_home.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] Custom Home: removing specific references to version numbers or image tikiwiki: gallery ID. This feature is a candidate for being pulled out eventually as you tikiwiki: can do everything in a wiki page nowadays. Could be useful for Splash pages with tikiwiki: totally different layout if it wasn't using tiki.tpl	[18:19]
marclaporte	ChadDa3mon: : check http://tikiwiki.org/userpagesylvie for testmail.php script	[18:20]
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ChadDa3mon	I don't see anything there for testmail I did find a generic phpmail test script that worked fine and during the install of tikiwiki, the email check passed just not getting any emails from a watch, and yes, the sender email is filled out tikiwiki 3.x	[18:26]
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marclaporte	ChadDa3mon: : http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=638&download=y	[18:50]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18010 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: syntax	[19:19]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18012 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-since_last_visit_new.php: sefurl	[19:26]
	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18013 10/branches/3.0/templates/wiki_edit.tpl: rollback 17007: to have back html like '<a>' when editing a user module -> lang[]=en&lang[]=fr sitll not working in a wiki page tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18014 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Moving wiki syntax from __wiki__ admin panel to __text area__ admin panel. Someone could be using Tiki without the wiki engine and still need to configure wiki syntax. tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18015 10/branches/3.0/modules/cache/README: [FIX] fix doc	[19:36]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18017 10/branches/3.0/robots.txt: [FIX] Instructions for robots were not identical with and without slash. To avoid this in the future, I reordered the instructions. Related: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish442	[19:43]
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luminoso	hi any developer in here? tw 3.0 b3 have serius problems on opera 6.64 with strasa theme	[19:53]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ .	[19:54]
luminoso	take a look: http://luminoso.ws	[19:54]
caralluna	caralluna is using Opera 9.62 for Mac with no trouble (guess you meant 9.64) ;-)	[19:55]
	Can't say I see much difference when Opera was upgraded to 9.64	[20:05]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18018 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Indicate which profiles are installed in the listing and replace forget option with reinsall	[20:07]
luminoso	caralluna, yes 9.64 left menu is on wrong place	[20:12]
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sylvieg	strasa + opera 9.5 + linux ok for me	[20:25]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18019 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Allow profiles to specify an instruction page to redirect to after installation	[20:27]
caralluna	luminoso: Tested with all my 10 installed browsers (for Mac) and all show the menu at the top of the left margin.	[20:27]
sylvieg	luminoso: clear your cache browser	[20:29]
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luminoso	sylvieg, i will testing.. oh.. worked fine sorry.	[20:50]
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sui	hi	[21:35]
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grobda24	Hello. Is there a way to mass admin comments on articles and shoutbox ? I just logged in and I have 2891 mostly spam comments ! LOL.	[23:17]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18023 10/trunk/ (169 files in 68 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17913 to 18022	[23:28]
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grobda24	So forget my request ... I just emptied the relevant sql tables :)	[23:55]
lq_276	Hello!!	[23:55]
grobda24	:O	[23:55]
lq_276	Anybody has experienced security problems with TikiWiki? When I am logged as admin and other people visits my site from another computer in the same network they appear logged as admin too (!!!) Help, please!!	[23:58]

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