[00:09] *** lindon has joined #tikiwiki [00:14] hi lindon! [00:14] how are you? [00:15] hi marclaporte! [00:15] doing good, thank you [00:17] my login doesn't work anymore on the demo site you set up for me :( [00:20] hehe [00:21] try admin/admin or admin/1234 [00:21] it's a test/throwaway site [00:21] I wonder how the weirdness happened though [00:21] all the weird characters [00:22] yes that was bizarre [00:22] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [00:22] i remember my clicks [00:23] so i may (or may not!) retrace my steps [00:24] You have seriously increased my motivation with doc.tikiwiki.org [00:24] *** tanjir has joined #tikiwiki [00:24] I think I have been working on it for like 20 hours during the last few days [00:25] great to hear [00:25] one thing i was wondering [00:25] is the plan to replace admin home with magic admin? [00:26] i'm in the demo - thank you [00:27] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [00:27] magic is on hold [00:28] Now that Ricks99 has done amazing job on the admin panels, it reduces need for magic [00:29] I would still want to do so we can have quick search of admin setting. Have an ajax select box. You type in a few letter and it lets you change a setting quikcly. [00:30] sounds good [00:30] mainly wondering from a documentation perspective [00:31] whether to maintain admin panel pages or transition to magic [00:31] *** AkaZn has joined #tikiwiki [00:37] another question [00:37] what does "List of Url Parameters that should go in the path" do on the SEFURL admin page? [00:40] whether to maintain admin panel pages or transition to magic -> good question. I think for now, we can focus on making each individual page/task/etc as good as possible. And then, once we are happy with that, perhaps a pattern will emerge [00:41] Some people want to read the doc end to end to see what Tiki can do [00:41] In other cases, they have an option somewhere in Tiki and they just clicked a link to find out more [00:42] admin panels change quite a bit [00:42] si it's tricky to maintain doc about them [00:44] List of Url Parameters that should go in the path: I don't know sylvie or slj will know [00:45] agree documentation on admin panels takes a lot of work to keep up to date [00:46] but it's also key documentation that users need help on [00:47] if magic is on hold, i'll concentrate on admin home panel documentation [00:50] admin panels will move a bit more before 3.0 final [00:51] so you may want to wait until May 4th :-) [00:51] esp for screenshots [00:52] good to know - will do [00:53] so apart being blocked to delete 40 pages or so, do you need anything else to continue doing a great contribution? [00:56] wish I could edit content templates [00:59] would eventually want to admin structures, but could also pose suggestions here instead [00:59] ok, I added the perms to your group [01:00] structures, you already had [01:04] you're right, i hadn't checked that in a while - thanks! [01:05] wanted to admin menus too [01:06] just to add to author resources for appropriate group [01:07] humm [01:07] when uploading an flv file the upload never ends [01:07] any idea about this? [01:12] marclaporte: also categories and dynamic content [01:22] marclaporte: just noticing that i now have a developer menu [01:23] yup [01:23] may not need to mess with menus then [01:23] thanks! [01:23] dev menu was not showing for your group [01:24] got it [01:31] 3.0 now has a perm to admin menu [01:31] before, only admins could [01:36] lindon: : I just added a whole bunch of admin perms (file gallry, menu, etc) [01:38] thanks man! [01:38] hopefully [01:38] one day we'll get this [01:39] to where you don't have to worry about the docs [01:39] and you can focus on the developer vision thing you do so well [01:47] thank you! [01:49] uploading an flv file the upload never ends : on doc.tw.o or elsewhere? [01:58] you can deal with tags too [01:59] how do you mean? [02:06] about tags? [02:10] you now perms to delete tags if you see any [02:10] I cleanup quite a few earlier [02:11] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:11] okay i see that now [02:12] what kind of freetags are you getting rid of? [02:14] just obvious errors [02:14] bots attemping to log in [02:15] got it [02:19] do you use full screen mode? [02:20] rarely [02:33] ok [02:34] So, once the cleanup is "done" (at this rate, it should be very soon) [02:34] After, we should have a discussion about process [02:35] This seems inefficient: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation+Status+Tracker [02:36] agree with that [02:36] good idea to discuss process [02:38] this would include translators [02:38] I think we can have less structures [02:39] One general multilingual structure which has everything in English, and overrides with your language if page is available [02:40] that does sound better for languages [02:40] we could mini-structures with most important docs [02:40] 5-10 pages [02:41] small enough that it's resonable to maintain [02:42] ... [02:42] lots of cleanup here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/WantedPages [02:43] wow hadn't seen that one yet [02:44] the language ones probably go away if you get rid of the documantation status page for each one [02:44] was also thinking about plugins and modules [02:45] wondered if these could be documented via a tracker [02:45] instead of a page for each one [02:46] easier to maintain [02:46] might not be sufficient though [02:46] documantation status page per lang : +1 to empy pages (or delete) [02:47] plugins & modules: we could also have something that links with tiki source code. [02:48] that's good [02:48] to encourage development [02:49] wanted pages: need to get away from documenting the world i think [02:55] too many general concepts, general definitions etc. wanted IMHO [02:55] too wikipedia [02:56] *** sm- has joined #tikiwiki [02:56] is there a module for an svn browser? [02:58] like the code activity on your main site? [03:03] *** pkdille has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [03:05] *** mlaporte has joined #tikiwiki [03:06] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [03:06] sm-: can you elaborate? [03:07] on the main site [03:07] on the left hand side.. the section.. "Code Activity" [03:07] with the svn browser [03:07] i am looking for exactly that [03:08] ah [03:08] supplied by CIA.vc [03:08] is it avaliable? [03:08] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1995 -> It's on wishlist [03:08] ;-( [03:09] related: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Software_Project [03:09] i hope the 1995 isnt the year that wish list was made :-) [03:09] hahahaha [03:09] lindon: yes, too much documenting the World [03:10] I think doc.tikiwiki.org needs to be more focused [03:11] and bug reports & RFEs, and info for developers go to dev.tikiwiki.org [03:11] while community aspects and anything that doesn't fit elsewhere goes to tikiwiki.org [03:11] ok what im wondering.. is how you joined after i asked me question and asked me to elaborate? ;-) [03:12] irc.tikiwiki.org logs [03:12] me i mean my and oh.. didnt know that was there [03:13] any kind of an eta on the svn browser? [03:13] sm-: I think Tiki is very close to being excellent platform for Software Project [03:14] well thats why im trying it out.. i read a forum .. somebody posted there experience with tiki with there software project and he was very happy with it [03:15] :-) [03:15] Here is something in the future to complete: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Code+Review [03:15] just .. its my first day with it so im having problems.. ill figure it all out im sure :-) [03:15] hehe [03:15] could you tell me.. what is this "tracker" module? [03:17] ohh i like that [03:18] ok.. how would i set it up so that certain things are in the menu? [03:18] like.. certain wiki articles? [03:19] for example.. "Features" i'd like it to be a wiki article but also be in the menu [03:23] trackers are way to build a database, create forms & reports [03:23] So you can have a bug tracker, issue tracker, etc. [03:33] i found the menu setup yay! [03:33] im going to bed! [03:40] later! [03:41] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [03:44] mlaporte: i blew up the demo again :( [03:45] clicked all 4 SEFURL options on the admin page [03:45] and then tried to go to articles home on the main menu [03:46] got all the characters again [03:49] hehe [03:50] fyi, I started: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Content+Creation+and+Management+Tools&diff_style=htmldiff&compare=Compare&newver=0&oldver=14&tra_lang=ar [03:50] trying to reduce the number of wanted links [03:52] ok, i'll start working on that too [04:06] clicking on a letter at the top of listpages page on the doc site [04:07] only brings up pages starting with that letter in lower case only [04:08] ah [04:08] not good [04:17] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [04:28] off to bed - good night! [04:28] *** lindon has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") [04:28] later! [04:36] *** AkaZn has quit IRC ("-=SysReset 2.55=-") [04:40] *** shawn-ffbh has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") [06:08] *** rlopez_ has joined #tikiwiki [06:37] *** Beestje has joined #tikiwiki [06:39] *** tomb has left "Ex-Chat" [06:45] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [06:52] *** tanjir has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [07:13] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:15] *** nevali has joined #tikiwiki [07:19] *** mlaporte has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [07:23] *** nevali has quit IRC ("Leaving") [07:44] polom [07:47] polom [07:49] hi marc :) [07:50] how are you? [07:56] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18097 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (darkroom.css feb12.css strasa.css thenews.css): [FIX] Removed excess white space caused by switching article title from div to h2. [08:25] marclaporte: great, and ya ? :) [08:25] pretty good [08:26] lots of great progress on doc.tikiwiki.org [08:26] thanks to Lindon [08:26] * luciash starting open.ground business ;) [08:26] yup, noticed, kewl :) [08:31] seems lots of ppl to come to tikifest london [08:31] it's mini-tikifest nomore [08:31] in number of participants ;) [08:33] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [08:33] wb gary :) [08:34] thanks luciash [08:35] I have a plan, I would like your opinion. [08:35] sure [08:35] I was wondering what to do with tikinewt -- keep or move or kil.... [08:35] But thought how about using it as test theme for importing layout.css? [08:36] low-risk way to introduce layout.css in branch 3, I think. [08:36] The other themes wouldn't be touched. [08:37] This way layout.css will be in the release, and I can have the (newer) mods.tw.o themes use it. [08:37] And I think it'll make things easier for other people with custom themes. [08:38] i personally don't mind afa it doesn't break anything [08:38] yay for tikifest london! [08:38] I have a modified tikinewt.css which has its layout-type css removed. [08:38] It's my turn to watch from home ;-) [08:38] marclaporte: heheh [08:38] It can replace the current branch 3 tikinewt. Plus I'll add styles/layout/layout.css. [08:38] I guess that's the best path for it. [08:39] * caralluna is having second thoughts ... [08:39] Actually I have modified the other branch 3 theme stylesheets too, but don't want to risk introducing problems, so will wait to change them. [08:40] Yeah, marclaporte, I hope they'll put on a good show for us. [08:41] first i thought it will be better to remove tikinewt from 3.0 to reduce work we need to keep fixing the themes included still... [08:41] * marclaporte thinks chibaguy was the best cameraman in the history of TikiFests [08:41] Heh, thanks. It was fun. [08:41] * marclaporte thinks tikinewt doesn't look so good. [08:42] But tikinewt with theme options and different colors, could be ok [08:42] No, I don't think so either. But it can serve as a test for layout.css use. [08:42] but we have little time [08:43] on the other hand can you do it in trunk and include layout.css only to 3.0 ? [08:44] to have it ready there for your 3.0 mods themes ? [08:44] That's true. [08:44] with a note it's there for mods themes maybe [08:44] (when people wonder it's not used by any file) [08:45] Doing the branch 3 stylesheet 'conversions' for layout.css gave me some clues about what should be in layout.css and what left in the theme css... [08:46] Actually layout.css also contains some default colors for things like wiki diff classes; nobody touches them much. [08:46] yeah, it's good idea to separate padding, margins and basic layout CSS stuff from look and feel stuff (font sizes, families, colors, graphics) [08:47] padding and margins are tricky, cause they can be for both/either layout/design, etc. [08:47] But this can be fine-tuned after it's in svn... [08:47] yep, for these content usability neccesity colorings it's ok i think, because they can be overriden in theme css later then [08:48] right [08:49] My idea is that transitions/ files will be unneeded because that info can go directly in layout.css. [08:49] Also the (to me) confusing admin option of which transition file to use, etc. can be removed. [08:52] marclaporte, I agree tikinewt with theme options, etc. could be ok. I moved the ones jonnyb made for tikineat to tikinewt's directory in my local install, and they work nicely. [08:54] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [09:00] chibaguy: well, sometimes ppl want to opt-out the use of transition css because it breaks or affects their custom theme in some way they don't like... that's why the transition css is optional [09:02] chibaguy: Transition files has always confused me too, still does [09:02] so i wouldn't kill that preference completely in favor of having it all in layout.css by default where only overriding it would be option to fix [09:04] but maybe better way how to do it can be implemented [09:04] maybe if layout.css would be optional would be sufficient [09:06] well, since layout.css is imported by theme stylesheets, these people would have the choice not to put the import line in their css file. [09:06] what about having transition css classes and ids listed on tiki-edit_css.php somewhat with a question to add them to user edited custom css ? [09:07] ah, right, i thought layout.css will be included in template on top [09:07] but if you do it using @import then fine, it will not affect older themes [09:08] that's true [09:10] about opting out of transitions stylesheets, that seems rather strange to me because a lot of 'necessary' classes, etc. get put in there... [09:11] but still i believe the original purpose of transitions css was to serve ppl who upgrade the new *non-layout* specific classes easily without forcing them to manually edit css files [09:11] so the transition between versions will be easier for them [09:13] that makes sense but then there is quite a risk of missing some classes if the person chooses not to use transitions/. [09:13] imho it wasn't very well done though... the transition css should be optional by theme actually [09:14] yes, by default they're on, user can opt-out to not use the transition css if he/she prefers [09:14] (in case some oddities appear after upgrade) [09:15] My feeling is that devs add things to transitions that they think are necessary, that they expect sites to use. [09:15] *** mycomputer has joined #tikiwiki [09:16] still it serves as a nice list of what classes and ids appeared between versions, though it doesn't list classes which were removed/replaced [09:17] yes, it is good for that, but some things get added to theme stylesheets, so it's just a partial list. [09:18] actually, in an ideal world, they should go to transition css file too if they're important and not only one theme specific [09:19] Hm, I thought they should go to all theme stylesheets if they're important. [09:19] If they're important, why would they be optional? [09:20] well, let me give you an example [09:23] user creates custom theme where some part is really customized a lot (e.g. logo at fixed position on right bottom scrolling with page scrolling) [09:25] then (imagine) in next Tiki version there's specified the logo should be always left in some circumstances (ad banner, etc.) and someone puts it in transition or your layout css [09:27] accidentally the user uses same id or class for it but with lower priority weight (e.g. uses only #logo instead of #siteheader #logo which is in the new tiki version layout css) and sudenly his theme is borked in some way [09:27] so the user could prefer not to use the transition/layout [09:28] i know it's not the best example, but it's the spirit of preserve environment and make it optional... [09:28] maybe i'm just thinking too much around the corner ;) [09:29] Sure, every new release brings that kind of problem, with css or tpls or whatever, especially for highly customized themes. But turning off transitions will solve one... [09:29] problem but then all the other css in transitions isn't used either, so not really a good solution imho. [09:30] I think the person who can make a highly customized theme can adjust to new releases by editing css, etc. [09:30] and doesn't need an admin gui. [09:30] ... with large on/off switch. [09:32] Actually I did most themes/adaptations assuming transitions was not used. Then had problems when some transitions styling conflicted with my theme stylesheet. [09:33] ....because there was 'design' stuff in transitions (border specified, etc.) [09:33] Hopefully that's a rare case. [09:34] Same problem with 'design' inline css, for example when I was doing Darkroom there were lots of cases of bad contrast because inline css assumed a light-colored background. [09:35] But that's improving, too. [09:38] that's the point of having option to switch them off but well, if it will be done better with layout.css +1 for simplify it and having no need to use transitions css [09:40] it's good to get your views. [09:40] I tend to get one idea in my head and forget about other perspectives. ;-) [09:42] np, it's normal, everybody does :) [09:54] *** navster has quit IRC () [10:17] 'night! [10:18] all: help needed! http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process#Blockers [10:31] help needed to fix them you mean? [10:31] Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . [10:32] lol, Tikiwikibot is eager to h e l p :-P [10:33] tell tikiwikibot to change the topic :) [10:35] I can't ... I just know what a bot is ... I know nothing about how you can tell it to do anything :-P [10:36] Also a lot of things further down the page (quasi-blockers, etc.) really should be fixed before the release. A lot of regressions from Tiki 2 there. [10:36] but yeah, it's a bit outdated now [10:36] IMHO actually more important than having new features working 100%. [10:37] chibaguy: hope I could help, unfortunately I don't know any php [10:37] I know the feeling. ;-) [10:37] ;-) [10:38] úhelp voice [10:38] oops :-) [10:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o luciash [10:43] *** luciash changes topic to: Welcome to #tikiwiki! - Just ask, don't ask to ask !!! - Don't paste code/errors here, use http://pastebin.com - IRC-logging at http://irc.tikiwiki.org - Say "!help" to get info from TikiBot - Running Tiki 2.4 is very highly recommended and check out 3.0beta4 - Thanks and have fun! [10:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o luciash [10:48] luciash: good one :-) [10:53] * spoonypjk cheers luciash [10:55] *** Caarrie|sleeping has quit IRC ("brb") [10:59] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [11:18] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18098 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] typo in a french translation [11:25] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18099 10/branches/3.0/ (get_strings.php lib/setup/prefs.php): [11:25] tikiwiki: [MOD] get_strings: to add it to the release script, allow running [11:25] tikiwiki: get_strings.php on a checkout, without a tiki installation (no database). In [11:25] tikiwiki: this case, it uses default prefs from lib/setup/prefs.php which has also been [11:25] tikiwiki: changed to be called without tikilib if needed. [11:27] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18100 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php: [ENH] release: automatically update language.php files when running release.php [11:29] *** navster-mobile has joined #tikiwiki [11:30] *** navster-mobile has quit IRC (Client Quit) [11:31] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18101 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php: [FIX] release script: fix commit message of the update of language.php files [11:43] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18102 10/branches/3.0/lang/ (35 files in 35 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 3.0beta4 [11:43] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18103 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta4 [12:16] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18104 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] installer: missing tr for a string [12:42] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [12:43] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [12:47] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [13:08] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18105 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: french translations for last updates of the installer [13:14] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18106 10/branches/3.0/ (changelog.txt copyright.txt): [REL] Preparing 3.0beta4 release [13:19] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18107 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [REL] Update language.php files for 3.0beta4 [13:19] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18108 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta4 [13:35] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18109 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php: [FIX] release script: remove temporary files and backup files of get_strings.php to avoid them in the secdb step [13:35] *** navster has quit IRC () [13:36] *** nevali has joined #tikiwiki [13:36] *** navster-mobile has joined #tikiwiki [13:36] *** navster-mobile has quit IRC (Client Quit) [13:40] tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18110 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta4 [13:51] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [13:54] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:22] *** nevali has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:23] *** nevali has joined #tikiwiki [14:24] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [14:25] i need an svn browser! [14:25] ;-) [14:27] I am available to browse svn for an immodest fee. :-) [14:27] lol [14:28] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:28] .. [14:28] not exactly what im lookin for [14:28] i mean like the module on the main site there.. the one titled "code activity" [14:29] sm-: does this http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/3.0/ help? [14:31] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [14:44] *** RobertS has joined #tikiwiki [14:44] ahoi [14:44] *** RobertS is now known as Guest43730 [14:45] Ahoi [14:45] ah:) hi caralluna [14:45] hiya :-) [14:45] dunno why i get Guest-status after typed immediatly [14:46] yeah, I noticed that yesterday too [14:47] may i bother u with a new question :)?- you helped me yesterday pretty good [14:48] If you are incredibly lucky it's something I know something about ;-) Fire away ;-) [14:49] its about images - they are to get into wiki-sites pretty complicated cause i have to type in the whole adress that i can see in the galary [14:49] it would be alot of easier to hav a choice to get images into my "posts" directly from my PC to the post [14:50] you got my problem? [14:50] well, there is a thing I don't know much about [14:50] but yeah, I know what you mean [14:51] well np at all it works - i was looking for easier ways :P [14:51] I don't know of any, sorry [14:52] have you installed your 3.0 already and does it work? [14:52] yeah and yeah :-) [14:53] www.hansrune.com is my main "production" site, works very well :-) [14:53] great - do you know if i can stay with my personal changes and ma data when i want to update on a stable version3.0 later? [14:53] ah i'll have a look - mine is: www.sonnenmeister.eu [14:54] I don't have much experience about that, but the few times I tried it was between 3.0 betas - and that worked flawlessly [14:55] ok - i just had a short look on your page - very nice - themes for vistors - pretty handsome [14:56] thanks :-) [14:56] it's not a very difficult thing to enable [14:57] what is the aim of yours if there is one - do u think to built up something real? [14:57] sylvieg not that i can see.. [14:57] im talking about a module for tikiwiki that acts as an svn browser [14:58] gimme a min cara ill try a relog [14:58] *** Guest43730 has left [14:58] *** RobertS has joined #tikiwiki [14:59] re [14:59] re [14:59] trying to not get guest status :P [14:59] RobertS, just my personal homepage ... I'm into computers, gadgets, photos and cars ... so I guess that will be what it'll be about [14:59] *** RobertS is now known as Guest61398 [14:59] hmmm weird ... [14:59] lol and guest again - what can this be - cookies or soemthing like this? [15:00] ic [15:00] no idea, sorry [15:00] *** Amorphous has left "part" [15:01] u said your site is on a providers VPS - so u got no speed problems i guess [15:01] could u test out my site - to see if its slow for you ? [15:02] well not that one ... that is @ my house on an ADSL [15:02] :)) ok [15:03] ic - i just opened a lot of things under the hood - it was very slow - but worked [15:03] www.rettvest.org is my test site, that is on a VPS ... try tw.rettvest.org, tw2.rettvest.org, tw3.rettvest.org, tw4.rettvest.org [15:05] but the only access I have to that site from a clients perspective is through ssh - so it's not the best way to test speed [15:05] guess I could set up some kind of remote desktop-thing or a proxy, but I don't have the knowledge [15:06] i was on tw4 - this was faster maybe a little - id say - its hard to say [15:07] tw4 is running 4.0 of TW, so that's very early code [15:07] been having a lot of trouble inserting stuff into that database [15:07] do u know where i can rename the database for my wiki - so i could take a backup first - make a new database - and restore my data on this new one? [15:10] to give my tiki the database's name was only at the install-proccess at beginning a possibility - where i can change my database-name in my tiki-wiki - any idea? [15:10] *** ChadDa3mon has joined #tikiwiki [15:10] hmm ... you'd have to rename it in TW through the installer I guess - and then the real database as well [15:10] how to run the installer when its already runnning? [15:11] put tiki-installer.php on the end of the adress ... or was it tiki-install.php [15:12] then you'll have to remove a lock file, it will tell you which [15:12] ah i got it - thx [15:12] :-) [15:13] caralluna: a new feature to automatically update Tikis from source was added to TRIM [15:13] marclaporte: for several tikis you mean? [15:13] brb [15:14] caralluna: : yes, several, and they update on a cron job [15:15] marclaporte: Thanks, but I prefer to do that manually ... I don't have *that* many ;-) [15:16] ... I think anyways ;-) ...but I'll check it out :-) [15:16] *** nevali has quit IRC ("Leaving") [15:19] :-) [15:20] I read about TRIM a while back ... concluded I didn't wanna use it ... but things are changing :-) [15:21] it's getting better all the time [15:22] yeah, one of the things I love about it :-P [15:26] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [15:26] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) [15:26] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [15:31] What you need next to your TW workstation: Tiki head tissue box cover. http://www.amazon.com/Tiki-Head-Tissue-Box-Cover/dp/B0007U8MSA [15:32] Yeah, so it's a Moai, not a Tiki. One shouldn't do that to a Tiki anyway. [15:35] *** chibaguy has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [15:35] *** chibaguy_ has joined #tikiwiki [15:36] "Frequently Bought Together -- Customers buy this item with Odd Jobs: Portraits of Unusual Occupations" [15:37] "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought ... [15:37] ...Grow Dammit Garden Stone... [15:38] ..." oh, I won't list the rest. Too sad. [15:39] * SEWilco2 offers a tissue [15:42] * chibaguy_ hesitantly accepts.... [15:43] * SEWilco2 stocks up with green tissues [15:44] * chibaguy_ is relieved at least they aren't wet wipes.... [15:47] This feels like a stupid question, but where in the world can I enable plugins in 3.X? [15:48] *** caralluna has quit IRC ("TikiWiki FTW! ;-)") [15:48] guess it was a stupid question :/ [15:48] *** caralluna has joined #tikiwiki [15:49] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [15:50] ChadDa3mon, tiki-admin.php?page=textarea [15:52] *** rpg has joined #tikiwiki [15:52] Not a stupid question; seems like I generally find what I'm looking for at Admin Textarea. [15:53] ....how did I miss this :( [15:53] (ok, in the general area of wiki-related prefs, etc.) [15:53] Text Area was the winner [15:53] yesss [15:53] I could swear I went through every tab of every option [15:54] * chibaguy_ just successfully ftp'ed up and installed tw 3.0beta4.... [15:55] did that just come out in the last hour? I tried the "check for updates" thing earlier and it said I was up to date [15:56] yes, Beta4 is fresh [15:56] There was a message on the dev mailing list that tarballs are ready for testing. [16:00] Shoutbox is still broken. [16:01] ( http://mods.tikiwiki.org/tikiwiki-3.0.prebeta4.tar.bz2 ) [16:02] *** snarlydwarf has joined #tikiwiki [16:03] (well, I guess the release of a beta raises my expectations, but of course the list of bugs still to be squashed hasn't magically disappeared.) [16:03] *** Guest61398 has quit IRC ("Tiki PJIRC Integrator") [16:04] My site has been saying it was running beta4 for some time now ...? [16:04] and I am running 3.0 svn [16:05] Is there a release notes somewhere on 4? [16:08] There's changelot.txt in the package. Is that what you mean? [16:08] er, changelog.txt [16:09] changelot is the description, not the name, I guess. ;-) [16:09] changelot should be the correct name ;-) [16:09] :-) [16:09] heh [16:09] yea, I'm downloading it now, I'll look at the file [16:09] was trying to find something online [16:10] http://zukakakina.com/tw3prebeta4/changelog.txt if you want to read now. [16:10] excellent, thanks [16:18] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [16:38] g'night all [16:38] *** chibaguy_ has left [16:39] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] woo hoo. rick is back :) [16:42] * marclaporte yay! [16:42]