[00:00] <marclaporte> I think tiki-admin.php?page=community would be a good home
[00:01] <sm-lapt0p> i think im going to delete tiki
[00:01] <sm-lapt0p> too much going on.. too complicated
[00:02] <sm-lapt0p> its taking too much time and i already have little of that
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[00:15] <ricks99> y admin:community sounds right to me
[00:15] <ricks99> rename to admin: user defaults?
[00:15] <marclaporte> sure
[00:16] <marclaporte> and maybe a link from admin users
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[00:16] <ricks99> methinks the "crosslinks" section should be redsigned (need better ui)
[00:18] <marclaporte> oh yes!
[00:29] <ricks99> marc: q.... 4 some of the "user" defaults, aren't they already covered?
[00:29] <ricks99> for example, why is/would "user default lang" be different than site language (already defined on i18n page)?
[00:30] <ricks99> theme, timezone, too?
[00:31] <ricks99> mail charset (differs from admin: general, gen prefs tab)?
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[00:41] <marclaporte> I am not sure
[01:06] <marclaporte> Caarrie: can you teach the bot to announce new items on Wishlist?
[01:07] <Caarrie> an rss feed?
[01:07] <marclaporte> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/RSS_Examples
[01:07] <marclaporte> all three ^^
[01:07] <Caarrie> i have those 3 already
[01:08] <marclaporte> I added bug and bot is mute
[01:08] <Caarrie> takes up to 10 minutes to report it
[01:10] <Caarrie> !bugs
[01:10] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2452 - add to structure: if page exists, update instead of refusal - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2452
[01:10] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2453 - tiki-print_pages.php should allow to choose tikiversion for all pages, if ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2453
[01:10] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2454 - Users think they can inlcude attachments to trackers, even without permission - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2454
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[01:12] <marclaporte> order is wrong
[01:13] <marclaporte> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2459
[01:13] <marclaporte> Caarrie: : not your fault.   thanks
[01:14] <Caarrie> i might be able to fix that
[01:14] <Caarrie> !bugs
[01:14] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2454 - Users think they can inlcude attachments to trackers, even without permission - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2454
[01:14] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2453 - tiki-print_pages.php should allow to choose tikiversion for all pages, if ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2453
[01:14] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2452 - add to structure: if page exists, update instead of refusal - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2452
[01:14] <Caarrie> better?
[01:15] <Caarrie> marclaporte: ?
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[01:46] <voraistos> the beta4 is broken
[01:46] <voraistos> clean install on clean database outputs gibbersih
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[01:47] <voraistos> that kind of gibberish: %0A%3C%21DOCTYPE+html+%0A%09PUBLIC+%22-%2F%2FW3C%2F%2FDTD
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[01:57] <marclaporte> did you turn on any experimental features?
[01:57] <marclaporte> what profile did you use?
[01:58] <voraistos> hmm the last profile in the list
[01:58] <voraistos> community portl i think it was called
[01:59] <voraistos> I also tried to update  a beta3 install, and it broke in a smilar fashion
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[07:52] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18224 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] list_quiz: fix the item count in this function (cant did not check the perms). Replace user_has_perm_on_object with new function get_perm_object.
[08:47] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18225 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: French translation
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[09:18] <xavi> ricks99 : pong
[09:19] <xavi> in case you come to irc to "ping" when I'm not here.
[09:20] <xavi> Yesterday I wanted to ask you if the "dynamic items list" was working for you on current tiki3svn code
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[09:21] <xavi> I saw that you, ricks99, updated the docs with screenshots and so on and a very detailed example  (thanks! :-) ) , but it didn't work for me on tiki3svn beta1 code
[09:21] <xavi> And when I upgraded to current tiki3svn code, I broke the site completely
[09:21] <xavi> morning luci
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18226 10/branches/3.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: [FIX] admin panels: fix default values for many preferences in order to avoid
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: tiki displaying to the admin that some prefs changed when saving, even if they
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: didn't really changed. Also better handle how copyright prefs are saved and
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: allow changing copyright prefs even while the feature is turned off (as other
[09:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: features).
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[09:35] <xavi> anybody remember how to downgrade to a specific revision number in svn?
[09:36] * xavi is looking for it in a 400 pages book, and it's taking some time (maybe somebody knows the quick syntax, if any) 
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[09:39] <luci> hello
[09:39] <xavi>  hi luci
[09:40] <luci> hi xavi
[09:40] <xavi> luci: " anybody remember how to downgrade to a specific revision number in svn?"
[09:40] <xavi> I'm attempting to recover a site which broke yesterday evening after I upgraded to latest svn code :-(
[09:41] <xavi> there must be some syntax "svn stick-to-this-rnnnnn"
[09:41] <xavi> so that you can do some sort of "downgrade" some revisions, I guess
[10:03] <xavi> oh well!, half succeeded! :-)
[10:05] <xavi> I tried with revision -r18152, and I started seing the site again
[10:07] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18227 10/branches/3.0/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] installer: do not set site_language pref, since it's not a real db pref (the only good pref for db is language)
[10:11] <xavi> luci , there something weird in recent code related to the content to be displayed on the right column in a thenews-based theme style
[10:11] <xavi> see this http://intercanvis.net nowadays
[10:11] <xavi> the central column is shown in the right colum also!
[10:12] <xavi> (but at least the site is back up again)
[10:13] <xavi> i'm trying with previous revisions, moving back in time (following suggestions from http://svnbook.red-bean.com
[10:14] <xavi> and still no luck (right now using -r18045)
[10:14] <xavi> I'll try with older ones, a bit more, just in case
[10:14] <xavi> (with tiki3beta1 everything was working fine for that site)
[10:17] <xavi> ei!, everything seems back working fine with my last trial: -r17045
[10:17] * xavi is happy again
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[10:49] <xavi> about the dynamic items list regression bug in tiki3, if anyone interested: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2462
[10:49] <xavi> ^ ricks99 
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[11:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18228 10/trunk/ (43 files in 19 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 18191 to 18227
[11:51] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18229 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Restore Strasa graphic files to strasa "root" (was using Strasa/Cold option files)
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[12:24] <luci> amette: hi bro, are you online ?
[12:26] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18230 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/ (cold/headerbg.jpg cold.css): [FIX] Minor cosmetic changes (for *.tw.o sites)
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[12:48] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18231 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold/headerbg.jpg: [FIX] Minor cosmetic "fix"
[12:50] <luci> amette: please, when you wake up, svn up dev.tw.o and doc.tw.o :) thank you
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[14:51] <luci> re
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[14:56] <caralluna> Hi :-)
[14:57] <caralluna> I seem to remember somebody having trouble with uploads to filegalleries that never finish ... is that a confirmed bug or is there a workaround?
[15:07] <luci> caralluna: no idea, search the bugs on dev.tw.o
[15:09] <caralluna> I did yesterday, I can see no mention of it
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[16:04] <HJWilson> morning
[16:04] <caralluna> evening ;-)
[16:05] <HJWilson> In Seattle and having my morning Coffee
[16:06] * caralluna is in Norway ;-)
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[16:07] <HJWilson> Just found this the other day. was looking for a CMS for a site I am thinking about doing amnd am very impressed with it
[16:07] <HJWilson> and
[16:09] <HJWilson> that was a whoops
[16:09] <HJWilson> fingers not awake yet
[16:11] <HJWilson> so what is happing in Norway
[16:11] <HJWilson> happening
[16:12] <caralluna> enjoying a quiet evening with my cat :-)
[16:13] <HJWilson> Is it warming up there any yet
[16:13] <HJWilson> summer is having a hard time getting started here
[16:13] <caralluna> Weekend was quite good ... I am in the south Western part though
[16:15] <HJWilson> I think it has to do with the budget cuts,, they can't afford the sun any more
[16:15] <caralluna> lol yeah
[16:15] <caralluna> Less sun is a good thing as far as I am concerned, I like winter a whole lot more
[16:16] <HJWilson> A little winter is aright but to much makes these ole bones ache
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[16:18] <HJWilson> Well you take care,, just want to see how ever thing worked here, and need more coffee sleep tight
[16:18] <caralluna> :-)
[16:18] <caralluna> U 2 :-)
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[16:53] <SEWilco2> caralluna: I'd expect uploads which do not complete to happen when exceeding upload disk or time limit.  So it probably happens, don't know when error messages should happen.
[16:56] <caralluna> disk space is not an issue, though time limit could ... another thing I noted was that max filesize was ... I think it was 38MB ... I would never set that limit. A strange number as well, so there is probably some limit still set at default., I always set  limits as 32/64/128/256 and so on :-)
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[16:59] <SEWilco2> caralluna: I wonder don't know how much control there is over the upload process.  I suspect the HTTP server is in control until the transfer is complete.
[17:01] <caralluna> I should have full control, the site in question is a machine @ my home :-)
[17:02] <caralluna> which is running both the webserver and tiki server
[17:02] <SEWilco2> caralluna: Well, the max size and time are the only limits which come to mind, and you can test how those behave.
[17:03] <caralluna> ok, I'll check ... thanks!
[17:03] <SEWilco2> Peculiar file names might be a factor. 
[17:03] <SEWilco2> I don't know what processing is done after TW gets control.
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[17:04] <caralluna> don't remember exactly what the filename was, but I'll check that too :-)
[17:04] <caralluna> any definition of "peculiar" though :-)
[17:04] <caralluna> ?
[17:05] <SEWilco2> Slashes might be bad.  Spaces could cause problems too, if something space-sensitive tries to handle it.
[17:06] <caralluna> _ should be OK+
[17:06] <caralluna> ?
[17:08] <SEWilco2> I'd have to reread the code to look for more, and I'm busy causing confusion elsewhere.
[17:08] <caralluna> never mind, I'l check it out
[17:08] <caralluna> thanks :-)
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[17:45] <ricks99> ping xavi
[17:46] <ricks99> @xavi: i haven't looked @ dyanmic lists with 3.0 yet.... will take a look when i get a chance
[17:48] <xavi> pong ricks99 :-)
[17:48] <xavi> ok, anyway, sylvieg recently told me that it's working for her on current tiki3 code
[17:49] <xavi> so it might be that I didn't set it properly
[17:49] <xavi> anyway, thanks for your nice documentation on how to use it! :-)
[17:53] <ricks99> tx. :)
[17:53] <ricks99> u @ tikiffest?
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[18:00] <mib_tshaej> Salut, suis-je mieux d'attendre la version 3.0 ou la 2.4 est correct en soi. 
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[18:03] <xavi> ricks99: no, at home
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[18:04] <ricks99> ah...
[18:04] <ricks99> @mib_tshaegj: Je ne parle pas français.  English?
[18:06] <Pascallapalme> want to try tikiwiki. better to try 2.4 or wait vers. 3.0 coming soon 6
[18:06] <Pascallapalme> ?
[18:08] <ricks99> 3.0 beta 4 is pretty good, plus lots of new features
[18:08] <ricks99> i would use 3.0beta4
[18:08] <ricks99> just my $0.02
[18:09] <Pascallapalme> where can I see new features ?
[18:10] <ricks99> pls see docs:
[18:10] <ricks99> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tikiwiki+3.0
[18:11] <Pascallapalme> cool thanks !
[18:11] <ricks99> also: http://twbasics.keycontent.org
[18:12] <ricks99> tu es le bienvenu
[18:17] <xavi> brrrrr, I tried again to upgrade to latest svn code, and I get weirdnesses!: central column shown in the right column several times!
[18:18] <xavi> see http://intercanvis.net/tiki-login_scr.php
[18:19] <ricks99> clear cache?
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[18:20] <xavi> I'll try again (I did yesterday the whole process, clearing all tiki caches, and no change, yesterday)
[18:20] <xavi> I'll see now
[18:20] <xavi> hi sylvieg
[18:21] <xavi> in the meantime, ricks99, have you seen the cool slideshow added in tiki3 (I guess, due to jonnyb, nyloth, ...) using jquery! : http://intercanvis.net
[18:21] <xavi> ?
[18:22] <xavi> it's awesome! :-)
[18:22] <ricks99> maybe a theme issue? is that a customtheme ur using?
[18:23] <sylvieg> hi
[18:23] <ricks99> nice slideshow 
[18:23] <ricks99> cool
[18:23] <xavi> well, just thenews.css with some changes (importing thenews.css from another one, and making some changes)
[18:23] <sylvieg> xavi - if you can explain more your problem with dynamic list - I can help - but for now working fine on my local - 
[18:24] <xavi> ok, yes, I will, in a sec.
[18:24] * xavi clearing caches and loading again
[18:28] <xavi> ricks99, right now using standard thenews.css and same effect
[18:28] <ricks99> *rick likes the color scheme
[18:29] <xavi> ricks99: which one? thenews? of the pinkyish one I was using?
[18:29] <ricks99> urs
[18:29] <xavi> thx
[18:30] <ricks99> it adds just enough color.... i like TheNews but it is a bit "bland"
[18:30] <xavi> I don't like it that much, but it's how far I could go months ago with the little time to add some colour...
[18:31] <xavi> sylvieg: you can reproduce in http://intercanvis.net , you have a user "sylvie" with admin rights already
[18:31] <xavi> maybe it was jusst me making some trouble with the settings, but I did double check yesterday to make the tracker as similar as the example from ricks99
[18:32] <xavi> btw, sylvieg, you'll see also the weirdness with the display with current svn code (central column displayed several times in right column...
[18:32] <xavi> I wish chibaguy or luciash could have a look to that....
[18:33] <xavi> I'm currently using again the latest svn code on that site (at least nowadays the site is working, even if with that buggish display)
[18:34] <xavi> sylvieg: whenever you can, login and come here: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=2&show=mod
[18:35] <xavi> that's the tracker with the dynamic list field added to it. 
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[18:55] <xavi> and sylvieg, this is the filed (one  of them) with the empty "dynamic items list": http://intercanvis.net/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php?trackerId=2&sort_mode=position_asc&fieldId=87
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[19:08] <xavi> walk the dog time
[19:24] <xavi> back
[19:25] <xavi> well, since the jquery slideshow is not that nice in current svn code, and the right column problem is there mouining, I?ll revert back to a previous revision
[19:27] <xavi> And one that worked fine on that site is r17745
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[19:46] <xavi> oh well, disconnecting for today. Sylvieg, if you check that site, keep in mind that I had to revert the site to -17745, so that lateral column is shown right, and the slideshow is really nice (with latest svn became kind-of-ugly slideshow)
[19:46] <xavi> cheers
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[20:00] <voraistos> Hey!
[20:00] <voraistos> I just redownloaded 3b4 today and it works this time
[20:00] <voraistos> I used the tgz version, you might want to check the tbz
[20:06] <voraistos> filegalleries
[20:06] <voraistos> I just uploaded a picture there, and the slideshow seems to resize it or something
[20:06] <voraistos> but there shouldn't be a need for that
[20:06] <voraistos> the quality loss is enormous
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[21:16] <Idi-Amin-Dada> Hello all nice People!!!
[21:19] <Idi-Amin-Dada> What is causing broken links in Tikiwiki 3-Beta4?
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[22:13] <mib_9ov8yq> Hi All! I'm here hoping someone can help me solve a blank screen error during install on XP home.
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[23:25] <mib_9ov8yq> hello?
[23:25] <voraistos> blank screen means something wrong with your web server probably
[23:26] <mib_9ov8yq> thanks for replying but ... it runs everything else just fine. Everything...
[23:27] <mib_9ov8yq> It's localhost Apache My
[23:27] <mib_9ov8yq> SQL 5.0.51b
[23:28] <mib_9ov8yq> Apache 2.2 PHP 5.2.6
[23:31] <mib_9ov8yq> I've searched and ready and tried everything I could ... sys requirements and etc.... I reached out because I'm at a total loss as to what the problem may be. Thanks Again.
[23:46] <voraistos> you should check for any bugs related to your version of apache/mysql/php
[23:46] <voraistos> also you should use linux/bsd
[23:49] <mib_9ov8yq> thanks for responding. I'll look for bug info. An OS change would be a HUGE ordeal though. Is there anything else you know of that I could try or places that I could seek help?
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