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   sm-lapt0p: i think im going to delete tiki
   <br> too much going on.. too complicated
   <br> its taking too much time and i already have little of that
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   ricks99: y admin:community sounds right to me
   <br> rename to admin: user defaults?
   marclaporte: sure
   <br> and maybe a link from admin users
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   ricks99: methinks the "crosslinks" section should be redsigned (need better ui)
   marclaporte: oh yes!
   ricks99: <u>marc</u>: q.... 4 some of the "user" defaults, aren't they already covered?
   <br> for example, why is/would "user default lang" be different than site language (already defined on i18n page)?
   <br> theme, timezone, too?
   <br> mail charset (differs from admin: general, gen prefs tab)?
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   marclaporte: I am not sure
   <br> <u>Caarrie</u>: can you teach the bot to announce new items on Wishlist?
   Caarrie: an rss feed?
   marclaporte: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/RSS_Examples
   <br> all three ^^
   Caarrie: i have those 3 already
   marclaporte: I added bug and bot is mute
   Caarrie: takes up to 10 minutes to report it
   <br> !bugs
   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2452 - add to structure: if page exists, update instead of refusal - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2452
   <br> Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2453 - tiki-print_pages.php should allow to choose tikiversion for all pages, if ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2453
   <br> Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2454 - Users think they can inlcude attachments to trackers, even without permission - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2454
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   marclaporte: order is wrong
   <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2459
   <br> <u>Caarrie</u>: : not your fault.   thanks
   Caarrie: i might be able to fix that
   <br> !bugs
   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2454 - Users think they can inlcude attachments to trackers, even without permission - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2454
   <br> Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2453 - tiki-print_pages.php should allow to choose tikiversion for all pages, if ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2453
   <br> Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2452 - add to structure: if page exists, update instead of refusal - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2452
   Caarrie: better?
   <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: ?
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   voraistos: the beta4 is broken
   <br> clean install on clean database outputs gibbersih
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   voraistos: that kind of gibberish: %0A%3C%21DOCTYPE+html+%0A%09PUBLIC+%22-%2F%2FW3C%2F%2FDTD
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   marclaporte: did you turn on any experimental features?
   <br> what profile did you use?
   voraistos: hmm the last profile in the list
   <br> community portl i think it was called
   <br> I also tried to update  a beta3 install, and it broke in a smilar fashion
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   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18224 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] list_quiz: fix the item count in this function (cant did not check the perms). Replace user_has_perm_on_object with new function get_perm_object.
   <br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18225 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: French translation
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   xavi: ricks99 : pong
   <br> in case you come to irc to "ping" when I'm not here.
   <br> Yesterday I wanted to ask you if the "dynamic items list" was working for you on current tiki3svn code
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   xavi: I saw that you, ricks99, updated the docs with screenshots and so on and a very detailed example  (thanks! :-) ) , but it didn't work for me on tiki3svn beta1 code
   <br> And when I upgraded to current tiki3svn code, I broke the site completely
   <br> morning luci
   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18226 10/branches/3.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] admin panels: fix default values for many preferences in order to avoid
   <br> tikiwiki: tiki displaying to the admin that some prefs changed when saving, even if they
   <br> tikiwiki: didn't really changed. Also better handle how copyright prefs are saved and
   <br> tikiwiki: allow changing copyright prefs even while the feature is turned off (as other
   <br> tikiwiki: features).
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   xavi: anybody remember how to downgrade to a specific revision number in svn?
   -: xavi is looking for it in a 400 pages book, and it's taking some time (maybe somebody knows the quick syntax, if any)
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   luci: hello
   xavi: hi luci
   luci: hi xavi
   xavi: <u>luci</u>: " anybody remember how to downgrade to a specific revision number in svn?"
   <br> I'm attempting to recover a site which broke yesterday evening after I upgraded to latest svn code :-(
   <br> there must be some syntax "svn stick-to-this-rnnnnn"
   <br> so that you can do some sort of "downgrade" some revisions, I guess
   <br> oh well!, half succeeded! :-)
   <br> I tried with revision -r18152, and I started seing the site again
   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18227 10/branches/3.0/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] installer: do not set site_language pref, since it's not a real db pref (the only good pref for db is language)
   xavi: luci , there something weird in recent code related to the content to be displayed on the right column in a thenews-based theme style
   <br> see this http://intercanvis.net nowadays
   <br> the central column is shown in the right colum also!
   <br> (but at least the site is back up again)
   <br> i'm trying with previous revisions, moving back in time (following suggestions from http://svnbook.red-bean.com
   <br> and still no luck (right now using -r18045)
   <br> I'll try with older ones, a bit more, just in case
   <br> (with tiki3beta1 everything was working fine for that site)
   <br> ei!, everything seems back working fine with my last trial: -r17045
   -: xavi is happy again
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   xavi: about the dynamic items list regression bug in tiki3, if anyone interested: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2462
   <br> ^ ricks99
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   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18228 10/trunk/ (43 files in 19 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 18191 to 18227
   <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18229 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Restore Strasa graphic files to strasa "root" (was using Strasa/Cold option files)
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   luci: <u>amette</u>: hi bro, are you online ?
   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18230 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/ (cold/headerbg.jpg cold.css): [FIX] Minor cosmetic changes (for *.tw.o sites)
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   CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18231 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold/headerbg.jpg: [FIX] Minor cosmetic "fix"
   luci: <u>amette</u>: please, when you wake up, svn up dev.tw.o and doc.tw.o :) thank you
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   luci: re
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   caralluna: Hi :-)
   <br> I seem to remember somebody having trouble with uploads to filegalleries that never finish ... is that a confirmed bug or is there a workaround?
   luci: <u>caralluna</u>: no idea, search the bugs on dev.tw.o
   caralluna: I did yesterday, I can see no mention of it
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   HJWilson: morning
   caralluna: evening ;-)
   HJWilson: In Seattle and having my morning Coffee
   -: caralluna is in Norway ;-)
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   HJWilson: Just found this the other day. was looking for a CMS for a site I am thinking about doing amnd am very impressed with it
   <br> and
   <br> that was a whoops
   <br> fingers not awake yet
   <br> so what is happing in Norway
   <br> happening
   caralluna: enjoying a quiet evening with my cat :-)
   HJWilson: Is it warming up there any yet
   <br> summer is having a hard time getting started here
   caralluna: Weekend was quite good ... I am in the south Western part though
   HJWilson: I think it has to do with the budget cuts,, they can't afford the sun any more
   caralluna: lol yeah
   <br> Less sun is a good thing as far as I am concerned, I like winter a whole lot more
   HJWilson: A little winter is aright but to much makes these ole bones ache
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   HJWilson: Well you take care,, just want to see how ever thing worked here, and need more coffee sleep tight
   caralluna: :-)
   <br> U 2 :-)
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   SEWilco2: <u>caralluna</u>: I'd expect uploads which do not complete to happen when exceeding upload disk or time limit.  So it probably happens, don't know when error messages should happen.
   caralluna: disk space is not an issue, though time limit could ... another thing I noted was that max filesize was ... I think it was 38MB ... I would never set that limit. A strange number as well, so there is probably some limit still set at default., I always set  limits as 32/64/128/256 and so on :-)
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   SEWilco2: <u>caralluna</u>: I wonder don't know how much control there is over the upload process.  I suspect the HTTP server is in control until the transfer is complete.
   caralluna: I should have full control, the site in question is a machine @ my home :-)
   <br> which is running both the webserver and tiki server
   SEWilco2: <u>caralluna</u>: Well, the max size and time are the only limits which come to mind, and you can test how those behave.
   caralluna: ok, I'll check ... thanks!
   SEWilco2: Peculiar file names might be a factor.
   <br> I don't know what processing is done after TW gets control.
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   caralluna: don't remember exactly what the filename was, but I'll check that too :-)
   <br> any definition of "peculiar" though :-)
   <br> ?
   SEWilco2: Slashes might be bad.  Spaces could cause problems too, if something space-sensitive tries to handle it.
   caralluna: _ should be OK+
   <br> ?
   SEWilco2: I'd have to reread the code to look for more, and I'm busy causing confusion elsewhere.
   caralluna: never mind, I'l check it out
   <br> thanks :-)
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   ricks99: ping xavi
   <br> @xavi: i haven't looked @ dyanmic lists with 3.0 yet.... will take a look when i get a chance
   xavi: pong ricks99 :-)
   <br> ok, anyway, sylvieg recently told me that it's working for her on current tiki3 code
   <br> so it might be that I didn't set it properly
   <br> anyway, thanks for your nice documentation on how to use it! :-)
   ricks99: tx. :)
   <br> u @ tikiffest?
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   mib_tshaej: Salut, suis-je mieux d'attendre la version 3.0 ou la 2.4 est correct en soi.
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   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: no, at home
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   ricks99: ah...
   <br> @mib_tshaegj: Je ne parle pas français.  English?
   Pascallapalme: want to try tikiwiki. better to try 2.4 or wait vers. 3.0 coming soon 6
   <br> ?
   ricks99: 3.0 beta 4 is pretty good, plus lots of new features
   <br> i would use 3.0beta4
   <br> just my $0.02
   Pascallapalme: where can I see new features ?
   ricks99: pls see docs:
   <br> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tikiwiki+3.0
   Pascallapalme: cool thanks !
   ricks99: <u>also</u>: http://twbasics.keycontent.org
   <br> tu es le bienvenu
   xavi: brrrrr, I tried again to upgrade to latest svn code, and I get weirdnesses!: central column shown in the right column several times!
   <br> see http://intercanvis.net/tiki-login_scr.php
   ricks99: clear cache?
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   xavi: I'll try again (I did yesterday the whole process, clearing all tiki caches, and no change, yesterday)
   <br> I'll see now
   <br> hi sylvieg
   <br> in the meantime, ricks99, have you seen the cool slideshow added in tiki3 (I guess, due to jonnyb, nyloth, ...) using jquery! : http://intercanvis.net
   <br> ?
   <br> it's awesome! :-)
   ricks99: maybe a theme issue? is that a customtheme ur using?
   sylvieg: hi
   ricks99: nice slideshow
   <br> cool
   xavi: well, just thenews.css with some changes (importing thenews.css from another one, and making some changes)
   sylvieg: xavi - if you can explain more your problem with dynamic list - I can help - but for now working fine on my local -
   xavi: ok, yes, I will, in a sec.
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   xavi: ricks99, right now using standard thenews.css and same effect
   ricks99: *rick likes the color scheme
   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: which one? thenews? of the pinkyish one I was using?
   ricks99: urs
   xavi: thx
   ricks99: it adds just enough color.... i like TheNews but it is a bit "bland"
   xavi: I don't like it that much, but it's how far I could go months ago with the little time to add some colour...
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: you can reproduce in http://intercanvis.net , you have a user "sylvie" with admin rights already
   <br> maybe it was jusst me making some trouble with the settings, but I did double check yesterday to make the tracker as similar as the example from ricks99
   <br> btw, sylvieg, you'll see also the weirdness with the display with current svn code (central column displayed several times in right column...
   <br> I wish chibaguy or luciash could have a look to that....
   <br> I'm currently using again the latest svn code on that site (at least nowadays the site is working, even if with that buggish display)
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: whenever you can, login and come here: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=2&amp;show=mod
   <br> that's the tracker with the dynamic list field added to it.
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   xavi: and sylvieg, this is the filed (one  of them) with the empty "dynamic items list": http://intercanvis.net/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php?trackerId=2&amp;sort_mode=position_asc&amp;fieldId=87
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   xavi: walk the dog time
   <br> back
   <br> well, since the jquery slideshow is not that nice in current svn code, and the right column problem is there mouining, I?ll revert back to a previous revision
   <br> And one that worked fine on that site is r17745
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   xavi: oh well, disconnecting for today. Sylvieg, if you check that site, keep in mind that I had to revert the site to -17745, so that lateral column is shown right, and the slideshow is really nice (with latest svn became kind-of-ugly slideshow)
   <br> cheers
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   voraistos: Hey!
   <br> I just redownloaded 3b4 today and it works this time
   <br> I used the tgz version, you might want to check the tbz
   <br> filegalleries
   <br> I just uploaded a picture there, and the slideshow seems to resize it or something
   <br> but there shouldn't be a need for that
   <br> the quality loss is enormous
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   Idi-Amin-Dada: Hello all nice People!!!
   <br> What is causing broken links in Tikiwiki 3-Beta4?
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   mib_9ov8yq: Hi All! I'm here hoping someone can help me solve a blank screen error during install on XP home.
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   mib_9ov8yq: hello?
   voraistos: blank screen means something wrong with your web server probably
   mib_9ov8yq: thanks for replying but ... it runs everything else just fine. Everything...
   <br> It's localhost Apache My
   <br> SQL 5.0.51b
   <br> Apache 2.2 PHP 5.2.6
   <br> I've searched and ready and tried everything I could ... sys requirements and etc.... I reached out because I'm at a total loss as to what the problem may be. Thanks Again.
   voraistos: you should check for any bugs related to your version of apache/mysql/php
   <br> also you should use linux/bsd
   mib_9ov8yq: thanks for responding. I'll look for bug info. An OS change would be a HUGE ordeal though. Is there anything else you know of that I could try or places that I could seek help?
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