#tikiwiki 2009-04-28,Tue

LordVan

hi
anyone using tikiwiki 2.2 with psotgresql?

chibaguy

So somehow there's some interference...

LordVan

or any tiki with postgresql

luciash

chibaguy: ah, i didn't try coelesce that much

chibaguy

luciash, I can access your link ok.
LordVan, no, sorry.

[09:19]

luciash

LordVan: i fear we don't have enough developers to test and develop for it

[09:19]

chibaguy

Somebody (user) was going to try to debug tiki with postgresql, but I don't know what the status us.

LordVan

because the db init script is broken

chibaguy

-> status is.

LordVan

ENGINE=MyISAM of coruse won't work ..

luciash

LordVan: of course

LordVan

stuff like that is in most of the db scripts
i removed that but still plenty of errors
so basically everyone is running it on mysql ?

luciash

LordVan: seems so, i tested with SQLite, but failed with 3.0 while i was able to run it on some pre 2.x

[09:21]

LordVan

hmm

[09:21]

luciash

LordVan: i still have one test site running on it :-p

[09:21]

LordVan

there's a lot of php based webapps which r supposedly going to run with dbengine != mysql but don't really
in thee end it is still lamp
;)

chibaguy

I guess there's some new concern about what oracle will do with mysql...

LordVan

shame .. i like postgres

luciash

LordVan: i think it's the side effect of MySQL's major share

LordVan

i was thinkin ghat too when i read that

chibaguy

but I haven't been following the story.

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LordVan

so anyway if i want my site to get up& running quickly without debugging,.. i need mysql ..

luciash

LordVan: i like it too but unfortunatelly lack of time to fix tiki for it

LordVan

any particular recommended version?

troquei

Hi. My first time here. Anybody from Brazil?

LordVan

i was just thinking of replacing my drupal + phpbb install with tiki

luciash

hi troquei, you use tiki ?

LordVan

for a new site

chibaguy

for sure it'd be great for tiki to be solid on postgres, but no devs are using it, afaik.

LordVan

my php is too rusty .. beeen using python mostly recently
i can do small fixes but that's it
LordVan installs mysql then ..

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luciash

LordVan: if you really need to stick with postgres, try bitweaver, the Tiki fork... iirc postgres is their main db there

[09:24]

LordVan

is 5.0.76 mysql ok?

troquei

Yes I do I use tiki

LordVan

i don't need to

luciash

LordVan: but if you have some knowledge you're welcome to contribute to fix postgres support for Tiki

LordVan

luciash, i just have my preferences ;)

troquei

I am looking for a php expert to help me configuring it.

luciash

troquei: great :)

troquei

it is for a humanitarian work.
I am creating a barter system here in Brazil

chibaguy

LordVan, you can search this channel for postgres talk: http://irc.amette.eu/irclogger_log_search/tikiwiki?search=postgres&action=search&error=0

LordVan

thanks :)

luciash

chibaguy: handy :)

LordVan

luciash, what was the reason for bitweaver fork? technical or political/personal ?

luciash

troquei: we're no experts, just humans here ;)
LordVan: mixture of them :)
LordVan: they wanted radical changes in core and be more object based

[09:27]

LordVan

rofl
i love the databascomparison on bitweaver page
http://www.bitweaver.org/wiki/DatabaseComparison :d

[09:28]

troquei

I got you luciash. So here is my place so
Anybody who knows well valentine?

[09:28]

luciash

valentine ?

[09:29]

troquei

http://valentina-db.com/

[09:30]

LordVan

thing is this is the first time i heard about bitweaver .. tiki i heard before ;)

[09:31]

luciash, your fault i gotta decide and maybe evaluate both tiki and bitweaver now :P

[09:36]

troquei

Anybody who could guide me a little bit?

[09:37]

luciash

LordVan: oops :)

[09:37]

LordVan

luciash, i mean i'm not planning a huge site but i would like whatever suits me best ..
luciash, ok in the getting-an-answer-on-irc dept tiki has the advantage so far ;)
also there's a gentoo ebuild .. for 2.2 only though

[09:37]

luciash

LordVan: yup yup, we're really friendly and responsive community ;)

[09:40]

troquei

where and how to get wiki developers getting involved in our project over here in Brazil?

[09:40]

luciash

troquei: any trouble installing/running tiki ? what do you need an "expert" for ?

[09:40]

troquei

configuration
have skype?
the project is over here: www.troquei.com

[09:41]

luciash

troquei: you don't need to be a PHP expert to configure running tiki ;)

[09:41]

troquei

we can barte work time hours...if you want
the install script did not work
I tried manually

[09:41]

luciash

LordVan

troquei, u r not trying to use not mysql like me r u ? ;)

troquei

I found some manuals about it, but I could not log in even with the write password.

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troquei

I created the db at the server

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[09:43]

troquei

yes I am using mysql
looking now the db comparision, I am rethinking
I would love to have valentine, but it is paid.
I love relational object oriented database

[09:43]

LordVan

troquei, i just been told that mysql is only really supported / used tiki db so dont' rethink ;)

troquei

but I don't know which open source db is the best one today.

LordVan

troquei, i guess u can use what u want if u have the time .. but if you want to get a site up and running some time soon .. ;)

troquei

iki db?
I don't care about the time as much it is the best motor for db
I use to use 4D, FileMaker other db
Now I started web development

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troquei

I am self taught, sorry if I do not get into the professional terms

luciash

luciash thinks we should support postgres fully when developer resources permits

troquei

you said: used tiki? what do you mean?

LordVan

i meant that it seems that tikiwiki only works (well) on mysql atm
luciash, that'd be cool

[09:46]

troquei

hahah I even don't know how to put (at the begining of the line over here) the name of the person I want to talk to. hehe :)
first time at Mibbit.com too

[09:46]

luciash

LordVan: i encourage you to join and submit your wish item to the tracker at http://dev.tikiwiki.org

[09:47]

troquei

thanks

[09:47]

luciash

troquei: you just start typing the nick and hit Tab key
can you guys access this tiki ? → http://test.ground.cz/tiki/3.0/tiki-index.php

[09:47]

troquei

Should I try tiki 3.0? Maybe the installation will work better. Or is 3.0 still too much instable?

[09:49]

LordVan

luciash, if so it is v slow

[09:49]

luciash

troquei: i recommend it
LordVan: times out ?

[09:49]

troquei

yes I can, here safari (macbook)

luciash

LordVan: it's running just for testing on my router, that's why it is slow ;)

troquei

thanks for the tip lucias, you are really nice guy

luciash

troquei: thx

troquei

luciash: It worked, yes

luciash

np, cool

[09:51]

LordVan

luciash, it still is loading :D
luciash, on the tiki webpage it does suggest to run some conversion scripts for sql scripts which i don't find anywhere in 2.4 tree
luciash, looking at just the extracted source trees i do have to say i like the structure of the bitweaver stuff better (not nearly everything in one directory ;))

[09:51]

luciash

LordVan: oh, weird, i got this timeout problem connecting from a friend in UK :-/ seems brittish ppl got some filtering of IP addresses, are we in china or what ? come on !

LordVan

well id uno where u r ;)

troquei

LordVan: here it load perfectly

LordVan

nope times out

luciash

LordVan: czech republic, but as troquei connects with no problem to it from brazil it must be country specific problem
LordVan: where are you ?

LordVan

luciash, i'm in austria .. i don't think there's some filtering here

luciash

hmm

troquei

Hey guys what do you think about valentine? I just saw it is up now valentine 4

luciash

from germany it's no problem too

LordVan

hmm

luciash

troquei: i never heard about it

troquei

I am not their seller, but I have followed this technology and it seems to be great

LordVan

maybe just some router weirdness somewhere

troquei

and there is PHP connection

http://valentina-db.com/

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tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18256 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] list forum topics + list blogs: fix the item count in this function (cant did not check the perms). Replace user_has_perm_on_object with new function get_perm_object.

troquei

have a look, I would like other opinions

LordVan

well i'm gonna grab some pizza .. cya later ;)

[09:59]

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tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18257 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] tikilib: remove unused functions

[09:59]

luciash

LordVan: later !
troquei: it seems proprietary db to me
troquei: if it's not opensource, i wouldn't recommend it

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[10:09]

jonnyb

polom

[10:11]

chibaguy

jonnyb: polom
recovered from tikifest?

[10:13]

jonnyb

oh yes, quite a well behaved one really ;)
without the free tapas temptations (also most of our pubs shut around midnight still, so sleep was available!)
i've been looking at the strasa / last-child thing - it looks bad without it i think, any other ideas?

[10:14]

chibaguy

I tried some experiments a while back but didn't find anything that gave the right result.
Would just replacing the border with some extra white (blue) space provide enough separation of modules?

[10:16]

jonnyb

so what do you think? Loose the inbetween modules border, or have the last one looking not so good? (i was thinking about some sort of top:-1 hack - yuk!)

[10:17]

chibaguy

heh, I tried such a hack with no good result, but may have missed a detail.

[10:18]

jonnyb

there is .box-footer available

[10:19]

chibaguy

a problem is that IE6 seems to not display the last module at all, so some change is needed (or else we advise to put the least important module last. ;-)

[10:19]

jonnyb

for me function has to override pretty - even for IE6 users (sadly)

[10:19]

chibaguy

true

[10:20]

jonnyb

i'm ok with having the bot border there on the last module - what do u think?

[10:20]

chibaguy

I think it's best for now, and maybe a better solution can be figured out later.

[10:20]

jonnyb

it's quite subtle - no one but us will notice :)
doing it...

[10:21]

chibaguy

probably so ;-)

[10:21]

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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18258 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Removing last-child selector on col2 module boxes as it's for CSS 3 only
tikiwiki: Was causing problems on IE6 especially (and not validating for CSS 2.1)

[10:23]

jonnyb

can you easily check ie6? (it's about a 30 mins setup & bootup for me)

[10:24]

chibaguy

Yes, I have it running here now.
I'll check

[10:24]

jonnyb

[10:25]

chibaguy

chibaguy watches tumbleweeds blow by while waiting for svn and ftp to finish.....

[10:30]

luciash

hey jonnyb :)

[10:31]

jonnyb

hi luciash - home safe i hope?

[10:31]

luciash

jonnyb: nope, i talk from the grave now
:D

LordVan

jonnyb

not surprised - 3a.m. taxi!

chibaguy

chibaguy watches first ftp client fail to connect and second client get updated....

luciash

jonnyb: ROFL

jonnyb

jonnyb Thinking of the days of doing 10 hour ftp sessions on dial-up, only to have them fail at 96%

[10:33]

LordVan

jonnyb, i'm glad those times r over :D

jonnyb

luciash

jonnyb: could you do me a favor if you can access and load http://test.ground.cz/tiki/3.0/tiki-index.php ? there's something weird in this world that some people get timeouts for the IP, including me when i was trying from matthew's flat

LordVan

luciash, i wonder if all the bitweaver devs r from around the world and sleep now ..

luciash

LordVan: no idea :-p

LordVan

i'm talking to myself there
sucks
so ..

jonnyb

luciash: connected fine - looks like a vanilla bare-bones tiki

LordVan

which version of tikiwiki should I try to install (using mysql for now)
2.2 is in gentoo portage tree
2.4 is mentioned in title of channel here
fresh install

luciash

jonnyb: great, must be some providers thingie then or i don't get it

LordVan

LordVan installs mysql for a start

[10:37]

luciash

jonnyb: it's DNS redirect to my home router and i didn't experience any problems until this TikiFest where i couldn't connect to it
jonnyb: and LordVan also reported timeout (he's from austria) so i was wondering it's per country weirdness ;)

[10:37]

jonnyb

TikiFest gremlins... the ones from Madrid made my laptop go funny!
i'll try a traceroute

[10:37]

luciash

jonnyb: oh, really, funy in what way ?
*funny
LordVan: 3.0 latest SVN ;)

[10:38]

jonnyb

laptop shuts down if you ignore it for 15 mins or so - it's very dull!

[10:39]

luciash

LordVan: it's gonna be released soon as RC
jonnyb: oh, must be some radical powersaving setting... you gonna save earth

[10:39]

LordVan

luciash, maybe dns changes recently?

[10:40]

luciash

LordVan: i haven't touched the DNS for couple of months

[10:40]

jonnyb

tracert to test.g.cz looks ok, 17 hops to fortech.cz where it gets stuck in firewalls

[10:40]

LordVan

13 hops here ;)

jonnyb

some slow ones (270ms!)
but i can't seem to get it to fail

LordVan

nah .. all < 100ms here

luciash

well, i can access test.g.cz without any problem but i think i have set up my firewall to not respond to pings so pinging test.g.cz returns unreachable for me too

LordVan

i can't ping it btw

luciash

can it cause http access to fail in some circumstances too ???

[10:42]

chibaguy

jonnyb: strasa left column works/looks ok in ie6.

[10:42]

LordVan

luciash, i'm not sure i'm comfortable installing lastest svn on a new site :P
although there won't be much content to start with
luciash, r there going to be any changes which require update pains? ;)

[10:43]

jonnyb

chibaguy: good - did the other fixes i made yesterday help your other "blockers"? (that page makes my head hurt now, can't tell what needs fixing ;) )

LordVan

maybe i'll just do sth as insane as that ;)

chibaguy

ie7 is also ok.

luciash

db upgrades shouldn't appear as we're in feature freeze, except there's security reason
LordVan: ^

LordVan

hm
ah well wth .. i'll give it a go .. unless u r telling me the RC will be out like today ;)
then i use that :P

luciash

LordVan: there's beta4 if you're not comfortable with SVN

[10:45]

LordVan

luciash, nah i'm fine with svn been using it for years myself .. just lazy :D

[10:46]

luciash

LordVan: well it can be tomorrow :-p
hehe, when i'm lazy i use SVN just because of that ;)

[10:46]

LordVan

luciash, btw i can sorta access your test page from my server in the uk ;)

luciash

heh
weirdness world

LordVan

text mode only is pointless it seems

chibaguy

jonnyb, menu folder icons not switching correctly for Strasa theme options (I still see the blue icon when in the mono theme option)

LordVan

like empty page
i also did a portscan D:
ssh, http and auth(113)
;)
fyi

luciash

LordVan: np

[10:48]

LordVan

luciash, will 3.0 work with this cool dark planet sth theme?

[10:48]

luciash

ask chibaguy but i believe so as he ported them all to 3.0 some weeks ago

[10:48]

LordVan

that'd be cool as i want to use it as base for my startrek.or.at page ;)

chibaguy

LordVan, do you mean planetfall?

LordVan

yes

chibaguy

Yes, I'm finishing up the 3.0 version for that theme.

LordVan

jonnyb

chibaguy: i know (option aware icons), but the fix would be too big now for 3.0 - 3.1 should get it though (if/when i can write it!)

luciash

luciash just got TikiFest UK pics down from his phone to his PC

LordVan

chibaguy

Also when on a page with its own theme specified and the current site theme has options, you can click on an option for a really cool combination of theme styles.
Not the highest priority for a fix, though.
Let's just look at it as first iteration of marc's theme generator. ;-)

[10:52]

jonnyb

i know - i missed adding options to theme control by object and section (also user prefs) - they're on my list
:))

[10:53]

chibaguy

it'd be good if column display/hide states were remembered between page changes.

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tikiwiki: 03pingus * r18259 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/styles/workspaces/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added the styles/workspaces subdir that was somehow lost.

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jonnyb

yes i saw that chibaguy, i'll have a look

chibaguy

Otherwise, I think most of the theme-related things are fixed. But like you, I have trouble finding things in the release process page.

[10:55]

sylvieg

hello

jonnyb

hi sylvieg

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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18260 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/mono.css: [CSS] Lighter menu separators and slightly darker module separators

sylvieg

I have no more arrow in the css menu for darkroom - is it volunteer or a bug?

chibaguy

I thought about bolding/making red the ones I added, but figured that might start a bug visibility war.

jonnyb

sylvieg: i tihnk luciash was doing things with those - i think it's a superfish related thing?

[10:57]

chibaguy

uh, that's my work, mostly.
(accepting responsibility for flakiness)

[10:57]

LordVan

how well is the forum part integrated with the rest of the wiki? (theme, linking forum posts to blogs,..)

luciash

chibaguy: are you mentoring that GSoC guy from India which wanted to work on the theme generator ?

sylvieg

it was nice some time ago ..... chibaguy fixed that ... but I do not know when they disspaear

chibaguy

I'm checking again, sylvieg.
no, luciash, I'm not.
I saw his proposal, but haven't done anything else.

sylvieg

I can check too - if no time - just need to be sure it is a bug (I do not follow all your discussion about look;-0)

[10:59]

chibaguy

sylvieg, do you have jquery turned on?

[10:59]

luciash

chibaguy: same here :-[11:00] * jonnyb is very happy he's found the nickname completion hotkey on his IRC client (little things...)
sylvieg: enable jquery
that renders superfish arrows

[10:59]

chibaguy

Currently, jquery/superfish is being used for the arrows.

[11:00]

luciash

sylvieg: it's a feature actually :-p

sylvieg

thanks luciash

luciash

maybe we should fallback to some arrows when jquery off though

sylvieg

true they appear if jquery on...

luciash

chibaguy: ^
jonnyb: hah

sylvieg

not sure it's worth...

chibaguy

The fallback is to put the mouse over the item and watch for dropdown. Good enough? ;-)

jonnyb

luciash: hmm?

luciash

chibaguy: *g*

sylvieg

but the arrows appear even if no sub menu :-(

luciash

jonnyb: hah to those little things, i agree

jonnyb

luciash

sylvieg: that's design problem of the menu sections

jonnyb

luciash: the full phrase goes "Little things please little minds"

luciash

sylvieg: if they're empty sections it shouldn't render them as sections
with empty uls

[11:04]

chibaguy

do they appear if no sub menu, if the item is an option?

[11:04]

luciash

chibaguy: i believe not

[11:04]

chibaguy

so, user error. ;-)

[11:05]

luciash

but as we use sections with items appearing based on perms/feature enable we cannot avoid that

[11:05]

sylvieg

the bug is only on the first level..
an option on the first level has always an arrow vertical or horizontal
second level is fine

[11:05]

luciash

sylvieg: are you sure they're not set to section type but option ?

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[11:06]

chibaguy

Hmm, I just change my menu to have options on the first level, and they have no arrow.

[11:07]

luciash

hmm

[11:07]

otrotabi

hi, I get the following error when trying to create a new page "Fatal error: Cannot redeclare wikiplugin_sql_help()", any ideas ?

[11:07]

luciash

luciash often thinks about having a clear all chache icon for admins next to the fullscreen one ;)
otrotabi: sorry, no idea as i don't use it

[11:08]

otrotabi

you don´t create pages ?
I just type "new page" Create and the error shows up

[11:09]

chibaguy

otrotabi, he doesn't use the sql wikiplugin, I believe he means.

[11:10]

sylvieg

thanks luciash - you were right I had a section level 0
sorry

[11:10]

chibaguy

That's not a plugin that's normally ative.
active
activated

[11:11]

LordVan

LordVan reads tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki+vs+Drupal and others

[11:11]

luciash

otrotabi: sorry, i thought it's related to wikiplugin_sql
otrotabi: go to Admin > Textarea preferences and switch it off

[11:11]

otrotabi

no, actually I think it comes from there, but now I get it everywhere
ok

[11:12]

luciash

otrotabi: what version ?

[11:12]

marclaporte

marclaporte wrote a lot of the TikiWiki vs pages an is curious to see what people think

[11:13]

otrotabi

3.0

LordVan

marclaporte, alos read tikisucks page .. ;)

luciash

jonnyb: are we still going to rename it from "Textarea" to "Content Edit" or something ? ;)

otrotabi

can´t access textarea in the admin page, same error

|dthacker|

polom

jonnyb

luciash: exactly - it was the "or something" that we got stuck on...

luciash

otrotabi: oh ! i'll try to reproduce

LordVan

question: how usable is a tiki site (wthout [much] additional effort) to read from say a mobile phone browser?

luciash

LordVan: we have mobile mode

LordVan

luciash

LordVan: but it's fine in Opera Mini

LordVan

luciash, btw test.g.cz works from my new server in .de as well
luciash, cool

jonnyb

luciash: i was hoping to get time to at least stick some little plugin images on the textarea icon... to make it look a bit more important

LordVan

LordVan just installed mysql 5.0.76 for tiki

jonnyb

LordVan: it's reasonable on iPhone Safari (would love to do a proper iPhone tiki app!)

LordVan

LordVan doesn't have nor want an iphone
google android phone seems more applealing to me ;)
or the other linux based one i forgot the name of .. LiMo alliance or st

marclaporte

LordVan: : tell me what you think

[11:17]

LordVan

marclaporte, i like page about why wiki syntax is important

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[11:19]

jonnyb

chibaguy: (and anyone else) - i'm looking for the code that's supposed to set col1 or 3 visible state on page load and there isn't any - i can't see how this worked in 2 - anyone got any ideas?

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[11:21]

LordVan

marclaporte, will do

[11:22]

jonnyb

so chibaguy, as it (setcolumnstate) seems to have been removed afaics, it would be a new feature on 3.0, so will have to wait for 3.1 - sorry :(

[11:24]

chibaguy

jonnyb, I'm only aware of what's in tiki.tpl, nothing deeper...
chibaguy says from shallow end of pool....

[11:24]

luciash

chibaguy: LOL

[11:25]

jonnyb

i couldn't see anything in there apart from attaching the events to the links - there should be a "setsomethingstate('col1')" thing somewhere like in modules & menus

[11:25]

luciash

jonnyb: it worked for thenews iirc
jonnyb: dunno when it changed to be broken again

[11:26]

jonnyb

jonnyb reminded to go and look for his snorkel - holidays tomorrow!!

[11:26]

luciash

jonnyb: ah, yes, great, go for it ! :D

[11:27]

jonnyb

well there doesn't seem to be any code i can find that's supposed to do it - and it uses the weird cookie jar thing instead of get/setCookie
if you know how it's supposed to work i'll try and fix it...

[11:27]

luciash

jonnyb: maybe the support for the weird cookie jar got dropped ;)

[11:28]

jonnyb

i believe so - cookies are mandatory now, tight?
*right? ;)

[11:28]

luciash

jonnyb: it should just store the state of the column in cookie and remember it, nothing else complicated afaik
jonnyb: might be i'm wrong

[11:29]

jonnyb

sure, but when the page loads a function (that doesn't seem to exist) needs to be called (by code that also doesn't seem to exist)
like for modules/tpl - line 64
"setsectionstate("blahblah"...

[11:29]

LordVan

LordVan tries to unerstand tiki profiles ..

[11:32]

luciash

i'll try to dig it out from the svn history... we don't want you to distract from the pre-holiday snorkel searching fun ;)

[11:33]

jonnyb

so - i really am going to go and find my mask etc, and then will get back to trying to fix the versions plugin (again!) - see y'all later, or later

[11:33]

LordVan

luciash, which php mysql extension should i install? mysql or mysqli ?

[11:34]

luciash

mysqli should be more reliable as the i suggests ;)
the "i"

LordVan

how come?

|dthacker|

so experts, what are my chances of doing a 1.9 to 3.0 upgrade?

luciash

"i" as improved

LordVan

hmm k
;)

luciash

lunch time !

http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Installation

LordVan

heh i'm done with that already ;)

[11:36]

jonnyb

|dthacker|: i'd do a 1.9 to 2.4, than 2.4 to 3.0 rather than in one step - locally on a copy DB if possible
good luck! :))

[11:36]

|dthacker|

ok, I'll give that strategy a try.....

[11:37]

jonnyb

let us know how you get on please (although i will be underwater by then probably - tee hee!)

[11:38]

chibaguy

|dthacker, I'm not sure if you can upgrade directly to 3.0 or if it needs to be to 2.0 first. Anyone know?

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[11:39]

jonnyb

chibaguy: i'd always try and upgrade in as small steps as possible - so yes, 1.9 to 2 - then to 3
and keep copies along the way (of the DB)
do any CSS stuff once though, i can't see the point of going through the pain of updating a theme twice if you can avoid it!
bibi

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[11:43]

LordVan

LordVan gets svn trunk ..

[11:49]

luciash

LordVan: nono
if you want 3.0 get branches/3.0

[11:49]

LordVan

[11:57]

chibaguy

bbl

[11:57]

LordVan

luciash, don't say that anywhere on the webpage :P
afaik

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luciash

LordVan: which page

[12:07]

LordVan

one about svn checkouts
it don't mention 3.0
just 2.0 and trunk

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[12:14]

LordVan

luciash, ist the isntall same as for 2.x ?
unpack and go to tiki-install.php

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[12:23]

troquei

luciash: It was 4 am here. I slep. Thanks
LordVan: I am just starting with tiki, should I take the risk and go direct to 3.0?

[12:25]

luciash

LordVan: yes
>doctwo Installation

[12:26]

Sug4r`

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>devtwo SVNTips

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SVNTips

Sug4r`

LordVan

troquei, same here ;)

luciash

troquei: yup, more testers we have for beta4 before final release, that better ;)

[12:28]

LordVan

wth
it only gives me postgresql and sqlite for choice
ah wait restarting apache prolly helps ..

[12:29]

luciash

LordVan: yup

[12:29]

LordVan

prev. php had no mysql
luciash, hmm did i miss a new dep?: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ctype_digit() in /var/www/www.startrek.or.at/htdocs/lib/Horde/Yaml/Loader.php on line 374
after db setup

[12:29]

luciash

LordVan: nope, you need ctype support in PHP

[12:32]

LordVan

argh
anythign else? i might have forgotten?

[12:32]

luciash

yep, i have had the same argh on my gentoo

[12:32]

LordVan

rofl
apache2 bcmath berkdb bzip2 calendar cjk cli crypt ctype* curl exif filter gd gdbm gmp hash iconv imap inifile ipv6 mhash mysqli ncurses nls pcre posix postgres readline reflection session snmp soap sockets spell spl sqlite ssl threads tidy tokenizer truetype unicode wddx xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter xsl zip zlib
look good?

[12:33]

luciash

dunno why gentoo comes with no ctype by default

[12:33]

LordVan

well

[12:33]

luciash

looks good to me

LordVan

k i'm not keen on re-compiling php again ;)

luciash

if you don't need gzip
maybe it's included in other lib, i'm not sure

LordVan

?
it's not in any of the disabled USEs

luciash

in tiki you can use gzip compression
well, ok, then it's in zlib or something else probably

[12:35]

LordVan

i'm sure it's in zlib actually ;)

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[12:44]

LordVan

hmm now i gotta choose a profile ..
hmm
a description of what is what would be nice ..
;)
ah wait there is a link
but what is if i happen to choose a wrong one ?
still gotta think what to use .. hmm
i know it says that u can switch to another one if u start with bare- bones but what if i start iwth .. say community?
ah well worst case it'll be flattened :D
collaborative community it is ;)
great ..
Fatal error: Call to a member function isCached() on a non-object in /var/www/www.startrek.or.at/htdocs/tiki-setup_base.php on line 373
suggestions?
happens after choosing a profile btw
luciash, any clue? ;)

[12:44]

luciash

hrm

[12:57]

LordVan

ah .. iforgot turning off magic quotes gpc
could it have to do with that?
no idea? :(
adjusted all php.ini settings ..same problem
it's that line:
if ( ! $cachelib->isCached("allperms") ) {

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[13:09]

sylvieg

LordVan: try to svn up
perhaps I am lucky

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[13:10]

LordVan

hmm ok
trying
sylvieg, u might or might not be .. igot a blank page - restarting now asks me if i want to upgrade existing,..
seems to work so far :D
how do i get the planetfall theme now for 3.0 ?
i mean darkroom is nice but planetfall looks cool

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[13:23]

LordVan

sylvieg, thanks for the fast fix ;)

[13:27]

sylvieg

I was lucky ;-)

[13:27]

luciash

LordVan: try svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes//planetfall_tiki_3
svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/planetfall_tiki_3

[13:32]

LordVan

in a min ;)
luciash, so where do i stick it ?

[13:32]

luciash

then see the Readme.txt

[13:33]

LordVan

doign that
i should really read first ;)

[13:33]

luciash

i'd recommend svn somewhere out of 3.0 and copy there after

[13:34]

LordVan

sure

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[13:38]

LordVan

hmm seems a bit buggy still
location of bar / menu thing
at top

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[13:42]

LordVan

luciash, who does maintain planetfall? (u can have a look at what i mean at http://www.startrek.or.at)

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[13:49]

luciash

LordVan: chibaguy

[13:52]

LordVan

ok :)
i use darkroom for now i think

[13:53]

luciash

LordVan: for nuw you can disable location bar / menu thing and use your own code in custom code textarea
*now
i have no time to look at it atm, sorry

[13:53]

LordVan

well i'm trying out / setting up still ;)
no problem
it works i'll tell u if i ifnd bugs

[13:54]

Beestje

marclaporte: I went over all the open / pending items in TrackerId 5 and set the Feature and Report type where the info was missing

[14:02]

marclaporte

Beestje: : thank you very much. This will avoid duplicates and help us be better organized

[14:03]

Beestje

During the next few days I'll see if I can get rid of some duplicate items

[14:03]

marclaporte

LordVan: : Intranet profile is most complete

[14:03]

Beestje

marclaporte: as these are only the open/pending ones, I'll start on the closed bugs...
so hopefully it'll stop even more duplicate bugs

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[14:06]

LordVan

marclaporte, well it is supposed to be a community site so that was fine i just enabled extra stuff :)

[14:08]

marclaporte

LordVan: did you read up a bit on profiles?

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[14:09]

LordVan

yes

[14:11]

marclaporte

http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Collaborative_Community -> Please let me know of any features you would have expected to have in this profile. If you can add to wiki page, great. If not, let me know, and I will
a lot is missing
turning on forums
messages, etc.

[14:15]

LordVan

marclaporte, i might have expected forum / blogs
i enabled those ;)
also enabled polls
yeah it is basically just wiki isn't it?

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[14:20]

marclaporte

yes, just look at Intranet as a good example, and edit wiki page
then, when you re-run the profile, it will be activated
and for the thousands of other people that will run it as well :-)

[14:21]

LordVan

heh

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[14:26]

.... (idle for 15mn)

tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18266 10/branches/3.0/db/ (6 files): [FIX] update db creation files
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18267 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/ (release.php svntools.php): [ENH] release script: add an interactive mode, new options and more checks

[14:41]

LordVan

how stable are the experimental features generally?

[14:51]

marclaporte

if used alone, usually ok
but they can fight with others

[14:52]

LordVan

what about the 'seems ok' section ;)
like mobile tiki and/or ajax

[14:55]

marclaporte

mobile works fine
ajax: not even sure why it's a checkbox
but could have side effects on stuff

[14:56]

LordVan

well i'm asking cuz i'm not sure ;)
ok well i'm interested in mobiel
hmm tiki can generate rss feeds automatically right?

[14:57]

marclaporte

that is self-contained
very stable
but no recent dev

[14:58]

LordVan

since FF doesn't show me the live bookmarks / rss feed icon

[14:59]

ricks99

rick's pretty boxes are gone on doc & dev. :(

[15:01]

LordVan

cya ppl

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[15:10]

tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18269 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_versions.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Now works as advertised with the simple example on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginVersions (tested locally - needs more real world testing)
tikiwiki: Not changed nav=n mode as i don't understand it (the code or the intention)
tikiwiki: Needs a proper overhaul IMHO

[15:21]

ricks99

Yeah jonnyb !!!!!
THANK YOU

[15:22]

jonnyb

hope it holds - the code's completely mad in there (just doing that bit took 4 or 5 hours!)
ricks99: did you ever find out about your pretty boxes?

[15:22]

ricks99

looks like they were removed during one of the last svn-ups
prob ok, they were not 100% xhtml valid
(but boy did they look pretty) :)

[15:23]

jonnyb

see what you mean

[15:24]

ricks99

i will take a look @ the VERSION plugin. next request is to have a different theme, per version

[15:24]

jonnyb

we (me, luciash & matwho) were testing out running both doc and dev on strasa/cold and i think the roundy boxes went all mad
jonnyb rolls on floor thinking about theme per version!

[15:25]

marclaporte

go Jonny go!

[15:28]

SEWilco2

SEWilco2 fastens rubber to jonnyb's walls

[15:28]

jonnyb

ok gang - a couple of hours left, what's next blocking 3.0? (that release process page makes my brain itch)
what's happening with the pluginedit icons? they're all over the place now - anyone know why they're not right floats anymore?
i'd like a checkbox to turn them all on or off, but that's a feature
(checkbox per page i mean)

[15:32]

marclaporte

it's a global feature indeed

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[15:36]

jonnyb

i have visions of a switch near the edit icon, and then when you rollover a pluged-in thing, it highlights and the edit icon appears... mmmm

[15:37]

marclaporte

jonnyb: : the installer.: the user should type "their" email to receive test

[15:37]

SEWilco2

jonnyb: You mean you have visions of icons for icons? Should there be icons for icons for icons?

[15:38]

jonnyb

meta-icons, nice
marclaporte: ok, i'll go look (scared of the installer)

[15:38]

sylvieg

jonnyb: icon edit is a compromise
floating was creating problem for tikiwiki suntax that must begin at the line beginnig

[15:39]

jonnyb

ah, thought so sylvieg - thanks

[15:40]

marclaporte

also needed: flash plugin quicktag should work all the time (in forums, in trackers, etc)

[15:41]

sylvieg

I have no idea what is the best for plugin edit
I will go with online like now but with a smaller icon (like external link)

[15:41]

ricks99

@marc: but the installer tests the server's ability to SEND -- not recieve

[15:42]

jonnyb

something "invisible" i think, that appears on rollover when you want it to (for trunk - one day)
marclaporte: should the email test be after the "fill your details in" page? (step 7) or add an input to step 3?

[15:43]

marclaporte

ricks99: : yes, but unless I receive that email, how can I be confident that it worked?

[15:46]

sylvieg

sylvieg thinks that the edit plugin icon should never be in the view page - only in the edit page

ricks99

jonnyb

agreed (both marclaporte & sylvieg)

marclaporte

plus, I may not want to share info with info@tikiwiki.org

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ricks99

@marc: ah.. i see. u mean have the user enter their own TO address
sendthe test mail wherever they want

marclaporte

marclaporte doesn't see how __edit plugin icon in edit page__ would work

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jonnyb

& how about an optional "copy info@tw.o"?

marclaporte

ricks99 : y
jonnyb: , optional: add this email address to tikiwiki newsletter

ricks99

or make info@tw.o the default, and usr can change

sylvieg

marclaporte: perhaps a tiki-editpage bis that allows only plugin edit

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[15:49]

jonnyb

sylvieg: agreed - an "edit plugins" mode/action would be good

[15:50]

ricks99

@jonnyb: versions plugin works great 4 me. many tx

[15:50]

jonnyb

[15:50]

ricks99

1 thing....
in PREVIEW, all versions should be displayed
otherwise, theres no way to preview a page in a version other than the default

[15:51]

jonnyb

interesting... let's call that a feature for now?

[15:51]

ricks99

imho a bug

jonnyb

oh right, it only show default now

ricks99

i had a hack a while ago
now that uve done the hard part, i'll re-add it

jonnyb

i think it needs a complete rewrite - should have a JS option (so no postback) etc
super

ricks99

... and unique theme support!

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[15:56]

marclaporte

jonnyb: : step 3 or 7: i don't know rick?

[15:59]

jonnyb

i was thinking of putting it in 3 - less disruption

[15:59]

SEWilco2

marclaporte: I think step 3 is "Profit!" :-)

[16:00]

ricks99

+1 for 3. this is a prerequisite.
no good if i complete the installation and *then* learn that I cant sent registration emails

[16:00]

jonnyb

good point

[16:01]

SEWilco2

ricks99: Yeah. Right now I'm trying to test whether registration emails are being sent. Seem to not.
ricks99: But my email problem seems to be in my server, not TW.

[16:01]

ricks99

i've see 1000s of 'test emails'
code is definately working for some

[16:02]

marclaporte

1000s?
(wow)

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[16:04]

ricks99

in fact may think about creating a new mail box specifically for testing? maybe one that will automatically echo back "test received"

[16:05]

marclaporte

ricks99: : excellent idea. You have the password for that?
We could have SubscribeTikiNews@tikiwiki.org too

[16:05]

sacra

hello all

ricks99

for the server? no. i just have the info@tw.o

marclaporte

which would redirect to SF Mailing list

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sacra

I think there's a bug with the LDAP (and possibly IMAP, POP3) auth in Tikiwiki
since version 1.9.x, also in 2.0 through to 2.4
and if nobody touched that code, will be also in 3.0
there are two tracker items about it but no one has commented on them

sylvieg

what are these bugs?

[16:09]

sacra

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1990&trackerId=5&show=view
that one I reported myself
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1011&highlight=ldap
and this one some other guy/girl did

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sacra

oops, back

[16:11]

sylvieg

Create user if not in Tiki?" is on - perhaps it is not a good idea

[16:11]

sacra

I know, but if I turn it off nobody is able to login except admin

[16:12]

marclaporte

ricks99: : you have mail

[16:12]

sacra

and someone documented this as the correct behavior
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/LDAP+authentication

[16:12]

ricks99

mailtest @ tw.o ?
anyone have a better suggestion?

[16:13]

sacra

if you see it, it's actually in bold: If this option is disabled, this user wouldn't be able to log in

[16:13]

jonnyb

ricks99: +1 - can you set it up?

[16:14]

ricks99

y. will u change code in installer? mailtest@tikiwiki.org

[16:14]

jonnyb

actually, how about mailtest30@tw.o? so we can track versions
yup, i'm in there now

[16:14]

sacra

that other guy investigated it deeply and concluded that the problem was related to session handling

[16:15]

marclaporte

jonnyb: , so can there be optional register to mailing list as well?

[16:15]

jonnyb

or i can put the version in the subject

ricks99

@marc: that could be included in the auto-respond

marclaporte

or maybe this should be done elsewhere, or not at all

sacra

today I spent almost all day looking at it and that does seem to be the problem

ricks99

1 sec....

marclaporte

ricks99: ah very smart

jonnyb

marclaporte: i'm adding a checkbox to copy test to something@tw.o - can you do some good wordings? (and a link to our privacy policy i guess)

[16:17]

sacra

the $user variable is empy/not set when the "login box" checks for the user
the $user variable is empty because tiki-setup_base.php was unable to set it correctly

[16:19]

sylvieg

sacra: your problem is different - you can .log in tiki - and tiki is too permisive
the other guy can not log in

[16:20]

ricks99

mailtest@tikiwiki.org ready for testing
comments/suggestions for response?

sacra

I'm not so sure of that, because maybe he had "create user if not in tiki" off

marclaporte

an old idea: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Custom+email+message+to+new+tikiwiki.org+registrants

sacra

if I have that off, I get the same behavior as he does
the way it works with the option on is that the first time a user logins, TW connects to LDAP and if everything is OK an account is created on Tiki
however, the user is *not* logged in
on subsequent login attempts, he *is* logged in because TW just connects to Tiki
and completely disregards the LDAP

ricks99

ahh... a MUCH better email message
how to handle i18n?

[16:25]

marclaporte

perhaps a wiki page should be used, and we try to keep up to date and translated
so these emails we send can be shorter and mostly the link

[16:26]

sylvieg

sacra: in lib/userslib.php there is lines elseif ($userTiki && !$userAuthPresent) {if ($create_auth) {...} else return 'NO'
so I do not see how you can log if you are in tw but not in ldap

[16:26]

ricks99

a Welcome to First Time Installers page?

[16:27]

marclaporte

sure
we used to use Freshmeat as an announce mailing list for releases
I think we are ready to Dogfood now

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[16:28]

sacra

sylvieg: because when you are in tw, you don't even get there
above on that same file, line 353, you have the condition $auth_pear && $prefs['auth_create_user_tiki'] == 'y' && $userTiki)
this is always true when you are using PEAR:Auth, have "create user if not in Tiki" on and the user is already on Tw
and in that case TW just executes return array($this->update_lastlogin($user), $user, $result);
LDAP is not involved, validate_user_auth is never called

[16:29]

sylvieg

dammit you are right - I never noticed beacuse I use the real name in tiki not the ldap login

[16:39]

sacra

sylvieg: good :) but that's just the first part

[16:40]

marclaporte

sacra fait sacrer Sylvie :-)

[16:40]

sacra

then you will see that even if validate_user_auth is called when user is in tw, due to this session handling woes the user is never logged in
I checked some very old commits, and all since 2006 for auth-related stuff, and there was one where there seemed to be a relevant difference between PHP 4 and 5

[16:42]

marclaporte

sounds like sacra did his/her homework

[16:43]

sacra

but I've changed the code in many places by now and can't fix it
I know very little about PHP in general and zero about PHP session handling, so that doesn't help :)

[16:44]

marclaporte

a million monkeys

[16:44]

sacra

I'm a guy by the way
I noticed that Auth.php, from PEAR:Auth calls session_start() so I thought that may be the problem
the $user variable is empty because tiki-setup_base.php can't get it from the _SESSION or from _SERVER

[16:45]

sylvieg

I think the major problem is that 'Create user if not in Tiki.' should not en on to log in

[16:47]

sacra

which suggests that it was reset somewhere

[16:48]

jonnyb

ricks99: looks like you're working on tiki-installer.php too? have you finished? (just adding the new addy i guess)

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sacra

sylvieg: I agree that it should be off but if you look at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=LDAP+authentication, it's just weird
it says "Tiki then uses the LDAP server in addition to its own user database (users_users) to authenticate users."
first of all, seems to suggest that it's either TW or TW+LDAP, so no LDAP alone, which is what I want by the way

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sylvieg

but tikiwiki acn not work if there is no user...
so the user must created in the background

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sacra

but in that case, when user is in LDAP but not in TW and TW automatically creates an account on TW, after that it makes "some" sense that it never connects to LDAP
but this is not how it should work

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sylvieg

I agree... I will not be able to 'test' on the ldap I have access =- I will write to other guys using ldap to explain

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ricks99

just new address
installer should be ok

[17:05]

jonnyb

thanks ricks99 - merging locally now

[17:06]

sacra

sylvieg: the changes that I've made so far already fix the problem of not connecting to the LDAP *always*
my tw now always connects to LDAP
the problem is that due to the session issue this means that nobody is able to log in except admin :P

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sylvieg

sacra: mail sent to nyloth ... we will se what he thinks

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luciash

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sacra

sylvieg: thanks, I have lots of other stuff to do still today, but will check back tomorrow

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sylvieg

ok thanks

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Floh1111

Hi is anyone of the admins who are organizing the svn access here?

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Caarrie

Caarrie pokes marclaporte

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Floh1111

Caarrie: thank you :P I already asked him if he's online because i remebered his name from the mailinglist :) ...maybe i just wait

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Caarrie

there are a few others they just might be busy elsewhere

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Floh1111

mhh okay

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i'll ask him tomorrow... gn8

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tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18274 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French translation

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luciash

sylvieg: mail

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sylvieg

luciash: ... I am scrotching my head...

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marclaporte

jonnyb: do you still have stuff coming for installer?

[20:59]

sylvieg

luciash: is my commit message not enough clear?

[21:01]

luciash

sylvieg: well, it is but the fix breaks other things

[21:02]

jonnyb

marclaporte: just, half way through fixing up a better test mail routine, but not quite working yet (and have been out for snooker and beers - so tomorrow too late?)

[21:03]

marclaporte

tomorrow is fine
:-)

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luciash

sylvieg: at least i understand you made a fix to display site ads (banners) when no sitelogo is used but it also contained the custom code part which is now disabled when user have sitelogo enabled

[21:04]

marclaporte

flash plugin in blogs, trackers, etc still needs some love

[21:04]

sylvieg

ah ok I see..

[21:05]

luciash

jonnyb: tomorrow too late for catching your plane if you will sit here whole night ;)

[21:06]

sylvieg

one {if} must go up...

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jonnyb

i'll check with nyloth as it's is sort of a new feature, but i think it'll be ok (probably no time for quicktags in blogs etc - off to airport tomorrow afternoon - i'll see what i can do though ;) )
luciash: it's a late flight ;)

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sylvieg

this tiki-site_header is tricky...

[21:09]

luciash

jonnyb: hehe
sylvieg: yup, it is

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sylvieg

btw code indentation in 3 can be very problematic in merge if the file changed independently on trunk

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tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r18277 10/trunk/lib/core/test/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: - removed unnecessary timestamp in the filename
tikiwiki: - moved dump files from the db restorer to the tests
tikiwiki: - solved a bug in profiling db restorer (microtime(true))
tikiwiki: - refactored SeleniumTestCase

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sylvieg

i rolledb ack - so need to find my error config again

[21:25]

luciash

sylvieg: thanks, sorry, i'll not indent in 3 anymore then but i think it hasn't changed in trunk

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sylvieg

it is ok ... just that if we can avoid - it will be easier..

luciash

huh ? french 80% i thought it's almost 100% ;)

sylvieg

humm - now I rolled back, I have 2 banners
fr 3.0 no - it was left behind

[21:30]

luciash

sylvieg: i think i already fighted with two banners clones already too in there :-p

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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18279 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-site_header.tpl: [FIX]banner: not to have 2 banners if no logo + cutom code

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luciash

luciash still wonders why his {jq} $jq( function() { $jq("#sitelogo img").reflect(); } ); {/jq} in custom code doesn't show up

[21:36]

sylvieg

I tested the 3 setting log+custom+banner - ... seems ok
luciash: perhaps the code is stripped...

[21:37]

luciash

the custom code div is there but empty
when i add TEST out of the jq smarty block it shows up too, hmm
jonnyb: ^ ?

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marclaporte

marclaporte is very proud of TikiWiki community
3.0 is shaping up amazingly

[21:39]

jonnyb

hi luciash - sorry, was eating - {jq} in custom code? haven't tried it - should work & your fn looks ok - what happens in the page source?

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luciash

jonnyb: np, it doesn't any marks of it

[21:41]

jonnyb

the code would be in the <head>
just after the cookie-jar bit

[21:41]

luciash

in the custom code div

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jonnyb

no, the {jq} code gets added to the header with $headerlib

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luciash

aah, really ? jq moves there ? i thought it creates script section where put
then i'll re-check, no wonder no marks of it there then ;)

[21:42]

jonnyb

no, seemed sense to put it with all the other headerlib JS (which we'll move to the end of the page in 4.0, y?)
the other possibility is that the custom code doesn't get the {jq} smarty prefilter applied to it - in which case you'll need to enclose {'s etc with {literal} blocks

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luciash

hmm, no marks of it in header neither

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[21:45]

luciash

this is funny: jqueryTiki.replection = true;
jonnyb: ah, right, might be the case

[21:45]

jonnyb

not even something like the ' img").reflect()' bit? - i'll try here

[21:46]

luciash

i'll try literal first

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jonnyb

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marclaporte

about trackers with duplicate names....

[21:50]

luciash

jonnyb: hmm, imho this should work but doesn't either: {literal}{jq} $jq("#sitelogo img").reflect(); {/jq}{/literal}

[21:51]

jonnyb

ah, sorry - should be {jq}{literal} $jq("#sitelogo img").reflect(); {/literal}{/jq}
the {jq} bits need to be smarty parsed
(twice if possible) - i'll have a fiddle here...
have you tried {jq}alert("hello tiki");{/jq}

[21:52]

luciash

*g*
nope, going to try now

[21:54]

jonnyb

jonnyb finds a left over test from when writing it - looks like i used to work...

[21:54]

luciash

no alert dialog :-/

[21:55]

jonnyb

me 2 :(
found it in the source tho - looks like something is re-encoding it...

[21:55]

luciash

{jq} $jq("#sitelogo img").reflect(); {/jq} should work

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jonnyb

the {jq} tag isn't getting picked up - do any smarty plugins work there?

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jonnyb

or is it only wiki_plugins?

luciash

{$user} used to work there

jonnyb

aha - try {JQ} etc
no, not thatr