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btiffin: Excuse the interruption. Just got word that the PHP module (developer in Japan) for OpenCOBOL is almost ready for release. It'll be more motivation to "get with the Tiki". http://add1tocobol.com/tiki-index.php for anyone interested to see what we're building (slowly it seems) with Tiki 2.2
<br> And on another topic. I've only had a few minutes to play with PostgreSQL and Tiki 3. But at or around line 247 in installer/installib.php there needs to be a case added for 'pqsql', otherwise the fetchRow kaks. I'll accumulate some more deets before I file any bug reports, as I'm not sure as to how time will allow for more testing.
<br> I put in case 'pgsql':
<br> $result = $this->query( "select * from information_schema.tables where table_schema='public' and table_type='
<br> BASE TABLE'" );
<br> break;
<br> but I'm unclear on if that returns anywhere near the right fields. More soon (or later).
<br> AS a matter of fact, re-reading, it won't be good. select * glares out at me now. ;)
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chibaguy: it's good to see more people looking into PostgreSQL.
marclaporte: yup
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chibaguy: Not a bug, but a mystery: why ie7 shows a text cursor outside of the normal places. In some themes, it's just in the site header; in others it's the whole page...
<br> well, maybe it's a bug, but fairly innocuous
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Beestje: good morning all!
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LordVan: hi
<br> i ahve to point out that some translations are still missing in 3.0 (for german)
<br> I haven't looked yet, but i can prolly help with that ;)
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mib_4evi9u: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a database issue dealing with categories?
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Beestje: <u>mib_4evi9u</u>: perhaps I can help, but unsure... having a bit of a hangover :/
mib_4evi9u: I appreciate it but I actually found what I needed. It had been a couple months and for some reason I was looking for like a tiki_categorized table when I needed tiki_objects
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luciash: polomorning !
Beestje: polom!
luciash: <u>LordVan</u>: you're welvome to
<br> <u>Beestje</u>: hi :)
Beestje: good morning :D
luciash: <u>LordVan</u>: *welcome (even) ;)
LordVan: :D
<br> luciash, is there some guide on where / how to fix/do translations? (i didn't look yet as i'm supposed to be working now ;))
luciash: only two days before scheduled release !
LordVan: r u trying to rush me? :P
luciash: <u>LordVan</u>: commonly we use opening lang/de/language.php in utf-8 text editor and translate there directly after running the get_strings.php script (see comments in language.php for help) or look for i18n on tw.o
<br> heh, nope, not at all ;)
LordVan: ;)
luciash: the get_strings script has some nice params which can help you with context or shows you simmilar strings
LordVan: hmm well i'll see if i get time it just weird to have some strings in english - i mean it don't bother me as u might guess but might annoy ppl
luciash: it has also &groupwrite param in URL which allows you to edit the file as normal user (not apache ;))
<br> no rush ;)
<br> all languages has some untranslated strings
<br> some even many .-p
LordVan: hehe
<br> any particular fixes since 2 days ago? that i should apply righ tnow or just wait for release?
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luciash: just svn up ;) sorry, got some work here, later !
LordVan: i'm not to keen to svn up every day until release :P
chibaguy: LordVan, probably not many changes from now until release will involve text strings to be translated.
<br> Most will be other kinds of fixes.
<br> Of course, you never know.
<br> But many language files are not very complete, so there's plenty of opportunity for new translations.
<br> :-)
<br> Maybe you can see what would be the best strings to translate (like in the places most people will see, etc.) and do those first.
<br> luci mentioned running the get_strings script, but I think you can also just find existing strings needing translation in lang/de/language.php, etc.
LordVan: ;)
<br> chibaguy, there'S one string missing when registering an accout in german it hink ;)
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chibaguy: Well, you can find that string in lang/de/language.php and translate it, following the pattern of translated strings in the file.
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chibaguy: Uncommented lines are translations, first instance of string is as it appears in code, second is the translation, separated by => I think.
<br> Be sure your editor saves with utf-8 encoding.
LordVan: i always save as utf8 ;)
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luciash: *for
<br> there's also translation assistant built-in to tiki but the translations must go to db and i am not sure we have export from db to language.php file then
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: do you prefer the default strasa header gradient too ?
chibaguy: maybe something between the new cold header and the original strasa gradient.
<br> If the idea is to look modern, I don't think the cold header and its flat-with-rounded-edge is the best graphic to use.
luciash: it's kind of funny how everyone senses differ when it comes to look & feel
chibaguy: Actually I was going to do a new graphic file, then got the mail so probably I shouldn't... ;-)
luciash: rounded edge ?
chibaguy: I mean the bottom border.
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chibaguy: a little rounded bevel
luciash: you mean that shadow or that login bar ?
chibaguy: shadow
luciash: ah, ok
chibaguy: about the login bar, should its color be changed too?
luciash: i don't know
chibaguy: You can check here if you don't have branch 3 up someplace: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/
luciash: what about having original strasa look at dev and keep this "more conservative" cold theme option on doc.tw.o only ?
<br> oooh, nice new theme !
<br> just the register is misplaced and the menu items have text aligned too much on bottom edge of the background graphic
chibaguy: ah, maybe kind of broken, I'm in the middle of adapting themes to use layout.css....
luciash: Milkyway
chibaguy: yeah, it's the default joomla theme. ;-)
<br> gpl
luciash: switching to strasa now ;)
<br> aah, didn't know that
luminoso: i found a bug
<br> where can i report it?
<br> or maybe can u test it?
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: strasa cold now, what is the difference again ? .)
luminoso: http://luminoso.ws/twb/tiki-list_file_gallery.php
chibaguy: besides the header, also the buttons, data table headings, cbox title and border, that I recall.
luminoso: collapse explore tree
<br> then expand it again
chibaguy: I noticed also blog post and forum post title backgrounds/text should be changed probably.
<br> ...to get rid of dark blue rectangles in the content area.
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: ah, i see now
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: are you going to try that "something-between" header gradient there ?
chibaguy: luminoso, not all the jquery effects work well. I think that is the problem on your page.
luminoso: chibaguy, ty
chibaguy: I noticed a similar thing with module display/hide.
<br> So settled on one jquery effect that seems to work everywhere.
<br> luciash, I think I'll repeat the header graphic in those areas too.
<br> I don't know about making a new graphic; I don't want to step on the others' design ideas.
luciash: i see
chibaguy: I wonder what the thinking is about info.tw.o and tikiwiki.org -- some Strasa version?
luciash: i thought the idea was to be consistent for all tw.o sites, just the logo would change and maybe the theme option ?
chibaguy: yes, that's what we were thinking a while back.
<br> so it would be good to have the 'warm' option, and maybe something else too.
<br> but the options should be done completely, not with a mix.
<br> (For the Andreas09 color options, I made screenshots and changed the hue of the whole page in my graphics program, which is one way to get a good pallet, I think.
<br> all the parts change together so keep their relationships.
luciash: ah, yup, that'd be nice
chibaguy: I assumed jonny did something like that to get the mono option images.
LordVan: luciash, btw if there's some really important fix (security or major bug) in svn plz let me know as i'm not going to continuously svn up ;)
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LordVan: not on my live site :P
luciash: sure
LordVan: luciash, btw if u interested www.startrek.or.at is it ;)
<br> default language is german though
<br> ;)
<br> for my non english speaking friends over here :D
luciash: i'm interested but very busy ;)
LordVan: hehe sure jsut saying that is one 3.0 that is up'n running and public ;)
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: i think default strasa is much more appropriate for dev.tw.o - it's supposed to be a cool fancy developers site, not documentation conservative effort, right ? ;)
<br> <u>LordVan</u>: i have some too ;)
<br> <u>LordVan</u>: music band site
LordVan: :)
<br> luciash, what style of music?
chibaguy: luciash, actually I think any of the strasa versions would be fine for any of the project sites.
luciash: <u>LordVan</u>: www.menghao.cz
<br> bbl
<br> lunch here
LordVan: <u>question</u>: the main page I got still says English as language on the start page - of course i changed most of the content, but how can i change that? or is it best to jsut use'tranlsate' ?
<br> ah wait it is in the translation page
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LordVan: ;)
Beestje: bluh.... having a problem importing a csv file into a tracker... it generates the right amount of tracker items, but all the fields are empty ... (still version 2.2)
<br> and I don't like the idea of having to enter 600+ items manually :)
LordVan: hehe
Beestje: tried all kinds of formats for the csv file : "blabla","100","0031555447"
<br> with or without quotes semicolon instead of comma... nothing seems to work :/
LordVan: sorry no clue here i just started using tiki and only got 3.0 svn atm nto 2.2
<br> ;)
Beestje: I know, I read your posts a few days ago :)
LordVan: u mean irc
<br> i assume
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Beestje: yep :)
LordVan: hmm
<br> what would be the best way to get something listed ont he main page (which is a wiki page)
<br> using shoutbox?
<br> or is there somethign to list most recently changed wiki pages / blogs/.. ?
Beestje: On my homepage, I show the latest 3 articles and the latest blogpost using the wikiplugin_article and a self-written wikiplugin_blog
<br> you can include any module in wiki page to show the latest changes using the plugin module
LordVan: hmm
<br> so do i need to enable a seperate feature for that or how does that work?
ricks99: @LordVan: these are plugins. see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?Wiki+Plugins
LordVan: ok thanks
ricks99: yw
Beestje: aha ricks99, nice work on your plugins! Just found out about them yesterday, and they're already of great use to me! :)
ricks99: tx.which?
Beestje: i especially like the google calendar thing
<br> the JS-kit rating is also pretty cool!
ricks99: glad u find them useful
<br> js-kit and feedjit r 2 of my favorite 3-rd party services
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Beestje: went through the changelog to check for updates to tracker. only 1 item for trackerid fixed in 2.3.... updated to 2.4 and still the same problem when trying to import a tracker.
<br> i mean importing trackerdata
<br> from a csv :/
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Beestje: hmmm getting pretty annoyed over here ... followed everything in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Adding+items+to+a+tracker and still getting blanks as tracker items
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gornoth: Hello
<br> Is there a way to add a new feature to tikiwiki without modifying the current tikiwiki files? We would like to add a new feature but it's specific to our needs.
sylvieg: <u>amette</u>: doc/tw.org is very slow... nothing special?
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marclaporte: <u>gornoth</u>: yes of course, or you can build from trackers (depending on the feature)
<br> dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World
gornoth: ok thank you
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Beestje: I give up :(
luciash: <u>amette</u>: i agree, it's very slow, is the accelerator on ?
<br> <u>Beestje</u>: try with 3.0 please
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Beestje: trackers VS Beestje 1 - 0
<br> It's on a production environment that I'm trying to import tracker data
<br> So I'll have to stick with 2.x for now untill I've tested 3.0 (probably next week)
<br> I've wasted enough time for today :)
sylvieg: <u>Beestje</u>: do you have problem with a specific field
Beestje: nope, only have 3 fields, all of them text fields.
sylvieg: it should work
<br> did you put the first line corectly
Beestje: when importing csv data, I get new tracker items, but the fields are empty
<br> First line : "itemId","Naam -- 87","NR -- 89","Tel -- 90"
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sylvieg: check the first line of your csv the field names are perhaps incorrect
<br> and the name of your field is Naam...
Beestje: yep
<br> Naam, NR and Tel are the 3 fieldnames
<br> Followed everything from http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Adding+items+to+a+tracker
LordVan: cya later / 2morrow ppl
Beestje: <u>LordVan</u>: Cya!
sylvieg: try without itemId ... you do not want to repalce item - only add stuff?
Beestje: yep, only add stuff
<br> I'll give it another try :)
<br> Take 324
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ricks99: anyway to get tiki to automatically convert "&" into "&amp;" for text items (such as menus, titles,etc.)? my pages are failing validation with "&" (i.e., unknown entity type)
<br> (don't want to have t change everything to "and")
gornoth: About adding a new feature, in http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World#To_introduce_a_new_feature_or_a_new_preference, it says : "After you have to insert the check box into the features administration page. In templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl, you have to insert these lines" :
<br> Is there a dynamic way to do that?
Beestje: <u>sylvieg</u>: still no go :/
sylvieg: try to take away the --fieldId in the first line
Beestje: I already removed it
sylvieg: the fields exists in the tracker?
Beestje: first line : "Naam -- 87","NR -- 89","Tel -- 90"
<br> second line : "ABM OFFICE COLL","190","32335643"
sylvieg: try "Naam","NR","Tel"
<br> and check the fields are defined with those names in the tracker
chibaguy: gornoth, no, the files have to be edited by hand, afaik.
Beestje: just double checked, fields exist with those names and fieldId's are correct, removing fieldId's now
<br> aha!
sylvieg: are your fields multilingual?
Beestje: still nothing :)
<br> no fields are multilingual
<br> I mean none of the fields are multilingual
gornoth: ok thank you
Beestje: it's almost 5 'o clock in the evening and my hangover is still giving me a hard time :)
sylvieg: if the item is created but there is no value in the field - it is beause tw does not recognized the field
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Beestje: that's the odd thing, did an export first to use the first line so they are definitely correct.
<br> Fields : http://pastebin.com/m2f164e80
sylvieg: very strange - it should work - it is so simple..
Beestje: I know... it's probably the easiest tracker i've ever made.... and it doesn't work :)
SEWilco2: <u>ricks99</u>: I feel your "&" pain.
Beestje: also tried all kinds of things for the unicode - UTF8 format in both OO and UltraEdit
SEWilco2: <u>ricks99</u>: I really felt it when I named a homepage after the site, including the domain's dot. Poof went the site.
ricks99: agreed. would like to see an easier way to encode things properly
<br> (currently, i have to manually go in and change article titles,wiki names, etc.)
<br> :(
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Beestje: aaaarghh... lost most of my day trying to import this trackerdata :/ time for a change : quit working and go for BEER!
<br> :D
<br> thanks for the help!
<br> I wish you all a good weekend and I'll "see" you guys on monday ;)
<br> and women of course !
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ricks99: issue with latest 3.0 from svn when trying to assign a user-created module...
<br> now that the assign/edit modules is on a separate tab, the ASSIGN button does not work anymore :(
<br> EDIT button, too
sylvieg: perhaps you need to specify the tab not to be sent back to the current tab
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ricks99: y, but then the data (i.e., module to edit) doesn't get loaded :(
<br> beyond my (limited) skills
sylvieg: .. too many bugs in tw :-(
ricks99: i added it to the release30 page (quasi show stopper?)
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SEWilco2: Is tiki-admin_topics.php missing a permission-fetching call? $tiki_p_articles_admin_types is set to 'n' although menu detects it is set.
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: With great kitchen sink of features comes great buginess. :-)
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SEWilco2: Duh. $tiki_p_articles_admin_types should be _topics. I don't have a suitable 3.0 environment, should someone fix that?
<br> That's silly. The comment right above _types says it should be _topics. :P
<br> I guess that shows how few people admin Article topics without using admin or admin_cms.
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MacLeod: Hello! Anyone have an idea why, in a single v2.0 installation, some blogs might show (a) new icons, including the watch icon, and other blogs show (b) old icons, with no watch icon?
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ohertel: Hello! :)
<br> Something special happening? Tons of people watch the slideshows from the tikifests. ^^
<br> Already 22 GB of data within 8 hours ..
SEWilco2: <u>ohertel</u>: I haven't noticed mention of anything.
<br> Maybe Googlebot is downloading all the images for Google Images?
ohertel: Not googlebot.
<br> many different browsers from different IPs.
SEWilco2: Although I suppose we could reduce that if we emit only image thumbnails and mark link to fullsize as NOFOLLOW.
<br> No idea. Search for TikiFest or a URL. Maybe it was mentioned in a blog.
ohertel: 26,590 single gallery entry calls today.
<br> and still ongoing.
<br> I only noticed because I have setup a warning mail for traffic above 3GB/hour. ^^
SEWilco2: Maybe we inspired a snappy Fark headline.
ohertel: And getting this mail 8 times now, since about noon. ^^
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sylvieg: hi ohertel
<br> xavi too complained about atacks
fantoms: I would like to discuss the ceremony for joining the community, could an admin please contact me?
ohertel: hello sylvieg. :)
<br> Ah okay. hm... I could just compile in the mod_band again and limit bandwidth per user as I had on the old machine. ^^
SEWilco2: Thumbtacks? And make up your mind. "A tack" or "tacks"?
sylvieg: on edu but it was in the forum
ohertel: tw.o forum?
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sylvieg: yeh
SEWilco2: I'm also looking at Apache bandwidth control, to slow spam bot visit effects. Apache2 doesn't seem to have precompiled mods for it.
ohertel: I am bad at ceremonies. ^^
<br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: That mod_band worked quite well only didnt have time to compile it in again, yet. :)
sylvieg: <u>fantoms</u>: what do you want to do in tw?
ohertel: <u>SEWilco2</u>: Ah, mod_cband it is called. ;)
fantoms: i would like to contribute officially
ohertel: <u>SEWilco2</u>: And I just found out I have it in, only not again configured yet. :)
SEWilco2: <u>sylvieg</u>: fantoms wants SVN access. He's my code minion, so he's already in some copyright notices.
sylvieg: ah you know him
<br> I am bad at ceremony - but I can update sf
<br> what is your sourceforge name?
fantoms: fantoms
ohertel: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules
<br> :->
sylvieg: ok fantoms you are in sf
fantoms: thank you sylvieg
sylvieg: <u>fantoms</u>: so please read the 3rules ohertel cited
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sylvieg: and I suppose SEWilco2 wil explain the rest
fantoms: i've been integrated fully by SEWilco2
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SEWilco2: <u>sylvieg</u>: Yup, I told him how to find the ceremony despite search results.
Guest98173: Hello, I have a question about deleting images from Wiki pages
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SEWilco2: <u>fantoms</u>: No, I haven't touched you with any rouge so the "fully" is weak.
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: And he's read 3Rules. etc. We cross-contaminate code already.
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SEWilco2: 3.0 question: OK to fix the tiki-admin_topics.php bug which uses wrong perm instead of $tiki_p_articles_admin_topics ?
<br> I know there is a 3.0 freeze. OK to fix that permission bug, so tiki_p_articles_admin_topics will actually work?
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sylvieg: <u>SEWilco2</u>: yes commit thank you
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03fantoms * r18329 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_topics.php: [fix] bug which uses wrong perm instead of $tiki_p_articles_admin_topics
sylvieg: :-Dfor fantoms
fantoms: ;)
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Ryan2: Hello
ohertel: <u>fantoms</u>: w00t! ^^
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Guest82836: I need to remove an image that I uploaded to a Wiki page and I cannot figure out how to do it. I assume this should be a simple task but I cannot find any info searching through the TikIWiki website.
SEWilco2: <u>Guest82836</u>: Did you upload it to a Gallery, or as an attachment to a Wiki page?
Guest82836: Attachment to a Wiki page
SEWilco2: <u>Guest82836</u>: I haven't tinkered with attachments, but I suspect there is a tab at top or bottom of the Wiki page for accessing the attachments.
Guest82836: I don't see anything like that. I see edit, lock, perms, history, wikihelp
<br> When I upload an image to a Wiki page, should I also see it in the image galleries somewhere?
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ohertel: <u>Guest82836</u>: No, it is going to the wiki_up/ folder only.
Guest82836: I guess I could delete it straight from the filesystem, but that's trickier to get access to.
ohertel: Oh this sucks. mod_cband is buggy, not in development anymore and not working with the most current apache versions. tss.
SEWilco2: <u>Guest82836</u>: Try Google for: wiki attachment delete site:tikiwiki.org
<br> <u>Guest82836</u>: I didn't try that search but it be more targeted than whatever you were trying to search with.
<br> <u>Guest83836</u>: If nothing else, you could copy/paste the Wiki contents to another page and delete this page. I HOPE that will delete the attachment.
Guest82836: I guess there's no one-click solution for this, then? Well, thanks for the suggestions. Take it easy.
<br> how do I disconnect from this IRC
SEWilco2: <u>Guest83836</u>: Maybe /quit
Guest82836: quit
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18330 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French translation
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18331 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: One shot of get_string to add new text
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18332 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]menu: option to {menu} for tiki menu menu_cookie=n to desactive the memo of open sections: automatically close all the menu sections + open all the sections the current url is and its sub-sections
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sylvieg: do we have css menu that looks like a tiki menu ( with the folding stuff) ?
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ohertel: Ok, I disabled file and image galleries on tw.o for now... as soon as I switch it on, I see tons of requests to that...
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SEWilco2: <u>sylvieg</u>: Clarify what "folding" means when talking about a menu. Or just define menus of all types and see how they behave.
<br> <u>ohertel</u>: You say many kinds of browsers are viewing images. Is some quite obscure browser also very active?
ohertel: yup, it's 5 or 6 that have VERY many requests.
SEWilco2: <u>ohertel</u>: If a spambot is involved, I'd expect an obscure browser to have a much higher percentage than usual.
<br> I wish there were a TCP tarpit that could suck on their resources without using more than a trickle of your server.
ohertel: I wish mod_cband would still work.
<br> Had a look at squid right now, but it seems to be complete crap. Only sendmail configuration is worse.
<br> 64.142.74.120 is one of the attackers.
luciash: hey ohertel !
<br> can you svn up tw.o ?
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ohertel: hello luci.
<br> I did like 2 hours ago. need again?
luciash: heheh, nope, it's great :)
<br> i just haven't sen you for long time here so i throwed it on you when i spotted you now ;)
<br> *seen
ohertel: Do you see lots of requests on your sites, too?
luciash: nope
<br> i don't have such big traffic sites
ohertel: Someone loading the slideshow all over... for 12 hours now, from different clients.
luciash: i think it must be the page
ohertel: 23:00-00:00 trafic: 5042 MB
luciash: wow
<br> http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes3.0
<br> http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes3.0+beta4
ohertel: dont work
luciash: yep :-( it should give some better 404
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luciash: which page gives the slideshow overload ?
ohertel: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=16&slideshow
<br> someone having that in a browser open, probably.
<br> Are the slideshows looping? Then we should switch off looping completely.
luciash: yep, it's because someone calls it from doc.tw.o :-/
<br> i agree
ohertel: hm?
luciash: from http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki+3.0
ohertel: I blocked the two IP adresses I saw and now no further request to that page.
luciash: isn't it caused by http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki+3.0#File_Gallery_diaporama ?
ohertel: whatever it is, it sucks.
<br> I dont want to have 5000MB traffic per hour only because some people forget to close their browser windows.
luciash: i agree
ohertel: Maybe disable slideshows and add an arrow you have to click to enable the shows.
luciash: i have the page open now, does it happen from my IP now again ?
ohertel: I see you, yes.
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luciash: so it must be one of those slideshows to be fixed
ohertel: yup
<br> better close it or I ban your ip too. .P
luciash: *g*
marclaporte: <u>ohertel</u>: : hi!
<br> do you think tikiwiki.org can be upgraded to 3.0 soon?
ohertel: marc, did you know the slideshows suck? :P
luciash: ok, so the file gallery slideshow have this bug
marclaporte: it's now optional
ohertel: last hour I had 5000MB traffic because of the darn slideshows.
luciash: we need to fix it asap
ohertel: And since 12pm I had about 4000MB traffic... each hour.
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: it's already upgraded as ohertel said
marclaporte: yay!
ohertel: optional?
<br> If I cant switch that off I will just block access to that file...
<br> 35983 requests to gallery images so far... since noon.
<br> any of you still there? ,)
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marclaporte: still says 2.4 here http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=general
ohertel: ah you mean tw.o up to 3.0? didnt yet.
<br> how do I switch to a new branch? :)
<br> its on 2.x currently.
marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/download#switch_to_branches_3.0
<br> in 3.o, you can switch off file gallery slideshow
ohertel: hm, that page is not loading.
<br> dev.tw.o borked?
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marclaporte: <u>amette</u>: : ping
ohertel: Is there not 2.0 to 3.0 sql update script?
<br> not -> no
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: did that, now svn update just hangs. :-(
SEWilco2: That's odd. Looking at the XMLRPC page on doc.tw.o, I logged in... and got an XMLRPC error 2. I triggered the XMLRPC server?
ohertel: It's borked right now because I do an update to 3.0
<br> Wait some minutes.
<br> update on tw.o I mean. And doc.tw.o tries to access the tw.o database via xmlrpc. ,)
marclaporte: you may have to destory dirs like templates_c and maps
ohertel: haha... Fetching external item into 'lib/jquery/jquery-ui/docs'
<br> <u>svn</u>: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/tags/1.7/docs'
<br> <u>svn</u>: PROPFIND of '/svn/tags/1.7/docs': 502 Bad Gateway (http://jquery-ui.googlecode.com)
marclaporte: to let svn replace with new
ohertel: I did a clean checkout. and it is borked.
<br> Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'lib/core/lib/Zend/Filter/Interface.php' (include_path='/var/www/tikiwiki.org/lib/pear:.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear:/var/www/tikiwiki.org/lib/core/lib') in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/lib/core/lib/DeclFilter.php on line 3
<br> stuff missing
<br> Ok, got it.
<br> Does 3.0 need a database update?
<br> ah yes, now there is a file for it. ,)
marclaporte: <u>ohertel</u>: : do via tiki-install.php
<br> it's much more advanced now
ohertel: Yah, I see. ;)
marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/DatabaseSchemaUpgrade
<br> dev is back: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/download#switch_to_branches_3.0
ohertel: yes, and tw.o too. :)
<br> and on 3.0 now.
<br> only it looks like the layout is messed up yet.
<br> <u>marc</u>: does it look well to you now? ^^
marclaporte: I've seen worse
<br> switching to strasa for a test
<br> woah
<br> that's broken
<br> back to thenews
luciash: clear all caches
ohertel: I did a fresh reinstall, there are no caches. :)
luciash: i give up with the slideshows... didn't find a way how to stop them looping
ohertel: ok, cleaned caches, just in case. :P
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marclaporte: USERCOUNT! registered users and WARNING: Plugin disabled USERCOUNT!Developers developers at this site.
ohertel: hm?
marclaporte: many plugins will need to be activated
<br> that's ok
<br> "normal"
luciash: where's link to the plugin approval admin page ?
ohertel: then do so. ;)
marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: : nowhere , can you add?
luciash: ah
ohertel: I have no idea of the new features. ^^
marclaporte: got oto
<br> to go
<br> you guys are the best
<br> and 3.0 rocks
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: do you remember ?
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: the php filename to url for plugin approval
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luciash: ah, i got it, tiki-plugins.php
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mib_ylmsyd: Hey everyone. I'm having a problem importing some information into my tikiwiki databases. I entered all the information for tiki_categories, tiki_categorized_objects, tiki_category_objects, tiki_objects, and tiki_pages and believe I have done so correctly.
<br> I have done this once before except I don't believe I changed the database for tiki_categories then, but added them manually. The problem I'm having now is the pages are in, I can see them in the main category
<br> but they do not show in the sub categories (the sub categories don't show in fact) and I can no longer access tiki-admin_categories.php
<br> I should note in fact that the pages show correctly in the top category, and the first sub-category. It is a 3rd level category that I was adding which do not show up at all. Any ideas?
luciash: tiki_p_view_categories permission ?
<br> if you have set perms on the category you have to set them all
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mib_ylmsyd: the new categories don't show. The global permissions are set correctly
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