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donri	http://themes.tikiwiki.org/ 403?	[00:00]
marclaporte	yes	[00:05]
	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process#Blockers help needed	[00:11]
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Zylogue	Hello. I've got a problem with my tiki site and I don't know how to explain it. http://www.l4smb.net/tiki-list_articles.php works correctly when authenticated, but when not authenticated, ther eis a lot of 'stuff' on the page. Does anyone have any suggestions?	[08:12]
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chibaguy	Zylogue: I see a database error at your site. Looks like the site wasn't upgraded completely/correctly.	[08:27]
Zylogue	chibaguy, thanks	[08:28]
chibaguy	what tiki version?	[08:29]
Zylogue	I will look into that. It is hosted, so I will look into it. v2.2	[08:29]
chibaguy	You can see the article correctly when logged in?	[08:31]
Zylogue	yes	[08:31]
chibaguy	I mean tiki-list_articles.php. That works ok when logged in? Sorry, I've got to go now; will be back later.	[08:32]
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Zylogue	ok	[08:35]
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nyloth	Hi all :)	[08:47]
Zylogue	nyloth: hello	[08:49]
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Zylogue	what data format are exports? ?	[09:04]
chibaguy	what exports do you mean?	[09:09]
luciash	polomorning	[09:10]
chibaguy	polomevening, luciash	[09:10]
luciash	heheh, hi gary :)	[09:11]
caralluna	Zylogue: Do you mean CSV? btw, hi ppl :-)	[09:12]
nyloth	hi luci, hi chibaguy chibaguy: any news about your visa ? :)	[09:13]
luciash	heya nyloth and all :)	[09:14]
chibaguy	nyloth, we're working on the documents for that. No news yet.	[09:14]
nyloth	ok	[09:14]
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xavi	toctoc (<- localization of "polom" in my language ;-) ) Zylogue still around?	[09:39]
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luciash	xavi: cotcot :)	[09:58]
xavi	toctoc-morning, luciash :-) xavi is just reviewing a nice syntaxhighlighter in javascript and LGPL'd!	[09:59]
chibaguy	For the layout.css file that will be imported by theme stylesheets, I was thinking about having two versions in styles/layout/ .... One would be commented (layout_commented.css) and not used, but just for dev and reference...	[10:00]
luciash	xavi: yup, that one is great :)	[10:01]
chibaguy	The actual layout.css would be just the selectors and properties being used, and optimized somewhat.	[10:01]
xavi	xavi says for the curious (if any :-): http://www.norith.com/ (in the website one of the guys helping Nelson and learning Tiki), and homepagfe of the syntaxhighter: http://alexgorbatchev.com/wiki/SyntaxHighlighter	[10:01]
chibaguy	The files woujld be maybe 32KB and 20KB or so. So a significant size reduction for the production file.	[10:01]
luciash	chibaguy: i'd prefer only one and remove comments at the time of release by a script	[10:02]
chibaguy	Ah, ok, and keep layout_commented.css for reference on line someplace.	[10:02]
luciash	but it should be aware of any "comments" hacks of course yup, in SVN it would stay commented	[10:02]
chibaguy	Yeah, I tried a few 'css optimizer' sites and various kinds/levels of optimization. just out of curiousity.	[10:03]
caralluna	caralluna is curious ;-)	[10:03]
chibaguy	Well, I don't know how the script would be run at release time (that's outside my scope). I used an approach that I could handle. ;-)	[10:04]
luciash	by the release script	[10:04]
chibaguy	ok, as long as the hacks are preserved, for sure. There are "* hmtl " for ie6 and that other hard to remember one for ie7...	[10:05]
luciash	yup, this one will be preserved for sure as it is not css comment	[10:06]
xavi	caralluna: current syntax highlighter in tiki, afaik, is not lgpl, and thus, it has be installed spearatedly (many people don't know about it), and thus, the CODE plugin doesn't highlight or colorize syntaxes... I thought for many years that that was a bug	[10:06]
caralluna	hehe	[10:06]
luciash	xavi: though, i meant something else, it was source code editor + highlighterincluded, nevermind :)	[10:07]
xavi	:-)	[10:07]
chibaguy	The 20KB version I got with the online optimizer eliminated multiple selectors when they had the same property, removed comments, but left line breaks at the end of each { } ... so it was still pretty readable.	[10:07]
luciash	xavi: oh, i thought it colorizes php only	[10:07]
caralluna	xavi: I really want a syntax highlighter ... I think getting that to work is my only showstopper left before I throw out Mediawiki ;-)	[10:08]
xavi	luciash: if you install an dextra package, it colorizes many other syntaxes example...	[10:08]
luciash	xavi: i know, but without geshi it should work with php syntax iirc	[10:08]
xavi	xavi looking for a syntax highlighter or "R" statistical language within a tiki site using code plugin... yes, geshi is the name. Without it, only php is highlighted	[10:09]
chibaguy	luciash, who can modify the release script to do the optimizing of layout/layout.css? Can you do that?	[10:10]
caralluna	caralluna is using geshi on his current mediawiki	[10:10]
xavi	example of geshi usage within tiki: http://www.ub.edu/optics/tiki/conversor (even if not the best example, since geshi doesn't recognize "R" natively; using "python" highlighter instead, and only a few coincidences...9 btw: that site is using a slightly customized eatlon, with white background , chibaguy (FYI) and the reflection on the bottom had to be custommized (quick and dirty customization for me, but it worked for me) s/customization for me/customization by me	[10:11]
nyloth	for info, we activated geshi for tiki at my work	[10:13]
xavi	:-)	[10:13]
nyloth	it's quite out-of-the-box with tiki :)	[10:13]
xavi	yeah	[10:13]
luciash	chibaguy: i think i could try but nyloth did really good job improving the release scripts recently :) lunch time here, bbl everybody	[10:14]
nyloth	luciash: did you try new release script version ? :) luciash: ok, see you later chibaguy: I suppose it's not for 3.0 btw, right ?	[10:15]
chibaguy	ok. the theme stylesheets will be pretty trimmed down (no more empty selectors, or comments, anyway) but layout.css is pretty verbose, so especially could benefit from optimization. (btw, only tikinewt.css in branch 3 is importing layout.css; I don't want to risk problems with the other themes this close to release time.)	[10:17]
nyloth	chibaguy: personnaly, I would prefer to let Tiki optimize CSS dynamicaly itself when loading CSS the first time (through php). I don't like to do this through the release scripts, since we will not test the result since we use directly svn	[10:20]
chibaguy	I see. that's true.	[10:21]
nyloth	chibaguy: You may reduce other themes (by importing layout.css) by proposing your changes to the Quality Team, as soon as 3.0 is released chibaguy: so they may go in 3.1	[10:22]
chibaguy	yes, that would be good.	[10:22]
nyloth	I just have to create the svn branch that will be used to propose commits to the quality team for minor versions of stable branches We didn't found a name for this branch yet. Any preference ? If not, I may call it "patches" or "backports" or "stable-proposal" or something in this spirit	[10:24]
xavi	backports sounds intuitive	[10:25]
chibaguy	"proposed"?	[10:25]
nyloth	yes, why not :)	[10:25]
xavi	proposed also (proposed to the "quality team")	[10:25]
chibaguy	as long as the meaning is clear	[10:26]
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axold	hi guys, I have a problem with the branch workspaces :S any help?	[10:37]
xavi	hi axold; sorry I guess I'm not skilled enough... But just throw your question some other people may answer (now or later)	[10:38]
donri	http://themes.tikiwiki.org/ = 403	[10:39]
axold	thx xavi ;)	[10:39]
xavi	xavi tried trunk yesterdday and it didn't work for him (blank pages)	[10:39]
axold	well the main problem is when you grab the code of the svn server you get blank pages when you go to tiki-index.php (the installer works well) I thought that it was conflicts or something like that, so I did a reverse merge to a previous working version	[10:39]
xavi	same for me o tiki_trunk s/o/on	[10:40]
axold	but nothing, also i tried to debug you too?	[10:41]
xavi	ok, now I trough my question/help request: MultiTiki in subdirectories (as explained in MultiTiki Akira) works fine for Tiki 1.9.x and Tiki 2.x for me, but not for tiki 3.x sites :-/	[10:42]
axold	I don't know why, because I spent all the day yesterday in solve the problem	[10:42]
xavi	and some other people complained about similar issues in tw.o forums. I?m reproducing it right now, so in a couple of minutes I?ll see the error shown in the screen, in case any "php guru" knows how to solve it :-)	[10:42]
axold	xavi copy your error here maybe I can help you	[10:43]
xavi	xavi is going to reproduce on the server the problem	[10:43]
axold	in my case the php doesn't throw anything !help	[10:43]
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chibaguy	donri, there is a server problem at themes.tw.o. the site will be moved and upgraded soon, I believe.	[10:49]
xavi	well, first problem: http://server/site1/tiki-install.php doesn't seem to work (probably, too many db usernames and pass ?) I'll add here (in short) an url of the customzied local.php for multitiki in subdirs (multitiki Akira)	[10:50]
donri	chibaguy, ok, thanks	[10:50]
xavi	that is that customized local.php: http://pastebin.com/d6e341786 axold ^ that is the first problem, if attempting to use tiki-install.php script	[10:52]
axold	mmm	[10:53]
xavi	for multitiki in subdirectories the second problem comes later....	[10:53]
axold	but can you run the tiki-install? or throws any error you cannot continue	[10:53]
xavi	yes, I see the screen to log in, but I can't log in no error, just no username and pass recognized to keep going	[10:54]
axold	mmm	[10:54]
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axold	did you see the queries executed when you attempt to install into the database? I mean in the installation process you see the queries successful executed now there are 4 that in my case	[10:54]
xavi	axold: the frist problem isthat tiki-install.php doesn't go deeper than this screen: http://moviments.net/ilp/tiki-install.php probably because there is more than one username and pass here: http://pastebin.com/d6e341786	[10:55]
axold	xavi ^ i copy this url xavi: let me see	[10:56]
xavi	and the second problem was about the "extractTopPath" function, as far as I remember, from the local.php shown before	[10:57]
axold	have you write the correct host? I mean here $host_tiki='localhost'; maybe your isp give you another than localhost	[10:58]
xavi	:-), no, no, that's fine well, one mistake, I was missing ?> at the end of local.php fixing... ok, got it, the second problem: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare extracttoppath() (previously declared in /home/httpd/tiki30svn/db/local.php:27) in /home/httpd/tiki30svn/db/local.php on line 30 ok, so skip my report of a first problem: false error report (I was missing the ?> at the end of the script: fixed) and line 30 says: return substr( $in, 0, $point + 2 ); from here: http://pastebin.com/d617963e8 so the problem seems to be at the "estractTopPath function	[10:59]
axold	this error is because extracttopath was created before in the script it points the local.php so in the 28 line	[11:02]
xavi	to clarify: this is the type of installation needed to have (multi)tikis like this: http://yourhost/site1/tiki-index.php , http://yourhost/site2/tiki-index.php , ...	[11:03]
axold	you don't need to declare again the extracttopath function go to db/local.php line 27 and check if the function is declare there	[11:03]
xavi	axold, have you seen the file local.php here?: http://pastebin.com/d617963e8	[11:04]
axold	oh no, sorry ah it's the same http://pastebin.com/m7e604c6c try with this	[11:04]
xavi	trying	[11:08]
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xavi	oh well, :-) same error on anotehr line: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare extracttoppath() (previously declared in /home/httpd/tiki30svn/db/local.php:6) in /home/httpd/tiki30svn/db/local.php on line 9 well, I need to leave. Btw, I've found out that this error was also happening in tiki2.1 : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2139 bbl (in some hours) cheers	[11:10]
axold	ok try with this http://pastebin.com/m732e2198 but anyway i don't know why is happening this sorry :S	[11:11]
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luciash	xavi: ?> is not mandatory in PHP	[11:24]
nyloth	php closing tags ?> should be never used at the end of a php file (it's a bad practice to use them)	[11:25]
gezza	@marclaporte: about getting access to commit translation updates: my sourceforge username is "gezzzan", my username at tikiwiki.org is "gezza" thanks in advance	[11:30]
luciash	gezza: r u doing them for upcoming 3.0 ?	[11:34]
gezza	yes	[11:35]
luciash	luciash begins the ceremony then ;)	[11:35]
gezza	i would like to commit before it comes out	[11:35]
luciash	gezza: 1st question is if you understand and accept the 3Rules	[11:36]
gezza	hehe, ok yes, no problem	[11:36]
luciash	great second step you already answered (your sf.net and tw.o name) ;)	[11:36]
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luciash	luciash added gezzzan to the TikiWiki project developers on sf.net fsck, some script is very unresponsive on sf.net :-/	[11:42]
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luciash	gezza: sorry, you have to wait i have to use another browser to finish adding you	[11:47]
	gezza: do you want to be listed as developer (contributor) or translator only ?	[11:52]
gezza	just translator for now :)	[11:52]
luciash	ok, done :) 3rd step: welcome to the TikiWiki community !	[11:53]
gezza	thanks :)	[11:53]
luciash	luciash cheers gezza and takes the ceremony hat off	[11:54]
chibaguy	chibaguy claps and whistles	[11:55]
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luciash	gezza: please commit the language.php to barnches/3.0 asap and test before commiting just to be sure the file doesn't break tiki	[11:58]
gezza	yeap, I am testing locally	[12:00]
luciash	luciash enabled plugin gauge at tw.o	[12:00]
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luciash	chibaguy: any idea if the release is postponed or not in the end ? luciash added gezza to TwCommunity group at tw.o	[12:04]
chibaguy	I don't know, luciash	[12:06]
luciash	i hope nelson gets in shape well soon but it shouldn't be a problem to make the release by someone else using the scripts	[12:09]
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chibaguy	lucash, what do you think about this article style for Strasa: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-view_articles.php (and change theme to strasa)? (instead of just a line to separate articles. Is this too 'heavy'? Same style as used in forums and blogs.)	[12:17]
luciash	luciash goes to zk.c chibaguy: it looks pretty good but needs to be tested in articles plugin chibaguy: can i add it to the homepage ? err, you :)	[12:19]
chibaguy	ok	[12:22]
luciash	this sucks me lot :-/ → http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-print_article.php?articleId=1 it's totally not respecting the article settings (same in article preview) also marc will complain about the padding again ;) see the print icon at http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-print_article.php?articleId=1	[12:24]
chibaguy	ok, added here: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/HomePage	[12:26]
luciash	looks good so far in the article plugin but i guess we need to clone that article to have at least two or three listed there	[12:27]
chibaguy	chibaguy has insufficient test site... ;-)	[12:27]
luciash	luciash is testing in Opera nad FF off-topic: i wonder why in opera the sanserif option of thenews still displays serif font in my opera chibaguy: can you duplicate that article ?	[12:28]
chibaguy	http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-view_articles.php has two articles now. also home page via plugin	[12:31]
luciash	great !	[12:31]
chibaguy	yeah, I was wondering about that "serif sanserif" in opera also.	[12:31]
luciash	looks cool to me, i don't mind the heaviness of the titles uh, some broken images there too: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-print_blog_post.php?postId=1	[12:31]
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chibaguy	ah, actually I just copied/pasted the "tip" text for that dummy text, and it contained "<img>"... ...just removed the brackets. I'll test in the IE's pretty soon.	[12:35]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18350 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French Translation	[12:35]
nyloth	luciash: I proposed to take care of releases, so I suppose the release is not postponed luciash: maybe someone else will make the release and I just give help if needed, but I'm around depending on what will be decided at tikifest	[12:37]
luciash	nyloth: great	[12:39]
nyloth	but with the last version of release scripts, anyone should be able to release extremely easily :)	[12:39]
luciash	yup yup, that was my thought	[12:39]
nyloth	:) so... bbl	[12:39]
chibaguy	yes, the strasa print article needs help.	[12:40]
luciash	chibaguy: can you commit latest strasa fixes ?	[12:44]
chibaguy	ok	[12:46]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18351 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Better separation between articles, etc.	[12:51]
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luciash	chibaguy: thx	[12:58]
chibaguy	I wonder why FF adds scrollbar at the right side of the post title in strasa (was just checking the new forum post link ^^ ). ...and why the author info has a little border and is detached from the title.	[13:05]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18352 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/pics/icons/ (folder.png ofolder.png): [FIX] Strasa theme: menu arrows transparent now to display nicely in right column menus too	[13:10]
luciash	chibaguy: i bet it's the CSS ;)	[13:11]
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SEWilco2	The usual reason for odd website appearance and behavior: "It's ART!", screamed by a fellow in a beret.	[13:47]
chibaguy	heh, I feel like the manufacturer who says the product was fine when it left the factory, something must have happened in shipping.	[13:50]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18353 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Strasa theme: polishing graphics + some adjustments to article titleb and action icons padding	[13:58]
chibaguy	strasa/login.jpg has a 1px #d7e5f3 border on its left and bottom sides at the tw.o forum (background of author information in forum posts), and it doesn't have that border at my test site, etc. and I don't see where it's getting it from. that color isn't set anywhere in strasa.css... and it's not in the jpg itself.	[14:02]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18354 10/branches/3.0/styles/transitions/1.9to2.2.css: [FIX] Avoid scrollbar on post titles.	[14:18]
luciash	chibaguy: check .author_info	[14:19]
chibaguy	yeah, I just found the colors in 1.9-2.0 transition css.	[14:22]
luciash	cool	[14:22]
chibaguy	I checked with transitions turned on but apparently not in all features. damn, transitions css is irritating to me. especially when it does styling like colors and padding, etc.	[14:22]
luciash	in transitions shouldn't be any colors specified when not special as highlighting diffs	[14:23]
chibaguy	without knowledge of what the theme looks like.	[14:23]
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chibaguy	I think so too, but some major additions like the newer forums layout has default colors, I guess for older themes that had no css for this layout.	[14:24]
slordjette	Hello TikiLand!	[14:24]
luciash	chibaguy: in Web Developer extension it is great that you can switch off individual stylesheet temporarily and you see the change on the fly on page heya sébastien	[14:25]
chibaguy	slordjette, hi, how are you?	[14:25]
luciash	chibaguy: Tools > Web Developer > CSS > Disable styles > Individual stylesheet >	[14:26]
chibaguy	ok thanks. ah, looks quite a bit better without transitions ;-)	[14:26]
luciash	anyone else than ohertel can svn up tw.o ? heheh	[14:28]
chibaguy	I need to add overrides to strasa.css, or remove color etc from transitions	[14:28]
luciash	+1 for removing the colors and unwanted margins from transitions they should be paddings instead imho	[14:29]
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luciash	gotta go now, bbl	[14:34]
chibaguy	ok, cya	[14:35]
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slordjette	I'm fine. Just logged in to show support to Tiki people involved in the CodeFest in Montréal. Is there a Twitter channel to follow ? A live cam ? ustream.tv ?	[14:46]
chibaguy	slordjette, there's info at http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiFestCodeFest3	[14:55]
marclaporte	yo	[14:55]
chibaguy	I don't see anything about live streaming yet.	[14:55]
nyloth	hi marclaporte :)	[14:56]
marclaporte	it's a little hectic here codefest is not just TikiFest I put more important things in red: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process I am especially concerned with CODE/FLASH/ quicktags in blogs & trackers this one: # wikihelp/plugin help works great for wiki pages but * In blogs, the form appears, but the page refreshes if you click "submit query" * In tracker plugin within a wiki page, the form doesn't appear. I think I will make edit plugin experimental because there are still too many quircks	[15:00]
nyloth	As you wish. It will probably be fixed only for 3.1. We can move it outside experimental for 3.1 about "Several admin panels tiki-admin.php?page=xyz are displaying incorrect feedback about which features are turned on/off"...	[15:06]
chibaguy	"Blog layout is broken" apparently due to the transitions stylesheet being used at tw.o (or other sites with blog layout problems).	[15:07]
nyloth	... I used to fix most of this problems (if not all) during tikifestUK ... is there still some problems for some pannels ?	[15:07]
marclaporte	yes, according to my tests from after your fixes	[15:07]
chibaguy	It's interesting to choose each of the transitions css choices in Look and Feel and watch the site's appearance change.	[15:07]
nyloth	marclaporte: ok, I wonder why I didn't saw them... but I used to test all panels	[15:08]
chibaguy	I wonder how many (if any) site admins actually know what those choices mean, or how to make the right choice.	[15:08]
nyloth	but this can wait 3.1, it's not so "blocking" (imo)	[15:08]
chibaguy	chibaguy doesn't know the logic, if there is one.	[15:08]
marclaporte	nyloth: it should be easy to fix and avoid support requests	[15:09]
nyloth	chibaguy: transition styles should be removed now, since your work on layout	[15:09]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18355 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/tikilib.php pics/icons/page_edit_section.png): [FIX] distinguish whole page edit icon from section edit icon	[15:10]
nyloth	marclaporte: yes, if someone is available to fix before tomorrow for those fixes	[15:10]
marclaporte	+1 to distinguish whole page edit icon from section edit icon	[15:10]
nyloth	marclaporte: there is more important things from my point of view ;)	[15:10]
marclaporte	What are your top-3?	[15:11]
chibaguy	nyloth, ok, I will aim for 3.1 for moving selectors from transition to layout.css.	[15:11]
nyloth	marclaporte: XSS vulnerability that was only fixed for 2.x, for example chibaguy: :)	[15:11]
marclaporte	hehe +1 for that Is it an easy merge?	[15:11]
nyloth	marclaporte: yes, I think so. If nobody is working on it until tomorrow, I may fix it then	[15:12]
marclaporte	I think you are best to do since you did on 2.x, no?	[15:13]
nyloth	marclaporte: and forums still have some very annoying bugs marclaporte: I made a very quick & dirty fix for 2.x because nobody did something after some days. But I didn't do this in 3.x because it was not a nice solution. But I may have to use the same trick for 3.x since we don't have a lot of time for a better solution for 3.0 ... maybe will we do better for 3.1	[15:13]
marclaporte	ok, I see	[15:15]
nyloth	marclaporte: about forums, our last tests showed that replies to posts in a forum (not flat forum, but when threaded) were not displayed in some (all ?) cases marclaporte: and massive deletion of topics is broken	[15:16]
marclaporte	back to topic before: we can make edit plugin experimental. But adding plugins from quicktags shouldn't wait for 3.1	[15:16]
nyloth	so... those points are more anoying me you know :)	[15:16]
marclaporte	:-)	[15:18]
nyloth	marclaporte: so... what's the plan for today's release (RC1) ? :)	[15:19]
marclaporte	I hope so it's very difficult because we have too few resources	[15:19]
nyloth	you want to fix blockers before RC1 or before the final release ?	[15:20]
marclaporte	Since release scritp has changed, I guess it's good to run it	[15:21]
nyloth	Yup. I would have done an RC1 asap today, with a page that details known problems, and a final release tomorrow	[15:21]
marclaporte	ok super!	[15:22]
nyloth	do you have someone that want to make the release, or maybe someone here (luci, sylvie,...) ? If not I'll do, no problem, but it's better to have more people able to do this	[15:23]
marclaporte	I have no one here maybe later, some will show up	[15:23]
nyloth	marclaporte: do you have one hour free right now ? :)	[15:24]
marclaporte	I will take it we give it a try? Beta5 or RC1 now?	[15:24]
nyloth	marclaporte: Yes, RC1 :) do you have a linux PC ?	[15:25]
marclaporte	I have an XO	[15:25]
nyloth	XO ? :)	[15:25]
marclaporte	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1	[15:26]
nyloth	with php, mysql and subversion ?	[15:26]
marclaporte	I will find a space on a server	[15:27]
nyloth	ok let me know when you have your space + a shell first step: you have to get an svn checkout of tiki branches/3.0	[15:27]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18356 10/branches/3.0/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] More selectors added.	[15:29]
marclaporte	nyloth: : http://release.ourwiki.net I am ready I will document here? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release	[15:37]
nyloth	marclaporte: OK . Note that you need to work on a checkout that is not a real installation of tiki	[15:39]
marclaporte	understood	[15:39]
nyloth	marclaporte: document what you feel important to document. For me it's enough documented in the script ;p is your checkout ready ? If yes, go inside (cd your/checkout/directory/) then first try "php doc/devtools/release.php" it should display the basic help for the release script	[15:39]
marclaporte	marclaporte is thinking I should do checkout in subdir to make sur evething is clean svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/3.0	[15:41]
nyloth	yes, or with the destination directory name, like : svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/3.0 my_directory	[15:42]
marclaporte	in progress...	[15:43]
nyloth	ok	[15:43]
marclaporte	hey Nyloth thank you :-)	[15:43]
nyloth	you're welcome :) marclaporte: feel free to also send a mail to the list to ask people to stop commits on branches/3.0 until RC1 is ready. As you wish.	[15:43]
marclaporte	ok, after I succeed once	[15:47]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18357 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold.css: [FIX] Catching up with corresponding changes in strasa.css.	[15:47]
marclaporte	I don't want to slow people down until we are sure it works go go Gary!	[15:47]
nyloth	ok, no problem :)	[15:47]
chibaguy	heh	[15:47]
marclaporte	ok, help works	[15:51]
nyloth	ok you can now read the howto by using --howto option as you should see, first step is "Preliminary manual tasks" I propose to skip the "Test the whole Installer and check if everything is OK" (first point), since it should be ok now same for second point: "run doc/devtools/securitycheck.php and check each "potentially unsafe" file." (at least for the RC) so, next point is : cd db/convertscripts and run convertsqls.sh you can do this (next version of release script will include this, I just did not have the time... it will probably be for 3.1 :) )	[15:51]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03gezzzan * r18358 10/branches/3.0/lang/hu/language.php: latest HUN translation tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18359 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] A little more padding in .tabcontent.	[15:56]
nyloth	marclaporte: everything's ok ? :)	[16:01]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18360 10/branches/3.0/pics/icons/shape_square_edit.png: [FIX] better icon for plugin edit	[16:03]
chibaguy	Uh, in strasa, the folder icon in the files table on tiki-list_file_gallery.php is the blue triangle image that strasa uses in the menu, not the actual "folder-looking" icon that should be there. Apparently the theme substitution of "folder.png" covers non-menu instances of folder icon? This is probably a bug rather than feature.	[16:08]
nyloth	chibaguy: not a bug, you may want to substitute any icons, including those in filegals	[16:10]
chibaguy	(I mean it's in the "Type" column, representing "folder" type of item.	[16:10]
luciash	doh	[16:10]
nyloth	chibaguy: the main problem is that the same file is used for two different things	[16:10]
luciash	chibaguy: where can we see it ? ah, tiki-list_file_gallery	[16:11]
chibaguy	Yes, under the "T" in the table.	[16:12]
nyloth	for me the fix will be to use another filename for the "Type" column (so, duplicate the folder.png file into folder_type.png or something like that= s/=/)/	[16:12]
chibaguy	right	[16:12]
luciash	maybe it should rather use pics/icons/tree_folder_open.png there	[16:13]
nyloth	luciash: maybe, but I would vote for a new one (because you don't necessarily want to show an "open" folder there)	[16:13]
luciash	yup	[16:14]
nyloth	nyloth wonders if marc has disappered ... :)	[16:14]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18361 10/branches/3.0/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] wikiplugin edit: use rather the cross icon from default iconset than the weird fullscreen_minimize icon to close the helper	[16:17]
chibaguy	chibaguy wants more RAM in his laptop....	[16:21]
marclaporte	marclaporte got distracted php doc/devtools/release.php 3.0RC1 --no-tagging would that be good? Warning: DOMDocument::loadXML(): Empty string supplied as input in /home/release/public_html/3.0/doc/devtools/svntools.php on line 82 1) Update working copy to the last revision? [Y/n/q/?] y Update in progress...Subcommand 'status' doesn't accept option '--xml' Type 'svn help status' for usage. Warning: DOMDocument::loadXML(): Empty string supplied as input in /home/release/public_html/3.0/doc/devtools/svntools.php on line 82 >> Checkout updated to revision 0.	[16:22]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18362 10/branches/proposed/: Quality Team: Creation of new 'branches/proposed' branch to allow developpers to propose patches for the stable branch that may or may not be accepted by the Quality Team (see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Quality+Team).	[16:25]
nyloth	marclaporte: do you have php 5 ?	[16:26]
marclaporte	yes	[16:26]
nyloth	marclaporte: well, at least two problems: the command line is not correct you must have a space between 3.0 and RC1 marclaporte: but, did you make the first steps displayed in --howto ?	[16:26]
marclaporte	marclaporte is ashamed to say no marclaporte just jumped in to seeif it would work	[16:28]
nyloth	lol	[16:29]
marclaporte	many errors but now at step 6 40% of files passed the syntax check yay!	[16:29]
nyloth	no problem, but you should follow the steps correcly ;p ... please stop the script and fix the command line :) in fact, any error is bad in the case of a release :)	[16:29]
marclaporte	yes	[16:31]
nyloth	I'm not sure your subversion is up-to-date enough, since it seems to refuse the --xml option could you stop the script and try again with this: php doc/devtools/release.php 3.0 preRC1 (there is a space between 3.0 and preRC1)	[16:32]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18363 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Avoid transparent border backgrounds in popups.	[16:33]
nyloth	if you still have the error about 'status' and '--xml', probably your svn is too old :/ if not, let me know	[16:34]
marclaporte	which version of SVN is necessary?	[16:36]
nyloth	not sure. Try this command line to see if it works : svn status --xml (you have to be inside your checkout) it seems version 1.3 or more is needed	[16:37]
marclaporte	[release@alpha www]$ svn status --xml Subcommand 'status' doesn't accept option '--xml'	[16:40]
nyloth	ok, you probably have a version older than 1.3 are you able to update it to a new version ?	[16:40]
marclaporte	no, I am not root on that account I was expecting something like this	[16:41]
nyloth	marclaporte: don't you have an account ona better server ? :)	[16:42]
marclaporte	marclaporte checks	[16:44]
nyloth	:) (marclaporte should ask for a good linux laptop for xmas ;) )	[16:44]
marclaporte	[release@alpha www]$ svn --version svn, version 1.1.4 (r13838)	[16:47]
nyloth	not good	[16:47]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18364 10/branches/3.0/pics/icons/ (eye.png no_eye.png): [FIX] some mascara to improve watch icons	[16:49]
marclaporte	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release#Requirements Is that ok?	[16:51]
chibaguy	luciash, I don't know if that's what marc meant about wanting Tiki to look sexy ;-) .	[16:53]
nyloth	marclaporte: yes. Maybe better to precise : subversion 1.3 or more marclaporte: if you precise "plenty of disk space", you may also want to add something similar for memory for the checkout, maybe precise that it has to be downloaded through svn, not a zip file. It has to be a checkout to work I'll update the page oh, you're still editing it, so I let you update with my comments	[16:54]
marclaporte	go for it	[16:57]
nyloth	marclaporte: do you have another server with an account ?	[16:58]
	marc ?	[17:06]
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marclaporte	sorry	[17:21]
campbe13	whats the blockers link svp	[17:21]
nyloth	marclaporte: it's ok marclaporte: so... are u able to get a shell with an uptodate svn ? campbe13: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process	[17:21]
campbe13	thanks nyloth, hi all :)	[17:25]
nyloth	hi :)	[17:25]
	o = this.people.marclaporte.status; if ( this.people.marclaporte.status == FROZEN ) ; then this.people.marclaporte.reboot(); fi :p	[17:33]
caralluna	lol	[17:34]
campbe13	he's here but he's talking to someone	[17:35]
nyloth	campbe13: yes, I supposed this :)	[17:35]
marclaporte	oups	[17:36]
nyloth	lol	[17:36]
luciash	greetings to TikiFest Canada !	[17:37]
campbe13	right back at ya!	[17:40]
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caralluna	caralluna wishes he had a teleporter ;-)	[17:47]
nyloth	which should be more reliable than btiffin conecction ;p s/conecction/connection/	[17:48]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18365 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French Translation	[17:51]
luciash	is this weird icon pics/icons/assign.png used anywhere ? cannot grep it	[17:51]
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chibaguy	That's an ugly icon, and the way it looks doesn't convey any meaning, to me.	[17:55]
luciash	do we keep images/workspaces/ for 3.0 ?	[18:00]
chibaguy	those images must be in the workspaces experimental branch too?	[18:01]
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chibaguy	yes, http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/experimental/workspaces/images/workspaces/	[18:02]
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marclaporte	back	[18:04]
nyloth	hi to all tikifesters	[18:05]
luciash	chibaguy: is it safe to remove then ?	[18:06]
marclaporte	marclaporte finds new server	[18:06]
nyloth	luciash: IMO there is no urgency to remove such files. For me, it should be done in trunk	[18:06]
luciash	luciash thought it would save some space for the release if such files are cleaned out	[18:07]
nyloth	luciash: as you wish, but take care if you do so	[18:08]
marclaporte	we have no way of testing if they are used (yet) hopefully for 4.0 :-) on my server, sh setup.sh gives Fix global perms ...chown: `demotw:apache': invalid group chowned ... done.	[18:11]
nyloth	marclaporte: if you prepare a checkout for the release, no need to use setup.sh. The checkout should be completely clean	[18:17]
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luciash	are you preparing RC now ? is there commit freeze already or what time ?	[18:17]
marclaporte	not yet script doesn't work on my server	[18:19]
luciash	hmm	[18:20]
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marclaporte	campbe13 will try running the release script	[18:59]
nyloth	ok	[18:59]
marclaporte	on another shell account svn, version 1.4.2 (r22196)	[19:00]
nyloth	ok, it should work then	[19:01]
xavi	back for 30 min or so reading log	[19:02]
nyloth	campbe13: when you are ready, tell me campbe13: you first have to read the output of: php doc/devtools/release.php --howto and you can skip the two first tasks of the first step "Preliminary manual tasks" I propose to also skip 2 and 3 which are used to produce pre-tarballs, but are not really useful anymore, in fact, since the release script is interactive and let you check if every step has succeded before going to next step (I meant "skip step 2 and step 3") so, after finishing step 1, you can directly use this command line: php doc/devtools/release.php 3.0 RC1 and follow instructions on screen	[19:03]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18366 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] installer: use the help.png icon as everywhere else in Tiki instead of the M$ copyrighted one	[19:10]
marclaporte	this new server has php5 on command line by default grrr	[19:11]
nyloth	php5 is ok	[19:11]
marclaporte	campbe13: : usernamer@server:~$ /usr/local/php5/bin/php -v	[19:12]
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marclaporte	but we still do step 1? step 1 should be 1a, 1b, etc so we know what we can skip :-)	[19:16]
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xavi	luciash, images/workspaces are not used in tiki3 (they are remnant from the time when workspaces was in cvs for 1.10) nyloth: "(13:25:41) nyloth: php closing tags ?> should be never used at the end of a php file (it's a bad practice to use them)" <- local.php has the ending ?> tag	[19:20]
nyloth	yes, skip 1a and 1b do 1c, 1d, 1e skip 2, 3 xavi: not a real problem, but we will probably remove them in 4.0	[19:21]
xavi	ok later on (after codefesters end the rfirst release candidate ;-).... nyloth, if you (or any php guru) can have a look at the issue with multitiki in subdirectories not working according to the documentation: it's a blocker for all the sites attempting to upgrade to 3.0 their multitikis in subdirectories.... it's been reported earlier today on this irc channel but for later, I mean (I wouldn't want to distract the release process...) go Montreal, go! :-)	[19:23]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18367 10/branches/3.0/images/workspaces/: [DEL] removing unused workspaces images (again) from Tiki before 3.0	[19:26]
xavi	luciash, about images, did you see the icons I added for new mime types? .odt, odp, .svg, etc.	[19:26]
nyloth	xavi: maybe add this "known bug" to the release30 page... and it will be at least fixed for 3.1	[19:26]
xavi	I wanted to add in 3.0, but I though I shouldn't on tiki 3.0....	[19:26]
luciash	xavi: yes	[19:26]
xavi	do you think that they may fit in tiki 3.0? nyloth: it's been already there for some days, at least	[19:27]
nyloth	ok :)	[19:27]
xavi	:-) and nyltoh, the incons for word .doc in file galleries (those shown just when the file is uploaded), where not equal to their svg counterparts I've re-created them from their svg counterparts in trunk	[19:28]
luciash	xavi: they're for file galleries ? i don't know, it's late to review	[19:29]
xavi	I hope that's fine they are also the type of icons shown when you upload a file to the file gallery: a big icons is shown according to the file type	[19:29]
luciash	why some icons are in lib/images/ ? btw	[19:30]
xavi	good point: that where they seem to be used by file galleries afaik	[19:31]
marclaporte	everyone: please hold your commits	[19:31]
xavi	ok marclaporte: ok	[19:31]
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luciash	and pics/icons/mime/ ???	[19:31]
marclaporte	we are running script to make 3.0rc1	[19:31]
luciash	marclaporte: ok	[19:31]
xavi	go marclaporte, go! :-)	[19:31]
nyloth	yeah :)	[19:32]
xavi	luciash: lib/images/icons is where the icons are stored for the uploaded files and pics/icons/mime/ is where the 16x16 images are stored for the files , when they are listed in the file galery list (afaik), or elsewhere when they are used their small versions	[19:32]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18368 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 3.0rc1 release	[19:34]
campbe13	nyloth: Fatal error: Call to undefined function readline() in /home/tikirelease/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php on line 330	[19:38]
nyloth	campbe13: which version of php ?	[19:39]
campbe13	due to path php4 in path using abs to run script ??	[19:39]
Tikiwiki\|bot	??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]	[19:39]
nyloth	http://fr.php.net/manual/fr/function.readline.php http://fr.php.net/manual/fr/intro.readline.php it seems it's both in php4 and php5, but not on windows platforms it's an extension you may not have it's a linux box ?	[19:40]
marclaporte	yes nyloth: : you have mail with login	[19:43]
nyloth	try : php --re readline this should give info about the "readline" extension to see if you have it marclaporte: ok	[19:43]
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luciash	marclaporte: let me know then when we can continue "the cleaning job" ;)	[19:46]
nyloth	marclaporte: it seems your php don't have readline, which is needed to allow the interactive mode. campbe13: I propose to do without the interactive mode campbe13: just a moment, I'll check which command you have to use... campbe13: /usr/local/php5/bin/php --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --no-secdb --no-packaging --no-tagging --force-yes you can try this it should not ask you any question and do the svn and php syntax check	[19:50]
luciash	marclaporte: there's syntax error commited in lib/setup/twversion.class.php on line 99	[19:58]
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luciash	now i get "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_LNUMBER, expecting ')' in /mnt/sda1/Devel/SVN/Tiki/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php on line 99" because of it marclaporte: was it caused by the script or manually ? marclaporte: i can fix and commit back if you like	[19:58]
nyloth_	luciash: you can fix, it's a missing comma, this is not a step that can be done by the script, too dangerous to parse this file by a script IMO	[20:01]
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luciash	ok	[20:04]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18369 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: parse error fix: missing comma	[20:06]
mlaporte	oups viva collaboration!!! nothing like many eyeballs	[20:06]
luciash	:)	[20:07]
nyloth_	So, I was saying: I propose to do without the interactive mode the command line should be : /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --no-secdb --no-packaging --no-tagging --force-yes	[20:08]
mlaporte	mlaporte runs script again while campbe13 stepped out ..	[20:08]
nyloth_	to check if the first steps are ok :)	[20:08]
luciash	literally ? :)	[20:09]
nyloth_	btw, thanx campbe13 :) mlaporte: is it running correctly ?	[20:09]
	If everything gone fine, you can now use this command line : /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-first-update --no-check-php --no-secdb --no-packaging --no-tagging --force-yes 3.0 rc1	[20:17]
xavi	xavi found a manual workaround for multitikis in subdirectories to work in tiki3.0 (skipping the error steps)	[20:22]
mlaporte	campbe13 is on top of things :-) mlaporte wonders why there was only 2 steps	[20:22]
nyloth_	mlaporte: there was only two steps because all others were explicitely disabled in the command line :)	[20:23]
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nyloth_	mlaporte: I just wanted to take no risks and check step by step	[20:23]
mlaporte	ok, it worked	[20:24]
nyloth_	mlaporte: the second command line I sent should make more things (but still not all steps, especially not secdb, packaging and tagging, which are the most risky) ok	[20:24]
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nyloth_	so, now, as said above, you can try some next steps : /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-first-update --no-check-php --no-secdb --no-packaging --no-tagging --force-yes 3.0 rc1 tell me if you have any error	[20:25]
mlaporte	now, we test that	[20:26]
nyloth_	ok	[20:26]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18370 10/branches/3.0/README: [REL] Update README file for 3.0rc1	[20:26]
nyloth_	seems to work...	[20:26]
luciash	xavi: congrats :)	[20:26]
mlaporte	it automatically commits111	[20:26]
nyloth_	yes	[20:26]
mlaporte	hahahahahah	[20:27]
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mlaporte	we just thought it was for fun	[20:27]
luciash	heheh, marc panics	[20:27]
nyloth_	this is the behavior with --force-yes ... since you don't have readline() function which allows interactive mode lol	[20:27]
xavi	luciash: thanks (a bit dirty, but works... )	[20:27]
nyloth_	don't panic, I'll fix if there is a problem :)	[20:27]
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mlaporte	:-0 :-)	[20:30]
nyloth_	:)	[20:30]
xavi	dinner time (bbl)	[20:33]
nyloth_	see you later	[20:33]
luciash	xavi: ? where are you located ? :-p	[20:34]
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nyloth_	for the moment everything seems ok :)	[20:37]
sylvieg	hello guys - back from my community service day (another one next saturday)	[20:37]
nyloth_	hi sylvie :) marclaporte is releasing 3.0rc1 :)	[20:37]
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nyloth_	marclaporte: updating copyrights is always quite long...	[20:39]
sylvieg	I sill have my list of blockers I did not time to work om last week (the ajax module problem and the calendar view and the new module calendar) last one is not a blocker	[20:40]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18373 10/branches/3.0/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 3.0rc1	[20:41]
nyloth_	marclaporte: great :) marclaporte: we can start next steps marclaporte: try this : /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-first-update --no-check-php --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --no-secdb --no-packaging --no-tagging --force-yes 3.0 rc1 oups no it will do nothing :) marclaporte: try this : /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-check-php --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --force-yes 3.0 rc1 or if you prefer to do secdb separately add --no-packaging and --no-tagging , as you prefer	[20:41]
mlaporte	campbe13 is on top of things :-) sylvieg: did you get in trouble with the law? :-)	[20:47]
nyloth_	:)	[20:48]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18374 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0rc1	[20:49]
mlaporte	for the record, campbe13 is committingwith my account but she is doing the real work I am just having a beer and chatting	[20:49]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18375 10/tags/3.0rc1/: [REL] Tagging release	[20:51]
nyloth_	ok, thanx a lot campbe13 :)	[20:51]
mlaporte	nyloth_: does the release script expect a mysql server?	[20:51]
nyloth_	mlaporte: it uses mysql functions	[20:51]
campbe13	Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/tikirelease/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php on line 192 ??	[20:52]
Tikiwiki\|bot	??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]	[20:52]
campbe13	quelqun is the	[20:53]
luciash	g	[20:53]
nyloth_	campbe13: for one step (secdb) it uses php mysql_real_escape_string() function I suppose a mysql server is required, not sure	[20:53]
campbe13	what is there in the world here to?	[20:53]
mlaporte	hmmm	[20:55]
campbe13	désolé essais transl	[20:55]
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mlaporte	mysql is not on localhost but available	[20:56]
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mlaporte	host mysql.rclaporte.com	[20:56]
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nyloth_	mlaporte: can you send me by mail a valid user + password on for this sql server, please ? I'll test it mlaporte: you can create a new one if you want mlaporte: no need to have a database (i suppose)	[20:59]
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mlaporte	ok, I will create db user	[21:07]
nyloth_	mlaporte: thx :)	[21:07]
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marclaporte	nyloth_: : sent	[21:16]
nyloth_	campbe13: Ok, there is a way to specify a specific mysql host, user and pass for the release... instead of just "/usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php", try again your last command with "/usr/local/php5/bin/php d mysql.default_host=mysql.rclaporte.com -d mysql.default_user=MYSQLUSER -d mysql.default_password=MYSQLPASSWORD doc/devtools/release.php" change MYSQLUSER and MYSQLPASSWORD by user/pass that marc just created so... full command should be: /usr/local/php5/bin/php d mysql.default_host=mysql.rclaporte.com -d mysql.default_user=MYSQLUSER -d mysql.default_password=MYSQLPASSWORD doc/devtools/release.php --no-check-php --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --force-yes 3.0 rc1 oups, -d /usr/local/php5/bin/php -d mys... you should not get any mysql errors anymore then	[21:17]
mlaporte	mlaporte thought of everything... oups it's quite good that it looks like we are going to be able to get it to work on this account of course, we could ask amette for an account like release.tikiwiki.org but this is good dogfood	[21:21]
nyloth_	sure it's a bit annoying to have no readline() function, since the interactive mode can't be used... will have to find a way to install it on the server or maybe another function that could do the same, but not sure it exists but, yes, good dogfood :)	[21:22]
luciash	bbl	[21:24]
nyloth_	see you later luciash	[21:25]
luciash	luciash needs shower	[21:25]
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nyloth_	Ok, this time everything seems fine... I suppose the script is building the tarballs now... if the tarballs are OK, then they just have to be uploaded to sourceforge and the release is done :) good job campbe13 :)	[21:29]
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campbe13	Je suis le dactylographe:)	[21:33]
mlaporte	yay1 is there a script to / procedure to upload? what have we learned? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/how%20to%20release	[21:33]
nyloth_	:) To upload the 'tarballs', copy-paste and execute the following line (and change '$SF_LOGIN' by your SF.net login): cd ~/tikipack/3.0.rc1 scp bz2 gz *zip $SF_LOGIN@frs.sourceforge.net:uploads	[21:36]
mlaporte	mlaporte copies to documentation	[21:39]
nyloth_	well... the --howto explains that http://tinyurl.com/59uubv contains enough info. I didn't checked	[21:40]
campbe13	it is still running is that normal ??	[21:41]
nyloth_	campbe13: what is still running ? the scp or the release.php ? the release.php has finished and tarballs are in ~/tikipack/3.0.rc1/	[21:42]
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nyloth_	campbe13 & mlaporte: you can already upload to sourceforge, but before someone makes them visible for the public, you should put those three files on another web hosting to give us the link to download and test them	[21:48]
campbe13	sorry done now on release.rclaporte.com nyloth: does script gen md5/sha1 chksums ??	[21:50]
nyloth_	campbe13: no, not yet	[21:50]
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mlaporte	nyloth_: what do you think of md5?	[22:11]
nyloth_	mlaporte: for what usage ? s/what/which/	[22:12]
mlaporte	maybe part of the script?	[22:12]
nyloth_	well, why not, if it's to give to other people for checking the integrity of tarballs but it's not so reliable and important IMO	[22:13]
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campbe13	nyloth: INSERT INTO `tiki_secdb` (`md5_value`, `filename`, `tiki_version`, `severity`) VALUES('a25b5510162a87f8e571ddab7219f1aa', '', '3.0rc1', 0) gettng 68 errors as above db install any ideas ?	[22:18]
nyloth_	campbe13: hmm... secdb files are not good probably... I'm checking no, secdb file seems fine	[22:20]
campbe13	meme erreur 68 fois	[22:21]
nyloth_	secdb is bad in tag, but ok in branch	[22:23]
campbe13	quoi faire ?	[22:25]
nyloth_	I'll fix it, no problem	[22:25]
campbe13	tks let me know	[22:26]
nyloth_	ok	[22:26]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18379 10/tags/3.0rc1/: [REL] Deleting tag 'tags/3.0rc1' in order to create a new one tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18380 10/tags/3.0rc1/: [REL] Tagging release	[22:31]
nyloth_	campbe13: it should be ok campbe13: please rebuild your packages using this command: /usr/local/php5/bin/php doc/devtools/release.php --no-check-svn --no-check-php --no-first-update --no-readme-update --no-lang-update --no-changelog-update --no-copyright-update --no-secdb --no-tagging --force-yes 3.0 rc1 it will only build the packages files that you will be able to test again and upload to sf.net if ok	[22:33]
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campbe13	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_OBJECT_OPERATOR in /home/tikirelease/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php on line 61	[22:36]
nyloth_	campbe13: wait...	[22:36]
campbe13	ok	[22:36]
nyloth_	campbe13: I found a bug with the --no-tagging option combined with --force-yes. I'll fix it after the release campbe13: your parse error is not related. did you still used the php5 ? campbe13: btw, I'll make the tarballs and send you the files	[22:38]
campbe13	will fix ...	[22:39]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18381 10/tags/3.0rc1/: [REL] Deleting tag 'tags/3.0rc1' in order to create a new one	[22:40]
nyloth_	you have to re-run the script without --no-tagging there is a bug with this option, sorry :) it avoids creating the new tag, but will still delete the existing one, which is not good :)	[22:40]
mlaporte	tiki-install gives me blank page towards the end 2nd try: i got: Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 6029312) (tried to allocate 98304 bytes) in C:xampphtdocstikiwikilibsmartylibsSmarty_Compiler.class.php on line 533	[22:42]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18382 10/tags/3.0rc1/: [REL] Tagging release	[22:43]
mlaporte	with latest version of XaMMP	[22:43]
nyloth_	mlaporte: allocated 6MB = out of memory ... seems normal to me. It's not enough	[22:43]
mlaporte	php.ini says 32	[22:44]
campbe13	nyloth: didn't see the msg am running script to create tarballs	[22:44]
nyloth_	campbe13: ok, everything should be ok now then... you juste have to wait until tarballs are made now :) mlaporte: 32 or 32M ? mlaporte: maybe it's 32M in php.ini, but the server didn't had enough free memory at this moment ? don't now, I think you should try on another server	[22:45]
mlaporte	barebones is ok	[22:47]
nyloth_	ok :)	[22:49]
campbe13	nyloth; works fine now, uploaded new tarballs & zip	[23:02]
nyloth_	ok, great :) mhh... I don't see files on SF.net with my account So, you will have to use your account the one used to do the scp https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/editreleases.php?package_id=312463&release_id=679968&group_id=64258	[23:02]
campbe13	on release.rclaporte.com not on sf	[23:07]
nyloth_	campbe13: ah ok :)	[23:08]
mlaporte	mlaporte confirms that latest barebones is ok on XAMMP mlaporte confirms secdb is ok too	[23:09]
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mib_aaadfb	hi hi	[23:13]
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mlaporte	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/TikiWiki+3.0	[23:19]
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campbe13	nyloth: svp https again lost the history marc: svp url again ?	[23:36]
nyloth_	https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/editreleases.php?package_id=312463&release_id=679968&group_id=64258 campbe13: I tested an install with the zip file, it seems ok I think you can upload files to sf.net	[23:37]
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campbe13	i'm on it	[23:38]
nyloth_	ok	[23:38]
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marclaporte	campbe13: : http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2009-05-02,Sat&sel=903#l899	[23:41]
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nyloth_	campbe13: Thanx. It seems everything is ok now, files apparently on sf.net, there is just the usual communication to do (mails, etc.) that marc knows well :) So, I'll go sleeping because it's very late here. good evening/night tikifesters	[23:55]
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campbe13	nloth: thanks for doing the hard work, I did the last easy part! goodniht	[23:58]

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