#tikiwiki 2009-05-04,Mon

admin panel
on clean install
# tiki-admin.php?page=login feature_show_stay_in_ssl_mode
# tiki-admin.php?page=metatags
# tiki-admin.php?page=community
^^^
Several admin panels tiki-admin.php?page=xyz are displaying incorrect feedback about which features are turned on/off

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tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18411 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_equation.php: [FIX] path to equation/class include file

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marclaporte

a second new committer today: sthibault-php
MatWho: : do you see problem?
luciash: are you struggling with css?

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MatWho

yes in metatags looking at code now ...

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luciash

marclaporte: nope

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marclaporte

sthibault: : everyone
everyone: sthibault
sthibault : is with me at TikiFest

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tikiwiki: 03sthibault-php * r18412 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: Profiles => profils

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marclaporte

congrats sthibault!! 1st Tiki commit

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sthibault

Took a few years but Marc has finally won me over... with some beer ;)

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marclaporte

hahahahhahahahha
sthibault is normally a MediaWiki user :-)
If you are curious: http://wikielegance.com/
and tiki version: http://wikielegance.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki+Consultant

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18413 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.add_help.php: [FIX] Advanced Search Help icon: do not follow the link on click + enhancement: use Shadowbox to display the help when Shadowbox is on
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18414 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] 1-Fix some doc links 2-Add/fix help strings. (sorry to translators but English was confusing)

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tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18415 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH][FIX] send email to validate account when creating new users:
tikiwiki: * New mail templates, more appropriated
tikiwiki: * If user has also to change its password, don't send temporary passwords by mail but ask him to choose a new password as soon as his account is validated
tikiwiki: * Do not consider that the password is wrong when user has refreshed the validation page by mistake
tikiwiki: * Fix checkbox status for 'must change password' and 'send email to validate...' when editing existing users

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marclaporte

MatWho: need help?
you can review some earlier related commits

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MatWho

ok but still not sure what is wrong looking ...

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marclaporte

commit revision 18226
^^^ an example of how Nyloth fixed something similar
do you see problem?

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18416 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] fixed "invisible" I forgot my password link

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luciash

marclaporte: in the profile you suggested to me: Permission denied. You do not have permission to read complete articles.

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marclaporte

in 10 minutes, I will delete share plugin

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luciash

tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1

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marclaporte

ok, can you add the perm in the profile?

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luciash

no clue

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marclaporte

in wiki page
which profile?

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luciash

tiki-list_articles.php also have a problem: You are not logged in. Go to Login Page
Collaborative_Community

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marclaporte

ok, add here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Community_Permissions
read_article should be moved to Anonymous
that simple

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luciash

hmm, "Anonymous users can read article headers but are encouraged to register to read complete articles and to participate"
so is it an intended feature ?

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marclaporte

I say change it
most common use cas is anon can read artciles

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luciash

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marclaporte

we can keep that feature for a newspaper profile later

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luciash

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MatWho

marclaporte: sorry cant see what is wrong - will look tomorrow too late here

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marclaporte

do you see problem?
or not see what is problem in code?

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MatWho

can not see what is wrong in code

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marclaporte

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luciash

marclaporte: ok, edited it
gotta go
bbl

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18417 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_share.php: [FIX] Removing this plugin because of Fatal error: Call to undefined function wikiplugin_submit() in /home/demotw/3.0/mysql/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_share.php on line 87

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marclaporte

thanks Luci!
any soliders left?

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marclaporte is feeling most of the juice of the community was squeezed for this release
and it is the best version by far

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MatWho

marclaporte: found problem commit fix now

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marclaporte

yay!

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sthibault

Wow, a commit plus I found a real live "working" bug in the same evening! I think my work here is done :-p

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tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18418 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Metatag threadtitle, imagetitle and freetag prefs not shown on admin page

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MatWho

its 3 am here so off to sleep do rest of them tomorrow
marclaporte: we need to "absolutely feature freeze" 3.0 for a while now to get all the bugs sorted

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mlaporte

Matthew: we have been in absolute feature freeze for a while now
we just lack bug swatting brainpower
one million lines of code

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mlaporte

polom

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18419 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mouseover.php: [FIX] moving mandatory plugin parameters to the top.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18420 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-site_header_login.tpl: [FIX] Adding a space before register link so it looks ok in all themes and when CSSs are deactivated

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xavi

tocotoc

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xavi

class="reflect" on images rocks!
xavi has just updated all the remaining images in doc.tw.o h omepage to have "reflection" on the fly

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Beestje

good meurning!

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xavi

hi Beestje

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Beestje

hello xavi!

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luciash

polomorning

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xavi

toctocmorning lucias
s/lucias/luciash

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luciash

hola xavi

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xavi

:-) is it you speaking Catalan or is it mibbit? ;-)
Catalan or Spanish, of course, btw (and maybe "or some other similar lang)

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luciash

it's me :)

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xavi

:-)
I got tired of waiting for chmod/chown filegals in doc.tw.o and I shifted that setting to store images in db
so I started updating some pics

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luciash

hmm, that's dangerous

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xavi

in a minute you'll see new images (with the nice reflect effect!) in homepage
dangerous: well, there where no files in file gals
and new images will be saved in file fals

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luciash

i mean it will eat a lot of db resources

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xavi

so that new images are stored in db ...
oh, well, do you have a phone number from amette, or other way to contact him? (or get a username and pass from doc.tw.o?)

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luciash

yes i do but couldn't you just change path ?
to files/

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xavi

yes, I could
so that, we leave them there from now onwards?

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luciash

(it's the default i think)

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xavi

I thought there was a way to safely move images from files to db and the other way round

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luciash

not sure, maybe only one way

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xavi

ok, I'll change path to files/
xavi is in process of deleting the old-fashioned and not-energy-efficient image of the light bulb in doc.tw.o homepage that he added years ago

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luciash

these images are pretty ugly, yup :)
best would be something to fit strasa or icons we use

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xavi

I agree luci.
for the time being, homepage updated with some new icons

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luciash

cool

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xavi

at least better than before, imho....

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luciash

xavi: just give anonymous perms to view gallery files pls ;)

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xavi

:-D
oh well, I was reusing an old file gallery created by another user time ago...
... and I didn't notice that that file gal had object perms...
... removing them right now
and I'll check that global perms are ok

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luciash

now they appear

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xavi

ok
however, I've changed the path to the files...
and I expected the files to disappear, unless admin filegals oes the job of moving them to the new folder,....
that would be very clever...

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luciash

much cooler pics, still i would recommend use of antialiased png files on white bg
these jaggy edges drive me crazy ;)

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xavi

the what?
I need to learn how to do that :-)
unskilled newbie playing with images here...

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luciash

heh, in gimp you don't convert them to indexed palette but keep in RGB (which is 24bit)

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xavi

which one?

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luciash

you don't need transparency
at doc.tw.o for the icons

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xavi

I had many problems in gimp to keep white bg for the exclamation mark one, so that I ended up converting the svg to png through inkscape, the only way it workded for me

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luciash

oh, but inkscape shouldn't do such jaggy edges on the transparent image a t all
well, depends where you got the icon

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xavi

luciash: could you please add a page in doc.tw.o for "contributors/authors/..." on "png best practices" using gimp or inkscape?

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luciash

sure, that would be helpfull i think, but not today, too busy :-/

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xavi

I got the icons from openclipart-0.18 (openclipart.org)
ok, anytime before 4.0 :-)
some icons were only in svg (like exclamation mark), some other came already in svg and png (most of them)

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luciash

if you send me these files i can export nicer from inkscape quickly

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xavi

there I go...
let's see if pidgin can do that through irc

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luciash

i doubt
i'll start my jabber client

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xavi

ok, I go to your jabber account, then
ok
do you want me to send you the svg files, or the png?

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luciash

svg

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xavi

(svg's, I guess)

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luciash

hth
bbl

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xavi

yes, it helped, luciash :-) cheers

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luciash

re
xavi: but don't use the &preview mode, use &display instead, otherwise you get JPEG thumbnail version
see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&preview vs http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&display

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xavi

ok, just copied the syntax from the file galleries
I'll change that on doc.tw.o homepage

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module last_articles is not showing all articles :-/ (at least, in doc.tw.o)

neither in homepage, nor in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+last_articles

this article, for instance, is not shown: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/art19 (from march 2009)
oups, plugin module seems to require approval (!). Can it be dangerous or unsafe???

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rss shows them all right...
I?ll change module last_articles for the rss feed http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-articles_rss.php?ver=2

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tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18421 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] Less agressive and more consistent with other translations

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sethxx

hello all

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sethxx

i recentley re-downlaoded tikiwiki, and chose a theme, eaton
i'm noticing a strange filename, before copying the theme files over
in particular: sicustomcode,tpl
this coming from a freshly extrated zip template file, from the official repo
is this a tragedy waiting to happen?
can anybody with trac access open a bug for this, or notify the owner of the theme, if this is a bug?
thanks.

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MatWho

what version of tw are you talking about?

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sethxx

the bug is relative to the theme
to eaton
download eaton, unpack, and point your filemanager to the templates/styles/eaton/ directory

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chibaguy

sethxx, "sicustomcode,tpl" shouldn't have a comma; it should be a .tpl file. The purpose of that file is to hold some default content that can be input by the site admin in the custom code textarea on the Look & Feel admin page.
The file can either be linked to or its content copied and pasted into the admin textarea.
I used this method to provide some custom code for some themes in Tiki 2.

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MatWho

hi chibaguy how are you?

[10:54]

chibaguy

Hi MatWho. I'm fine thanks.

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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18422 10/mods/trunk/themes/eatlon/templates/styles/eatlon/sicustomcode.tpl: [FIX] File had incorrect name.

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chibaguy

I guess the blog template got straightened out ok?

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MatWho

sethxx: yes
made commit yesterday
sorry chibaguy yes

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chibaguy

That's ok; glad it got sorted out in the end.

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sethxx

great
glad i could help

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luciash

chibaguy: yup i fixed it for strasa tpl

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MatWho

copying tpl files is not very good, because it is difficult to ensure fixes get to all the copies in each theme. Did not check if any other themes need fix.

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chibaguy

MatWho, I agree. But Strasa was designed without thought of how the template displays the page parts, and these parts diverge quite a bit in Strasa from the other themes.
So the challenge was either to modify Patrick's design closer to what the default blog page is like, or try to rearrange things entirely in css, or give strasa its own tpl files in a few cases.

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MatWho

yes it is just important to remember to check each time we update .tpl files

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chibaguy

Didn't want to do the first, out of respect for the design, and couldn't manage the second reliably in all browsers, so fell back to the third.

[11:03]

MatWho

yes I am sure you made the correct decision.

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chibaguy

Coelese has some of its own too for the same reason.
Heh, I hope so, but it's been a learning experience. ;-)
Also I need to provide more and better docs for such things, so it's no so opaque.

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MatWho

yes that would be good, but maybe we should adopt a convention to put a comment in the original file that we have made a copy and where we put it.

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chibaguy

Looks like you guys have all been hard at work; I had to be away from the pc all day today.
good idea.

[11:05]

MatWho

I know this would involve making a commit on the original file but it would be worth while to keep this under some control

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sylvieg

doc.tw is very slow for me

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MatWho

chibaguy: is coelese well tested?

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sylvieg

xavi it is because art19 has no language

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chibaguy

Well, also make it better known that when a bug seems to be theme-specific, to also check if it has .tpl files.

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xavi

sylvieg: ah...

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MatWho

hi sylvieg

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sylvieg

pretty sure ... if one day I can have doc.tw answering...
hi

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chibaguy

mm, depends on your standards, I guess. ;-) Coelese has some unique layout things as it came from the ui-revamp branch, which are still showing some minor problems in the page header area, last time I checked.

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sylvieg

xavi: perhaps the behavior should be if no lang specified for the articles -> should it alqways...

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xavi

sylvieg: +1
it's been confusing for some time this morning to me

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chibaguy

Also it has a couple of tpl files of its own.
so there's potential for trouble.
(I should say Coelesce's page header was fine for quite a while afaik, but then in the last few days is displaying a bit strangely.
which I'm trying to track down.)

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sylvieg

btw - good news - I can use profiles now - it is a bug in apache - apache does not load your dns servers if they are added after apache was started - I only have to restart apache after each reboot :-)

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chibaguy

(My opinion about theme-specific templates: the bad part is the duplication and possibility that updates will be missed. The good part is that the layout can be more straight-forward and consistent in all browsers....
....positioning absolute/relative is a minefield, imho, esp. when trying to support ie6 & 7.)
Time to eat here. will be back soon..

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sylvieg

another bug http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-edit_translation.php?id=19&type=article I can not set the language to en

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MatWho

just forget about IE6 it is no good, not your fault

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luciash

fsck
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?edit_mode=1&parentId=15 gives WSoD
:(
it means creating new file gallery fails
on tw.o
at least

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luciash

nobody cares, i put in image gal

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xavi

I do care, but don't know how to help

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luciash

default thumb size is not applied in image gals :-/
have to fill in and rebuild thumbnails now
it would be nice if ohertel svn up tw.o again
luciash going to send mail

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sylvieg

I am on tw.org
on unbuntu where a re the apache logs?

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luciash

sylvieg: /var/logs/apache2
s/logs/log/

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sylvieg

the last one is [Sun May 03 20:01:15 2009] [notice] child pid 17969 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
but I do not know how to svn up tw.org

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luciash

php is not logged in syslog by default on ubuntu iirc

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sylvieg

so where can i find the error?

[11:49]

luciash

php error ?
you have to enable php error reporting in tiki admin
if you can't modify php.ini

[11:51]

sylvieg

ah! ohertel has put tw.org unders svn before it was a copy ... so I can do a svn up

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luciash

thanks sylvieg

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sylvieg

ok tw is svn up

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chibaguy_away

colesce's site header searchbox background images are out of position since a day or two ago. Any ideas what might have happened?

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luciash

chibaguy: matter of setup ?

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xavi

luciash: can you open skype for a sec.?

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luciash

chibaguy: i experienced simillar theme difference in articles when comments are enabled... maybe it's simmilar when you have something off and the others have it on you don't notice until enabled

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xavi

I?m sending you an image

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luciash

xavi: sure

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chibaguy

ah, luciash, I realize it's because 1.9to2.2.css's #sitesearchbar has 5px padding...
...so coelesce.css just need to override.
easy fix

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xavi

luciash: if some people have thenews as the default theme style, when logging in doc.tw.o, they see images with white bg
so that, is it ok for you if I use the transparent images?

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luciash

chibaguy: i see
xavi: yup

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xavi

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luciash

xavi: i explained how to do it in email

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xavi

ah, ok :-)

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luciash

chibaguy: i wonder why using 1.9to2.2 in 3.0 ?

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chibaguy

good question, luciash. But tw.o is.

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luciash

luciash is missing rotating and cropping feature in Tiki
chibaguy: must be from the upgrade leftover

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chibaguy

probably

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luciash

http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=test&search=Go
sylvieg: did u upgrade db too ?

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sylvieg

yes
the bug in create fgal - is in list_users ...

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luciash

weird, i get an db error on this searchresults page logged in
sylvieg: ah !
sylvieg: good detective

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xavi

chibaguy: I can't see the highlighted content if using strasa.css . Do you mind if I update strasa and comit it?

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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18423 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Specify padding for #sitesearchbar to override in case 1.9to2.2.css is enabled.

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luciash

missing highlight is usability bug

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xavi

I mean, adding this: .highlight, #highlight {background-color: #f2cd5e}
:-)

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luciash

if it fixes it please commit

[12:18]

xavi

ok, there I go

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chibaguy

xavi, can you just add that class and id to span.button a, etc.? (there is a list of button-like items already). Would that give correct appearance?

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luciash

luciash changed to latest transition CSS on tw.o

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chibaguy

line 110

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xavi

checking...

[12:20]

chibaguy

I'd rather group similar color items if possible.

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xavi

oh well, why not highlight as in thenews?

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luciash

luciash wonders what button-like related highlight is ?

[12:21]

xavi

yelllowish/orangish like

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luciash

chibaguy: i don't understand

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chibaguy

Yesterday I found #highlight or .highlight being used to indicate the "active" button on a page. I don't recall which right now.

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xavi

chibaguy: no, this is just the color of the other (non-active) buttons from the version plugin

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xavi

I commit highlight as in thenews.css (good and enough to me, respect to the other buttons)

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luciash

chibaguy: i thought we talk about highlighting search results, sorry

[12:24]

chibaguy

so thought if it's the same color and bg as hover, that'd be good. (Sorry, I meant the :hover pseudo-class, above.)
Yeah, I don't know all instances of #highlight and .highlight, luciash.
xavi, do whatever looks good to you.

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mib_c5mrgs

hello, i'm evaluating tikiwiki for usage in an internal project, where i would use a tikiwiki installation as a common base for various customers. It should be an installation which is exposed to the web, but where each customer only sees and has access to his private stuff, where our devel team can create tasks/discussions/file repo's, to show to the custome

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mib_c5mrgs

main focus is on "having an open system, where everybody only sees what they have the rights to"

[12:25]

xavi

ok (at least versions plugin with strasa.css will highlight active button clearly)

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mib_c5mrgs

could anybody tell me if tikiwiki is suitable for such?

[12:26]

chibaguy

Found it: <span class="button"> <a id="highlight" ..> is on tiki-browse_categories.php.
so I thought giving id highlight the same coloring as button hover would be good.
but I don't know yet where else id highlight is used.
mib_c5mrgs, tikiwiki is good for that purpose, I think.

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[12:30]

chibaguy

For longer term, my idea to group highlight colors with button hover colors is to have better color coordination on a page, and also reduce the number of separate selectors to do similar jobs.

[12:32]

sylvieg

luciash: I think I need to wait for ohertel - I do not understand where the errors go..... crete gallery stop in the fetchRow in iat_users...

[12:32]

chibaguy

For this release, though, the main thing is to fix problems fast.

[12:32]

xavi

chibaguy: you may be right. But I couldn't find that right now, and I have too many open fires here... at least now highlight in plugin versions should work. if you know how to improve it while keeping plugin versions show a differnt (enough) color for the active button, it's ok with me

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mib_c5mrgs

also, whats the main advantage in 3.0 (beta) ?

[12:34]

xavi

mib_c5mrgs: start with 2.4. if curious with 3: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki3
but you still need first to master the basics, and there might be some tiny sharp corners in 3.0 still, that if you are used to the normal behavior, you identify quickly. If not used to tiki, you might be confused for some time, before identifying tiny bugs from lack of knowledge of how the system can be fine tuned, etc.

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nyloth

Hi all :)

[12:36]

xavi

mib_c5mrgs: what you are looking for requires setting a complex permission setup, which can be done easily with tiki, once you master the permission system.
hy nyloth :-)

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luciash

sylvieg: ok, thanks for looking into it

[12:43]

mib_c5mrgs

is it possible to have ajax on 2.4 or does this require 3.x ?
ie, the jquery integration
and ajax save

[12:43]

luciash

go for 3.0

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mib_c5mrgs

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xavi

luciash: how can I add several classes to an image: class="foo1:foo2" ?

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mib_c5mrgs

xavi: last time i fiddled with tikiwiki i set up a forum system, which has groups assigned, enabling r/w access to member groups.
but that is only limited to forums

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[12:49]

mib_c5mrgs

in this case i need single pages to have group access
can this be done?

[12:49]

luciash

xavi: using spaces

[12:49]

mib_c5mrgs

also, best way to get 3.x ? from the tarball, or from svn?
also, i found it to be a nice feauture that rss feeds dont give a crap about authentication/security , do i still have to disable them globally, or has this been tackled somehow?
this back in 1.x

[12:49]

xavi

luciash: ok
mib_c5mrgs: permissions on pages yes; rss issue: no idea, try by yourself. where to take a trial tiki3: get tiki3rc1 from sf.net
bbl

[12:51]

mib_c5mrgs

thanks
ill check it out

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[12:55]

xavi

luciash: didn't work for me, or reflect and the ie6 hack (img.ie6 I called it) didn't work together: you can see it in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/ under ie6 (however, not so important imho for pre-tiki3.0 release)

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[12:58]

luciash

xavi: you have to be sure the img syntax renders the class really on the img tag or some div wrapper instead to be applied correctly... you can try with ".foo" instead of "img.foo" only on the look and feel page

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luciash

xavi: i'll quickly check doc.tw.o

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luciash

xavi: is it the transparent version of the icons now there ?
img.ie6 is wrong name for class
use only ie6
xavi: also you ommited the comma on l&f > Other
xavi: test now with the doc.tw.o homepage

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sylvieg

who change the edit plugin icon?
the {} are strnage...

[13:17]

luciash

sylvieg: me
sorry, i found it better than very simmilar to page edit icon
it resembles the wiki plugin syntax
(if you can draw better one which can be easily distinguished from edit page icon, please do)

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sylvieg

and why with no {} ?

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luciash

does the editplugin helper still render the hashed strings bullshit or is it fixed already ? it does on doc.tw.o still
:-/

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luciash

sylvieg: without it i think it will be hardly visible and the meaning of the icon will be lost... pencil ? edit text ? wth ?

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xavi

back from luch. luciash: thanks. However, I see the same grey background under ie6 for linux on doc.tw.o homepage

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[13:47]

xavi

anybody knows what do this mean at the end of the Personal_Blog_and_Profile: "Dependencies: - $profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:Personal"

[13:47]

chibaguy

Doesn't seem like doc.tw.o has the latest Strasa Cold (shouldn't be a dark blue background color above the header bg image). This shows in ie6 and is really ugly.

[13:47]

xavi

I mean, I can't find a page on profiles.tw.o with that name: "Personal", but maybe I?m looking for the wrong thing
chibaguy: I agree

[13:48]

chibaguy

Look at http://zukakakina.com/tw3/ in ie6, and it's quite a bit nicer.
still not great, though.

[13:49]

xavi

btw, I tried the Personal_Blog_and_Profile as suggested by marclaporte, and I saw many weirdnesses... and I?m wondering If I can help to improve it ... a bit lost yet with complex profiles...

[13:49]

chibaguy

(oops. just noticed strasa cold needs fixing on articles' topline and subtitle)

[13:50]

marclaporte

xavi: : what are you trying to do?
Intranet is a pretty complete profile, which should demonstrate most things

[13:50]

xavi

marclaporte: ok.
I realized that homepage is not blog but a wiki page, and when logged in, blog was shown. Was that the intended behavior?

[13:51]

marclaporte

intended was for blog to be homepage
like most blogs
and to have some links (about me, etc) as wiki pages

[13:52]

xavi

chibaguy: I agree, much nicer. I get 4 blank popup boxes while changing theme to strasa.css, though (it might very well be an issue of the ie6 for linux)

[13:53]

marclaporte

luciash has a blog and that can serve as a model

[13:53]

chibaguy

xavi, sorry, but what do you mean by popup boxes?

[13:54]

luciash

marclaporte: oh ?
chibaguy: is option folder icons possible ?

[13:54]

xavi

marclaporte: where do you set the homepage to be a blog instead of wiki, in a profile?

[13:55]

luciash

xavi: you have to put custom URL

[13:55]

chibaguy

luciash, I think jonnyb said they aren't working yet.

[13:56]

luciash

chibaguy: ah, a pity

[13:56]

xavi

chibaguy: oh, well, square blank new windows, like 400 x 400: when I close one, I get another one, until four . and only when the four popup windows are closed, I get the page loaded in the background browser window

[13:56]

luciash

chibaguy: i'm playing with warm option now but maybe commit to trunk and delete from 3.0 ?
marclaporte: which blog you mean ?

[13:56]

chibaguy

luciash, well, maybe check with him; I might have not understood.

[13:57]

marclaporte

listed here: http://info.tikiwiki.org/Consultants
luciash : ^^

[13:58]

xavi

luciash: I mean, where is the custom home set in here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile

[13:58]

marclaporte

xavi: how do you set homepage to be a blog instead of wiki, in tiki admin panels?

[13:58]

nyloth

xavi: how may I reproduce your bug on calendars that displays "Events cannot end before they start" ?

[13:58]

chibaguy

about strasa warm, maybe add it in 3.1.
and delete for now.
so no risk.

[13:58]

xavi

oups, this channel is getting hot...

[13:59]

luciash

marclaporte: it's outdated and not powered by Tiki though

[13:59]

marclaporte

yes, but still an example
of what a blog can look like

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xavi

marclaporte: tiki-admin.php?page=general > Homepage > Use different URL as home page: > tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1
marclaporte: but I mean I can't see that specified in here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile
unless it's specified in the dependancies: - $profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:personal , which I can't find where are they set
nyltoh: I'll check and try to reproduce again

[14:00]

marclaporte

xavi: : when you manually change that, does Tiki give you feedback response?

[14:02]

xavi

do you have the url handy of that bug report?
marclaporte: ok, I'll try
marclaporte: yes. urlIndex

[14:02]

marclaporte

xavi: I suggest that you start with simpler things, like turning feature on & off, adding modules, setting perms, etc.
and when you can't succeed on this like this, add in !!todo at the bottom of the page

[14:02]

xavi

marclaporte: yes, ok, but where is that urlIndex set? I'm afraid I don't understand the dependancies
I mean, that url was set by the profile at install time
and when I look at the profile definition in profiles.tw.o, I can't see it specified anywhere

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[14:04]

xavi

to me, this is real tiki magic, and not that bluish horizontal admin panel :-P

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marclaporte

xavi: it's because that profile includes: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Blog

[14:05]

xavi

and what does "personal" mean, on the right of the name "blog" in the dependancies section?

[14:05]

marclaporte

The idea was that "Blog" was a mini-profile that coulde be included in many other profiles.

[14:05]

xavi

$profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:personal
anyway, ok, whatever

[14:05]

marclaporte

but maybe it would be simpler to put everything on http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile

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xavi

no, no, it's fine that include thing. I just got disoriented by the syntax, that I couldn't find any page called "personal", that's all (I thought "blog" would be some category or so)

[14:07]

nyloth

xavi: I think I've reproduced your problem. Is it really a bug or a UI problem ?

[14:09]

mib_bfhhcc

im sure this has been asked, but version 3.0 final isnt out yet correct?

[14:09]

xavi

nyloth: I don't remember.
nyloth, ok found the bug report. Reading and checking...

[14:09]

marclaporte

xavi & nyloth: calendar things: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process#Pushed_to_3.1_or_4.0

[14:10]

xavi

marclaporte: ok

[14:11]

sylvieg

xavi: multitiki for me works fine in 3

[14:11]

xavi

sylvieg: did you try with multitiki in subdiercetories?
tiki-install.php doesn't seem to cope with that patch. see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Manual+installation
sylvieg: however, I found a workaround, doing things by hand, as explained in the previous page (not finished the documentation, through)

[14:12]

sylvieg

subdirectories - what do you mean I have mysite.com/toto and mysite.com/titi woerking fine
and toto,com and titi.com working fine of course too

[14:13]

xavi

and which user and pass do you add to login to tiki-install.php?

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[14:14]

sylvieg

I used the link at the top that gives me the choice...
???

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sylvieg

I had to switch for each multikit the button at the top

[14:15]

xavi

ok, I'll try again without the Akira patch in local.php (maybe that was not needed anymore)
and maybe it was the reason for the problems.... (lack of documenation after Akira MultiTiki)
I'll try after I review the calendar issue requested by nyloth

[14:15]

sylvieg

howeer as I did not rellay access to the apache setting on on site I patch my local.php

[14:16]

xavi

nyloth, personal blog and profile doesn't have a defualt calendar created. show we make the profiler create one?
sylvieg, how do you patch your local?

[14:17]

marclaporte

sylvieg: : do you have an idea of what we should do about duplicate names in field names? In addition to tracker nanmes? Commit #18039

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sylvieg

is doc.tw workign for somebody.... I have always 3 mn dely when I post something
xavi: I posted on the forum my local.php

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xavi

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sylvieg

marclaporte: I have no idea about the behavior...

[14:24]

xavi

nyloth: ok. I see that preview loses recurrence rule. Is that right?

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[14:25]

mib_bfhhcc

would anyone recommend upgrading to 3.0 beta or waiting until the final is out first?

[14:25]

marclaporte

sylvieg: if you add two fields with the same name (within a tracker), the 1st one is deleted when you add the second

[14:25]

sylvieg

I posted on tw forum: 5mn later still not finished

[14:26]

xavi

for the second error reported, works for me nowadays, at least. I?ll update that bug report, then

[14:26]

marclaporte

mib_bfhhcc: : depends on type of project

[14:26]

mib_bfhhcc

website with a few mods

[14:26]

luciash

sylvieg: i somewhat figured it out using FF FasterFox addon or Opera :-p

[14:26]

marclaporte

mib_bfhhcc: : wanna help fix bugs? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process

[14:26]

mib_bfhhcc

marclaporte: when is 3.0 final expected to be released?

[14:26]

marclaporte

mods?
it was supposed to be yesterday

[14:26]

sylvieg

xavi http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=32786

[14:27]

luciash

articles on tw.o look much nicer now

[14:27]

marclaporte

mib_bfhhcc: : if you can report bugs and are not too pressed for time, 3.0Rc1 can be good
some features are very stable
User interface is much nicer
but still 15-20 bugs until I will be happy to release

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mib_bfhhcc

sounds great
thanks

[14:34]

mib_ukltp5

I'm wondering if 3.0 is still being planned release soon?

[14:35]

marclaporte

mib_bfhhcc: : planned for yesterday

[14:35]

mib_ukltp5

I saw this link http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki3 suggesting tiki 3.0 is supposed to be released yesterday, but so far nothing.
I'm not trying to be rude or put pressure, but just wondering... ;)
is it still planned to be released next few days or should I just install 2.4?

[14:35]

xavi

mib_ukltp5: hopefully in the following days, at the most , if not earlier (my bet)
mib_ukltp5: but you can start learning with 2.4. After a while, you upgrade, and that's it

[14:38]

mib_ukltp5

true.... are there major interface changes between 2 and 3?

[14:39]

xavi

sylvieg: if ($_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] == "toto.com" ) does it allow slashes for:
if ($_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] == "toto.com/site1" )
for instance?

[14:39]

sylvieg

perhaps ... you can try

[14:40]

xavi

ok, I will

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marclaporte

mib_bfhhcc: page updated: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki%203.0&redirectpage=tiki3

[14:40]

xavi

I mean you said on irc it worked to you also with domain.com/site1 doamin.com/site2

[14:41]

nyloth: updated http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2348

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xavi

marclaporte: with Personal Blog and Profile, I can see this "<<<<<<< .mine ======= >>>>>>> .r18410 " in the blog, below permalink. Is tha a known bug?

[14:50]

luciash

xavi: it's conflict diff

[14:51]

xavi

ok, I start from scratch again, just in case
thanks luciash for the info
btw, luciash, I need from your png expertise again.
I did create new icons in png for odt file types (and others)
but they are not shown up by tiki
can I send you two files so that you can best find out what I'm doing wrong with my modified png?)
"send 2 png's": 1 for original png working fine in tiki, the 2nd for my new png not being shoen

[14:52]

luciash

hmm, lets try

[14:54]

xavi

ok, skype?

[14:55]

luciash

what you prefer

[14:55]

xavi

yes, as earlier today, then

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marclaporte

xavi: : yes, Matthew has been informed

[14:57]

xavi

luciash, no problem. I see that inkscape doesn't work like gimp! changing extension at save time doesn't change image format1
marclaporte: ok, thanks
luciash: it's probably this. I'll fix later (after I try the multitiki hint from sylvieg right now)

[14:57]

luciash

xavi, yep, see http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/File-Export.html#File-Export-PNG

[14:59]

xavi

yes, yes, I know. I've been exporting as png today many files....
but some days ago, I didn't export them to make png's, I came from the gimp world, and made the confusion
:-/
xavi is slowly learning....
xavi remembers the "go tutle, go!" effect from a couple of years ago....
s/tutle/turtle

[14:59]

nyloth

back
xavi: Thanx. When you create a recurrent event, for example "every monday" between two dates (let say 1st May to 20th of May), and then choose a start hour that is higher than the ending hour, then there is a message "Events cannot end before they start"
nyloth: ...even if the starting and ending dates shown just before the hours are not the same day
s/nyloth/xavi/ ;)
xavi: ... but this is normal if you consider that those dates are not used in recurrence mode (even if they are shown)
xavi: ... because dates are already choosed in the recurrence rule
xavi: so, it's not really a bug, but more an UI problem
xavi: I think we just have to hide dates that are on the same lines as hours when using reccurence
xavi: And I confirm there is also another problem with the preview mode
xavi: I'll fix those two things

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xavi

ok, nyloth
thkx

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marclaporte

nyloth: if you have time today, no one else volunteered for some of the things we discussed...

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nyloth

marclaporte: which in particular ? I fixed XSS and am working on calendars. I will also commit a fix for the section edit on homepage

[15:27]

marclaporte

fix for the section edit on homepage -> is that the TR thing?

[15:28]

nyloth

marclaporte: yes
marclaporte: a fix just for you ;p

[15:29]

marclaporte

yes, that's very important. Thank you!
There is another problem. I think one thing is causing multiple bug report issues.

[15:30]

nyloth

you're welcome :) Well.. I'll commit it right now so you can test. I'll return to calendar code just after
there are plenty of problems you know :)

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valueb

I just changed my wiki theme, and now my entire website isn't displaying. The theme was 'akwa' I believe. Any way to revert to another theme so I can see the site once again?

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marclaporte

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug -> if IE> > is added

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xavi

nyloth and marclaporte, fyi: on personal blog profile, first time I edit the homepaeg, and click on the "add another image" button (http://localhost/tiki3svn/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?filegals_manager=editwiki) , the pop up window shows up with black bg.

[15:34]

nyloth

xavi: style issue I suppose, no ?

[15:34]

xavi

it happened to me yesterday, and reproduced again on new install today
yes, I guess so.

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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18436 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold/cold.png: [FIX] Updated theme thumbnail to match theme appearance changes.

[15:35]

nyloth

maybe chibaguy can have a look at it ?

[15:35]

xavi

and when I click on "upload file" in that screen, then everything keeps going with strasa.css theme as usual
yes, I didn't mean you, it was just a FYI :-)

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tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18437 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] french translations

[15:35]

nyloth

marclaporte: I also fixed the french problem for "Look & Feel"

[15:36]

xavi

I know you have put lots of time and care in file gals, and that's why

[15:36]

marclaporte

nyloth: : yay!

[15:36]

luciash

xavi: it's missing background color properties for that type of page

[15:36]

nyloth

xavi: ok :)

[15:36]

luciash

should be easy to fix

[15:36]

chibaguy

valueb, you can change the theme preference by using phpMyAdmin to edit the tiki_preferences table of your database.

[15:37]

xavi

xavi is still fixing the new png icons

[15:37]

chibaguy

hmm, is there an easier way, I wonder...

[15:38]

xavi

luciash, how do you set the white bg information in inkscape? (I'm getting black bg when shown in http://localhost/tiki3svn/tiki-upload_file.php?filegals_manager=editwiki , when just uploaded to the file gallery)

[15:40]

chibaguy

valueb, what tiki version are you using?

[15:40]

valueb

2.4
just upgraded a few hours ago

[15:41]

chibaguy

akwa has its own versions of template files that aren't compatible with 2.4.

[15:41]

xavi

valueb: have you read the proper http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade page for 2.x to 3.x?

[15:42]

chibaguy

you can also try using ftp or some other tool to remove the files in templates/styles/akwa/.
Then your site will use the default template files and it may be ugly due to still using akwa.css, but at least it should display, I think.

[15:42]

luciash

xavi: file > document props > slide the bg color transparency to fully opaque

[15:43]

valueb

xavi: yes i believe i did it correctly

[15:43]

luciash

xavi: it's limitation of gd that it shows black bg

[15:43]

valueb

i actually upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 though

[15:44]

xavi

valueb: ah, ok. just checking. keep in mind that there are many changes in the way themes work in 3.0 when you plan to upgrade

[15:44]

chibaguy

I'd get rid of the akwa template files first.

[15:44]

xavi

luciash: ok, thanks

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18438 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: fix to have white background in every body (file galleries popup)

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[15:45]

xavi

thanks luciash! (white bg in file gal popup)

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[15:51]

xavi

luciash, and that thuingy about sharp edges?
is this something I should do now? (I'm going to produce 10+ new png's in the following minutes)

[15:54]

luciash

jaggy edges ? nope, it's not produced by inkscape but by some process u used later or they were only the jpegs previews that ugly

[15:55]

xavi

ok
xavi now understands why the icons where different between the png and svg counterparts

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tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18439 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_miniquiz.php: [FIX] Mass-correct typo (thanks Marc)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18440 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold.css: [FIX] Bad contrast in Strasa Cold due to missing bg image (path not updated).

[15:59]

tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18441 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] calendars: do not display starting day and ending day when "reccurence"
tikiwiki: checkbox is checked, because they are not used/relevant in this situation and
tikiwiki: may confuse users + also fix the hide/show of "end duration" vs "end day" when
tikiwiki: clicking on the "duration" link. (thx xavi for reporting the problem)

[16:08]

xavi

nyloth: a pleasure to help to have it fixed :-)

[16:09]

nyloth

:)
xavi: I need to fix preview too, but a bit later. Now I need to catch a train :) see you later

[16:10]

marclaporte

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Report+a+Bug -> anyone have any idea about "if IE>
>"

[16:10]

Sug4r

Error: No closing quotation

[16:10]

xavi

ok, see you
thanks Sug4r :-)

[16:10]

nyloth

marclaporte: send a mail to the list, if important. I'm a bit overloaded :)

[16:11]

marclaporte

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[16:11]

xavi

luciash: finally it worked! new icons for ODF file types show up nice in FF and IE6 :-)
plus many more file types
.svg, .ogm, .ogv, ...
since for me this is part of a usability bug in 3.0 (they seem to be uploaded unsuccessfully with that rare/unclassified icon), I'll commit to 3.0

[16:13]

luciash

xavi: cool

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18442 10/branches/3.0/ (pics/help_icon.png templates/tiki-show_help.tpl): [FIX] big help icon: xhtml fixes + added missing alt and title attribute to give a hint what it is on hover, better matching icon for help from the jini iconset

[16:17]

luciash

btw, if you feel the crystal iconset icon was better before i can rollback
*before was better

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tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18443 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/ (abw.png htm.png html.png rtf.png sxw.png xml.png): [FIX]usability bug: added missing pen from 'editable document' icons

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tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18444 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/ (20 files):
tikiwiki: [FIX]Added my own version of the bigger ODF icons for the file galleries in .svg
tikiwiki: and .png, similar to current icons in the same folder, and with the promoted ODF
tikiwiki: icon on them from Pete Harlow. Plus many more extra icons for missing but
tikiwiki: relatively common file types
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18445 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/doc.png: [FIX]usability bug: added missing pen from 'editable document' icons. Forgot .doc previously
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18446 10/branches/3.0/pics/icons/mime/ (13 files):
tikiwiki: [FIX]Usability bug: Adding new 16x16 icons for the ODF mime types, from Pete
tikiwiki: Harlow: "Permission to use and/or modify these images is granted for the
tikiwiki: identification and promotion of the OpenDocument Format (ISO 26300 and any later
tikiwiki: version published by OASIS or ISO) provided you acknowledge me, Pete Harlow, if
tikiwiki: someone asks." http://opendocumentfellowship.com/icons

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[16:30]

xavi

hi rodrigo_sampaio and rodrigo_sampaio1 :-)

[16:30]

rodrigo_sampaio1

hey xavi

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[16:31]

sylvieg

I can not search for a page with ':' in list pages...

[16:32]

xavi

xavi is fascinated to see how fast rodrigo_sampaio reproduces :-)
s/reproduces/gets reproduced

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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18447 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]liat pages: to be able to find a page with a :

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tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18448 10/trunk/lib/images/icons/ (17 files): [FIX] Replace previous broken .png with valid ones and whitebg instead of transparent to avoid issues with ie6 browsers
tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18449 10/branches/3.0/templates/styles/strasa/tiki-view_blog.tpl: [FIX] fixed div tag missmatch and resolved snv conflict
tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r18450 10/trunk/doc/devtools/release.php: [FIX] replace readline() func

[17:02]

luciash

huh, i thought it's fixed already since my commit

[17:07]

MatWho

i committed over the top by mistake

[17:08]

xavi

luciash, quote plugin in strasa.css is missing. should we add something from another theme like thenews.css?

[17:11]

luciash

xavi: +1
MatWho: ah, ok

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tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18451 10/branches/3.0/ (lang/ca/language.php templates/tiki-mods.tpl): [FIX] correct spelling and placing of {tr} tags

[17:12]

xavi

Jyhem: thanks! (I already saw oddities there days ago...) :-)
mmmm, any svn guru?: should I worry if svn just says "G" (merged) my partially upgraded locally language.php file with the copy from svn?
I mean, do svn merges on "svn up" work well for you?

[17:14]

rodrigo_sampaio

hey
i'm migrating an old tiki farm (with more than 30 tikis :)) from version 1.9.11 to version 2.4. until now i've found two sql issues during the migration. one related with the change of permissions in file and image galleries and other related with the user_flip_modules preference. i would like to know if there is any use if i commit the fixes to those issues to tiki_1.9to2.0.sql?

[17:24]

marclaporte

everyone: very good to see all the commits coming in!

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tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18452 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [ENH] added a clearer quote plugin specification, from thenews.css

[17:25]

marclaporte

rodrigo_sampaio: : nice to see you upgrading. You should do a test to 3.0 and fix bugs!

[17:25]

rodrigo_sampaio

marclaporte: im planning to migrate this farm from 2.4 to 3.0 but first we have to make sure everything is ok with ours sites on 2.4

[17:25]

marclaporte

rodrigo_sampaio: : what is consequence for users?

[17:25]

xavi

rodrigo_sampaio: +1 for fixing on 2.x. you never know if a 2.5 will be released, before 4.0 is born :-)

[17:26]

marclaporte

I would say yes, but I am very surprised no one found before. I have a ton of sites that will move from 1.9 to 3.0
3.0 should be able to handle an upgrade from 1.9.x too

[17:26]

xavi

marclaporte: from 1.9 to 3.0 going first through 2.4, I guess, isn't it?

[17:26]

marclaporte

I'd rather not
I think 3.0 should be able to cope
( I am not sure if this is the case, but I hope so)

[17:27]

xavi

:-) oh well, if you succeed, request anyone if not yourself to document your success case in doc.tw.o (I recently documented as id 2.x was needed before 3.0)

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[17:28]

rodrigo_sampaio

marclaporte: yeah, I'm also surprised that no one found this before especially the issue with file and image galleries. on my sites the user gets a permission denied when trying to access the image or file gallery home. this because in tiki 2 we check for a new permission (tiki_p_list_file_galleries or tiki_p_list_image_galleries) and the migration script create this perm but does not assign then to the users who have the old permission

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[17:29]

marclaporte

rodrigo_sampaio: : I would check with Quality Team
yay for Tikibot!

[17:31]

rodrigo_sampaio

marclaporte: i can send an email to devel list explaining the issue and asking for some feedback to confirm if this only a problem with my tiki farm or if it is a bug

[17:33]

marclaporte

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Quality%20Team
rodrigo_sampaio: : +1
farms are great because you can detect problems
3.0 contains tiki_1.8to1.9.sql to maybe it can support upgrade

[17:33]

luminoso

any devs here?
unzip feature have utf8 broken on 3.0rc1

[17:48]

xavi

luminoso: add it to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process

[17:49]

luminoso

ok
this page is a lot confusing
lol

[17:49]

xavi

luminoso: maybe here "Deal with it now, or it'll just be more painful later"

[17:50]

luminoso

lol

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xavi

luminoso: yes, it's a work in progress (hot page), many people editting it in a quick & dirty way, but it works (easy editting of many things of different importance and urgency, etc.)

[17:53]

luminoso

i'm new on this
using tw since 3.0beta1

[17:53]

xavi

luminoso: welcome on board, then! :-)

[17:54]

luminoso

:-)

[17:54]

xavi

if you want to help in the core of the debugging process before a big release, you are 1-step away from doing it in the same place as many of the developpers pushing tiki3 to its birth as stable :-)
anybody knows if you can create a symlink through ftp???

[17:55]

luminoso

xavi, bug added
thank you

[17:57]

xavi

thanks to you
luminoso, in fact, the best way would be to add a bug report in dev.tw.o, and link it to that page, specially if you are not going to follow the evolution of that page... or specially for things that can be pushed away for 3.1 or 4.0
fyi

[17:57]

marclaporte

luminoso: : what is unzip feature?

[18:02]

luminoso

when you upload to file galleries
you can zip a lot of files
and tikiwki unzip them for you

[18:04]

marclaporte

I see. Do you know if it's been reported before?
what does utf8 have to do with this?

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18453 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] improved visibility of the help icon, made it using smarty icon function so it can be themed, better position of the icon for strasa theme

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[18:09]

luminoso

marclaporte, because it's only utf8 characters that fails to be parsed by tikiwiki
example "o marclaporte est� armado em espertinha�o"

[18:14]

marclaporte

in the name of the file?

[18:15]

luminoso

will result in: "o marlaporte est? armado em espertinha?o"
yes

[18:15]

marclaporte

not content

[18:15]

luminoso

is the content of the zip file, that is unziped by tikiwiki

[18:16]

marclaporte

[18:16]

luminoso

also. even if i try to correct it on proprities
it fails

[18:16]

xavi

marclaporte: fyi: "The installer could not connect to the Profiles repository." in a local install

[18:16]

luminoso

and don't change the name at all

[18:16]

marclaporte

please add to dev list and tag http://dev.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery and http://dev.tikiwiki.org/i18n

[18:16]

luminoso

marclaporte, are you talking to me or xavi ?

[18:16]

xavi

luminoso: to you

[18:17]

luminoso

(brb dinner)

[18:17]

xavi

confirmed: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org doesn't load to me

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[18:18]

wikitikiinfo

hi guys !

[18:18]

xavi

hi wikitikiinfo

[18:18]

wikitikiinfo

yesterday i have the problem with the website i tell..
i change to an other server..
the problem is fixes now.

[18:19]

xavi

congrats. wikitikiinfo
marclaporte is gone. error 500 on profiles.tikiwiki.org

[18:19]

wikitikiinfo

it was easy. i only must change the permisson from the tiki-install.php to 644 and run also the fix...sh .
on profiles.tiki ups..
i must also change the temp file in the php.ini
that was also wrong

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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18454 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: height of the helper

[18:22]

wikitikiinfo

and on the last database setup i miss the users entry in it. so i make inside the php admin a new backup and take it to the new server
and after that, i can run WITHOUT the tiki-install.php the normal tiki portal entry
ALL worked. without killing the lok file and without run again installer..
oh i forget .. the database entrys.. its clear also to change that ones...
how can i change the wide from a theme file? it fits for now not in the browser when i have an computer in 1280x1024

[18:22]

xavi

wikitikiinfo: install the webdeveloper toolbar in firefox, and play/test editing the css file on the fly to suit your needs

[18:30]

wikitikiinfo

i use fluidindex.css as skin and the wikis are sometimes to wide. and also the admin menue are hangs over
ok. i hear one time from this one.

[18:30]

xavi

play with "CSS > View Style information", and "CSS > Edit css". Web developer toolbar is a grat addon
wikitikiinfo: and if you can, please, document it somewhere in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation if ot documented already
s/ot/not
s/grat/great

[18:31]

wikitikiinfo

ok. maybe someone should also make a page for the server change

[18:32]

xavi

ok, profiles.tikiwiki.org is back online
"someone" :-) you are welcome...

[18:32]

wikitikiinfo

..haha not here..
profiles. was online here..
i will try to document. but on one site i read i must run installer again and something...
i think it is also interesting for people to have an standard php.ini file
speacial or tiki wiki done
and also on the download site

[18:32]

xavi

sylvieg: your trick at local.php for multitiki works also for the case with sites in subdirectories...

[18:38]

wikitikiinfo

i read many times, you should change the memory to 32 mb and do this and do that..

[18:38]

xavi

xavi takes his hat off in front of sylvie and shows again all his respect to her wisdom
it took me "a little while" to test but yes, it works fine (much better than the old "Akira" trick)

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xavi

marclaporte: why not all plugins enabled by default? (since they are safe nowadays)
and let the admin disable the ones he/she wants to disable, after he/she knows about them, and not the other way round...

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valueb

what is the syntax to create side by side tables on a wiki page? like this: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php

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xavi

valueb: use the split plugin
search for it under the list of plugins

[18:52]

ricks99

in 3.0, new install, barebones profile... wiki uses file gallery for images, but no gallery exists. therefore, user gets an error when tyring to upload a new picture. told to create a gallery first (but in the middle of editing a wiki page) :(
should there be a default gallary?

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tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r18455 10/trunk/lib/core/test/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: - a couple of bugs solved, a couple of new acceptance tests
tikiwiki: - tests work only if selenium doesn't reuse browser sessions (db seems to be cached); refresh didn't work well, need to find why.

[18:55]

ricks99

* rick likes the new Edit Help icon, but questions the text "HELP" and flashing arrow....

[18:56]

xavi

ricks99: +1 for this, aswell as +1 for creating a default calendar (for the same reason; I tried under blog profile)

[18:57]

ricks99

or... simply do not enable the "use file gallery for images" option.
for default, new install
btw, all devs: my 1.10 -> 3.0 upgrade was very smooth
tx 2 all :)

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valueb

xavi: is the split plugin called something else in the mods? i have v2.4 btw

[19:02]

xavi

mods?
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Plugins <- search here
no need for mods for the split plugin

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ricks99

docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginsplit

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xavi

enough for today. I?ve updated the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Manual+Installation page with the multitiki info
cheers

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tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18456 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.add_help.php: [FIX] smarty block add_help: give filepath for function icon. This filepath is required when the user is anonymous

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tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18457 10/branches/3.0/changelog.txt: [FIX] changelog: fix release script name

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nyloth

back for a few minutes
trying to commit on sf
its madly slow
:(
ah, commit passed :)

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tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18458 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] calendars: fix recurrence in preview mode (thx xavi for reporting)

[20:28]

nyloth

so, good night all

[20:28]

sylvieg

sylvieg is in a bad day - each bug I tried to fix - I did not find it ......
thx nylioth

[20:28]

nyloth

sylvieg: take a break then :)
bye bye

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I thought that validation while previewing was fixed

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tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18459 10/branches/3.0/lib/searchlib.php: [FIX] find_faqs: fix the sql query which was broken. This should fix the problem of the anonymous users who are doing a search and are asked for a login/password (relase30 blocker)

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sylvieg

pkdille was faster than me ... I was on it but did not have time to finish

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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18460 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: the module must always display a month

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pkdille

hello sylvie

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sylvieg

thx pkdille - I was on the bug and forgot it...

[22:05]

pkdille

I hope you did not too much work on that bug..

[22:05]

sylvieg

oh no - I know it was in faq...

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pkdille

yep..was not so easy....

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sylvieg

ah this was the fix?

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pkdille

...had first to fix another bug which was introduced today :-(
yes, I think so
...if you can test, would be nice....here, it seems ok (on 2 different test sites)
so, it's time for me
...good night all :-)

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sylvieg

thx pkdille a svn up fix my [problem
nice drems
dreams

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pkdille

cool !
bye

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