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[00:44] <marclaporte> http://tikiwiki.org/Promo+Sheet  -> file plugin doesn't work, unless I don't know how to use
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[00:56] <lindon_> marclaporte: there's a nice doc page on it
[00:56] <lindon_> ;>)
[00:56] <lindon_> pluginfile is the page
[00:57] <luciash> >doctwo PluginFile
[00:57] <Sug4r> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginFile
[00:57] <lindon_> but i think it's redundant
[00:57] <luciash> :)
[00:57] <lindon_> pluginattach does the same thing but better
[00:58] <lindon_> except that it needs a tiny fix
[00:58] <lindon_> which i've posted here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2475
[00:58] <lindon_> because i don't know how to commit
[01:03] <luciash> i can patch it and commit, just a note: we use xhtml, so it must produce <br />, not <br>
[01:04] <lindon_> excellent, thank you!
[01:04] <lindon_> and thanks for tip on xhtml
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[01:19] <marclaporte> ricks99: tks 
[01:20] <ricks99> more on its way....
[01:22] <ricks99> ack!!!!!
[01:22] <ricks99> i just lost my comment!
[01:22] <ricks99> is this a 3.0 feature?
[01:23] <ricks99> wtf!
[01:25] <marclaporte> huh?
[01:25] <marclaporte> conflict?
[01:26] <ricks99> i was in the midst of posting a *comment*....
[01:26] <ricks99> got notification that you were editing the page...
[01:26] <ricks99> selected to ignore and continue with my comment...
[01:26] <ricks99> page refreshed and comment was lost :(
[01:29] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18559 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_attach.php: [FIX] attach wikiplugin: "applied" http://dev.tikiwiki.org/patch2475 (thanks to lindon)
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[01:31] <lindon_> yay! thanks again luci :>)
[01:32] <luciash> lindon_: just one glitch... in the commit message i used patch2475 but too late i realized the rewrite rule on the server doesn't have this like for bug or item ;)
[01:33] <luciash> will have to ask amette ;)
[01:34] <lindon_> okay
[01:34] <lindon_> really appreciate it
[01:42] <lindon_> going to the movies...bye!
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[02:16] <btiffin> marclaporte, Are you in Ottawa for the TikiFest?  I'm going to try my darnedest to show up at the Code Factory.  I really really look forward to meeting some of the Tikieans
[02:17] <marclaporte> yes
[02:17] <marclaporte> I am going to Ottawa early tomorrow morning
[02:17] <marclaporte> I look forward to meeting you
[02:18] <btiffin> Very cool.  I've got to worry about Daycare pick up times.  I'll try and recycle back downtown after the supper hour, then as much of the weekend as the family will let me get away with.  ;)
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[03:30] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: What does "Show in popup box" in Calendar admin do? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=32915
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[05:17] <vkumar1> Hi everybody
[05:19] <vkumar1> hi luciash
[05:21] <vkumar1> I saw your name in few of the TPL files.. have you devoloped those files ??
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[08:21] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Import from other applications - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=32918
[08:50] <LordVan> hi
[08:50] <LordVan> question: with tiki 3.0 svn from a couple of days ago i get a strange screen when deleting a forum topic / post
[08:50] <LordVan> it just says as a 'title' press here to delete and then on the button the same ..
[08:51] <LordVan> I would've expected it to show the actual post / theme title
[08:51] <LordVan> i was wondering if that was only on the german translation
[08:53] <chibaguy> LordVan, so you click the 'X', and then the page displays something like "click here to confirm your action" (this is English version) ?
[08:54] <LordVan> hmm i gotta check out german it seems odd ot me
[08:54] <chibaguy> Anyway, that's how it is in english to delete a post. On the confirm page, there's no post title, just the simple statement.
[08:56] <LordVan> ok
[08:56] <LordVan> i was just thinking post title would be nice to make sure one got correct item to del
[08:57] <chibaguy> yeah, that makes sense.
[08:57] <LordVan> i wonder how much work that would be - prolly not a lot
[08:57] * LordVan doesn'T know much about tiki code (yet)
[08:58] <chibaguy> right, but at this stage of tiki 3, it's probably too late.
[08:58] <chibaguy> could go into trunk and either be in tiki 4 or else in a tiki 3.1 or so.
[08:59] <LordVan> chibaguy, well as i said i duno .. it depends if at that stage it only got the post id or got more info and it woudl just be like 1 line to display the title ;)
[09:00] <chibaguy> yes, but the philosophy right now is only essential fixes for tiki 3.
[09:00] <LordVan> yeah i understand that of coruse ;)
[09:03] <chibaguy> To remove a wiki page, you get a message like "Remove page: Sample_page". So the same could/should be done for posts, etc.
[09:04] <chibaguy> would be a little nicer/safer.
[09:04] <LordVan> yes
[09:04] <LordVan> definitely ;)
[09:06] <chibaguy> Do you want to add it as a feature request at dev.tikiwiki.org ?
[09:07] <LordVan> might as well yeah
[09:28] <LordVan> brb
[09:31] <luciash> hi chibaguy
[09:33] <chibaguy> hi luciash
[09:33] <chibaguy> thanks for the strasa blog fix
[09:35] <luciash> np, reindenting helped and then i used web developer's validate local HTML function and search function of Eclipse to count "<div" and "</div" if they match ;)
[09:35] <luciash> wow, lunch here already (and i just woke up :-p)
[09:37] <luciash> ok, my reply to nyloth must wait :) but i'm of course in favor of getting rid of custom tpl files for themes in Tiki distribution as much as possible... only blocker is it requires a lot of brainstorming ;)
[09:37] <luciash> bbl
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[09:45] <jonnyb> polom
[09:55] <chibaguy> hi jonnyb
[09:56] <jonnyb> hi chibaguy 
[09:57] <chibaguy> how was the snorkeling?
[10:00] <jonnyb> hmmm
[10:00] <jonnyb> too chilly ;)
[10:00] <jonnyb> stayed in the bar! :))
[10:02] <luciash> re-polom
[10:02] <luciash> wb jonnyb ! :)
[10:03] <jonnyb> thanks luciash - how is tiki? (600 emails in one week - must admit i didn't read them all!)
[10:03] <jonnyb> still on RC1?
[10:03] <luciash> yep
[10:04] <jonnyb> i looked at the blockers list, but found it had to pick what needs doing
[10:05] <luciash> tonight i was playing with accordion again trying to apply it to tiki-show_help.tpl when jquery and jquery-ui enabled which could significantly improve usability especially in strasa theme but i failed :-p
[10:05] <luciash> it didn't work as expected at all
[10:05] <jonnyb> :(
[10:06] <luciash> i was trying to use the option fillSpace: true but couldn't figure it out
[10:06] <luciash> it was doing everything else but not the nice accordion there ;)
[10:07] <jonnyb> that help thing is quite weird anyway...
[10:07] <luciash> while you were snorkeling i was improving it a bit
[10:07] <luciash> mainly for strasa
[10:07] <jonnyb> i saw some commits
[10:08] <jonnyb> phone - 2 mins
[10:08] <luciash> in conjunction with shadowbox
[10:08] <luciash> ok
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[10:21] <vkumar> hi gary.. hows the day ??
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[10:28] <chibaguy> hi vkumar. I'm ok. It's cloudy and rainy here in chiba, japan. :-)
[10:29] <vkumar> ok.. is it just today .. or it is rainy season now ??
[10:29] <jonnyb> luciash: got your mail, will check it out
[10:31] <chibaguy> It isn't rainy season (that's usually in June and July). Just a few rainy days from time to time, now.
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[10:34] <vkumar> oh.. ok great.. i visited the chat.. at 8.30 indian time ( before 8 hours ).. could'nt  find you here.. 
[10:34] <chibaguy> yeah, was outside, earlier.
[10:35] <chibaguy> on another topic, I upgraded a site to current 3.0 svn and there is a "missing image" icon where the site logo should be. 
[10:36] <vkumar> was it after the upgrade ?
[10:36] <chibaguy> This doesn't usually happen when there's no logo. Maybe because the logo alt text and title are input on look and feel admin, but the logo img source isn't specified.
[10:37] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18560 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] use the same edist section icon
[10:37] <chibaguy> Yes, I think if there is no logo image path indicated, and also no alt text or title, then there's no missing image icon up there.
[10:37] <chibaguy> (this is in opera, that I'm using now).
[10:38] <chibaguy> So I think if there's to be no logo on install, then also there should be no alt text or title text.
[10:38] <chibaguy> Of course this is an upgrade, not fresh install, so maybe I'm seeing the effects of what the site had earlier - I can't remember now what was input.
[10:38] <chibaguy> So anyway, maybe just something to keep an eye on.
[10:39] * chibaguy takes a deep breath ;-)
[10:39] <vkumar> I have not tried an upgrade yet.. still using 2.3
[10:40] <chibaguy> ah ok. for live sites other than testing, I'm also using 2.3 or so.
[10:40] <chibaguy> (also I see the "jump to content" link at this test site, which is strange.)
[10:42] <vkumar> I think, I also saw something which says jump to content when I was playing around with styles in the templates folder
[10:43] <vkumar> i jumped out immedietly.. as i was looking for something else
[10:43] <chibaguy> yes, that link is for better accessibility by screen readers, etc., and should not display visibly on the screen.
[10:43] <vkumar> :)
[10:43] <chibaguy> it should be hidden offscreen by css large negative margin.
[10:44] <vkumar> Gary, I have a doubt here
[10:45] <vkumar> I copied my homepage content to a a file and saved it .tpl in the templates folder. then I creted a php file and smaty assign to Mid
[10:47] <vkumar> then I smarty display tiki.tpl
[10:47] <vkumar> now I see a padding before the content
[10:47] <vkumar> i don't know from where it is comming
[10:47] <vkumar> any idea
[10:48] <chibaguy> why don't you install the FireBug add-on for Firefox, if you didn't already.
[10:48] <vkumar> i have this issue in IE7
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[10:48] <chibaguy> ah, but not in Firefox?
[10:49] <vkumar> it's not an issue.. a padding which does not exist in the content
[10:49] <vkumar> same thing in firefox
[10:51] <vkumar> what is firebug addon by the way
[10:52] <chibaguy> it's a free tool that can be installed in Firefox and adds extra functions to the browser, for web development. very handy.
[10:52] <LordVan> developer toolbar is nice too
[10:52] <chibaguy> right, that also.
[10:52] <LordVan> hmm weird i thought i had an account on tikiwiki.org already .. hmm
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[10:54] <KingAztech> Hi
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[10:54] <vkumar> oh ok.. i will check that out
[10:54] <KingAztech> How can i make it that a module for example List_blog_post  can be seen by everyone?
[10:54] <KingAztech> right now only registered people can see it even though i selected anonymous too
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[10:55] <chibaguy> hmm, that should work as you set it.
[10:56] <vkumar> ok... I think i need to dig more into the stylesheet.. 
[10:57] <chibaguy> vkumar, your approach on the theme-making seems a little difficult to me...
[10:58] <vkumar> no.. i think differently.. like a fool
[10:58] <vkumar>  :)
[10:58] <chibaguy> how about not making a new .tpl, and just using a wiki page or whatever for your site content? 
[10:58] <chibaguy> And style the new .css file to match your old site?
[10:58] <chibaguy> I mean to match the html template?
[11:01] <vkumar> ya .. i think i tried that earlier.. but at that time.. i had some issues with the margins of wiki page and other pages
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[11:01] <vkumar> and also the fonts used on wiki pages were different
[11:02] <chibaguy> well, it's good to try different ways.
[11:02] <vkumar> if i try the tpl way i can show the content in the mid just like any other tiki page
[11:03] <vkumar> example tiki-forums
[11:04] <chibaguy> ok
[11:04] <vkumar> ok gary bye.. will get back.. time to leave
[11:04] <vkumar> thanks for your time
[11:05] <chibaguy> ok, cya later.
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[11:06] <LordVan> cu ppl
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[11:08] <chibaguy> looks like at my test site, the templates didn't all get overwritten, which is why the jumplinks are showing.
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[11:16] <KingAztech> anyone able to help me out?
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[11:25] <ricks99> ping: any word on 3.0?
[11:26] <jonnyb> pong
[11:26] <ricks99> hi jonnyb
[11:26] <jonnyb> i'm still trying to work out what the real blockers are - hi ricks99 
[11:27] <ricks99> 3.0 slated for... ?? soon?
[11:27] <jonnyb> 3rd May? :))
[11:27] <ricks99> 2010?
[11:27] <ricks99> ;-)
[11:27] <jonnyb> that would be 5.0, surely?
[11:30] <ricks99> surely
[11:32] <chibaguy> KingAztech, can you try another module?
[11:32] <chibaguy> Also try clearing your browser cache to see if it makes a difference.
[11:33] <chibaguy> 3.0 is supposed to be released this weekend sometime, isn't it? 
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[11:34] <jonnyb> KingAztech: also try clearing all caches on tiki-admin_system.php (on admin menu)
[11:36] <KingAztech> mmm
[11:36] <KingAztech> chibaguy: clearing cache didn't work
[11:37] <jonnyb> which version are you on KingAztech ?
[11:37] <KingAztech> how can i check? i installed it through cpanel
[11:38] <ricks99> @KingAztech: it is not enough to simply assign the module to "anonymous" -- you must give the Anonymous group permission to use the specific feature (blogs).
[11:38] <KingAztech> ooh
[11:38] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18561 10/branches/3.0/templates/modules/mod-switch_lang.tpl: [FIX] Changed Smarty var $name to $langname (fixes conflict with file gal edit, possibly others)
[11:39] <ricks99> pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/permission
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[11:43] <KingAztech> that worked ricks99, thanks!
[11:43] <jonnyb> hi MatWho 
[11:44] <ricks99> yw
[11:44] <ricks99> @KingAztech: more help http://twbasics.keycontent.org
[11:44] <ricks99> :)
[11:45] <MatWho> hi
[11:45] <chibaguy>  ah, here's a likely problem for site upgrades to 3.0 : previously there was a tiki.tpl in templates/thenews/ . In 3.0, the default tiki.tpl is used of course, but...
[11:46] <chibaguy> ...the site will use the /thenews/tiki.tpl instead unless is manually deleted.
[11:46] <chibaguy> worse, there's a header.tpl there also.
[11:46] <jonnyb> The curse of style templates!
[11:47] <chibaguy> I was wondering why some strange appearance after upgrading a site that hadn't been touched in a while.
[11:47] <chibaguy> heh. true
[11:47] <jonnyb> hmmm,  that's a nasty one - any other old styles still with us? darkroom?
[11:48] <jonnyb> i suppose we could add tpls that just include the right one - not great...
[11:51] <chibaguy> maybe, I'll check.
[11:52] <ricks99> doc admin: there's a lot of freetags on doc.tw.o with zero objects, but I can't seem to remove them :(
[11:52] <chibaguy> darkroom, feb12, tikinewt...
[11:52] <ricks99> 'remove unused tags' does nothing :(
[11:53] <jonnyb> i suspect freetags are somewhat neglected, ricks99 - not seen any commits on them for ages
[11:53] <chibaguy> simple theme, too.
[11:54] <ricks99> they work on my 2.x site. im able to remove tags with zero objects
[11:58] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18562 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: notice
[12:02] <chibaguy> I think there needs to be docs on upgrading that say "to be safe, remove all old theme templates"....
[12:02] <chibaguy> or, at minimum, all old tiki.tpl and header.tpl files.
[12:03] <ricks99> could we simply supply "blank" tpls? this way there's no need to rely on the user to actually do anything (much safer)
[12:03] <chibaguy> yeah, that'd work for known themes
[12:03] <jonnyb> hmmm, sounds safest chibaguy 
[12:03] <chibaguy> otoh, do you want to be distributing a bunch of blank files.
[12:03] <chibaguy> ?
[12:04] <jonnyb> blank tpls sounds kludgy
[12:04] <ricks99> we're already distributing the file, right? this is just the 3.0 version of it
[12:04] <ricks99> maybe kludgy, but (IMHO) *much* safer than adding a not in the docs
[12:04] <chibaguy> but the idea was to reduce tpl files, even blank ones ;-)
[12:05] <ricks99> which templates are 'supported' for 3.0? only supply 'blanks' for those
[12:05] <jonnyb> ideally the installer should spot them, and make the user delete them
[12:06] <ricks99> ... and delete them automatically
[12:06] <chibaguy> afaik, the installer doesn't touch the tpls.
[12:06] <chibaguy> or have awareness of them
[12:06] <jonnyb> i never like the words "delete" and "automatically" in the same sentance
[12:06] <ricks99> if we're relying on the use to do *anything*, it usually won't happen (just my $0.02)
[12:07] <chibaguy> true, jonnyb, the user could be a sharp person who has his/her own 3.0compatible theme-specific tpls.
[12:07] <chibaguy> albeit misguided.... ;-)
[12:08] <jonnyb> both true - but i would say adding a new feature like that would have to wait for 3.1 at least
[12:08] <jonnyb> docs in the meantime?
[12:08] <chibaguy> yes
[12:08] <chibaguy> can't download 3.0 without checking the box marked "I will delete incompatible tpls."
[12:08] <jonnyb> :)
[12:09] <ricks99> add to installer?
[12:09] <chibaguy> that would be good, if possible
[12:09] <ricks99> in the pre-req step, can we check for specific tpls?
[12:09] <jonnyb> the only ones are the defaults that have been removed in 3.0 right?
[12:09] <ricks99> fwiw, i think "blanking" the offending tpls is safest & lowest risk for 3.0
[12:09] <ricks99> but your call
[12:09] <chibaguy> I think that could be a problem because there isn't a finite list to check for. or a way to judge compatibility.
[12:10] <chibaguy> I don't think the downside is worth the kruft.
[12:10] <chibaguy> that is, the site probably won't break with old tpls, and the idea of having blank files in the distro really rubs me the wrong way (and probably a lot of people).
[12:12] <chibaguy> At the old site I just upgraded, the only problem immediately obvious is a white band across the top with the "jump to content" link showing.
[12:12] <chibaguy> (this is moved offscreen by inline css in the modern tpls)
[12:12] <jonnyb> i'd say it's one for the FAQ/readme on 3.0 and something more automagic in 3.1
[12:13] <chibaguy> (inline ironically to avoid the problem of it displaying correctly if the stylesheet isn't used.)
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[12:13] <chibaguy> jonnyb, I think so too.
[12:13] <ricks99> rick holds his tongue, but defers to the xperts
[12:14] <chibaguy> ricks99, if the files caused white screens or something like that, I'd be inclined to go with the blank files.
[12:14] <chibaguy> But the effect seems to be relatively minor, so easy enough to fix after the fact.
[12:15] <ricks99> i understand. for me, if it comes downto "pretty distro" vs. "ease for newbies", i always vote for newbies.
[12:16] <ricks99> but as i said, i'll defer to ya'll
[12:16] <jonnyb> 3.0 has been in "feature freeze" mode for weeks, we really need to stop adding stuff to it one day (5 days after the release date seems a bit late!)
[12:16] <chibaguy> well, this is a problem for upgrades, not new installs, so hopefully they won't be too new "newbies"...
[12:16] <ricks99> y, thats why i thought blank tpl files would be low risk. there's already a header.tpl in svn, we're simply replacing the content.
[12:16] <ricks99> 'nuff said
[12:16] <chibaguy> could be bad for cpanel installs, though, come to think of it.
[12:19] <chibaguy> But to make it newbie-safe we'd have to add blank tiki.tpls and header.tpls to thenews/, feb12/, darkroom/, tikinewt/, as well as whatever pre-tiki2 themes people might have installed (templates/x/ .
[12:19] <chibaguy> templates/styles/x
[12:19] <jonnyb> yes ricks99 - making "blank" tpls (they'd have to be "redirect" ones really, therefore klunky) would be ok in my view as a [FIX], but adding a funky "detect and delete" function to the installer would be a [NEW] imho
[12:20] <jonnyb> if it was a WSoD thing i'd say let's add them
[12:20] <ricks99> y. installer upate for 3.x. 
[12:20] <jonnyb> if it's just occasional weirdness; add to docs
[12:20] <chibaguy> This is the effect: http://alohaenglish.com/tiki-index.php
[12:22] <chibaguy> looks like just the jump-to link, and the bottom bar info is missing. Functionally of course there'll be other problems because of changes in header.tpl
[12:22] <chibaguy> (problems if jquery is tried, etc.)
[12:23] <jonnyb> i would say, as an upgrade that's not disastrous (seen worse! expecting worse on my 2.3 site!)
[12:23] <ricks99> *rick gazes into his crystal ball and sees 100s of forum questions: "How do I remove the Jump to Content" text
[12:23] <ricks99> fwiw, my 1.10 -> 3.0 went very smoothly
[12:24] <jonnyb> hmmmm - tricky balance - a dozen or so silly redirecting files or 100s of support questions...
[12:25] <chibaguy> I'd go with one url with the faq, for those questions.
[12:25] <ricks99> again, i always tilt in favor of end-user usability
[12:25] <jonnyb> we could remove them in 3.x when the installer is more clever?
[12:26] <chibaguy> depends on how clever the installer can be, probably.
[12:26] <jonnyb> nobody reads readmes & FAQs - i'm shifting towards stub files
[12:26] <ricks99> +1
[12:26] <chibaguy> ouch
[12:26] <ricks99> (now rick just needs to convert chibaguy) :)
[12:26] <chibaguy> not gonna happen ;-)
[12:26] <Caarrie> then we can pin him down till he caves in ;) :P
[12:26] <ricks99> will direct all forum posts to chibaguy :)
[12:27] <chibaguy> ok, my copy-paste response will be ready. ;-)
[12:27] <jonnyb> it could certainly say "your installation has these obsolete files from a previous version: shall i delete them for you? (customisations will be permanently lost etc etc)" 
[12:27] <ricks99> im just saying... studies show that the *user* is *always* the weak-point. anything we can do to avoid necessitating their interaction is a plus (imho)
[12:29] <chibaguy> that'd be great, jonnyb.
[12:30] <chibaguy> well, then tiki has way too many points of interaction already. :-)
[12:30] <ricks99> 100% agree
[12:31] <chibaguy> new video camera has a "simple - normal" toggle for the menus.
[12:32] <chibaguy> big clunky switch next to the display
[12:32] <chibaguy> apparently what tiki should have on the install screen, eh?
[12:33] <chibaguy> simple edit screen has one crayon icon.
[12:33] <chibaguy> ;-)
[12:33] <ricks99> simple edit screen = wysiwyg (that works)
[12:42] <chibaguy> well, we can post this on the dev list and see what the consensus is.
[12:43] <chibaguy> I think people who install with ftp or on their own servers will be ok, as they have the tools. But upgrading with cpanel will be bad if people have no clue how to fix things after upgrading.
[12:45] <chibaguy> It'd be up to the hosting company support staff, and I don't know if there's a systematic way to inform these people or expect them to do it.
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[12:57] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18563 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/resource.wiki.php: [FIX]tracker: tiki_p_use_as_template is not really useful as each field is tested individually
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[13:47] <nkoth3> Hi everyone. Tikifest Ottawa is "starting up"...
[13:47] <jonnyb> Woo! Happy Festing all!
[13:49] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18564 10/branches/3.0/lib/ (smarty_tiki/resource.wiki.php tikilib.php): [FIX]tracker: do not show the edit header/plugin icon for a pretty tracker
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[14:00] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18565 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Don't show unnecessary section edit button if hdr 1 is top of the page (and there is no section 0) [wish 2484]
[14:01] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18566 10/branches/3.0/tiki-print.php: [FIX]print: no plugin edit icon when printing
[14:01] <sylvieg> thx jonnyb - I just noticed this one...
[14:02] <jonnyb> good thing svn didn't let me overwrite your one - the email hadn't arrived ;)
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[14:05] <marclaporte> polom
[14:05] * marclaporte starts TikiFest in a bus, from Montr�al to Ottawa and is very pleased with Telus 3G card
[14:05] <marclaporte> nkoth3: : all set?
[14:05] <marclaporte> nkoth3: : did you review new release scripts?
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[14:14] <almaviva>  :D 
[14:14] <patlaj> Hi all - was trying to add <div class="myclass">content</div> to a wikipage using: {DIV(type=>myclass)}content{DIV}. Doesn't work though... is there syntax to do what I want? Or should I just use HTML?
[14:16] <nkoth3_> no, not reviewed yet
[14:16] <nkoth3_> marclaporte^
[14:16] <ricks99> @patlaj: use {DIV(class=>"myclass")}....
[14:17] <marclaporte> jonnyb: : welcome back! How was the trip?
[14:18] <patlaj> but of course! :)  Thanks @ricks99
[14:19] <chibaguy> patlaj, I think you need {DIV(class=>myclass)}content{DIV}
[14:20] <chibaguy> ah, sorry, wasn't paying attention. thx ricks99
[14:20] <jonnyb> hi marclaporte - mallorca was lovely, nice and restful
[14:20] <jonnyb> thx
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[15:37] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18567 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX]fr: better to see vendredi 8 mai than vendredi 08 mai
[15:43] <Kimberlee> does anyone know the purpose of the page DefaultFeatureSet?  or if it should be indexed by the wiki?
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[15:45] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, where did that page come from?
[15:48] <Kimberlee> well I have been having this weird problem with my "I forgot my password" functionality.
[15:48] <Kimberlee> only in 1 of my sites
[15:49] <Kimberlee> I thought it might be a problem with the password_reminder.tpl file
[15:49] <chibaguy> What is the weird problem?
[15:49] <Kimberlee> because I noticed that instead of saying "Login as..."
[15:50] <Kimberlee> it says "Login as&"
[15:50] <chibaguy> What Tiki version is the site running?
[15:51] <Kimberlee> so I searched Google on login as& and found this website and the page was called DefaultFeatureSet
[15:51] <Kimberlee> all of my versions are 2.2
[15:51] <nkoth3> hi thunder_dex
[15:51] <thunder_dex> hi 
[15:51] <Kimberlee> so I checked and my site had the same file, but all of my other sites do not
[15:51] <thunder_dex> test, test, I am here, carry on :D
[15:54] <chibaguy>  hmm
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[15:54] <chibaguy> Is your site oops-again, or is that the other one with that file?
[15:56] <Kimberlee> the one with the file
[15:56] <Kimberlee> thats the one i found when searching on "login as&"
[15:57] <chibaguy> and you have a page called DefaultFeatureSet at your site too?
[15:57] <Kimberlee> do u see the login mod in the corner of the oops-again site? Thats the same problem I have
[15:57] <Kimberlee> yes, although I renamed it
[15:57] <Kimberlee> thats why i was asking what it was ;o
[15:58] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18568 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: 
[15:58] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: [FIX] Smarty icon plugin now theme "option" aware
[15:58] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: I.E. will use images in styles/my_style/options/my_option/pics/icons/ etc for folders etc
[15:58] <chibaguy> you didn't create the page?
[15:59] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18569 10/trunk/tiki-webmail_ajax.php: [FIX] check to prevent JS error
[15:59] <Kimberlee> no i didn't
[15:59] <chibaguy> hmm
[16:00] <Kimberlee> although there is 1 other person with rights, hes not smart enough to do anything
[16:00] <chibaguy> do you have any modules that display ads, or other outside javascript being used?
[16:01] <Kimberlee> yes
[16:01] <chibaguy> They're working ok?
[16:01] <Kimberlee> yes
[16:02] <chibaguy> and the site is working normally as far as you can tell, apart from what you mentioned?
[16:02] <Kimberlee> the only thing that is not working is the "forgot password" template is truncated
[16:02] <Kimberlee> more specifically, the email that it sends is truncated and doesn't send a link or plain text
[16:03] <Kimberlee> Yes, flawlessly
[16:03] <Kimberlee> It was my first tikiwiki site, so who knows I probably did something stupid early on
[16:04] <chibaguy> well, I don't know of anything the site admin can do to cause those problems.
[16:05] <Kimberlee> thank gawd!  Can I get that in writing  ;)
[16:05] <chibaguy> heh, just print this conversation, I guess.
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[16:07] <Kimberlee> I am certain that I did not touch the password_reminder.tpl file until this problem was reported to me by users
[16:07] <chibaguy> I assume your site is set to use english (not british english).
[16:08] <nkoth3_> Is anyone working on http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Profiles_in_30_installer ?
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[16:10] <chibaguy> nkoth3_, I was working on copy for the Personal_Blog_and_Profile wiki pages, but didn't change anything at profiles.tw.o yet.
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[16:14] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, I see "Login as&" in 145 google results (including at same sites) - including quite a few tiki installations.
[16:16] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18570 10/branches/3.0/lib/sheet/grid.php: [FIX]sheet: \n bugs javascript
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[16:24] <sylvieg> I saw that before .... how to do not to have the background of fck editor iframe  as the background of the body 
[16:24] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, it looks like you are seeing the & in the code for elipsis - &hellip; - rather than the elipsis itself ( . . . ). 
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[16:25] <chibaguy> I don't know why the code would show instead of the characters that it means.
[16:31] <luciash> re
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[16:43] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r18571 10/branches/3.0/styles/tikinewt.css: [FIX] tabs displaying properly in all admin pages when using tikinewt theme
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[17:09] <nkoth3> anyone got WARNING: Plugin disabled TR!_HOMEPAGE_CONTENT_ recently?
[17:09] <nkoth3> in tiki 3 rc
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[17:16] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r18572 10/branches/2.0/db/tiki_1.9to2.0.sql: [FIX] assign permissions tiki_p_list_file_galleries and tiki_p_list_image_galleries for groups that have tiki_p_view_file_gallery and tiki_p_view_image_gallery respectively
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[17:17] <rodrigo_sampaio> should I commit the same fix on tiki_1.9to2.0.sql from branch 2.0 to branch 3.0?
[17:29] <rodrigo_sampaio> im asking because im not sure if the idea is to commit changes in two different branches or if there is some special merge procedure for that
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[17:35] <nkoth3> i don't think there is any auto-merge from 2 to 3 anymore
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[17:41] <nkoth3> ok, i know why the TR not enabled happens for me - translate plugin is turned off for me...
[17:41] <nkoth3> must be some profile that I installed or something
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[17:43] <ricks99> on admin: general, exactly what does the "Fields display order" do?
[17:44] <ricks99> how does this work in conjunction with my defined date formats?
[17:49] <rodrigo_sampaio> nkoth3: thanks, so im going to commit the change to branch 3.0
[17:49] <ohertel> Hello! :)
[17:49] <nkoth3> Hello ohertel!
[18:00] <nkoth3> hi, i am in the tiki-blig_post.php
[18:00] <nkoth3> *blog_post
[18:01] <nkoth3> and I see the buttons Wiki Help and Plugin Help at the bottom
[18:04] <nkoth3> but they do nothing. I suppose I could comment them out since the help is now available in the floating Help thing, right?
[18:14] <sylvieg> +1 nkoth3
[18:18] <nkoth3> I think I will simply remove it. the buttons don't work anyway
[18:19] <nkoth3> no point leaving commented stuff there...
[18:19] <sylvieg> yeh
[18:19] <nkoth3> unless someone intends to make them work in future?
[18:20] <sylvieg> no it will be the help at the top right in the future
[18:20] <nkoth3> k
[18:20] <nkoth3> I was thinking more like this button also triggering the help at top right
[18:21] <nkoth3> but nm.
[18:25] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r18573 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-blog_post.tpl: [FIX] Remove unnecessary and broken wiki help buttons (duplicates floating help)
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[18:50] <ricks99> getting mysql errors on tw.o when using search :(
[18:52] <nkoth3> me too.
[18:52] <nkoth3> is tw.o on the latest?
[18:52] <ohertel> yup. updated yesterday.
[18:53] <ricks99> did perms change, too? i cannot search as anonymous
[18:53] <marclaporte> polom
[19:01] <ohertel> ricks99: no perm change, upgraded to 3.0 last week and sylvie did tw.o up yesterday. So all *should* be well. ^^
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[19:04] <ricks99_> nope. cannot search as anon\
[19:05] <ricks99_> hm.. yet Anon group *does* have tiki_p_search
[19:05] <ricks99_> does anon also need "search_categorized"?
[19:06] <ricks99_> which is worse: not being able to use search? or using search but getting db errors? ;-)
[19:06] <ohertel> probably.
[19:06] <ohertel> no idea. .P
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[19:07] <ricks99_> I updated Anon group on tw.o - no includes p_search_categorized.
[19:07] <ricks99_> working now
[19:07] <ricks99_> well.. getting the db error... but no longer "perm denied"
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[19:16] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18574 10/branches/3.0/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: [FIX]fgal: some perms errors messages
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[19:29] <sylvieg> the search bug on tw.org is a strange Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
[19:32] <sylvieg> ah . I get it
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[19:37] <nkoth3_> :), btw, any reason why search is not turned on or activated for everyone on info?
[19:37] <nkoth3_> i was thinking of turning it on...
[19:38] <sylvieg> ohertel left ... somebody knows if there is a phpmyadmin on tw.org?
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[19:45] <nkoth3_> hmm. the menu squishes due to lack of space on info.tw.o if search is on for anoymous. maybe that's why
[19:46] <sylvieg> search on tw.org does not bugged anymore
[19:49] <nkoth3_> cool. thanks sylvieg: what was the fix?
[19:50] <sylvieg> drop index ft on tiki_pages;drop index description on tiki_pages;create fulltext index ft on tiki_pages (pageName,description,data);
[19:50] <sylvieg> I have no idea why the fulltext index was split into 2 parts...
[19:59] <nkoth3_> as far as I can tell, it was already pageName,description,data in previous versions right?
[20:00] <nkoth3_> Also, I am looking at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process#Todo_3, are there bug numbers for some of the items there? I am having trouble understanding the bugs
[20:03] <sylvieg> in old version there was no description
[20:04] <sylvieg> if people did not put their name close to the bugs ... no idea...
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[20:13] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18575 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] Remove reference to source page in template as it's alwys blank. Applogies to translators.
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[20:19] <fulano2040> Hi every one
[20:20] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18576 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX]: no mail message ending with : must be translated into &nbsp;: because it wil be excaped
[20:20] <fulano2040> I have a doubt about the email notifications, it is not working for me and I'm looking some advise to find out why this is happening and how to fix it
[20:21] <fulano2040> !help
[20:21] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[20:21] <fulano2040> alguien?
[20:21] <fulano2040> anyone?
[20:21] <sylvieg> check if the mail has been sent in your mail log or in tw log if release >3 or 3)
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[20:24] <fulano2040> I'm using v2.4
[20:24] <sylvieg> fulano2040: do you receive other email other than notifications?
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[20:25] <fulano2040> No, that is the only thing that I'm using the email for
[20:27] <fulano2040> There are any special requirements to use this features? I have seen some post saying that some people had the same problem but there wasn't any solution
[20:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18577 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: oops
[20:29] <fulano2040> Should I upgrade to version 3? is stable enough to use it in a production environment ?
[20:29] <sylvieg> check also your spam box + sometimes your system need in admin-> geenral the option mail must end with CR or CRLF
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[20:32] <fulano2040> I haven't tried the mails end with CR or CRLF
[20:32] <fulano2040> Nothing is in the spam box
[20:33] <fulano2040> I have 2 accounts where the mails its suppose to be sent but I got nothing on any
[20:34] <sylvieg> so try to switvh between CR and CRLF
[20:34] <sylvieg> is it your server or a hosting?
[20:36] <fulano2040> its my server
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[20:44] <sylvieg> is it a linux?
[20:45] <fulano2040> yes it is
[20:47] <sylvieg> did you try on a command line: mail you@site.com
[20:47] <sylvieg> to see if your mailer is well set
[20:47] <fulano2040> no I didn't
[20:47] <fulano2040> let me try it
[20:51] <fulano2040> Its not woking
[20:52] <fulano2040> What should I set up to make this feature work?
[20:52] <sylvieg> you need to read the manual
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[20:54] <fulano2040> the wiki tiki manual?
[20:55] <fulano2040> I read the documentation in the web but I didn't found anything 
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[20:59] <sylvieg> if the command line does not work - for sure tikiwiki will not work - try a moer system oriented irc perhaps
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[21:03] <fulano2040> ok thanks a lot I'll for your help
[21:03] <fulano2040> I'll set up the email agent first to see if it works there
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[22:58] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Title Header Missing After Upgrade To 3.0RC1 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=32940
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[23:41] <btiffin> Any TikiFesters still at the CodeFactory?  I'd like to show tonight, but might not get there until 8:30 or later.  Is it worth it or do I try for tomorrow?
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