#tikiwiki 2009-05-20,Wed

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vkumar	hello everybody	[01:27]
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ricks99	hi vkumar	[01:44]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: help now, failed upgrade to 3 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33065	[01:45]
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kaiiak	help	[01:48]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ .	[01:48]
kaiiak	I just installed v3 and im getting a fatal error about dates, can anyone help me please	[01:49]
ricks99	@kaiiak: what is the error?	[01:52]
kaiiak	from gilb.com I get Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDate::getTimezoneId() in /home/gilbcom/public_html/lib/setup/prefs.php on line 818	[01:56]
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kaiiak	line 818 reads: 'server_timezone' => isset($tikidate) ? $tikidate->getTimezoneId() : 'UTC',	[01:56]
marclaporte	php version?	[01:57]
kaiiak	im checking php version php v 5.2.8	[01:58]
ricks99	ricks99 is out of his expertise zone on this one :(	[01:59]
kaiiak	thanks anyway ricks99	[01:59]
ricks99	off to upgrade smarties to 3.0...	[02:00]
kaiiak	@marclaporte are you looking into this?	[02:03]
	@ricks99 where would I go to get help on this issue? Im totally lost!	[02:09]
marclaporte	kaiiak: : Jonny Bradley last played there kaiiak: I suggest you check file integrity. Perhaps some files got lost/corrupted in upload	[02:09]
vkumar	hi, I am using firebug to inspect my web page.. earlier i had copied contents of an extenal css file to nornia 11.. Now in the firebug css section.. i see free entries striked through.. what does that men ?	[02:10]
kaiiak	marclaporte who is he/how can I contact him?	[02:10]
vkumar	few not free	[02:11]
kaiiak	marclaporte - ok	[02:12]
ricks99	@kaiiak: post in forums maybe?	[02:12]
marclaporte	look in left hand menu http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Security+Admin	[02:16]
vkumar	hi rics marc.. did u see my question ??	[02:17]
marclaporte	kaiiak: : http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Debug_Mode_Enabled vkumar: : I don't use Firebug. No idea	[02:18]
ricks99	@vkumar: strikethru means the style is being overridden. ricks99 waiting for ftp.... ssssllllllooooowwwwww	[02:19]
vkumar	ok .. so the last one gets priority ??	[02:19]
ricks99	y. u can override the css.	[02:21]
vkumar	i have not done anything specifc.. may be in some sections i have used /* */. I noticed that ul{} was comming from both the stylesheets, the last one was taken the first one is strikethru ok .. i think i have messed up the question.. :) let me analyze it more	[02:23]
ricks99	good luck	[02:29]
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ricks99	ricks99 still* waiting to ftp 3.0 to my server :(*	[02:31]
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Botrax	Just upgraded from 2.3 to 3.0 and now I have NO available options for the Wiki withing Tikiwiki. Administrator cannot change ANY parameters, they do not appear in Control Panel One thing gets fixed, but other stuff break.....	[03:40]
marclaporte	Botrax: : whack a mole! Botrax: URL?	[03:44]
Botrax	URL to what?	[03:46]
mlaporte	to the problem tiki-admin.php should lead you to everything admin panels have been reworked to be easier	[03:52]
	Botrax ^^	[04:08]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: WIKI Admin Options missing after 3.0 upgrade - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33070	[04:12]
Botrax	I go to ADMIN HOME, then to WIKI, I see no WIKI options, just the SAVE CHANGES buttons EVERY Tikiwiki upgrade is painful and always breaks important stuff.	[04:16]
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vkumar	Hi, can we use firebug to edit an existing code of up and running tikiwiki ??	[04:35]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Aula Wiki - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=33072	[06:47]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18928 10/trunk/templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] list_file_gallery: look fix only. Both tabs cannot be "active" when we arrive on that template	[06:48]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18929 10/branches/proposed/templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] list_file_gallery: look fix only. Both tabs cannot be "active" when we arrive on that template	[06:57]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18930 10/branches/experimental/coe/lib/ (fckeditor_tiki/plugins/mediawiki/fckplugin.js tikilib.php): [ENH] FCK+WYSIWYG To HTML : add plugin support	[07:09]
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mib_2w1ssl	Hi there, just upgraded from 2.4 to 3.0 an now sidebar behaves strange (content is on top of the page, and sidebar is only on the left side under the main content). What's going wrong?	[07:17]
kaiiak	I just installed tiki v3 and im getting a fatal error, help apreciated	[07:17]
mib_2w1ssl	what kind of error do you get kaiiak?	[07:19]
kaiiak	http://www.gilb.com/ Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDate::getTimezoneId() in /home/gilbcom/public_html/lib/setup/prefs.php on line 818 line 818 reads: 'server_timezone' => isset($tikidate) ? $tikidate->getTimezoneId() : 'UTC',	[07:20]
mib_2w1ssl	mmmh, how did you upgrade? via shell or webfrontend?	[07:22]
kaiiak	I uploaded the files using an ftp client, then ran the upgrade script	[07:22]
mib_2w1ssl	OK, I used the webinterface. Did you check if the mentioned file is correct? Maybe you can try to fix via http://www.gilb.com/tiki-install.php	[07:25]
kaiiak	how do I check that it is correct? I have uploaded it again. And I have run the tiki-install.php again it was an upgrade from latest v2. Right now im in the process of uploading all the file again, and running the installer again. Put that is just out of desparation	[07:26]
mib_2w1ssl	which timezone is configured in line 818? mine looks like this: 'server_timezone' => isset($tikidate) ? $tikidate->getTimezoneId() : 'UTC',	[07:31]
kaiiak	thanks for looking that up, looks just like mine 'server_timezone' => isset($tikidate) ? $tikidate->getTimezoneId() : 'UTC', so it is probably not that line, but something it refers to/ where it pools the info ???	[07:31]
mib_2w1ssl	sorry, no idea so far,... have to fix my wired sidebar-problem first - maybe later on grgrg	[07:35]
kaiiak	well thanks and good luck. Im totally lost here if you do get an idea, please post it here http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33065&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc	[07:36]
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mib_2w1ssl	OK,... did you ever had a sidebar that appeared under only the main content?	[07:37]
kaiiak	no, it says something about changes to the css needed for v3 here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+2.x+to+3.x&bl=y	[07:40]
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kaiiak	I need help (desparately) just upgraded to v3 and I get a fatal error: Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDate::getTimezoneId() in /home/gilbcom/public_html/lib/setup/prefs.php on line 818	[07:53]
mib_2w1ssl	I use tikineat.css sytle - why are my columns gone?	[08:05]
kaiiak	hi mib I guess just u and I here, sorry I cant help u	[08:11]
mib_2w1ssl	damned,... :-(	[08:12]
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chibaguyj	mib_2w1ssl, the tikineat theme isn't compatible with Tiki 3. You'll need to change themes.	[08:16]
luciash	polom this sunny morning	[08:21]
mib_2w1ssl	which one is the recommended theme for V3?	[08:21]
luciash	mib_2w1ssl: thenews, strasa, coelesce, feb12, tikinewt, darkroom are these bundled mib_2w1ssl: others you can get at mods or themes.tikiwiki.org hmm, http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SUMO+Upstream+Process doesn't load for me	[08:22]
mib_2w1ssl	woowwh STRASA looks cute! thanks a lot!	[08:24]
kaiiak	I need help (desparately) just upgraded to v3 and I get a fatal error: Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDate::getTimezoneId() in /home/gilbcom/public_html/lib/setup/prefs.php on line 818	[08:25]
luciash	hmm, kaiiak, is your php 5 configured with pear date support ? kaiiak: you can login to your tiki or is it really fatal ?	[08:26]
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luciash	kaiiak: can you display tiki-admin.php?page=general in your browser ? kaiiak: if not, then you can try to change in your database table tiki_preferences the value of feature_pear_date to 'n'	[08:28]
vkumar	hi gary.. how r u ?	[08:35]
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chibaguyj	hi vkumar. mibbet got restarted so I got disconnected.	[08:35]
vkumar	ok.. whats the j ? not letting you in ?	[08:36]
kaiiak	hi luciash thanks for ideas. I was afk	[08:36]
chibaguyj	hmm, typo I guess.	[08:37]
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kaiiak	the good news is that I have re-uploaded the files, and now I get to the login. the site is all messed up (CSS) but Ill be looking into that and whatever else I need to do now.	[08:38]
vkumar	ok .. gary i am stuck with the menu section	[08:38]
kaiiak	Im really stoked Im passed that first hurdle, I have been working on it for hours without much progress :-)	[08:39]
vkumar	div.option a.linkmenu:hover {} what does this mean ??	[08:40]
chibaguy	here's a quiz: how many files are in the Tiki 3 package?	[08:40]
luciash	kaiiak: when upgrading i prefer to put new version in new directory or at least rename styles to styles_old and templates to templates_old before copying over to prevent theme incompatibilities chibaguy: heh, good one	[08:41]
chibaguy	answer: 8558 :-)	[08:42]
luciash	vkumar: empty CSS property for hovered links selector chibaguy: kewl !	[08:42]
chibaguy	i know because I'm ftping them all to my server. ;-)	[08:43]
luciash	chibaguy: nice number	[08:43]
chibaguy	yeah, nice and symetrical	[08:43]
vkumar	ok so it will take the value mentioned in a, a:active, a:hover by default	[08:44]
chibaguy	that's right, vkumar.	[08:45]
luciash	vkumar: that one empty is menu options specific	[08:46]
vkumar	and if .linkmenu a:link a:hover is mentioned... the default is discarded	[08:46]
luciash	vkumar: so if you want them different, put something in there ;)	[08:46]
vkumar	and if .linkmenu a:link a:hover is mentioned... the default is discarded ?	[08:47]
luciash	vkumar: .linkmenu:link, .linkmenu:hover {} should work	[08:48]
chibaguy	about editing with firebug, the edit only has effect in your browser and only for that session, it isn't saved at the server. anyway, that's my understanding. I don't edit with firebug myself.	[08:48]
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luciash	vkumar: or maybe better a.linkmenu:link, a.linkmenu:hover {} should work hi geoff :)	[08:48]
vkumar	ok luciash	[08:49]
eromneg	Hi luci - is dev.tikiwiki down??	[08:49]
luciash	eromneg: yes, seems so	[08:49]
eromneg	OK - thanks	[08:50]
vkumar	what if I want to make some changes in the code...	[08:50]
luciash	amette: ring ring	[08:50]
chibaguy	vkumar: then you have to edit the stylesheet itself and ftp or whatever method you use to change server files.	[08:51]
luciash	vkumar: use Edit CSS feature in Tiki or edit the styles/theme-yourthemecopy.css directly in your favorite code editor vkumar: you can enable it on Look & Feel vkumar: then it appears under Admin menu expanded	[08:51]
chibaguy	luciash, did you check that it works in tiki 3?	[08:52]
luciash	and improved chibaguy: yes, i use it actually and improved	[08:52]
chibaguy	ok, great :-)	[08:52]
luciash	for tiki 3	[08:52]
chibaguy	that's good news	[08:53]
luciash	you can just save and reload to see the changes (it will not yell the submit form has to be re-submitted now)	[08:53]
vkumar	ok .. and if i wish to change the code... like put a navmenu	[08:54]
luciash	still no syntax highlighting or other fancy stuff but it works better now	[08:54]
chibaguy	I think Tiki is changing from one of the hardest web software to style, to one of the easiest. :-)	[08:54]
luciash	vkumar: to put a navmenu you don't have to change code chibaguy: hehe :)	[08:55]
vkumar	no if i wish to change the mnu_application menu to 3d say for example	[08:56]
luciash	chibaguy: we have to put some more instructions for the upgraders and theme makers still 3d ? vkumar: ?	[08:56]
vkumar	:) say for example :)	[08:57]
chibaguy	there's a lot of choices: theme options, custom.css in a theme's style directory, the shadow divs option, etc. yes, we need good docs.	[08:57]
luciash	vkumar: just use what Look & Feels offers to you Admin > Admin home (I hate to type this) > Look and Feel	[08:57]
vkumar	ok in look and feel what should i do ?	[08:58]
luciash	play :) in the General Layout you can input custom code instead of using the easy tiki top bar menu	[08:59]
vkumar	ok but that is only for top bar right	[09:00]
chibaguy	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-my_tiki.php.php causes a tiki 404 error.	[09:00]
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luciash	vkumar: under General Layout > Top Bar you can check it on and see if you like the top bar menu	[09:00]
chibaguy	oh, there's an extra php there. hmm.	[09:01]
luciash	chibaguy: a typo in the menu ?	[09:01]
chibaguy	yeah, looks like. I'm checking now.	[09:02]
luciash	vkumar: but you can put your custom "3d" menu in Custom Code textarea for example vkumar: do you see ?	[09:02]
vkumar	ya i have done that.. i have also made a 3d menu module and assigned to right	[09:03]
luciash	cool	[09:03]
vkumar	if i wish to edit the mnu_applications menu.. what should i do ? not edit... code it	[09:04]
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chibaguy	mnu_applications menu has a typo.	[09:07]
vkumar	mnu_application menu	[09:07]
chibaguy	(bad url for mytiki page)	[09:07]
vkumar	:)	[09:07]
chibaguy	Is it distributed that way? or did it get edited at doc.tw.o? must have gotted edited. I see the url is ok at another tiki 3 site. gotted -> gotten	[09:08]
luciash	yes or maybe it was bad before in some beta version and got stucked still on doc.tw.o somehow	[09:10]
chibaguy	Anyway, I wanted to change my theme preference there because on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+2.x+to+3.x the css menu dropdowns display behind the video.	[09:11]
luciash	if you want to code it explore the modules/ code	[09:11]
chibaguy	...so was checking if it does that in other themes (so far, yes)	[09:12]
luciash	k	[09:12]
chibaguy	a z-index problem? or because it's flash?	[09:12]
luciash	flash must have parameter	[09:13]
chibaguy	<param name="wmode" value="transparent"> ? - is what i just googled for and found	[09:15]
luciash	yes or wmode="transparent"	[09:15]
chibaguy	"…and in the line that starts out <embed src="...>, you must add ‘wmode="transparent"‘."	[09:15]
luciash	sure :)	[09:15]
chibaguy	http://brassblogs.com/blog/son-of-suckerfish-and-flash so the flash plugin needs to be modified.	[09:15]
luciash	you didn't know that ? i wonder if it's not in bundled tiki plugins FLASH should have it passed as a param, YOUTUBE can have it hardcoded i think	[09:16]
vkumar	could not find that luciash... do i need a source file ?	[09:19]
luciash	do we have other flash plugins ? vkumar: the module is built from the menus data in database i think, dunno where exactly	[09:19]
chibaguy	mediaplayer too	[09:20]
luciash	chibaguy: ah, yep, that one	[09:21]
chibaguy	maybe wikiplugin_myspace "Displays a SWF myspace mp3 playlist on the wiki page"	[09:21]
vkumar	say for instance if you view source of the main page it shows mnu_application_menu.. each option is a div.. If i wish to put an unorderd list in place of the divs.. what should i do ?	[09:33]
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luciash	vkumar: try the css menu, it uses ul	[09:47]
vkumar	how do we do that ?	[09:48]
luciash	vkumar: create custom module and put {menu css=y id=43 type=vert} there vkumar: then to the assigned module parameters put overflow=y	[09:49]
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luminoso	hi i want, on a wiki article to link to http://luminoso.ws/tw/tiki-galleries.php what is the best way to do this? (by the way: i am new to tikiwiki) should i use and internal or external link? it seems that internal is only to wiki pages	[10:00]
vkumar	luciash.. thats cool.. but if i give oveflow=y.. the dropdowns are missing i am sorry... in IE the drop downs are missing and yes this one uses ul... thanks verymuch luciash	[10:01]
	bye gary.. bye luciash... see you later	[10:14]
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Floh1111	hi is there a function to get the fileid from the filename?	[10:17]
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Floh1111	something like getFileIdByFileName?	[10:18]
gezza	Hi! I have a problem since the upgrade to 3.0. We decided to switch on the wiki staging and approval, tryed to make it work but somehow we could not approve pages (not even as admin, we were follwoing the instructions here http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+Page+Staging+and+Approval). After a while we gave up and decided to switch it off but now when editing a page the content gets duplicated	[10:24]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: show/hide open a page with a side menu closed - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33082	[10:25]
gezza	and I can not remove it, when i go back to edit mode and delete than save it appears on more time again I switched off all staging features, cleared cache but now run out of ideas have you met this problem before?	[10:26]
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luminoso	uploading images i have this: Note: Maximum image size is limited to 200.00 Mb when i upload a zip file with photos i recive a warning with "maximum file size exceded" but the zip have only 14MB!	[10:39]
	any ideas?	[10:44]
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LordVan	luminoso, php.ini limit?	[11:07]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18931 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-upload_file.tpl tiki-upload_image.tpl): [MOD]upload: change the message to an around limit as the computation is not exact	[11:28]
luminoso	LordVan, php lmit for file uploads is 200mb is there ay tikiwiki forum where i can post some questions?	[11:38]
LordVan	tw.org ? was there a limit to set in tiki itself too? hmm	[11:41]
sylvieg	is it am img in image gal or a file in file gal or a file in comments? there are a couple of system param see doc http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Image+Gallery+Config + tehre are soem limit in the tw admin pannel for soem feature	[11:43]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18932 10/branches/experimental/coe/lib/ (fckeditor_tiki/plugins/mediawiki/fckplugin.js tikilib.php): [FIX] include_once smarty icon function	[12:14]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18933 10/branches/experimental/coe/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] include_once smarty icon function tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18934 10/trunk/modules/mod-since_last_visit_new.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Tracker items with trackerId=0 caused major error tikiwiki: (unfinished profile created them during development) tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18935 10/branches/experimental/coe/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] missing globals	[12:16]
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LordVan	bugfixes to 3.0 already .. nice&quick ;)	[12:28]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18937 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]tracker: option 'creator is assigned to group' + 'and it becomes his defautl group'	[12:41]
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mib_2w1ssl	How can I submit a translation of "Most popular tags" in german lanuage in my system, and how can I contribute it to the tikiwikicommunity?	[13:23]
sylvieg	mib_2w1ssl: are you ready to complete the German translation?	[13:30]
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mib_2w1ssl	@<sylvieg>: why not,... drop me a short note via mail: wiki-at-artoc.de cheers, chris	[13:57]
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ChadDa3mon	In the other wiki's I've used...a section heading usually has a horizontal line under it is there an option somewhere in tiki for this, or is it part of the theme I'm using maybe?	[14:11]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18942 10/branches/experimental/coe/lib/fckeditor_tiki/plugins/mediawiki/fckplugin.js: [FIX] HTMLToWiki : fix space before lists	[14:12]
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chibaguy	ChadDa3mon: This could be added in the theme CSS file (or at a site in a theme's styles/<themename>/custom.css file); none of the bundled themes have that now.	[14:14]
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ChadDa3mon	thanks Chiba	[14:19]
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chibaguy	Does anyone know why I would get this error after upgrading a tiki 2.3 site to 3.0: "Error: the xajax Javascript component could not be included. Perhaps the url is incorrect? URL: lib/ajax/xajax/xajax_js/xajax_core.js the file is actually at that url.	[14:40]
sylvieg	did you clean your browser cache?	[14:43]
marclaporte	try sh setup.sh	[14:43]
chibaguy	I don't have shell access at the server. I've cleared the caches a few times. also the CSRF confirmation step click just reloads the confirmation. and none of my modules have boxes or titles. things are a mess. I updated by ftp-ing over an existing 2.3 install, but got such bad results I figured the ftp "replace if newer source" file dates must not have been read correctly or something. so have been deleting directories and uploading new files, starting with lib and now templates and styles and root directory files. still problems. one php error: PHP (5.2.5) NOTICE (8): File: Smarty.class.php(1933) : eval()'d code Line: 3 Type: Undefined index: page don't know if that's relevant or not. well, there's plenty of room for user error, and installs at other sites are ok, so will keep checking.	[14:44]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18946 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]SUBSCRIBEGROUPS: option show_group_description	[14:57]
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chibaguy	damn. if all of lib/, templates/, styles/, modules/ and all root .php files are deleted and replaced, and all site and local caches cleared, shouldn't the upgrade work?	[15:00]
MartinCleaver	marclaporte: am in the SUMO meeting sylvieg:	[15:02]
chibaguy	In the error message "syntax error: plugin function smarty_block_tikimodule() not found in lib/smarty_tiki//block.tikimodule.php"... are the double slashes a problem, or ok?	[15:03]
marclaporte	MartinCleaver: : which chatroom?	[15:04]
MartinCleaver	Telephone See http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SUMO%2BUpstream%2BProcess	[15:04]
	irc://irc.mozilla.org/sumodev	[15:12]
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chibaguy	don't know why, but turning off 'Smarty security' (which I had turned on w/o really knowing how it works, etc.) solved my missing module parts problem (or anyway coinciding with the problem disappearing).	[15:23]
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mib_exl4m7	any chance someone can help me with user creating problems: they are automatically created as members of admin group and I can't remove them from it. I tried both manual and bulk creation of new users.... any idea whats going on?	[15:29]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18947 10/branches/proposed/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] Minor typo	[15:31]
chibaguy	mib_exl4m7, never heard of that problem before. what tiki version are you using?	[15:32]
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mib_exl4m7	hi chibaguy... its 2.4 i think yes, just checked	[15:34]
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chibaguy	at my 2.3 site, I created a user, and he is just "Registered," as expected. I don't know what would cause him to be admin. (I mean at your site.)	[15:38]
mib_exl4m7	yeah, registered stands to reason...i even used group mangement i just tried again having cleared site cache.. samething is there a default setting of groups that new users are assigned to??	[15:40]
SEWilco2	mib_exl4m7: Check if group "Anonymous" has been given admin permissions. Registered tends to inherit Anonymous permissions.	[15:43]
chibaguy	On tiki-admin.php?page=login, do you have anything set that would cause this?	[15:43]
SEWilco2	mib_exl4m7: Maybe Registered is inheriting Admin permissions (called "included" in Group admin pages). I don't remember how to remove included groups.	[15:45]
mib_exl4m7	checking these... thanks take a few!	[15:45]
	SEWilco2: yes, registered were inheriting admin properties! solved... thanks!	[15:51]
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chibaguy	hmm, so they weren't actually members of 'admin' group, but were registered and inheriting admin properties (just to clarify)?	[15:53]
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mib_exl4m7	that appears to be the case chibaguy	[16:05]
chibaguy	ah, ok.	[16:05]
mib_exl4m7	thanks for the help.. i'm just learning about tikiwiki, want to use for courses i teach	[16:06]
chibaguy	you're welcome.	[16:06]
mib_exl4m7	take care!	[16:07]
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grivest	Hello there, I'm wondering if I could get help on my upgrade from 2.2 to 3.0... I made backups, started install.php, and after giving db access codes, the first thing I tried was switching the language to french on the installation page - now the whole site only gives error 500 (internal db error)...	[16:10]
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FF\|Skyrider	Hi	[16:11]
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FF\|Skyriderz	Can someone confirm a bug for me?	[16:11]
sylvieg	grivest: do ou have a lang/fr/language.php file grivest : you can try to check and chage the values in the database - table tiki_preferences look for name like %lang%	[16:13]
grivest	ok, checking language.php exists	[16:15]
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FF\|Skyriderz	I installed 3.0 yesterday (fresh), and now I wish to edit account settings of someone within the user admin page. When when I click the edit button, all I see is 1 button that you can select in the top left.. and that's it. loading stops	[16:16]
grivest	sylvieg: I just changed language to "en" in the db, still gives an error	[16:18]
chibaguy	FF\|Skyriderz: You're on tiki-adminusers.php?	[16:18]
sylvieg	you need to close your browser - ... to be sure it is not cached in your SESSION vars	[16:19]
grivest	OK, this will close the chat session, brb	[16:19]
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chibaguy	FF\|Skyriderz: or you clicked on a user on tiki-adminusers.php and then are on the page to edit the user?	[16:20]
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grivest	sylvieg: back... still gives out error, I've also tried on a different computer	[16:21]
FF\|Skyriderz	on tiki-adminusers.php , "edit account settings: username"	[16:21]
sylvieg	grivest: do yopu have a more meaningful message in your error log	[16:22]
chibaguy	Things seem normal to me at my site, for that page.	[16:22]
FF\|Skyriderz	http://esforces.com/issue.jpg <- that's what I get that's it..	[16:23]
grivest	If I knew where the db error log was stored, I could check... perhaps this error is something I should first check with my web host?	[16:23]
chibaguy	I'd say either your installation isn't complete, or you need more php memory. do you recall what the memory figure was reported as, during the install procedure?	[16:24]
sylvieg	grivest: if you are using cpanle - tehr is usually a button 'error l;og'	[16:25]
grivest	no, no cpanel	[16:26]
FF\|Skyriderz	32MB	[16:26]
chibaguy	as far as I know, that should be enough. any other pages acting strange?	[16:26]
FF\|Skyriderz	nope. Just this one The only thing I do remember if I go to a page manually.. like xxxx.com/gohan it brings me back to the main page.. it should ask me to create the page as it doesnt exist	[16:27]
chibaguy	did you rename _htaccess to .htaccess, in your tiki root directory?	[16:28]
FF\|Skyriderz	yup	[16:28]
chibaguy	maybe your server doesn't support it. so you could contact the server admin about that.	[16:29]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18948 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]categ: check feature	[16:29]
chibaguy	anyway, I gotta take the dog out. will be back later.	[16:29]
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FF\|Skyriderz	chibaguy_away I think I got it The user "admin" lacks access.. At least, lacked.	[16:33]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18949 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] Correct tense	[16:39]
tim432	i upgraded to 3.0 last night and my css is messed up it appears. when trying to change to a 3.0 theme, i am unable to see the 'look & feel' options, they are to the right of the website and i cant see them. please help	[16:43]
sylvieg	You are not able to see the columns?	[16:44]
tim432	right now i am unable to login as an admin either there is no login option anywhere on the site, it is usually in in the top bar	[16:44]
sylvieg	tiki-login_scr.php I lost again the page - that explain the style difference in 3	[16:45]
tim432	k logged in now	[16:46]
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tim432	still same issue with the look&feel (and all options under Admin Home) - i am unable to see anything, the box is on the far right of the screen partially hidden by 2 modules	[16:47]
chibaguy	tim432, what theme are you using?	[16:48]
tim432	moreneat	[16:48]
chibaguy	it's no longer compatible	[16:48]
tim432	is there a way to revert back to a default and choose a new theme in 3.0?	[16:48]
sylvieg	tiki-admin.php?page=look	[16:49]
chibaguy	you could delete templates/moreneat/ tpl files that would force the use of default templates and probably allow the page to be seen (delete or rename templates/moreneat/ )	[16:49]
tim432	sylvieg - the L&F page still displays the same chibaguy - ill try that	[16:51]
sylvieg	did you change the theme in this apge?	[16:51]
tim432	i didnt, but the moreneat theme probably did	[16:52]
chibaguy	(I mean templates/styles/moreneat)	[16:54]
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tim432	chibaguy - that worked, which themes are 3.0? all of the options seem to be the same 2.2	[16:55]
chibaguy	in tiki 3.0, coelesce, darkroom, feb12, strasa, thenews, and tikinewt are in the package.	[16:56]
workerbee	When is the expected release of version 3?	[16:56]
chibaguy	but if you have upgraded from tiki 2, you need to delete the tiki 2 version files from their templates/styles/ directories. since these themes now use the default template files.	[16:57]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18950 10/branches/3.0/ (. templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl): tikiwiki: Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r18929 \| pkdille \| 2009-05-20 08:56:51 +0200 (mer. 20 mai 2009) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [FIX] list_file_gallery: look fix only. Both tabs cannot be "active" when we arrive on that template	[16:58]
chibaguy	darkroom, feb12, thenews, and tikinewt should have only index.php and credits.tpl in their templates/styles/(themename) directories	[16:59]
tim432	chibaguy - ok i just cleaned up those theme folders	[17:02]
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sacra	hi, I have an issue with logins and a DNS alias if I access the site with http://my.server.name/tikiwiki/, logins work OK if I access it with http://my.server.alias, they don't work I think this is something with the session cookie generation, but I'm not sure	[17:05]
chibaguy	tim432, any improvement?	[17:07]
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sacra	do I need any special config if I use a DNS alias?	[17:08]
sylvieg	sacra: I have a site like that - I did not notice any pb	[17:09]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18951 10/branches/proposed/lang/fr/language.php: [QT] Rollback changes on language.php since it has to be commited to the stable branch directly	[17:10]
sacra	maybe it's the way I configured the apache virtual host	[17:11]
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sacra	is there an example of how it should be configured for TW?	[17:12]
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sacra	hmm, I think that's it made a small change and it worked, just need to figure out how to do it without breaking the rest :)	[17:15]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18952 10/trim/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Allow basic installation through FTP (requires curlftpfs)	[17:18]
sacra	got it :) sylvieg: I think I'll commit some of the LDAP stuff we talked about into proposed	[17:20]
tim432	chibaguy - yeah its good now, just a few adjustments to be made, but thanks a bunch	[17:21]
sylvieg	sacra : cool - I still no time to finish my fixes - too many parallels jobs	[17:22]
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chibaguy	tim432: good to hear. :-)	[17:33]
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tim432	did the iframe plugin change? the syntax looks the same in 3.0 as in 2.2 but none of my iframes are showing up	[17:34]
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sylvieg	tim432: did you enable the plugin>	[17:44]
tim432	the mods says You will probably some find mods shown as being compatible with older versions of Tiki will work with later versions with little or no modification. Your help is needed! Please visit dev.tikiwiki.org to find out more. i cant enable it for some reason	[17:50]
marclaporte	tim432: : iframe is now bundled	[17:52]
tim432	thats what i thought, but it isn't working. it was previously in 2.2 and i just upgraded to 3.0	[17:54]
marclaporte	did you try various browsers? I heard of white page issue on ie7	[18:01]
tim432	same in FF and IE, it says IFRAME Plugin Disabled	[18:07]
sylvieg	tim432: tiki-admin.php?page=textarea#tab2 it is where you enable it	[18:07]
tim432	that works appreciate it	[18:09]
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franck	The duplicate tracker code is broken with mirror tables. I had to create the tables myself in mysql	[18:12]
marclaporte	franck: : miror tables is unmaintained should be pulled out of Tiki no maitainer for 2+ years. It's dead	[18:14]
franck	yes, if there is a transition path	[18:14]
marclaporte	and there has been a warning in admin panel for a long time	[18:14]
franck	or a converter from old tables to new I have sites with mirror tables	[18:14]
marclaporte	ok, so who should do this transition path?	[18:15]
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marclaporte	I think realistically, no one will ever volunteer for that franck: here is a friendly challenge to prove me wrong :-) I made a big mistake a long time ago mose was against adding this feature	[18:16]
sylvieg	franck: usually peoplem export the database in csv format and import	[18:17]
franck	I think mirror tables is great but never been used to potential	[18:17]
marclaporte	It was added by gillesm just before a release	[18:17]
sylvieg	seems to be easy	[18:17]
marclaporte	I also think it has amazing potential and this is why I argued with mose to let it be added to the code.	[18:18]
franck	well the mirror table code has not been pulled out from 3.0?	[18:18]
marclaporte	and in this case, mose was correct. It should never have been accepted nowadays, we can accept as experimental. So at least, people are warned that they should be careful	[18:18]
	franck: : no, it was not pulled to because some people like you, xavi and others are stuck with data	[18:30]
franck	ok	[18:30]
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marclaporte	franck: : I hope we can dump in 4.0: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/RoadMap#Release_schedule	[18:32]
franck	or keep?	[18:32]
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franck	marclaporte: in your roadmap, you should include stuff under the hood, like improve API, add tests to the code, etc...	[18:36]
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marclaporte	just tell me where to find enough coders and I will gladly put more stuff	[18:38]
franck	hehe	[18:38]
marclaporte	improve API: that is fluff everyone says that	[18:38]
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marclaporte	and when I ask for specific examples, I never get an answer	[18:39]
franck	marclaporte: yes, so you need to divide tht in things more specific	[18:39]
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franck	well for instance, one single place to have a text entry be it in wiki, comments, blog, etc... ensure the text entry is the same code called from API	[18:39]
ricks99	Q: is there a script I run run against all my wiki pages (in the db) that will automatically create wiki links, if they're not there already? for example, if page FOO has the text ALPHA BETA and a page named ALPHA BETA exists, is there a script I can run to change it to ((ALPHA BETA)) ?	[18:41]
marclaporte	ricks99: : never heard of that but there is hotwords	[18:42]
franck	another thing is documenting the code, adopt something like doxygen, and start documenting the code	[18:43]
ricks99	would b very helpful when porting docs/pages/etc into tiki hm... hotwords... maybe... tx marc hm.. .hotwords do not create backlinks :(	[18:43]
marclaporte	franck: http://de.tikiwiki.org/dox-BRANCH-3-0/html/ ricks99: : yup	[18:44]
franck	marclaporte: cool	[18:44]
ricks99	bummer really would like/need to have back links created too how do others approach this problem when creating a tiki from existing content?	[18:44]
FF\|Skyriderz	When I go to my own tikiwiki site, for example: wiki.xxxxx.com/pagehere shouldn't it say "pagehere doesn't exist, do you wish to create it"? or something like that	[18:54]
ricks99	deepnds... do u have the "if page does not exist go to similar" option?	[18:55]
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FF\|Skyriderz	I don't want it to go to similar honestly :o, or.. that option also asks you to create the page if not existing?	[18:55]
ricks99	then make sure u have that option off. :)	[18:55]
FF\|Skyriderz	Honestly..	[18:55]
ricks99	do u have perm to create new pages? it should allow u to create the page	[18:56]
FF\|Skyriderz	when I go to any page that does not exists it refers me back to the main site I can create sites, but as mentioned above.. if I manually type in a name to go to, it just goes back to the wiki site. the homepage	[18:56]
ricks99	try non-sefurl tiki-index.php?page=foo	[18:57]
FF\|Skyriderz	same back to main page	[18:59]
ricks99	this in 3.0?	[19:01]
FF\|Skyriderz	yup 3.0 RC1 worked fine	[19:01]
luminoso	i have a bug that is: on image upload to image galleries my php upload limit is 200MB. i upload a zip file with 13MB. i get an error: file size exceeded. any tip on this? i changed from images on database to images in directory. tested with single photo upload and zip with 2/3 photos and no problem.	[19:02]
FF\|Skyriderz	timeout?	[19:03]
luminoso	timeout can produce the size limit error?	[19:03]
ricks99	@luminoso: if u r using a shred host, ur provider may impose limits that override your specific php.ini i have seen this many times @FF\|Skyriderz: don't know. sorry	[19:03]
luminoso	ricks99, i've uploaded bigger files before with RC1	[19:03]
FF\|Skyriderz	alrighty, thanks though	[19:03]
luminoso	also. i may test with RC1. i stil have a parallel version installed	[19:04]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03wggley * r18955 10/trunk/lang/ (15 files in 14 dirs): [FIX] Displaying name of user instead of login based on the user_show_realnames preference.	[19:43]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18956 10/trim/src/appinfo/tikiwiki.php: [NEW] Update support for FTP instances	[20:51]
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luminoso	ok now i am shore that is a bug! i have a 30MB zip file with photos. php post/upload limit: 200MB	[21:05]
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luminoso	i upload the photos to image gallerie and i get error: "file size exceeded" i upload it to file galleries: no problem	[21:06]
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luminoso	anyone?	[21:12]
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SEWilco2	luminoso: Maybe the image galleries and file galleries are treating zip files differently. I don't recall if they do that, or if there are configuration options. SEWilco2 notices the cache wastebaskets are never full.	[21:18]
luminoso	SEWilco2, i am only uploading 30MB is not that much, is it? :-[21:20] <luminoso> SEWilco2, with who or where can i talk more about this?	[21:19]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18957 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]SUBSCRIBEGROUPS: groupHome link + wysiwyg on unassign	[21:21]
SEWilco2	luminoso: There is a forum, or try at a different time. Others might be asleep or commuting right now.	[21:21]
luminoso	SEWilco2, what is the forum link please?	[21:21]
SEWilco2	30MB is the size of the zip, but the contents are larger? I don't know how that might be handled.	[21:22]
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luminoso	SEWilco2, JPEGs are all smaller than 1MB average 350KB :-[21:24] <luminoso> !help	[21:23]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r18958 10/trim/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Site locking during updates	[21:38]
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tim432	is anyone having problems adding a Google Gadget to a wiki page using the JS plugin? I am getting an "Information is temp. unavailable" when displaying the app.	[21:40]
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HerrPi	How do I show a module (e.g. shoutbox) only when clicked on one specific menu item?? I know about the module parameter "page" but that seems only to be for wiki pages???	[22:10]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18959 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]SUBSCRIBEGROUPS: defaulturl option	[22:24]
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luminoso	HerrPi, no ideia idea	[22:30]
HerrPi	well... very sad!! but this has to be possible!!!	[22:31]
sylvieg	I do not think so	[22:31]
HerrPi	why not? shouldn't this be one of the minimum requirements of such a system that i can decide when to display certain modules and when not??	[22:32]
luminoso	sylvieg, are u a developer? i never know who are the developers on this channel :x	[22:32]
sylvieg	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Module+Parameters&structure=Documentation it is not here Yeh I am an devalopper it is easy to do - nut nobody did it HerrPi: develop it yourself - I can help - or find a consultant	[22:32]
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HerrPi	well, on that page it says "page" as a parameter. but does this refer only to wiki page names??	[22:35]
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sylvieg	no it is wiki page	[22:36]
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sylvieg	- should fix trhe doc tiki-modules.php is easy to patch with something like url= HerrPi: can you php a little bit?	[22:36]
HerrPi	yeah!	[22:37]
sylvieg	lok at tiki-modules.php do you see something like if ($pass == 'y' && isset($module_params['section'] ...	[22:37]
HerrPi	ok, and there i could add someting for url or anything... yeah...	[22:38]
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HerrPi	and what would you suggest?	[22:40]
sylvieg	just after you will have to do somethink like if ($pass == 'y' && isset($module_params['url']) && $module_params['url'] == $_SESSION[....])) $pass='y'; I let you find the SESSSION var that = your url and the after you wil add url=your_url in the params in admin->module	[22:40]
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HerrPi	so then i could just enter the urls (i.e. the php pages actually) i wish to see the shoutbox, for example?	[22:42]
sylvieg	yeh more or alees - but if you can program php - I think you can figure this out and if you figreu out - you are welcome to commit back to trunk	[22:44]
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HerrPi	yay, i guess so... cool thing, and already i've joined the community! :-) ok, i'll try that tomorrow... thanks a lot, i'll come back when there are more questions! :-) byebye everyone!	[22:45]
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nyloth	Hi all	[23:00]
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marclaporte	hi nyloth! Can I call you mister quality? :-)	[23:09]
nyloth	lol I hope I'm not alone to worry about quality :)	[23:09]
ricks99_	hi mr quality :)	[23:11]
marclaporte	:-) :-) :-)	[23:14]
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snarlydwarf	with image galleries being pretty much deprecated, it would be nice to have some way to convert image gals to file gals	[23:20]
nyloth	:) snarlydwarf: yes, sure, it's planned for 4.x	[23:21]
snarlydwarf	and some way to hash directories or something so we don't have 19209130 files in the same dir? i did a cheapo hack for that for image gals on my system (i futz with the db and cheat) but it breaks thumb nail caching :P	[23:22]
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luminoso	sylvieg, can you take a look at this please? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2517&trackerId=5&show=view&offset=1250&reloff=32&cant=1283&status=o&trackerId=5&sort_mode=f_41_desc	[23:54]

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