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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19108 10/trunk/ (tiki-admin_categories.php tiki-view_tracker_more_info.php): [FIX] Zend Recommendation tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19109 10/trunk/ (7 files): [FIX] Zend Recommendation	[06:37]
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heavenmaster	Hello! I'm still in trouble with - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33201#threadId6	[06:42]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19110 10/trunk/ (20 files): [FIX] Zend Recommendation	[06:43]
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chibaguy	heavenmaster, what is your server OS? *nix or windows?	[07:04]
heavenmaster	Unfortunetely - windows	[07:06]
chibaguy	ah, apache or iis?	[07:06]
heavenmaster	apache 2.2 mysql 5 php 5	[07:07]
chibaguy	Did you have some conversation here already about this? Seems like I remember...	[07:08]
heavenmaster	I asked yesterday and also created a forum branch - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33201#threadId6	[07:09]
chibaguy	I use xampp server for testing, and it works ok, but my tiki installations are in subdirectories of htdocs. Beestje said there were bugs if running in www root.	[07:12]
heavenmaster	I use DENWER wich is locacalized alternative. And yes.. i run in from www/tiki	[07:15]
chibaguy	so tiki is in a subdirectory of www?	[07:16]
heavenmaster	yep I do not have enough expirience to use from different location..	[07:16]
chibaguy	is your server on internet, or just local/intranet,etc.?	[07:20]
heavenmaster	I test it on my local PC	[07:21]
chibaguy	so you use a url like http://localhost/?	[07:22]
heavenmaster	ye	[07:23]
chibaguy	hmm, but only a blank page?	[07:23]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19113 10/trunk/ (308 files): [FIX] Zend Recommendation [tiki-*]	[07:25]
heavenmaster	yes	[07:25]
chibaguy	does this file get served: http://localhost/tiki/favicon.png ?	[07:26]
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heavenmaster	It does	[07:27]
chibaguy	are there files in tiki's templates_c directory?	[07:27]
heavenmaster	Also if I modify tiki-index.php adding 'echo' at any line - i see the result on the screen.	[07:28]
chibaguy	I don't know what causes the different behavior, since my server has no problem, and assuming the Tiki files are the same in both cases. unless the server configuration is different, or something set in Windows itself. (but I don't know much about servers or Windows ,so everything in my setup is default, as far as I know.)	[07:31]
heavenmaster	I've posted php.ini and httpd.conf on forum http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=33201 My problem is that I am looking for free alternative to Atlassian Confluence and TikiWiki looks like the best..	[07:33]
marclaporte	best how?	[07:37]
chibaguy	It's a recogized problem that Tiki doesn't work consistently on Windows. Here's a link: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Operating+System+independence hi marclaporte	[07:37]
marclaporte	polom chibaguy	[07:38]
chibaguy	heavenmaster, are you planning to run Tiki (as alternative to Atlassian Confluence) on your present server? Or are you just testing now, and will deploy on another public server? (just wondering if the live site will have the same problem)	[07:39]
heavenmaster	chibaguy: I do not see there any similiar case.. marclaporte: best as wiki + groupware	[07:41]
marclaporte	I often get questions about tiki vs confluence, but I have no idea	[07:43]
chibaguy	I think the blank-page problem must be caused by a server or OS configuration detail. Tiki runs fine on my WindowsXP xampp server, so it is possible. The question is what is making the difference. (assuming the installation is complete and the same in both cases)	[07:45]
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heavenmaster	Ok, thnx for your help... I think I should find smth else..	[08:05]
chibaguy	Sorry for the trouble, heavenmaster. Maybe you can check back later on. Maybe some solutions will be found. (or there will be better docs for running on Windows)	[08:09]
heavenmaster	Ok. I'll continue watching the forum.	[08:10]
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reisedirkus	Hi!	[08:31]
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reisedirkus	Yeterday I upgraded my Porsche Tiki (1.911) ;-) to the 2.4 version Tried to update to 3.0 but released, that there is no PHP5. After copying back the whole 2.4 directory (the DB I upgraded right after install) all file galleries are lost. No, its not right - the galleries are there, but I do not see them. If I click at the 'Move' Button in the Galleries I can choose from all galleries I had in 1.911. Any ideas?	[08:32]
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chibaguy	reisedirkus, so you need a "downgrade" install script? ;-)	[08:40]
reisedirkus	Not really, I want only the file galleries back I did no DB upgrade for 3.0 - only from 1.9 to 2.4	[08:44]
chibaguy	oh, I see.	[08:45]
reisedirkus	The files are in the DB - from the links in the wiki I can download them, but I have no access to the File gallery functionality I also can not create any new gallery - so the error seems to be somewhere there.	[08:46]
chibaguy	apparently a problem in the 1.911 -> 2.4 upgrade?	[08:48]
reisedirkus	Hmmm, maybe, but I had no error messages (or I ignored them ;-) ) - No I did not see any	[08:48]
chibaguy	Did you install the 3.0 files, and then put back the 2.4 files?	[08:50]
reisedirkus	chibaguy: Should I try to go back to 1.9.11 (backup and DB-dump are here) and try the upgrade again.? Yes, I copied the 3.0 files, but the installer said that PHP5 is needed - I did not check it before, and my provider has only PHP4 (so far)	[08:51]
chibaguy	I don't know. Seems like the fewer changes, the better. I wonder if it is possible that not all the 2.4 files are in place.	[08:52]
reisedirkus	So it seems to me, that 3.0 did not change anything...	[08:53]
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reisedirkus	Of course I can try to copy them again from the SF-Download there...	[08:53]
chibaguy	I would try that first.	[08:54]
reisedirkus	Maybe, I will start with this - copying the 2.4 again and then go back to 1.9.11 and start from the scratch.	[08:54]
chibaguy	Assuming the database wasn't touched by the 3.0 installer (probably true), then the difference would be in the file system.	[08:54]
reisedirkus	Thanks so far! I'll be back! :-)	[08:54]
chibaguy	ok	[08:55]
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mib_ovkqjj	Hi everyone - can anyone think why I cant see the header i put in the CSS if I log out as admin. It is perfect when I am admin but as a registered or anonymous user it disappears, that and a thumbnail image. I have cleared the cache and my php memory is 64 mb	[09:58]
Beestje	are you using 3.0? and are all users set to the same theme?	[10:07]
mib_ovkqjj	im using 2.3 i'm not sure about the theme - how do I check that?	[10:08]
Beestje	it's in the admin page for look & feel : tiki-admin.php?page=look	[10:09]
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mib_ovkqjj	I dont see where it says what theme other users see - i have altered the modern css with my header though - are other users just seeing the original modern theme?	[10:13]
Beestje	best way to find out is to copy the theme under a different name and change eg the background color of the main page or something. then as admin set the theme to your custom theme and then display the page as registered or anonymous. this way you can easily figure out whether the same theme is being displayed for all users	[10:14]
mib_ovkqjj	ok thanks - i am an amateur (obviously) is there a tutorial for doing this?	[10:17]
Beestje	just copy and rename the css file and the folder belonging to the css file in the styles directory so copy styles/modern.css to styles/customblabla.css and copy/rename the directory as well afterwards go to the look & feel adminpage and you can select your customblabla theme	[10:18]
mib_ovkqjj	ok! i will give it a shot! thanks:)	[10:19]
Beestje	np	[10:19]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19114 10/trunk/tiki-register_ajax.php: [FIX] Zend Recommendation	[11:21]
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jonnyb	polom! :)	[11:33]
luciash	polom!	[11:33]
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jonnyb	luciash: how's your eclipse? i'm still fighting with mine :	[11:33]
luciash	my ganymede is fine :)	[11:34]
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luciash	didn't try the PDT flavour yet, because it didn't download properly last time	[11:35]
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jonnyb	luciash: i'm getting out of memory problems in PDT debugging tiki - i think it's just too much for it!	[11:42]
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jonnyb	who is changi67, anyone know? i didn't see any discussion of this global removal of the closing php tag recently (not too bothered either way - i like conflict ;) )	[11:44]
luciash	jonnyb: ouch :) jonnyb: i have no idea now who it is	[11:45]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19116 10/trunk/lib/wiki/ (9 files): [FIX] Zend Recommendation [wiki]	[11:47]
jonnyb	it does seem very bold - the last time we discussed this on devel it seemed a moot point, some pro (reduces errors) and some con (syntactically incorrect), so nothing happened	[11:47]
sylvieg	changi67 = Jean-François B. in sourceforge pannel..	[11:49]
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jonnyb	polom sylvieg - thanks, i was just a bit surprised, not meaning to complain :)	[11:51]
sylvieg	I do not know him ... but jonnyb if you do not like this - better to tell now...	[11:51]
jonnyb	I was just thinking that there were people who didn't like this, i'm really not that bothered as long as it doesn't break anything (obviously)	[11:54]
luciash	jonnyb: i just thought it could be better just to comment the ?> out with a short explanation maybe to prevent users trying to "fix" the missing PHP closing tags again	[11:55]
sylvieg	luciash: +1	[11:57]
eromneg	jonnyb: hi - did you implement the recent changes to categorize.tpl to produce the 'nice' hierarchical listings?	[12:00]
jonnyb	yes, that were me i know it needs some tweeks	[12:00]
eromneg	I'm getting quite a big problem - just sent a mail to the dev list	[12:02]
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eromneg	really want to check that its not me doing something stupid - do you have any sitse with hierarchy of categories?	[12:03]
jonnyb	a couple - and i made some fake ones (but that's never like the real world)	[12:03]
eromneg	the problem I'm seeing is that users in categories not at the 'top' do not see their available categories in edit	[12:05]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19117 10/trunk/lib/ (101 files in 33 dirs): [FIX] Zend Recommendation	[12:06]
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luciash	this is weird bug: i recently changed my e-mail on tw.o and the change reflects on doc.tw.o and dev.tw.o too, but still the watched items go to my old e-mail address :-[12:20] *** franck_ has joined #tikiwiki	[12:20]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19118 10/trunk/styles/coelesce.css: tikiwiki: [FIX] Style COElesce fix box style for sucker fish menu, else the submenu is tikiwiki: hidden :(	[12:20]
luciash	(from trackers)	[12:20]
eromneg	jonnyb: I've just used the old 2.4 categorize.tpl in a new 3.0 site and the problem goes away	[12:22]
luciash	forums and wiki page notifications go to correct email though	[12:22]
jonnyb	eromneg: aha - just getting to your mail how is a user "in" a category? shall we skype?	[12:23]
eromneg	sorry - mean they are in a Group that the category has set permissions for skype is good I'll just fire it up	[12:24]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r19119 10/trunk/lib/ (201 files in 44 dirs): [FIX] Zend Recommendation lib/p* tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19120 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [ENH] New smarty plugin : I added {tabset} and {tab} block smarty plugin to tikiwiki: ease the writting of templates using tabs. These block smarty plugins tikiwiki: take care of the tabs/no tabs button and degrade gracefully if tikiwiki: $prefs['feature_tabs'] is not set. You can have multiple tabset on a page tikiwiki: but they could not be nested, though it should not be difficult to do so tikiwiki: on popular request ;p tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19121 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_features.php: [FIX] left over from commit 19120	[12:27]
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chibaguy	chibaguy wonders how sept_7 could think a bug was hiding Coelesce suckerfish submenus for all these months. . . . The module just needs a overflow=y parameter; docs aren't up to date.	[12:36]
luciash	luciash wonders how he fixed it breaking other stuff	[12:38]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19122 10/trunk/ (4 files): tikiwiki: [FIX] fix unwanted access to multiple instances of tikiwiki on the same tikiwiki: server. This is done by specifiying a tikiroot as the cookie_path at the tikiwiki: creation of the session cookie. Seems to work, comments ?	[12:38]
luciash	just wanted to report this :-p we would comment if sept_7 comes here :)	[12:40]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[12:42]
luciash	hi chibaguy	[12:42]
chibaguy	as we talked about before, it would be good if the cssmenu overflow in a module could be automatic (not require a parameter to be set).	[12:43]
luciash	match '{menu' in the module data ?	[12:45]
chibaguy	maybe so, or something even more specific. the div.box of a module with a css menu has a class like "box-css_menu43", so maybe that could be used.	[12:47]
luciash	but the id can be different i don't remember on which div is the overflow set	[12:51]
chibaguy	on the box page source looks like this: <div class="box box-css_menu43" style="overflow:visible !important"> I don't think the menu id should be in the box-cssmenu class, but rather in an id.	[12:51]
luciash	hmm	[12:53]
chibaguy	something like <div class="box box-css_menu" id="menu43">	[12:53]
luciash	but then you can have a conflict	[12:53]
chibaguy	does that make sense?	[12:53]
luciash	what about <div class="box css_menu menu43"> ?	[12:54]
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chibaguy	yeah, that'd be good	[12:55]
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chibaguy	anyway, then in css we can have box.css_menu {overflow:visible} where's the code for this, any idea?	[12:56]
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luciash	chibaguy: moduůe.tpl chibaguy: module.tpl	[13:11]
chibaguy	that's where the div gets its class?	[13:11]
luciash	yes templates/module.tpl bbl	[13:14]
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TimJ	hi there I have an issue during install ... my server only can access the net through a proxy, so the installer cannot download the profiles	[13:33]
chibaguy	hm, in templates/modules, I see div.box gets $module_name as a class...so how is $module_name set? Hi TimJ. I don't know if that's been worked out yet.	[13:35]
TimJ	is there a way to configure php/apache to use the proxy? or could I pre-download the profiles to a local folder?	[13:37]
ricks99	@TimJ: use the default profile, then apply specific profile after the install.	[13:37]
TimJ	ah ok	[13:37]
ricks99	set ur proxy in general: admin then on admin: profiles, you can browse and apply any specific profile to your existing site. i believe the profiles/tikiwiki.org repository is added (by default) to new 3.0 installs.	[13:37]
luciash	chibaguy: grep --color -InER 'module_name' ./*	[13:41]
TimJ	ricks99&chibaguy: thanks a lot	[13:42]
ricks99	why do plugins continuously become disabled on doc.tw.o? does/will this happen each time doc.tw.o is svn'd up?	[13:55]
TimJ	me again ... I changed the proxy settings in admin/general to no effect so far	[14:04]
ricks99	cant see profiles on admin: profiles page?	[14:06]
TimJ	jupp, but none listen even after refresh of http://profiles.tikiwiki.org	[14:09]
jonnyb	does anyone here know about intertiki much? (should it work on 2 multitiki's on the same server?)	[14:10]
ricks99	hm.. sounds like proxy issue still :(	[14:10]
sylvieg	jonnyb: not necessary - it is a xmlrpc connection	[14:10]
jonnyb	sylvieg: intertiki not necessary you mean?	[14:11]
sylvieg	you can have 2 tikis on opne servers , and 3 on another one - and by using the multitiki feature - have an united login	[14:12]
jonnyb	oh? is there a doc for that? i just want 2 sites on one server (multitiki's) to use the same user info	[14:13]
sylvieg	TimJ: I do not know if it helps but on my fedora I have a bug - I need to reboot the apache manually after each server reboot - because apache does not re-read the dns table and I have a 'picky' conf	[14:13]
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sylvieg	jonnyb: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=MultiTiki	[14:16]
jonnyb	thanks sylvieg - i don't see anything there about sharing the user/group data though (scoured those pages getting it working in the first place) - i thought that's what intertiki is for	[14:18]
sylvieg	.. there is another page... http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Intertiki	[14:20]
jonnyb	thanks - looks like it's been tidied up since my last visit jonnyb reading	[14:21]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19123 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_invite.php: [MOD]INVITE: option itemId to pick up the defautl group from a tracker item	[14:22]
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idle-	hi, i just installed a new tiki 3.0 and imported an 2.4rc0 database to it. now it's saying "WARNING: Plugin disabled toc!" with {toc max-depth=1} under admin/home toc is enabled	[14:36]
luciash	jonnyb: i also got issues on the demo site with the wysiwyg coe branch idle-: cached ?	[14:36]
idle-	luciash: cached?	[14:37]
luciash	idle-: is it cached ?	[14:37]
jonnyb	luciash: glad it's not just me/safari ;)	[14:37]
idle-	ah ok. one moment	[14:37]
luciash	idle-: maybe the page content is in wiki cache	[14:37]
idle-	luciash: under cache it shows "no datasets"	[14:38]
luciash	idle-: do you have wiki cache option when you edit the page ?	[14:39]
idle-	luciash: doesn't seems so.	[14:40]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19124 10/trunk/styles/coelesce.css: tikiwiki: Rollback of 19118 [FIX] Style COElesce fix box style for sucker fish menu, else tikiwiki: the submenu is hidden :( tikiwiki: Workaround for the moment if you use suckerfish specify an overflow=y tikiwiki: parameter for the module containing the menu as pointed out tikiwiki: by Gary Cunningham-Lee	[14:44]
luciash	idle-: you have structures feature enabled ?	[14:50]
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luciash	idle-: i don't know why but i think the upgrade puts them off	[14:51]
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sacra	Hi In 2.4, tiki-orphan_pages.php crashes when I try to filter by category is it just me?	[15:05]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19126 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]tracker: option to keep the default group when replacing the group creator field	[15:26]
jonnyb	sacra: yup, i get it too - "Input array does not match ? etc" at the top and an sql error	[15:28]
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xavi	toctoc	[15:30]
luciash	cotcot	[15:31]
jonnyb	sacra: seem ok in 3.0 tho	[15:31]
luciash	no categories here :-p	[15:31]
	sacra: yes, fixed in 3.0	[15:36]
sacra	is there an easy way to diff the file between branches online?	[15:36]
luciash	sacra: yes, via sf.net browse SVN	[15:37]
sacra	it's actually tiki-listpages.php the problem luciash: and? I can diff between revisions in the same branch but between a file in two branches?	[15:37]
	if I had checked-out the branches in linux, it would be simple but I did it in windows, so I feel crippled :P	[15:43]
chibaguy	I guess you could compare the files in WinMerge that's what I do	[15:45]
sacra	I'll get that then	[15:48]
chibaguy	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13216	[15:50]
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xavi	sacra, fyi: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tools (and select windows or multiplatform) winmerge is listed there also hi chibaguy and cotcot-luciash	[15:50]
chibaguy	hi xavi, your greeting seems to mutate ;-)	[15:52]
xavi	:-) btw, I''ve just realized that years ago, I didn't include winmerge in tehre... I'll add it right now I'ev been teaching a work-mate some hours ago about using winmerge .....	[15:53]
luciash	heheh	[15:54]
xavi	until he uses krusader + kompare when he migrates to free software o.s. ;-) hopefully soon :-)	[15:54]
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luciash	luciash tries to use multiplatform apps to prevent this but forcing and locking someone to free software is always good ;) not the other way around ! :-p	[15:55]
xavi	luciash, I also try to use multiplatform tools as much as possible, for the same reason (migration to FLOSS is much easier and pleasant) but I couldn't find any decent multiplatform synchro and merging tool (waiting for the kde4windows crew to add krusader and kompare or kdiff3 ;-) )	[15:57]
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luciash	xavi: eclipse + subclipse plugin works nicely for SVN xavi: well, it's not decent, right :)	[16:27]
xavi	Eclipse is not for newbies :-) I'll let you add that tip on that page if it works well for you	[16:27]
luciash	xavi: maybe me and jonny can add there some tips	[16:28]
xavi	xavi is learning at work how to use netbeans, and he's succeeding... but he is afraid of attempting the same with eclipse (got lost in the past with it) luciash and jonny, please :-)	[16:28]
luciash	yesterday i just downloaded eclipse classic 3.4.2 to my ubuntu, unpacked and it works much better than the one provided by synaptics	[16:29]
xavi	yes, same for with with netbans	[16:29]
luciash	works with subclipse at least ;) now i just need php syntax support or try the PDT Eclipse all-in-one package	[16:29]
xavi	my last attempt with eclipse was the months before my ph.d. submissions (a couple of years ago), when I wanted some IDE to compile Fortran 90 on any platform... and there is a Eclipse-flavour for fortran.... however, didn't work out of the box for newbies (as I am still), so I skiped that, and end up compiling fortran using the command line, etc. Photran it was called, afair anyway, not many fortran programers in this channel, I guess :-)	[16:30]
luciash	heheh, that seems right	[16:33]
jonnyb	i just started again with the eclipse pdt all in one package, then added subclipse (the zend one wouldn't let me install subclipse) - seems to work ok apart from out of memory errors while debugging sometimes	[16:33]
luciash	jonnyb: good news	[16:33]
jonnyb	jonnyb fighting the temptation to try aptana app again...	[16:34]
luciash	jonnyb: don't waste your time ;)	[16:35]
jonnyb	but the autocomplete and colouring on css & html is _so_ nice! :) oh, and validation	[16:36]
Caarrie	jonnyb: tried textwrangler?	[16:37]
jonnyb	by the way, this is a nice time-waster - http://code.google.com/p/smartypdt/ - i haven't managed to get it working on 3.4, but it was great on 3.1 or thereabouts Caarrie: no, i bought a license for bbedit ages ago, so they've sort of got me ;)	[16:37]
Caarrie	ok ;)	[16:38]
jonnyb	is it nice?	[16:38]
Caarrie	yea i like it best free text editor i have found for my macbook	[16:38]
jonnyb	i'll try it out (one day) - free is good!	[16:39]
Caarrie	yep http://birch.barebones.com/TextWrangler_2.3.dmg ^^ no excuse	[16:39]
jonnyb	same people as bbedit	[16:40]
Caarrie	yep	[16:40]
jonnyb	(thought it looked familiar)	[16:40]
Caarrie	though i dont like to pay for software unless i _have_ to for example i did pay for a screenshot utility that also does video on my macbook	[16:40]
jonnyb	it was the nineties, and bbedit could edit 20MB files without falling over	[16:40]
Caarrie	http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/	[16:41]
luciash	jonnyb: i have autocomplete and colouring with Eclipse too and validation i think html editor from WST does that, and for PHP and Smarty phpclipse did the job	[16:46]
jonnyb	aptana has a nice ftp/sync tool too, but it was taking 10 seconds for each php debug step, or more - what's the WST editor? I've seen the initials before	[16:52]
xavi	hi jonnyb, since I've been playing today with tiki sheets in tiki3, I was wondering about the possible roadmap for the jquery sheet plugin-thingy for tiki3.1.... (whenever it's released) what do you think? xavi is fighting with sheets on dev.tw.o (I can't import a sheet right now, even if this morning I did succeed also on dev.tw.o...)	[16:56]
jonnyb	very unlikely from me i'm afraid - fully booked until 3.1 - 3.2 maybe?	[16:58]
sacra	the search in tikiwiki.org/Home seems to return a WSOD quite often	[17:00]
xavi	ok, then, can I book that for 3.2 then ? :-) (like getting a order-ticket as when someone goes to the doctor?)	[17:00]
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xavi	jonnyb: I would use it for production from september onwards, with my students.	[17:02]
	oh well, for clarification: tiki sheet importing works well. it was me who exported the wrong sheet first (human error)	[17:11]
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grobda24	grobda24 says hola !	[17:20]
luciash	jonnyb: WST - Web Standards Toolkit for Eclipse ?	[17:21]
grobda24	Are these the right instructions for 3.0 htaccess rewriting ? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Rewrite+Rules#comments&highlight=htaccess	[17:23]
luciash	jonnyb: sorry, mixed it up, it's called WDT - Web Developer Tools	[17:24]
jonnyb	luciash: aha - yes, i was browsing them - another thing for "later" :)	[17:25]
luciash	jonnyb: to be found under Ganymede Update Site > Web and Java EE Development in the 3.4.2 Software Updates	[17:25]
jonnyb	thx luciash - i don't have them installed - you recommend?	[17:27]
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xavi	grobda24: I guess so. Moreover, you can use the ones inlcuded in the bundled _htaccess	[17:36]
grobda24	xavi ... yes it is the correct page - it is listed in .htaccess file in tiki dir. This was already .htaccess (not _htaccess), I guess setup must have activated it.	[17:37]
luciash	jonnyb: i'm installing it now, i'll let you know ;) btw, it includes WST so i wasn't totally dreaming about it ;)	[17:38]
xavi	grobda24: ok, then, I guess so.	[17:38]
grobda24	Are there specific instructions for making Tikiwiki seem to be in the root www host directory (I have it installed in tiki/) ... or do I use the usual .htaccess rules available for this through google ?	[17:39]
luciash	grobda24: you can have a symlink on linux servers	[17:40]
grobda24	luciash, how .... an index.php symlink in the top dir ?	[17:41]
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xavi	grobda24: search for symlink howtos on the internet or just add the contents of tiki in your www-root directory which would be much easier, I guess	[17:49]
grobda24	xavi, oh I see, you just symlink the whole lot of files ? I want to keep it in a subdir because I may install other apps.	[17:59]
luciash	grobda24: you just rename your public_html/ and create symlinka named public_html pointing to renamed_public_html/tiki/	[18:00]
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luciash	or if you have already one there called www, it's even easier make it point to public_html/tiki/ instead of public_html/	[18:02]
grobda24	luciash, oh gotcha ! :D Thanks for the help luciash and xavi	[18:02]
xavi	luciash: do you know how to set openid in a profile? when I set "Tiki and openid" in my local trial", I see only "preference auth_method set" I mean, don't know how to write in the profile: auth_method= XXX anyway, I guess it might not be possible at this stage	[18:07]
luciash	auth_method='something'	[18:13]
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luciash	i guess	[18:13]
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jonnyb	on the subject of profiles - does anyone know if you can add a user to a group with one?	[18:18]
xavi	no idea, jonnyb. In fact, I'm afraid users can't be added through profiles. I tried with Exchange_market, and marclaporte told me I cound't through profiles (several months ago). HTH	[18:20]
jonnyb	doesn't look like it (from the source) would need a new handler i guess i managed to get setting up user and group trackers working properly though - fix coming to trunk soon	[18:20]
xavi	well done :-)	[18:22]
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jonnyb	thanks xavi, i was chuffed, profiles is a scary place ;)	[18:30]
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xavi	jonnyb: :-)	[18:30]
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xavi	xavi is afraid that ksp needs a password change s/ksp/zchermit	[18:31]
luciash	:) where does one enable the insert plugin icon for big help ?	[18:32]
xavi	no idea	[18:34]
zchermit	I try to understand how to change your password here:)	[18:34]
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zchermit	I am in the IRC channels for the first time. Bait is not:)	[18:34]
xavi	zchermit, It happened to me once. check http://tikiwiki.org/Irc	[18:34]
luciash	when i edit a page on dev.tw.o in the help there are no plugin insert icons, only the question help icons... oh, forget it seems to be cache problem... now it's ok	[18:35]
zchermit	xavi, thanks! seems I did it:) Can I join the development team? I would like to add a new plug-in for the start. this is real? I have already registered on sourceforge, took the latest version from SVN and registered at dev.tikiwiki.org	[18:38]
xavi	zchermit: did you join the tikiwiki-devel list? I mena, did you follow all the steps from http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Commit ? (related pages) s/mena/mean	[18:44]
zchermit	yes. mail - zchermit@gmail.com	[18:45]
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jonnyb	hi zchermit - welcome :)	[18:48]
zchermit	seems to have done everything that is written hi jonnyb! thanks :)	[18:49]
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xavi	ok xavi puts the ceremony hat on so you need to provide the right answer to 3 questions, in order to get you commit access First, did you read and understand the 3 rules?	[18:49]
zchermit	ok. :)	[18:50]
xavi	to prove so, you could repeat in short each of them with yor own words, I mean	[18:50]
zchermit	code is free, available in any version, is not required. I do not speak English, have to use translate.google.com. so late in answering. sorry: (	[18:53]
xavi	zchermit: do you know that discussions are held in tikiwiki-devel list in english? preserve environment != code is free (I'm afraid)	[18:55]
zchermit	yes i know. I understand english. I speak very little :(	[18:57]
xavi	ok. please explain again what does the first rule mean only 3 rules, but it's important that every coder understands them	[18:57]
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xavi	zchermit: I suggest you to use mibbit transaltion features, which seem very powerful, when using irc (just a hint for you) you can find the mibbit link also at http://tikiwiki.org/Irc	[18:59]
zchermit	First rule: do no harm, and help and not greedy.	[19:01]
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xavi	ok, 1st step succeeded :-)	[19:01]
zchermit	WoW! :) thanks :)	[19:02]
xavi	2nd question (my own version): are you ready to be thanked for your contributions to the TikiWiki Community? (software, documentation, help in forums, etc.) xavi getting ready also for the third and more difficult question mmm, maybe the machine translation thingies won't translate that properly? xavi mother tongue is not English either s/xavi/xavi's	[19:02]
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xavi	zchermit: ?	[19:08]
zchermit	in this way. not quite understand the meaning of the question. : (You can in other words?	[19:08]
ricks99	maybe: "Will you allow the community to thank you for your contributions"	[19:08]
xavi	yes, yes, are you ready to be thanked for your help to other people? thanks, ricks99! :-)	[19:08]
ricks99	ricks99 rick's native language is* english...* ricks99 SOUTHERN english, that is ;-)	[19:09]
zchermit	I will not disagree:) but to insist on this, too:)	[19:09]
xavi	:-) ok, second step passed sucessfully third and most difficult question: ... xavi hears some "tachan" sound in the background zchermit: what's your sf.net nickname?	[19:10]
zchermit	zchermit	[19:11]
xavi	congratulations! you are in!	[19:11]
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ricks99	ricks99 clap	[19:11]
xavi	welcome to TikiWiki Community, zchermit! :-)	[19:11]
zchermit	it was the simple question:)	[19:11]
xavi	:-) btw, where are you from, Serg ?	[19:11]
zchermit	thanks. hope will be useful. :) Ukraine. Zaporozhye	[19:12]
xavi	do you speak Russian in Ukraine or any other lang? (sorry, my knowledge about that part of the world is very limited)	[19:13]
zchermit	yes. I speak Russian :)	[19:14]
ricks99	????? ?????????? ? TikiWiki	[19:15]
xavi	:-) and is there any active Russian-speaking community of Tiki ?	[19:15]
ricks99	ricks99 also knows how to use Google translate.	[19:15]
xavi	ricks, I could only see "???????"	[19:15]
ricks99	damn encoding....	[19:15]
xavi	of users of Tiki, I mean encoding :-)	[19:15]
ricks99	i tried ....	[19:16]
zchermit	mogno napisat' v translite :)	[19:16]
xavi	ok, I need to disconnect. Welcome again, zchermit, and see you! cheers ricks99	[19:17]
zchermit	ok. see you!!	[19:18]
ricks99	adios xavi	[19:18]
xavi	adeu! (<- CAtalan, Google already know catalan also ;-) ) s/know/knows cheers	[19:18]
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zchermit	honestly have not yet been learned so. I chose to use Tiki as a corporate collection and knowledge management.	[19:19]
jonnyb	i have to go too - cheerio! :)	[19:19]
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grobda24	Well, my symlink worked, but how do I show a domain name only on my host without the tiki-index.php ?	[19:59]
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grobda24	.... a domain name alone I should say http://mindfreedom.org.uk .... without the tiki-index.php on the end.	[20:01]
sylvieg	grobda24: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Rewrite+Rules perhaps	[20:02]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19142 10/branches/proposed/tiki-editpage.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Redirecting to staging page was happening all the time when staging and tikiwiki: approval was turned on, even if the "Always redirect to edit staging page if not tikiwiki: in the following group" feature was set to blank. Blank setting should turn this tikiwiki: feature off.	[22:59]
sylvieg	+1 for nkoth	[22:59]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19143 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Redirecting to staging page was happening all the time when staging and ap tikiwiki: proval was turned on, even if the "Always redirect to edit staging page if not i tikiwiki: n the following group" feature was set to blank. Blank setting should turn this tikiwiki: feature off.	[23:00]
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martinkollubke	Hi everyone!	[23:48]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19149 10/trunk/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX] Link to approve staging page was not appearing if out-of-sync category is set, pages in approved category were not being automatically redirected to staging page when edited tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19150 10/branches/proposed/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX] Link to approve staging page was not appearing if out-of-sync category is set, pages in approved category were not being automatically redirected to staging page when edited	[23:48]
martinkollubke	I have run into a problem after migrating from Tiki 2 to 3.0 maybe someone has an idea, since the documentation and the forum are not giving me any idea what might go wrong here when saving a wiki page after editing it instead of replacing the old content with the new one it appends the old content after the new one so it is as if I copied the whole content of the page on top of the old content and then edited the top most version happens each time i save it, and with every edit the page gets longer it's as if it would save the whole history of pages each time	[23:49]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r19151 10/branches/proposed/ (12 files in 5 dirs): tikiwiki: [bp/r18794][MOD] removing button2 and button3 (!) css classes in stylesheets. Btw, removing also submitbutton class which was useless (there is, anyway, tikiwiki: a selector) and used in just 2 templates. tikiwiki: This should be the final commit of many others which where the deployment of button plugin. tikiwiki: Special thanks to nyloth for his help and time during that work ! tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19152 10/trunk/templates/tiki-approve_staging_page.tpl: [FIX] Wrong encoding for page name in title tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r19153 10/branches/proposed/templates/tiki-approve_staging_page.tpl: [FIX] Wrong encoding for page name in title	[23:55]

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