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[00:24] <Jahithber> after 3 hours of testing im not happy with tiki wiki
[00:25] <Jahithber> i diagnosed it
[00:25] <Jahithber> somtimes it makes more than 150 queries
[00:25] <Jahithber> one time it did more than 200
[00:25] <Jahithber> its too much!
[00:26] <Jahithber> 10 users can overbelast server in 20% 30% its sick:P
[00:26] <Jahithber> features are very nice and the rest too but those queries and render time.. :S
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[02:23] * latlink Hi - Where does tikiV2 store forum msgs?
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[02:36] * latlink Found it
[02:49] <SEWilco2> latlink: You weren't expecting them by that name, were you?
[02:50] * latlink ah - no - but I thought they might have been under tiki_forums_items or similar - but NOW I understand the process - thks
[02:50] <SEWilco2> jahithber: Yup, that can happen depending upon what features are in use.  I put a cache ahead of the server, but that only helps with some stuff, particularly Anonymous users.
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[05:15] <chibaguy> About db queries and load time, although there are a lot of queries at tiki sites, as a practical matter the load time doesn't seem so  bad.
[05:16] <chibaguy> When I compared to others like joomla and drupal, tiki was no slower and often was faster. A lot depends on what the particular site/page contains.
[05:17] <chibaguy> (in case Jahithber comes back, or just talking to myself. :-) )
[05:18] <chibaguy> I think a better criteria for choosing is what you want the site for, which tool is the most approriate, what functionality you want, etc.
[05:19] <chibaguy> better criteria are
[05:20] * latlink Can wiki pages inherit permissions from the user group?
[05:21] <chibaguy> For sure if load time and db queries are the top priority, there are a lot of lighter-weight programs around.
[05:22] <chibaguy> latlink, no, don't think that could be possible.
[05:23] * latlink Ok -thks -  just would like new pages to be visible only to the user group that generates the page
[05:24] <chibaguy> when workspaces is ready (tiki 4), that'll be possible, as I understand it.
[05:24] * latlink great - ta
[05:25] <chibaguy> coming this october to a server near you ;-)
[05:25] <chibaguy> (do movie ads still say that?)
[05:25] * latlink on ya - yes words to that effect!
[05:27] <chibaguy> gotta take the dog out. will be back later.
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[05:28] * latlink same here actually - go figure
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[09:09] <luciash> polom polom
[09:12] <luciash> everybody enjoys da weekend outside :-)
[09:30] <chibaguy> heh, I'm working, here, luciash, at least part of the weekend. ;-)
[09:41] <luciash> hey chibaguy ! same here :-p
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[11:21] <chibaguy> I think wikiplugin_split should be rewritten to use divs instead of a table.
[11:23] <Jahithber> tiki wiki should be optimised its too heavy too many sql queries
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[11:27] <luciash> Jahithber: we all agree, you can join and feel free to help to reduce SQL queries
[11:28] <luciash> chibaguy: do you think it's possible to have the same functionality ?
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[12:06] <chibaguy> luciash, I'm not sure, but would be good to try. I was just looking at one of the smashing magazine typography web designs that has several columns, layed out with divs.
[12:10] <chibaguy> http://media2.smashingmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/images/type-layouts/t20/
[12:11] <luciash> chibaguy: yep, but there's always problem with keeping same height columns if splitted vertically too i think
[12:11] <luciash> and with overflowing content again
[12:12] <luciash> unless set to display: table
[12:12] <chibaguy> true, there are some problems.
[12:13] <chibaguy> compared with a table.
[12:15] <luciash> i would maybe not be as brave to replace SPLIT for now but try with a clone DIVSPLIT first
[12:15] <chibaguy> ah, I was just going to suggest something like that. :-)
[12:15] <luciash> :)
[12:16] <chibaguy> Of course the page author could do the same thing using some arrangement of div plugins...
[12:17] <chibaguy> The plugin would just simplify the process, I imagine.
[12:18] <luciash> exactly
[12:30] <chibaguy> well, when I get time I'd like to try implementing that t20 design with Tiki, so will be looking for good ways to do the columns in wikitext.
[12:31] <luciash> cool
[12:33] <chibaguy> Also, the design has something like a popout side column. mousover the "categories" title and content displays on top of the center column (well like our big blue help button). I wonder if #col2 and #col3 could work like that.
[12:36] * chibaguy thinks back to that old Tiki theme that had side columns displayed with javascript.
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[13:05] * luciash wonders where the "custom fileds" come from into the tiki-user_information.php and tiki-user_preferences.php
[13:05] <luciash> or how to get them displayed
[13:06] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20068 10/trunk/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [ENH] Reindentation, no functional change
[13:07] <luciash> there is $customfields in lib/registration/registrationlib.php but i don't get where they get in
[13:10] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20069 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] missing comma was causing Parse error: syntax error
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[13:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: ?How to link to a tracker from a toc or maketoc? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33912
[13:23] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20070 10/trunk/ (test_php_beautifier.php tests/test_php_beautifier.php): [FIX] Remove duplicate file and fix syntax in remaining one
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[13:43] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Open external links in new window - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33913
[14:22] <luciash> why when i copy the tiki.tpl to tiki-my_clone.tpl and try to set in php to display using that, the {$mid_data} is always empty ???
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[16:06] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Cannot see reply to my post - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33916
[16:31] <tobi_h> Hm - just in case someone feels in charge of the bot: If i follow this link http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33916 I get the following error on the page: Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_GET["forumId"]
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[19:07] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20072 10/trunk/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [ENH] Reindentation, no functional change
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[20:27] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r20073 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [MOD] Modified to match changes in ShareThis and fix small bug keeping rotateimage from working.
[20:35] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r20074 10/branches/proposed/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [MOD] Modified to match changes in ShareThis and fix small bug keeping rotateimage from working. Same committed in trunk revision 20073.
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