[13:20] *** L0ggar starts logging #tikiwiki at Fri Jul 17 13:20:00 2009 [13:20] *** L0ggar has joined #tikiwiki [13:21] irc.tw.o is back and seems stable so far... [13:21] ... it's the old harddisk in a new machine... ;) [13:29] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [13:30] thx amette. [13:34] hi tikifest people :-) [13:34] * chibaguy watching ustream [13:34] good morning, or night, whichever is appropriate [13:35] 10:35 pm here. [13:40] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [13:46] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [13:47] polom 'fest! [13:53] hello jonny [14:03] polom guyz'n'galz [14:06] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [14:07] *** tomb has joined #tikiwiki [14:07] *** tomb has left "Ex-Chat" [14:27] * jonnyb needs to adjust his irc client's audio alerts... [14:33] Info: TikiFest Montréal Summer 2009 ongoing - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=68 [14:34] *** rpg has joined #tikiwiki [14:34] salut tikifest ! [14:35] I don't know if there's been any discussion about marketing in the current 'Fest, but from what I'm experiencing and what I've heard from others with wikis in the enterprise, a key to our market is advising Tikivangelists how to sell it to management against Sharepoint. [14:39] *** ricks99 has quit IRC ("Get more Tiki help from TikiWiki for Smarties: http://twbasics.keycontent.org") [14:39] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [14:40] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [14:41] is it chealer that guy with broken legs ? :) [14:41] tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20193 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/workspaces/ (wslib.php wstools/scriptCreator.php): [MOD] Improved remove_ws_object (still need to be improved) [14:41] hey luciash [14:41] helloya chealer [14:42] ah, stream is off the air? [14:42] luciash: I just figured out how you knew that [14:42] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [14:42] *** axold has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:42] was just on air few seconds ago :) [14:42] MacLeod, I don't think marketing is on the agenda for this tikifest. I wonder what has happened to the marketing things talked about before... [14:43] yo chibaguy [14:43] ...such as the mascot and logo "contests" or whatever. [14:43] hi luciash [14:43] chibaguy: it got summer sleep it seems :-p [14:43] so it seems :-) [14:45] marc stumbled over the web camera cable ? [14:45] well, on the one hand, I think we need the "brand" things, but on the other, tiki needs to be "sellable".... [14:45] ... and for that I think a lot of little bugs need to be fixed. [14:46] yep, imho they take precedence [14:49] it's too bad there's not more devs who know the code well enough to do that. [14:50] hi all :-) [14:50] hi ricks99 [14:55] It's not just about the bugs. People who want to use Tiki inside companies with traditional IT departments (and traditional IT department thinking) need to be able to articulate to the decision-makers the primary motivations for making Tiki available *in addition to* Sharepoint. [14:56] The Tiki Community can provide more ammo for that debate. [14:58] tv stream off the air? [15:01] MacLeod: agreed we should have a separate marketing workshop sometime. [15:01] ricks99: earlier marc tripped over the webcam cable. I am waiting for it to be restored too [15:01] sure, it's not just the bugs. but no matter how good the promotion is, if there are obvious problems for the user, the promotion is wasted. [15:01] d'oh [15:02] @chibaguy: bugs definitely don't help :) [15:02] wait, maybe it wasn't the webcam cable after all [15:02] (reading scroll back more carefully) [15:02] definitely there needs to be work on the product and the marketing, so to speak. [15:04] luciash, do you remember where is the switch for the template start and end comments (visible in source)? [15:06] We are discussing: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/PermissionCleanup [15:06] @chibaguy: admin: general [15:07] ricks99: and chibaguy: i think it should be in features/programmer too - i couldn't find it the other day either [15:07] * ricks99 thinks that having the same option in 2 different places is confusing [15:08] fair point - maybe "programmer" should be called "developer" or something to include designers? [15:08] it is a setting -- not a feature, right? [15:09] true - but it's not for normal usage is it? [15:09] thats why its in the Logging section [15:11] thanks, found it. [15:11] Any video? [15:12] here it comes... [15:12] nkoth3, not yet. [15:12] i got vid - ta [15:13] funny, but considering the subject matter, it wouldn't be any more understandable to me in english. :-) [15:16] LOL, yep, english would be more interesting :) agree with jonnyb ... sorry, was in another window :-p [15:17] hi luciash :) [15:17] but agree with ricks99 too, it's true, it is no feature [15:17] :-p [15:17] hey jonny :) [15:19] hey guys, how would you cope with user tracker to respect user's wish to not show his information to public ? [15:20] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20194 10/trunk/tiki-upload_file.php: [FIX] Init some vars (didn't fix my stored in database problem, but may help others) [15:26] *** floh1111 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [15:39] *** aalex has quit IRC ("Leaving") [15:45] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [15:45] tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r20195 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] searchlibs : group the searchlibs in searchlib folder [15:52] sorry, luciash, no idea about that. [15:52] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC () [15:54] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [16:07] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [16:08] good night, all. [16:14] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:32] *** rpg has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:41] we are discussing: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences [16:49] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:54] tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20196 10/trunk/lib/core/test/AcceptanceTests/MultilingualTest.php: - fixed certain multilingual tests [17:32] *** rpg has joined #tikiwiki [19:00] so;.... is this shopping cart I am seeing on Ustream in Tiki? [19:04] nkoth3: yes [19:09] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20198 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-index.php tiki-listpages.php): [MOD] Replacing more code [19:40] *** sracine has joined #tikiwiki [19:50] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [20:05] New Forum Posts: Workspaces: Yes, please! - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33967 [20:11] is the ustream still relevant? should it be turned off? [20:11] (or repositioned) [20:12] I suppose it isn't, we just took a group photo [20:12] (I'm the one in crutches, so I won't go tell you) [20:15] yeah, it's mispositioned, though we're currently split [20:16] tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20199 10/trunk/lib/core/test/upgrade_test_database_dump_file.php: - script for updating test dump files to the most recent database version. Intended for use for tests only (it will destroy the current Tiki db). [20:18] the above link triggers an error, if there's any tw.o admin [20:25] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20200 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Make filtering a bit more generic [20:26] tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20201 10/trunk/installer/installlib.php: - removed warning that $command was not defined when running a script for updating the acceptance test db files [20:27] well, the error is quite right too; the link is broken (invalid forumId) [20:42] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") 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